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TH1EFOFSOuLS
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:07:00 -
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They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS |
Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
435
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:50:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
CCP can we just allow a big as* message to pop up on every player's screen when a tank is called in? That way players can run to the sh*tton of buildings that allow for infantry to fight in peace withou stupidly having to stand in the open and get shot by a tank.
Talk about a crutch. Who is the one that really needs it?
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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valad II
NoGameNoLife
195
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Posted - 2014.10.04 04:53:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS CCP can we just allow a big as* message to pop up on every player's screen when a tank is called in? That way players can run to the sh*tton of buildings that allow for infantry to fight in peace withou stupidly having to stand in the open and get shot by a tank. Talk about a crutch. Who is the one that really needs it?
NO. I like tanks. They make for good war points with my forge gun. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1194
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Posted - 2014.10.04 05:42:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit.
Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once.
Because, that's why.
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
371
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Posted - 2014.10.04 05:49:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS CCP can we just allow a big as* message to pop up on every player's screen when a tank is called in? That way players can run to the sh*tton of buildings that allow for infantry to fight in peace withou stupidly having to stand in the open and get shot by a tank. Talk about a crutch. Who is the one that really needs it?
Situational awareness. That's all.
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
371
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Posted - 2014.10.04 05:59:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once.
If you can't destroy a tank with AV then you are doing AV wrong.
If you want the tank destroyed then chase it down. Don't just stand in one spot shooting any energy vehicle that nears you. All you will do is scare it off. And I assure you no tanker and pilot will stay still while you shoot at it.
You want it destroyed? Chase it down.
Also to re-stock a well fitted tank, means about 2-3 matches.
My missile Gunnlogi costs over 400k ISK. You'll be doing a huge damage to my wallet if you destroy that tank. Even if I choose to leave it behind.
With that said, a respectable tanker/pilot will never abandon it's vehicle.
I never abandon my tanks. Even if I know they are one shot away from being destroyed.
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
154
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Posted - 2014.10.04 06:49:00 -
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+1 to WR ! That's the AV spirit ! All these Avers want handicaps up the @$$ Chase the tank and you are guaranteed to kill it.
- Pain is weakness leaving the body.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
3387
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:50:00 -
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Welp...
Maybe plate changes will make attacking tanks feel less like I'm mugging them and more like I'm fighting them. |
Magnus Amadeuss
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1122
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Posted - 2014.10.04 07:58:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once. If you can't destroy a tank with AV then you are doing AV wrong. If you want the tank destroyed then chase it down. Don't just stand in one spot shooting any energy vehicle that nears you. All you will do is scare it off. And I assure you no tanker and pilot will stay still while you shoot at it. You want it destroyed? Chase it down. Also to re-stock a well fitted tank, means about 2-3 matches. My missile Gunnlogi costs over 400k ISK. You'll be doing a huge damage to my wallet if you destroy that tank. Even if I choose to leave it behind. With that said, a respectable tanker/pilot will never abandon it's vehicle. I never abandon my tanks. Even if I know they are one shot away from being destroyed.
Your advice is for AV... people that move at sub 10 m/s, to chase down tanks that can travel at 20+ m/sec?
Some tanker have figured out how not to be solo'ed. I snuck up on a madrugar, threw two lia dias at him and hit him with 3 volleys from my wiikryojaosfh(sp) launchers (with damage mods) and he still was able to speed away.
Now if there were two of me we would have gangbanged him prety bad, but 1 vs 1 a tank can still easily survive against AV.
Fixing swarms
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five times
Liverpool F.C.
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:15:00 -
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i cant for tanks spam, i dont have many matches now that have tanks for me to destroy with my proto forge |
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
61
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Posted - 2014.10.04 08:20:00 -
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Lol av op? Nothing has changed swarms still can't kill me unless I act like a tard.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1169
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Posted - 2014.10.04 09:37:00 -
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Sorry, OP.
Nice troll.
But "No." Just in case you're serious.
I have a great proto tanker alt with everything maxed. I'd like to actually make some good use out of it.
Be nice if Marauders were brought back in all their closed beta or Chromosome glory.
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
719
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Posted - 2014.10.04 10:43:00 -
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I think vehicles should be on the weak side if anything, because vehicles being slightly too strong just fucks up the ground game something fierce. I'd much rather vehicles be a little weak than tankers being able to pull ridiculously high scores like they used to.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
161
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Posted - 2014.10.04 10:50:00 -
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I don't get why everyone says tanks need buffs. My Sica with militia mods hasn't been killed by AV yet because I use a little known thing called caution when I'm driving. Not driving up main street guns blazing for instance and using buildings as cover. Madrugers and Gunnlogis still kill me pretty nicely except when I can get the drop on them or they commit suicide by constantly hitting a wall in an attempt to use evasive maneuvers. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
385
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Posted - 2014.10.04 11:30:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
By "AV" you mean Swarms, right? Just skill up ForgeGun  .
