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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:11:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:No.
I've spent my SP wisely. Why should someone gain an advantage over me from spending it unwisely? They will have an advantage over you, how? They have access to the same skills you do, at the same SP prices you do. Are you concerned some new player might start being competitive against you because of an SP respec? 
Typical thought process from those against it , just stupid ... they have run out of excuses why we shouldn't have one and for the G.M . I believe the reason that we need one is , when members of the community calls for one , they have enough backing .. which there are far more people speaking out about one , so the need is obvious and it's not ruining the environment , in fact ... it's enhancing the game play and the playability of the game but those in charge wouldn't know anything about that now would they ..??.. I'm tired of talking about this .
You people make destiny threads why ..??.. if you don't like the game .
You people won't back a SP refund ..??.. why , when there's a large amount of players requesting such .
The reason why you see so many threads about this topic is because it's needed , hell why else would players keep up this discussion ???
But it goes un noticed and missed like so many other opportunities , that's it's just not upsetting anymore ... in fact , I expect it .
Between EVE players and management , this is a lost cause and I'm not even talking about refunds , it's this whole game in general .
You people guard a refund like your hurting someone other then yourselves , if people don't like this environment then they will move elsewhere , now as a business ... when did it become appropriate to except such ..??.. even more so when you just had to do massive lay offs after acquiring a company , so you just basically wasted money except for copyrights and that will be used when and how ???
This is a joke , just like wasting time on a game where it's leadership doesn't care about it's consumers .
It's obvious .
You people act like your hurting someone by denying them this instance , when they can go and spend their time and money elsewhere and how will that help this business and company ???
Oh yeah , you'll keep milking the one's who just don't seem to get it . You know the one's who make post after post about how bad destiny is while it's killing with numbers 5 times the numbers of this game . They must be doing something right and I know for a fact that they listen to their consumers just threw their patch fixes , so that instill confidence in them from their consumers , you know ... the people who pay their bills and you wonder why and how they have the money to spend untold numbers on projects . They listen to their consumers and they must be doing something right .
There numbers on a bad day will crush the numbers of EVE and Dust on a great day .
Before you point the finger at someone else , talking about what their doing wrong ... fix your own problems first and you will realize that those who do so , don't have to much time to talk about what others aren't doing , because their getting their own house in order ... that's what adults do and what makes a good business .
I support you OP but I'm just flat out tired of this $h!T and this game .
Shouldn't have to go threw all of this to create a fun filled environment and it's like I have to beg one to install measures that will encourage me to spend money when I can do that stress and worry free and get what I'm asking for with no problem or hurdles to jump over some place else .
But in the eyes of these people that would be my lost .
Oh how they are so sadly mistaken .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.13 23:39:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui - are you saying we don't listen to our players? Hm. Interesting. By a valid reason I mean something like when we introduced the racial variants for Dropsuits, adding a bunch of new Skills, or when we completely overhauled the Vehicle Skills. We totally should have done a respec for these updates, at least for the specific Skill Trees. Waitaminute....
I know that you know better then that , you have more refund threads then anything , so much so that you lock and delete them but they keep coming because the community cries for something that will spark interest .
What's so hard about this ???
You get BP threads and you say that your working on it and the response is like instantly , you get post about scouts and you try to implement changes ( though some think that what was done was not enough ) and you will revisit that issue again I'm sure , you get vehicle threads and your attentive just like anti-vehicle , so I can see and say that you do listen but in this instance , you people act like your deaf , dumb and blind .
Refund threads get crappy treatment but the community will not cease with them because they need it and you ... yourself can't deny it , I mean you can ignore it but when you come to the forums and see refund thread after refund thread and nothing clicks in your heads like , " Maybe we should just give them one , so we can please those who are asking , increase our player numbers ( players who have left might come back when news of a refund is known , hell someone made a post about that recently ) , make some money from and with the increased traffic , people enjoying themselves because the lobby is not a ghost town from the lack of bodies ( people playing the same people over and over in matches ) and players get a chance to focus on what's important to them ( i.e. actually hone a role out for themselves ) or they will try new things but all in all , that will increase the interest and involvement of the community . "
Right now this environment is lame and dead , also boring and the amount of events are just not cutting it .
