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Void Echo Total Extinction 2748	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:31:00 - [61] - Quote da GAND wrote: Avinash Decker wrote: da GAND wrote: @ voidecho Well even if they aren't as trained on how to exactly get games working on consoles they might have an idea and it might not take long on learning how to get it set over for a console. But anyways that part is all speculation to me. But the second part in my previous response where I said being stuck with a box that hardly improves over time and having to go through the company that designed and sold it is still a big issue to me. CCP has had to go through Sony just to update Dust which costs them time and supposedly money. It'd probably be much more time and money just to have Legion on both PC and ps4. Now they may or may not have to go through much with PC, with EVE they have a client for people to download from their website. Downloading from Steam is optional but not required to play EVE, only reason I can see people downloading EVE from Steam is if they use Steam for all their games. When it comes down to hardware they have nearly no limit, only limit is how much a PC gamer will spend to upgrade to Play Legion. Look at Star Citizen, the group that's developing that game is gonna make nearly everyone upgrade their rig because of how massive the game is gonna be. They are only making it for PC because of exactly what I said they aren't being held back by the hardware setup by some company in a box that won't improve much. http://www.dsogaming.com/interviews/cloud-imperium-on-star-citizen-mods-pc-exclusivity-graphical-features-directx12-multi-core-cpus/. Read the second paragraph of what the interviewee said. There isn't much more else I can or need to add to this response but here is one last thing and this is my opinion. Consoles are bought by those who want gaming simple, so keep it simple for them. Games like Legion and Star Citizen aren't simple games so give those games to those who don't mind compilation added to their gaming experience(PC gamers). You don't even know how Legion is going to exactly play out in terms of gameplay mechanics or features . So calling it a simple or complex game doesn't mean much . For all you know CCP will make these game run of low end hardware . CCP basically saying it the Legion supposedly going to be a "sandbox game" without saying how much it will actually be one and we or CCP does not even know if it will ship as one. There as not been a really large scale sandbox FPS nearly all of them has forms of instances or a low maximum amount of players. Star citizen is no expectation. Which is a different issue, since that game focus heavily on graphics fidelity, attention to detail, textures like every ship having a very detailed interior that is streamless to transition to, and very high levels of immersion . True I don't know what the hardware requirements will be for Legion but if gets put on the ps4 all CCP will be able to do is optimize the **** out of it. And then their is Sony which is supposedly hard to deal with, I don't know anything about how CCP dealt with Sony when it came to updating Dust514 but the only thing I've heard is bad stuff. Now wilI Legion be as complicated for new players as Dust was for new players? I hope so, I don't mean CCP not providing an actual tutorial but I mean people that are new to seeing so many options in a shooter. The things from EVE mattering to players such as space security lvs ( low sec, high sec, null sec and wormhole space) and all the affects of there being a certain amount or no security that Legion players may or may not need to worry about all the time. Keeping stock of their fits via the market or maybe never buying anything off the market and just using anything they salvage? Getting transport to certain areas that doesn't have a warbarge that you can't clone jump to like you would for public contracts and maybe getting killed along the way cuz the EVE pilot transporting you didn't know what he was getting into lol. And obviously more things but I'm in a rush here but I'm sure you can figure out the rest from here. I'll be back in a few hours lol. I used Star Citizen as an example of what I meant of devs not being held back by the hardware that's been set in a console for its life cycle. It's going to demand a lot from everyone's rig, graphics for sure and processing power. not to mention funding, funding is basically the life force of every industry out there, without the funding they don't exist. Closed Beta Vet. Until you know the pain I live with, you'll never understand why I see man the way I do.