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
132
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:39:00 -
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My 3 seat gunni costs 699,385....
It is FAR from invincible.
http://youtu.be/DksSPZTZES0
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
162
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:49:00 -
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Have you tried being more careful? |
TH1EFOFSOuLS
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2014.10.04 15:26:00 -
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yeah... my 3 seat gunnlogi cost 240k dude and it wrecks face with a 3 man team but that's just because my fittings are almost maxed. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5471
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Posted - 2014.10.04 15:52:00 -
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It is rumored that the entirety of Molon Labe now breathes through mouth.
#NEWREDSTAR
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2151
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:10:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS CCP can we just allow a big as* message to pop up on every player's screen when a tank is called in? That way players can run to the sh*tton of buildings that allow for infantry to fight in peace withou stupidly having to stand in the open and get shot by a tank. Talk about a crutch. Who is the one that really needs it?
Crutch? lol
I get easily destroyed by AV. You can't nerf intelligence.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2151
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:11:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS By "AV" you mean Swarms, right? Just skill up ForgeGun .
The forge gun requires aim.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2151
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:12:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once.
If you're having trouble destroying tanks, you're probably doing it wrong.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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valad II
NoGameNoLife
197
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:13:00 -
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I feel a little bit g4yer for listening to that song. Thanks |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2151
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:13:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:
With that said, a respectable tanker/pilot will never abandon it's vehicle.
I never abandon my tanks. Even if I know they are one shot away from being destroyed.
Those days are far behind us. Chivalry is done. I have zero problem hopping out to shove a Boundless in someone's face if they're trying to destroy me.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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TH1EFOFSOuLS
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:15:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:
With that said, a respectable tanker/pilot will never abandon it's vehicle.
I never abandon my tanks. Even if I know they are one shot away from being destroyed.
Those days are far behind us. Chivalry is done. I have zero problem hopping out to shove a Boundless in someone's face if they're trying to destroy me.
Yup. **** all that now you want to kill me you better earn it. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2151
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:20:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:
With that said, a respectable tanker/pilot will never abandon it's vehicle.
I never abandon my tanks. Even if I know they are one shot away from being destroyed.
Those days are far behind us. Chivalry is done. I have zero problem hopping out to shove a Boundless in someone's face if they're trying to destroy me. Yup. **** all that now you want to kill me you better earn it.
Lol k. Easy
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:22:00 -
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Knowing how terrible both of you are at DUST your Sentinel would probably trip upon trying to bail out lol
The 1st Matari Commando
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
694
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:28:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:It is rumored that the entirety of Molon Labe now breathes through mouth.
#NEWREDSTAR
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Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2151
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Knowing how terrible both of you are at DUST your Sentinel would probably trip upon trying to bail out lol
Says the guy that calls himself a tanker.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
166
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:32:00 -
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Jlav will be again a AV weapon, where is the problem Av users?
I've seen things that people have never seen : New officier weapon
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1200
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Posted - 2014.10.04 18:36:00 -
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I've killed hundreds of tanks. I like where AV/V is at now, but it is just silly for a tanker to call AV OP. I played against Duna the other night, he went 36-0 and 23-0, when a swarmer kills 36 tanks without dying once then we can start talking about swarms being OP. Forges have had no buff in a long time.
ISK should buy you a small advantage, not a win. The ISK difference between STD gear and Proto is 40X and you get a 10% advantage for that. Tankers thinking that a ISK difference of 4X should get them a 100% advantage are unreasonable.
Because, that's why.
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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
167
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Posted - 2014.10.04 18:40:00 -
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Can they just put tanks (vehicles) back as they were in U1.6, y'know like before U1.7.
It was more better than it currently is, because all CCP is gonna do now is Nerf the Vehicles & Buff them in every patch just so they can find a balance.
Don't F**K with Gamers Angry Joe style
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1020
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Posted - 2014.10.04 19:45:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
AV OP hell no
Pokemon master!
Death to all Swarm scrubs
CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
119
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Posted - 2014.10.04 20:13:00 -
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AV is OP nice joke boyo
Nope AV should stay how is it
"The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
947
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Posted - 2014.10.04 20:28:00 -
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even if they do that to plates they already nerfed the overdrives and inertia on tanks so they aint going anywhere... except to the scrap heap! 