I didn't mean to sound like I'm flying off the handle G.M. but this is just silly , to have to beg for a mechanic that will do nothing but increase the fun in the game and the environment . To have to go threw this running around like on a hamster's wheel for something that will do nothing but benefit the games overall progression and leave a nice taste in the mouth of those who can't follow this game into the PC universe , might bode well for you in any endeavor that you might bring to the PS4 .
I have a PS4 that I haven't even opened yet because I'm waiting for Tom Clancy's The Division , tells you how serious some of us gamers are and how dedicated to certain games we can be . You can knock us with that #PCMASTERRACE crap all you like but console gamers create a lot of revenue for businesses and most would not be where they are today without the console gamer .
A SP refund is needed , you see post about it on a regular and how can you just dismiss the evidence ?
Let the nay sayers be because they are not happy one way or another , so you might as well come out on top creating some happiness in the process and showing some that you actually DO listen .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.14 00:26:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:I'll check in with my managers tomorrow if I can explain the 'customer support view' about this topic in detail. I would love to :) Even though I know I won't convince anyone. And I don't want to. We know you guys want respecs, and we handle respec requests according to our policies.
This is basically saying that it won't happen , eventhough it happened multiple times in the past ( when many that are asking didn't even know about Dust , much yet played it ) .. they have changed their policies and it won't happen again .
It's good to see a discussion but the key phrase and the tell .. tell is in the second sentence .
Won't convince and don't want to tells a lot in it's self .
If you people have eyes to see , you already know what's coming and if I'm wrong I will be the first to be thankful and admit my mistake but like I said , it's expected what I already know will happen .
If you can read , then you should have an ideal .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.14 00:38:00 -
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BlazeXYZ wrote:GM Archduke wrote:I'll check in with my managers tomorrow if I can explain the 'customer support view' about this topic in detail. I would love to :) Even though I know I won't convince anyone. And I don't want to. We know you guys want respecs, and we handle respec requests according to our policies. Every ticket reply with a denied respec request also includes the line "Please keep an eye on the DUST 514 Forum and DEV Blog, to be up-to-date with any DUST 514 related news, and to see if such an option will ever be available again." Pretty sure they're gonna say no because they still want us to buy boosters.
But a refund won't stop that from happening .
Everyone that's asking for one , isn't sitting on a load of SP's to begin with , hell it may create a need for a booster or two .
I'm not denouncing or going against what your saying B but the excuses should stop now seeing as there is no clear cut FOTM and they are still changing items .
More traffic will create a greater need for boosters and such , people might just spend money because they are thankful for the refund .
I just don't see why people are against it .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.14 01:11:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:
Why you shouldn't
1: You shouldn't do this if you want dust 514 to die quickly
Now , this is my thoughts as to why it's not or will not happen .
This is telling a lot and a good observation from you Xavier .
I'm not going to lie , the ONLY reason that I still play this game is for the fight that those who are fighting for a refund are undertaking , I like the game and the community and all but there is just so much missing after FF from people leaving to the changes ( they were needed ) and the simple blandness of the present environment .
If this doesn't happen , I can do nothing but just fade away and no you can't have my ISK's either .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.10.14 03:40:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:
**** your ISK...keep it
yeah Dust 514 will die in its current state (no port to PS4, only on PS3)
But, correct me if i'm wrong, legion is a PC version of dust 514, which means a lot more players will be opened up to the tranquility server. THEN they should port to PS4 with dust 514's income, legions profits...ect
But it isn't as simple as that unfortunately and remaking it for the playstation 4 requires more than just labour money (dev work)
Also need the rights to use the PS4 as a system to operate dust on ($$$)
I didn't mean you can't have it , you know when you talk about leaving the vultures begin to fly around looking for some scraps .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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