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.11.27 04:28:00 - [62] - Quote Void Echo wrote: point being simple from the pc elitists "hardware limitations", our point being simple "we don't give a **, CCP will make much more money by going onto console at the same time, especially since there are no big hits for the next gen consoles yet, so this would give ccp a massive head start at profits if they go to ps4". saying that console gamers should quit whining and buy a pc is just **** and ignorant, your kind are the reason pc elitists are so hated. why don't you just buy a ***** controller so you don't have to complain about your kb/m not being supported well enough on a console game? double standard. if CCP never releases it for the ps4, they should also take Valkyrie with them. except i don;l think dust made enough to justify a ps4 release tbh
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1005	Posted - 2014.11.27 05:39:00 - [63] - Quote Void Echo wrote: point being simple from the pc elitists "hardware limitations", our point being simple "we don't give a **, CCP will make much more money by going onto console at the same time, especially since there are no big hits for the next gen consoles yet, so this would give ccp a massive head start at profits if they go to ps4". saying that console gamers should quit whining and buy a pc is just **** and ignorant, your kind are the reason pc elitists are so hated. why don't you just buy a *** controller so you don't have to complain about your kb/m not being supported well enough on a console game? double standard. if CCP never releases it for the ps4, they should also take Valkyrie with them. Lolz you can use nearly any type of controller that you want on a PC and yes that includes the controllers for the ps3, xbox 360, ps4 and xbox one. I started with a controller when I started playing Dust but now I use keyboard and mouse, something does feel a bit wrong keyboard and mouse but it's not so bad for me to complain about it. I'm not telling you to suck it up and build or buy a pre-built PC ( recommend you build it), what I've been saying is its best for the game development wise to be on the PC only because of less barriers that they have to go through. I haven't called you guys peasants at all yet you keep going with this whole PC elitist thing. One thing I only agree with you is that CCP would most likely make a lot of $$ if they put it on the ps4 also. Other then that though there really aren't any other good reasons to put Legion on the ps4 or any other console. Should Legion be on the ps4?**
Helghus Resther Heisen Republic 13	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:16:00 - [64] - Quote If the PS4 is supposedly capable of running PlanetSide 2 at Ultra settings, 40 FPS-lock, I think it would be fine with Legion. System capability isn't the problem here. Console longevity is often pointed out as a problem, but let's be realistic. Each console will have a 6 to 8 year lifespan, and there is still a large player base on the PS3. So I think I may be missing something, but the only other problem I'm seeing is difficulties with Sony when updating the game, and things like that. If they do, which I hope they do, have a console release for Dust/Legion, I promise I'll play that instead of Planetside 2. Most of the time.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5120	Posted - 2014.11.28 05:16:00 - [65] - Quote da GAND wrote: Now IF IF Legions development gets past all the IFS and BS that CCP can put in the way and gets released on the PC should it eventually come to the ps4? I switched to PC gaming not too long ago and I'm enjoying it, especially with all these sales on Steam. I spent plenty of time playing Dust 514 before fanfest this year. I don't play Dust much anymore and I sold all my games that I had for the ps3, only reason I keep my ps3 is for Dust 514. I have no problem with consoles but we know that eventually PC gaming and streaming devices are the future. Legion looked great on the PC at Fanfest, but how far can they get with the ps4 hardware? Legion will never be released. DUST 514 should go to PS4 instead. Because it's a real game, and not bullshit. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1008	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:19:00 - [66] - Quote Helghus Resther wrote: If the PS4 is supposedly capable of running PlanetSide 2 at Ultra settings, 40 FPS-lock, I think it would be fine with Legion. System capability isn't the problem here. Console longevity is often pointed out as a problem, but let's be realistic. Each console will have a 6 to 8 year lifespan, and there is still a large player base on the PS3. So I think I may be missing something, but the only other problem I'm seeing is difficulties with Sony when updating the game, and things like that. If they do, which I hope they do, have a console release for Dust/Legion, I promise I'll play that instead of Planetside 2. Most of the time. Hmmmm looks like they had some trouble getting PlanetSide 2 ps4 version to be exactly like the PC version http://airherald.com/planetside-2-ps4-beta-on-schedule-for-december-despite-console-hardware-limitations/17538/ Should Legion be on the ps4?
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2423	Posted - 2014.12.05 03:45:00 - [67] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: da GAND wrote: Now IF IF Legions development gets past all the IFS and BS that CCP can put in the way and gets released on the PC should it eventually come to the ps4? I switched to PC gaming not too long ago and I'm enjoying it, especially with all these sales on Steam. I spent plenty of time playing Dust 514 before fanfest this year. I don't play Dust much anymore and I sold all my games that I had for the ps3, only reason I keep my ps3 is for Dust 514. I have no problem with consoles but we know that eventually PC gaming and streaming devices are the future. Legion looked great on the PC at Fanfest, but how far can they get with the ps4 hardware? Legion will never be released. DUST 514 should go to PS4 instead. Because it's a real game, and not bullshit. Never going to happen. CCP, I'm sure, is none to thrilled to deal with Sony further.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1029	Posted - 2014.12.05 04:10:00 - [68] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: da GAND wrote: Now IF IF Legions development gets past all the IFS and BS that CCP can put in the way and gets released on the PC should it eventually come to the ps4? I switched to PC gaming not too long ago and I'm enjoying it, especially with all these sales on Steam. I spent plenty of time playing Dust 514 before fanfest this year. I don't play Dust much anymore and I sold all my games that I had for the ps3, only reason I keep my ps3 is for Dust 514. I have no problem with consoles but we know that eventually PC gaming and streaming devices are the future. Legion looked great on the PC at Fanfest, but how far can they get with the ps4 hardware? Legion will never be released. DUST 514 should go to PS4 instead. Because it's a real game, and not bullshit. Never going to happen. CCP, I'm sure, is none to thrilled to deal with Sony further. Well never say never lol, it's a possibility but still a foolish choice to me if CCP chose to have Legion on the ps4 also. Was going through Sony that bad for CCP? lol I've seen it being mentioned a little bit here and there plus I can also understand Sony putting limits and certain demands for CCP having a game on their hardware and network being connected to CCPs Should Legion be on the ps4?