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 2 Forum Pariah
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1238
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Posted - 2014.10.04 21:06:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
There actually is a skill that is applied now that does the same thing that you speak of .
I don't see what the problem is and if there is a armor penalty , it applies to drop ships as well so it would be common knowledge that it would do the same for ADS's as well because they have a penalty as well for armor adage , so I don't see what your getting at .
I stack armor on my derps and I do feel the weight and there is a movement penalty .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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im squishy
Paradox Pride
23
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Posted - 2014.10.04 21:37:00 -
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The only thing i feel is wrong about Tanks is their price. I do truely believe that tanks are TOO cheap and the cost should be raised. If that happened tank spamming wouldnt be such a beloved commodity and the ground game would indeed improve. |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
142
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:06:00 -
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im squishy wrote:The only thing i feel is wrong about Tanks is their price. I do truely believe that tanks are TOO cheap and the cost should be raised. If that happened tank spamming wouldnt be such a beloved commodity and the ground game would indeed improve.
Old news, my maddy used to cost 2.9, and my surya was like 3.5-4.5. Enforcer was made of balsa wood though...
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
381
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:19:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:+1 to WR ! That's the AV spirit ! All these Avers want handicaps up the @$$ Chase the tank and you are guaranteed to kill it.
Guaranteed to get killed more like it?! Chase that tank at your own risk?! Tankers aren't as stupid as they seem in the forums.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
375
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:33:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:+1 to WR ! That's the AV spirit ! All these Avers want handicaps up the @$$ Chase the tank and you are guaranteed to kill it. Guaranteed to get killed more like it?! Chase that tank at your own risk?! Tankers aren't as stupid as they seem in the forums.
Everything has a risk. If you really want that tank killed then you better chase it. I have no problem with chasing a tank whenever it starts threatning my team. It runs away and I see there is no battle going on, I chase it. If it runs away and there's a crossire going on, I stay.
Really some AVers need common sense. The only ones that have a prominent excuse are the forge gunners and because they are slow as hell. But a medium or light suit shouldn't be that problematic.
If I can chase a tank in my Minimando then so can you.
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
375
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:40:00 -
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Seriously, if your guys idea of AV is to suit in one spot and bombard any enemy vehicle that comes near your weapon's range, then you are doing it wrong if your intent is to destroy the vehicle.
You want it gone? You better work for it.
Personally AV vs Vehicle is somewhat balanced right now and I would prefer for it to stay this way.
I don't want 1.7 to repeat itself again. And I also don't want AV downing a good fitted Maddy or Gunny + good pilot in one clip while the AV stays stationary.
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13414
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:49:00 -
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Pointless. Armour plates should increase your mass and slow your tank down.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
149
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Posted - 2014.10.07 21:51:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
dropship can fly behind and even between structures too boyo
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Tinker of HAWC"
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
375
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Posted - 2014.10.08 01:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Pointless. Armour plates should increase your mass and slow your tank down.
How many of you actually read thread about? The only armour plates that are getting re-worked are the 60mm plates.
Why? Because they offer less armour yet have the same speed penalty from de 120mm ones.
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1631
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Posted - 2014.10.08 01:11:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
what are you? casul?
Closed beta vet.
Call me TrolLuna or Trollmare Moon, Reference link
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13420
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Posted - 2014.10.08 01:42:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Pointless. Armour plates should increase your mass and slow your tank down. How many of you actually read thread about? The only armour plates that are getting re-worked are the 60mm plates. Why? Because they offer less armour yet have the same speed penalty from de 120mm ones.
Sounds fine to me then..... I haven't played for months....only reason I'm still here is due to lore.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
142
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:34:00 -
[47] - Quote
My AV suit packs wyrks, packed nades, and F45's...
Just sayin
Pack a lunch.
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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BIoody 619
D3ATH C4RD
1
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:38:00 -
[48] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once.
Define AV please?
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BONERBOMB TIGBITTIES
THE BONERBOMBS
41
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:48:00 -
[49] - Quote
TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS
Umm there is already a reduction in speed penalty. Its called armor composition if you weren't paying attention. And really tanks are op? Coming from someone who might use a proto minmando with maxed out swarms doing 3500 a volley...
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I manage beverage
But mostly enjoy beverage
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1276
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Posted - 2014.10.10 00:04:00 -
[50] - Quote
maybe just stay in ambush and stop trying to nerf skirmish. infantry ego has to take a hit,
TLDR GTFO of skirmish.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1218
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Posted - 2014.10.10 01:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
BIoody 619 wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once. Define AV please?
Infantry Anti-Vehicle, in this context.
Because, that's why.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1030
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Posted - 2014.10.10 09:56:00 -
[52] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once.
