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Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 38	Posted - 2014.10.25 17:13:00 - [1] - Quote All of a sudden, people who weren't out of my range are now not even registering on my scope... wtf CCP? Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4202	Posted - 2014.10.25 17:14:00 - [2] - Quote Haha how long have you've been mia? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 38	Posted - 2014.10.25 17:15:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Haha how long have you've been mia? No longer than a month... I was hoping this was a bug, and not a planned release.. Whats the range I need to be in now - and its kinda f***'d up that I wasted money on these things now I might as well throw the bullets at people. Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
hfderrtgvcd 986	Posted - 2014.10.25 17:46:00 - [4] - Quote The sniper rifle does more damage on headshots but has 400m range now iirc You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1256	Posted - 2014.10.25 17:46:00 - [5] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Haha how long have you've been mia? No longer than a month... I was hoping this was a bug, and not a planned release.. Whats the range I need to be in now - and its kinda f***'d up that I wasted money on these things now I might as well throw the bullets at people. 300-350M for a sniper, your headshot multiplier is buffed up tho. It was to discourage redline snipers while rewarding actual marksman. Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 277	Posted - 2014.10.25 17:52:00 - [6] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: The sniper rifle does more damage on headshots but has 400m range now iirc The 400 meter range is false. Yeaterday I got a 450 meter head shot. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 38	Posted - 2014.10.25 18:07:00 - [7] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: 300-350M for a sniper, your headshot multiplier is buffed up tho. It was to discourage redline snipers while rewarding actual marksman. If I can snipe someone from the Redline, is that not marksmanship? Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 41	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:20:00 - [8] - Quote Cough Give me back my range. Cough Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 660	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:32:00 - [9] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: 300-350M for a sniper, your headshot multiplier is buffed up tho. It was to discourage redline snipers while rewarding actual marksman. If I can snipe someone from the Redline, is that not marksmanship? No. Its broken. Swag-suit4lyfe!
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 41	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:42:00 - [10] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!

Dingleburt Bangledack 297	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:43:00 - [11] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right?
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 660	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:47:00 - [12] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? Cool dude. But, this is a videogame not a real warzone. Real life doesn't have redlines where the enemy can't get to you either though, so even you "real life" argument was a **** poor one. Swag-suit4lyfe!
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game RUST415 584	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:56:00 - [13] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? You can have your "real" range, if I can blow up your MCC with a dropship/tank... Realism right : )
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18510	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:02:00 - [14] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? Sure, we can let you have your 'realism' with your range... Provided the redline goes and people become free to walk right up to you and remove your spleen. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 41	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:05:00 - [15] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? Cool dude. But, this is a videogame not a real warzone. Real life doesn't have redlines where the enemy can't get to you either though, so even you "real life" argument was a ** poor one. So build a map with caverns or cliffs so players can't/won't venture too far. It absolutely isn't a poor argument either, you just seem butt-hurt over losing one too many suits to someone with skill. Player crying, like what's currently happening to the scout, led to the Snipers' diminishing effectiveness. I just want the community or CCP to acknowledge this. Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:** Sure, we can let you have your 'realism' with your range... Provided the redline goes and people become free to walk right up to you and remove your spleen. As if really good players weren't doing that anyway, but deal. That comes with the territory. Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17521	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:13:00 - [16] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Ubuu de Reide wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Haha how long have you've been mia? No longer than a month... I was hoping this was a bug, and not a planned release.. Whats the range I need to be in now - and its kinda f***'d up that I wasted money on these things now I might as well throw the bullets at people. 300-350M for a sniper, your headshot multiplier is buffed up tho. It was to discourage redline snipers while rewarding actual marksman. False 350, 400, then 450 for the tactical, charge, and respectively standard. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game RUST415 585	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:13:00 - [17] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sure, we can let you have your 'realism' with your range... Provided the redline goes and people become free to walk right up to you and remove your spleen. As if really good players weren't doing that anyway, but deal. That comes with the territory. Sprinting and dieing is not the same as walking up, cutting someone open and smoking a cigar before strolling back... You need to face the fact that some people are actually good with the sniper and can use it while being a part of the game, you clearly aren't as good as you thought you were. Get in the objective and shoot outwards, you only need 1 headshot now, I've personally taken out proto rail nabs with the militia sniper while next to the objective... If you can't aim fast you shouldn't be using a sniper.
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 41	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:21:00 - [18] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: [quote=Ubuu de Reide] I've personally taken out proto rail nabs with the militia sniper while next to the objective... If you can't aim fast you shouldn't be using a sniper. Oh sweet... thanks for cosigning that CCP should turn Dust into Counter-Strike. Aim fast,.. ha, sounds like luck to me sir.. Also, the art of sniping is tracking your target and finding perfect spots. You obviously, have no knowledge to draw upon. Not everyone likes run, shoot, run, shoot, If we wanted that we'd migrate to the millions of other fps out there. Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Atiim 13189	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:20:00 - [19] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: The sniper rifle does more damage on headshots but has 400m range now iirc The 400 meter range is false. Yeaterday I got a 450 meter head shot. The ranges differ depending on which variant you use. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2578	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:23:00 - [20] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? In a real warzone if I shot my 80GJ cannon anywhere in sight, everything in sight, including myself, would die ;) "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire

Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 42	Posted - 2014.10.28 04:29:00 - [21] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? In a real warzone if I shot my 80GJ cannon anywhere in sight, everything in sight, including myself, would die ;) If a structure can withstand an orbital, then I think an MCC can withstand your puny tank trying to shell it. Shields Maybe. What im talking about is my rifle doesn't even register a hit,! Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 675	Posted - 2014.10.28 06:37:00 - [22] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Ubuu de Reide wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: No. Its broken. Because in a real warzone, I wouldn't be able to get my rilfe to kill you if I could see you with the scope attached to it, right? In a real warzone if I shot my 80GJ cannon anywhere in sight, everything in sight, including myself, would die ;) Yup. And because the Scrambler Rifle is a Laser weapon that has kick, every shot would destroy the map. Do you know how much light would actually have to come out of the scrambler to kick even as much as it does? Enough to incinerate the moon. It would be stronger than the Doomsday weapon on an Avatar by a long shot, like thousands of times more powerful. Don't even get me started on the Scrambler Pistol. Swag-suit4lyfe!
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 42	Posted - 2014.10.28 16:05:00 - [23] - Quote Lets stay on topic here... GIVE ME BACK MY RANGE CCP! YOU'RE EFFECTING MY BUSINESS! Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17530	Posted - 2014.10.28 19:25:00 - [24] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Lets stay on topic here... GIVE ME BACK MY RANGE CCP! YOU'RE EFFECTING MY BUSINESS! Give Ps3 16x the memory. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6802	Posted - 2014.10.28 19:29:00 - [25] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Ubuu de Reide wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: 300-350M for a sniper, your headshot multiplier is buffed up tho. It was to discourage redline snipers while rewarding actual marksman. If I can snipe someone from the Redline, is that not marksmanship? No. Its broken. Nothing broken about it. Just bad game design. This isn't a problem in Battlefield or Planetside. { \| bittervetmode = 0 I } == Description == This player has recovered morale [[Category: Hopeful]]
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 42	Posted - 2014.10.28 20:07:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ubuu de Reide wrote: Lets stay on topic here... GIVE ME BACK MY RANGE CCP! YOU'RE EFFECTING MY BUSINESS! Give Ps3 16x the memory. Funny, it didn't previously require 16x the memory.. Dust is still a beast to run without the range apparently (judging by the work my fans are doing onboard). Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2195	Posted - 2014.10.28 20:15:00 - [27] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ubuu de Reide wrote: Lets stay on topic here... GIVE ME BACK MY RANGE CCP! YOU'RE EFFECTING MY BUSINESS! Give Ps3 16x the memory. Funny, it didn't previously require 16x the memory.. Dust is still a beast to run without the range apparently (judging by the work my fans are doing onboard). Bad optimisation. Though with 1.9 I am looking forwards to any performance improvments. Today I have been playing domination with my corp and almost every match was sluggish, low frame rate..... I hate domination I dont know why I go into those damn slideshows. Anyway back on point, the sniper still has decent range. If you want more range the red line has to be removed otherwise you are impervious and that is not good game design. (I hate the red lines, I think they should be removed or at the very least pushed back as honestly if a team is red lined, they should be spawning to the sides of the fight so they can flank and push out. Not a little further back in their 'safe zone'. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 42	Posted - 2014.10.28 20:25:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Anyway back on point, the sniper still has decent range. If you want more range the red line has to be removed otherwise you are impervious and that is not good game design. (I hate the red lines, I think they should be removed or at the very least pushed back as honestly if a team is red lined, they should be spawning to the sides of the fight so they can flank and push out. Not a little further back in their 'safe zone'. I think if you applied "decent" range to it, you're stretching I've had kills and prided myself on kills of over 500m in matches where I've only killed 5 or so people - its not always about the kill count, some people prefer to play games differently - but CCP, listen to this man's words. He speaks truth. Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Ubuu de Reide Red Line Security 42	Posted - 2014.10.28 23:57:00 - [29] - Quote Dont ignore the topic Devs. Whoever said, "War would end if the dead could return" was a liar Ronand. So FIGHT!
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 617	Posted - 2014.10.29 00:11:00 - [30] - Quote Ubuu de Reide wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Anyway back on point, the sniper still has decent range. If you want more range the red line has to be removed otherwise you are impervious and that is not good game design. (I hate the red lines, I think they should be removed or at the very least pushed back as honestly if a team is red lined, they should be spawning to the sides of the fight so they can flank and push out. Not a little further back in their 'safe zone'. I think if you applied "decent" range to it, you're stretching I've had kills and prided myself on kills of over 500m in matches where I've only killed 5 or so people - its not always about the kill count, some people prefer to play games differently - but CCP, listen to this man's words. He speaks truth. Yes, and you were sitting in a place no one could kill you without counter sniping or committing suicide. You care about your precious KDR. "I want to kill without having to worry about being killed back." Bravo to you. I'm somewhat in agreement with Commander Bolt. However, there is a point to redlines for spawning in at least to get feet on the ground and getting bearings. However, we can make some improvements to the redline. All clones should have a 1 minute timer that doesn't reset per clone life. Once s/he enters the redline, there is 1 minute in the redline total. After 1 minute, you die just like if you were in the enemy's redline. If you leave after 30 seconds, when you enter again you only get 30 seconds on your timer. This will help cut down on people sitting in the redline for the entire match without any reason to leave. When you die and respawn, you get one minute again to get out of the redline and get into the field of battle. FYI, before you start jumping on me about not knowing what I'm talking about, Open Beta vet and I've been a Sniper off and on for that entire time. Get into the action and take some risks. Oh, and FYI, I've had plenty of those 400 and 500 + meter kills as well. About 2 kills a match doing that. Get up closer and start picking people off at 150-200 meters. You'll see your scope a lot clearer, enemies will take up more of the scope (i.e. easier to hit), and your kill count will increase. Will you die more? That depends on if you are sitting in one place the entire match, sitting in an obvious spot where you stand out like a sore thumb, or if you are doing what you should be doing: Shoot, Move, and Communicate. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.



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