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 804	Posted - 2014.12.07 10:01:00 - [69] - Quote Void Echo wrote: point being simple from the pc elitists "hardware limitations", our point being simple "we don't give a **, CCP will make much more money by going onto console at the same time, especially since there are no big hits for the next gen consoles yet, so this would give ccp a massive head start at profits if they go to ps4". saying that console gamers should quit whining and buy a pc is just **** and ignorant, your kind are the reason pc elitists are so hated. why don't you just buy a *** controller so you don't have to complain about your kb/m not being supported well enough on a console game? double standard. if CCP never releases it for the ps4, they should also take Valkyrie with them. This is what I'm talking about. But I'm not going to give you any more crap about it. Come to the PC realm, my simple gaming friend. You can bring your controller with you. It's everything your favorite console is plus TONS more. Half Irish. Often angry. Grizzled Masshole Closed Beta Vet** PC > Console
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1841	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:19:00 - [70] - Quote I made a promise to myself to never give CCP any more money until Legion has a solid build on PS4. All the maintenance for Dust 514 with no news on Legion is like patching holes in a half-sunken ship with no word on how construction of the lifeboat is coming along. Also no word on if the lower class residents (console gamers) are just ****** or not. The horror! The horror! ( -íº -£-û -íº)

da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1033	Posted - 2014.12.08 17:03:00 - [71] - Quote McFurious wrote: Void Echo wrote: point being simple from the pc elitists "hardware limitations", our point being simple "we don't give a **, CCP will make much more money by going onto console at the same time, especially since there are no big hits for the next gen consoles yet, so this would give ccp a massive head start at profits if they go to ps4". saying that console gamers should quit whining and buy a pc is just **** and ignorant, your kind are the reason pc elitists are so hated. why don't you just buy a *** controller so you don't have to complain about your kb/m not being supported well enough on a console game? double standard. if CCP never releases it for the ps4, they should also take Valkyrie with them. This is what I'm talking about. But I'm not going to give you any more crap about it. Come to the PC realm, my simple gaming friend. You can bring your controller with you. It's everything your favorite console is plus TONS more. Exactly that's the best thing about PC gaming, you can make however you want and game however you want. It's your Rig, your platform. Should Legion be on the ps4?**
Bam Nutshot Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 48	Posted - 2014.12.19 15:15:00 - [72] - Quote Pc elitist is a reason ill never join Pc masterace....don't wan't to be in the hated crowd For the State!
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1068	Posted - 2014.12.19 15:56:00 - [73] - Quote Bam Nutshot wrote: Pc elitist is a reason ill never join Pc masterace....don't wan't to be in the hated crowd U fear being hated if u told your friends and fellow console/simple gamers that you have become a PC gamer? Should Legion be on the ps4?
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 805	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:24:00 - [74] - Quote Bam Nutshot wrote: Pc elitist is a reason ill never join Pc masterace....don't wan't to be in the hated crowd What you will be missing. Half Irish. Often angry. Grizzled Masshole Closed Beta Vet PC > Console
Doctor Day Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.12.21 19:37:00 - [75] - Quote Star citizen LOL nothing will replace my addiction for EVE and consoles.... My new addiciton will be EVE valkyrie on ps4 soon.... Knifing SOLVES everything!
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1070	Posted - 2014.12.21 21:27:00 - [76] - Quote McFurious wrote: Bam Nutshot wrote: Pc elitist is a reason ill never join Pc masterace....don't wan't to be in the hated crowd What you will be missing. Looking forward to seeing more of that fps mode for star citizen Should Legion be on the ps4?
Pisidon Gmen Ivory Vanguard 51	Posted - 2014.12.21 22:16:00 - [77] - Quote skip legion and fix dust
Ama Zarek BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2014.12.22 00:48:00 - [78] - Quote End PS3. No PS4. Just PC. SONY has so many huge issues its not worth it anymore. Maybe the PS3 plattform could be saved - but just at a minimal. I do not have the figures but they are supposed to be a huge burden and it should be impossible to keep up a PC and a PSN plattform. Pure PC.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 956	Posted - 2014.12.22 02:25:00 - [79] - Quote I don't own a PS4, but I'd like it very much of Legion had a PS4 port. The biggest challenge is making a competent build system to build PC and PS4 versions from the same source tree at the same time. The next challenge to that is just slowing down the PC patch release cycle to match with the PSN release cycle. Totally possible, but there has to be a will. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1070	Posted - 2014.12.22 03:55:00 - [80] - Quote Ama Zarek wrote: End PS3. No PS4. Just PC. SONY has so many huge issues its not worth it anymore. Maybe the PS3 plattform could be saved - but just at a minimal. I do not have the figures but they are supposed to be a huge burden and it should be impossible to keep up a PC and a PSN plattform. Pure PC. I agree working on the ps3 version is alright as long as the data they gather from these updates and hotfixes will be used to improve things they have set for Legion. And getting a PC and Ps4 version running is possible but too much time and money. They've already wasted enough time and money getting Dust 514 to where it is now since they couldn't get the carbon engine with all the progress they made to work without setting a few ps3's on fire. Should Legion be on the ps4?

deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1651	Posted - 2014.12.28 06:36:00 - [81] - Quote I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1085	Posted - 2014.12.29 03:39:00 - [82] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Should Legion be on the ps4?
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1652	Posted - 2014.12.29 04:09:00 - [83] - Quote da GAND wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Im not sure if it is all a hardware issue tho. If you look at CCPs style in both Dust and Eve they seem to much prefer allowing the player base to quality check. Sony on the other hand, from what I have seen anyway, requires a drawn out process before publishing which really slows down the process.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1086	Posted - 2014.12.29 04:13:00 - [84] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: da GAND wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Im not sure if it is all a hardware issue tho. If you look at CCPs style in both Dust and Eve they seem to much prefer allowing the player base to quality check. Sony on the other hand, from what I have seen anyway, requires a drawn out process before publishing which really slows down the process. Well yes of course it isn't completely a hardware issue but I'd say it's mostly that. Should Legion be on the ps4?
Void Echo Total Extinction 2749	Posted - 2014.12.31 05:09:00 - [85] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: da GAND wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Im not sure if it is all a hardware issue tho. If you look at CCPs style in both Dust and Eve they seem to much prefer allowing the player base to quality check. Sony on the other hand, from what I have seen anyway, requires a drawn out process before publishing which really slows down the process. translation- CCP: just goes with the flow and releases everything at once for the players to get angry over and be happy over and does adjustments accordingly. Sony: requires the updates to be finished, polished and well done to the point where there are no visible bugs for anyone to get pissed off at before it gets released. did I get that right? Closed Beta Vet. Until you know the pain I live with, you'll never understand why I see man the way I do.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1090	Posted - 2014.12.31 05:23:00 - [86] - Quote Void Echo wrote: deezy dabest wrote: da GAND wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Im not sure if it is all a hardware issue tho. If you look at CCPs style in both Dust and Eve they seem to much prefer allowing the player base to quality check. Sony on the other hand, from what I have seen anyway, requires a drawn out process before publishing which really slows down the process. translation- CCP: just goes with the flow and releases everything at once for the players to get angry over and be happy over and does adjustments accordingly. Sony: requires the updates to be finished, polished and well done to the point where there are no visible bugs for anyone to get pissed off at before it gets released. did I get that right? (Compares notes) Looks like we both have the same understanding Should Legion be on the ps4?
Void Echo Total Extinction 2750	Posted - 2014.12.31 05:26:00 - [87] - Quote da GAND wrote: Void Echo wrote: deezy dabest wrote: da GAND wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Im not sure if it is all a hardware issue tho. If you look at CCPs style in both Dust and Eve they seem to much prefer allowing the player base to quality check. Sony on the other hand, from what I have seen anyway, requires a drawn out process before publishing which really slows down the process. translation- CCP: just goes with the flow and releases everything at once for the players to get angry over and be happy over and does adjustments accordingly. Sony: requires the updates to be finished, polished and well done to the point where there are no visible bugs for anyone to get pissed off at before it gets released. did I get that right? (Compares notes) Looks like we both have the same understanding I don't see whats wrong with sony's method yet I see countless errors with CCPs method. Closed Beta Vet. Until you know the pain I live with, you'll never understand why I see man the way I do.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1090	Posted - 2014.12.31 06:16:00 - [88] - Quote Ya I suppose it's just too restricting for CCP though but their also are for sure other interests invested in Sony (middlemen) which will slow things down. Certain people want this amount of $$ for a certain update or release. Now if CCP were to be able to actually fix things really soon after bugs have been found after a new release I would have no problem with the way they do things. But that's not how it goes of course, it's been a pretty bad experience with CCP trying to get this fps gateway(Dust514 now Legion) into New Eden to what they originally had visioned. If they only had gone with PC....... Should Legion be on the ps4?
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1658	Posted - 2014.12.31 15:52:00 - [89] - Quote Void Echo wrote: deezy dabest wrote: da GAND wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Im not sure if it is all a hardware issue tho. If you look at CCPs style in both Dust and Eve they seem to much prefer allowing the player base to quality check. Sony on the other hand, from what I have seen anyway, requires a drawn out process before publishing which really slows down the process. translation- CCP: just goes with the flow and releases everything at once for the players to get angry over and be happy over and does adjustments accordingly. Sony: requires the updates to be finished, polished and well done to the point where there are no visible bugs for anyone to get pissed off at before it gets released. did I get that right? +1 Close. Obviously Sony does not test based on in game bugs etc. Lets be honest if that was the case there would be no Dust. Sony's testing involves more in the line of system stability, clean of any backdoors to the playstation or playstation network, and so on. It is this extended testing process which seems to really rain on CCPs parade along with the issues that consoles present in the first place. Far be it from me to speak on whats going on behind the closed doors of CCP tho.
DaReaperPW Net 7 63	Posted - 2014.12.31 18:11:00 - [90] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Void Echo wrote: deezy dabest wrote: da GAND wrote: deezy dabest wrote: I think it has been proven that CCP does not work well within the restrictions of consoles. Their development style does not fit well with Sony's rules for updates. Look at planetside 2. Sony has been running it for years now on PC and has continuously pushed back the PS4 launch. I think this really says a lot about the issues presented when comparing PC to console when even Sony them self has so much trouble. Agreed, I also believe that the consoles (if CCP ever got to release Legion on the ps4 and xbox one) would hold CCP back from achieving that original vision which is too much for me to explain in words so here : http://youtu.be/rKtYqWBR7h0 , http://youtu.be/aZ0k0ioROUo . The idea of an fps and Valkyrie entry into New Eden shouldn't be held back by a simple box. Im not sure if it is all a hardware issue tho. If you look at CCPs style in both Dust and Eve they seem to much prefer allowing the player base to quality check. Sony on the other hand, from what I have seen anyway, requires a drawn out process before publishing which really slows down the process. translation- CCP: just goes with the flow and releases everything at once for the players to get angry over and be happy over and does adjustments accordingly. Sony: requires the updates to be finished, polished and well done to the point where there are no visible bugs for anyone to get pissed off at before it gets released. did I get that right? +1 Close. Obviously Sony does not test based on in game bugs etc. Lets be honest if that was the case there would be no Dust. Sony's testing involves more in the line of system stability, clean of any backdoors to the playstation or playstation network, and so on. It is this extended testing process which seems to really rain on CCPs parade along with the issues that consoles present in the first place. Far be it from me to speak on whats going on behind the closed doors of CCP tho. There is also a nice little factor that basicly every PS3 is the same. Same hardware, drivers, updates, etc. The same. Its much easier to find bugs this way, becuase if a dev makes an update, loads it onto his test ps3 and finds a bug, it should be replicatable on ALL ps3's. So in theory, if that bug is fixed it should be fixed on ALL ps3's. Thats not the same for pc's. There are currently five different versions of windows that can run eve. Five. Each of these can be in different states of updates, there are something like 30+ different processors that can run eve. add in another couple hundred video cards, and hundreds of thousends of configurations. A bug that is not replicated on ccp's machines cause quite frankly they will all be really close to uniform, coudl show up on thousends of machines and not on thosends more. Thats the issue. CCP has to have the player base QA because there is zero way to find all the bugs on every combination of machines available. Thats how it works. My guess, TBH, is that: 1) the update process was too slow for ccp. 2) Dust did not make enough money to justify it going (but i doubt this) 3) There was a technology limitation on the ps3 that prevented ccp from doing the full stuff they wanted with dust. 4) there was a limitiation on PSN to CCP's network that caused them to not do what they wished. 5) something else. The point i am making, is QA testing for the PS3 is EASIER then on pc. But if say sony has to screen it, it can slow down delvopment, and its easier to control a product on your own servers then on someone elses.



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