You have a sign above your head... It reads
"Nothing Certain has never driven a tank ingame."
Infantry has the ability to gain FULL immunity vs ground vehicles by using cover.
I've never seen a tank capable of appearing from inside a building, or changing floors to the roof to make counterattacking a thing of guesswork for a few seconds. AV can do this.
Infantry can hide from vehicles. Vehicles cannot hide from infantry, in fact, whenever they are fielded, they are focused on by as few as 8 people at one time. Imagine if your dropsuits pinged up like that-- permanently visible on the radar at all distances-- you'd probably claw your own eyes out from fear of being hunted.
Infantry can use all regions of the map. Vehicles are capable of only running in predetermined areas. (meaning they're predictable)
Infantry can peek around a corner, line up a shot in the time it takes to charge their weapon, then disappear back around that same corner. Tanks, have to stop and turn toward a target, then take a few seconds to guess where they should be aiming, all the while being mostly immobile so that the reticule doesn't bounce like a rabbit.
Infantry can sneak up on tanks. Tanks cannot sneak up on infantry (unless you are horrifyingly bad at observing your environment, in which case you could also be surprised by "suddenly" encountering an immobile installation on the map)
How would I know all this? I play BOTH sides of the engagement. Frankly I have stopped using tanks because infantry can do things faster, and better. The role of a tank is no longer AV (rail), and no longer Anti-Infantry(blaster) because using the map and thinking about how to craft your own engagements with the environment is too intense for many players. Heck... vehicles are not even viable as TRANSPORTATION. You drive out a little way at the start of a game, set up an uplink, then never look at the vehicle again, unless you are doing some niche thing such as Joyriding, or Heavy abuse.
I pull out a forge, get into a little nook, then fire away at the tank or dropship. I can pass unseen around infantry, even though I have such a freakishly high DB in that heavy suit, line up a few shots, then reveal myself when it's convenient.
You cannot bring out a tank, to casually engage a singular target. You will be hunted as soon as that tank hits the ground by someone who swaps to AV, and like I said before, you can't hide it.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1066
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once.
So much stupid I don't even know what to say.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2158
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once. You have a sign above your head... It reads "Nothing Certain has never driven a tank ingame." Infantry has the ability to gain FULL immunity vs ground vehicles by using cover. I've never seen a tank capable of appearing from inside a building, or changing floors to the roof to make counterattacking a thing of guesswork for a few seconds. AV can do this. Infantry can hide from vehicles. Vehicles cannot hide from infantry, in fact, whenever they are fielded, they are focused on by as few as 8 people at one time. Imagine if your dropsuits pinged up like that-- permanently visible on the radar at all distances-- you'd probably claw your own eyes out from fear of being hunted. Infantry can use all regions of the map. Vehicles are capable of only running in predetermined areas. (meaning they're predictable) Infantry can peek around a corner, line up a shot in the time it takes to charge their weapon, then disappear back around that same corner. Tanks, have to stop and turn toward a target, then take a few seconds to guess where they should be aiming, all the while being mostly immobile so that the reticule doesn't bounce like a rabbit. Infantry can sneak up on tanks. Tanks cannot sneak up on infantry (unless you are horrifyingly bad at observing your environment, in which case you could also be surprised by "suddenly" encountering an immobile installation on the map) How would I know all this? I play BOTH sides of the engagement. Frankly I have stopped using tanks because infantry can do things faster, and better. The role of a tank is no longer AV (rail), and no longer Anti-Infantry(blaster) because using the map and thinking about how to craft your own engagements with the environment is too intense for many players. Heck... vehicles are not even viable as TRANSPORTATION. You drive out a little way at the start of a game, set up an uplink, then never look at the vehicle again, unless you are doing some niche thing such as Joyriding, or Heavy abuse. I pull out a forge, get into a little nook, then fire away at the tank or dropship. I can pass unseen around infantry, even though I have such a freakishly high DB in that heavy suit, line up a few shots, then reveal myself when it's convenient. You cannot bring out a tank, to casually engage a singular target. You will be hunted as soon as that tank hits the ground by someone who swaps to AV, and like I said before, you can't hide it.
All of this.
Couple it with AV doing insane amounts of damage because infantry wants MLT swarms to be a threat to veteran pilots.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Skippy Longstocking
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:21:00 -
[55] - Quote
IMO, only an idiot would think that any dedicated AV user (whose made a significant SP investment into AV) would WANT to be OP, and if any AV user DOES want to be OP, then they, too, are an idiot, and here's why:
There is a common denominator between anti-VEHICLE and VEHICLE.
Here's a hint: it's VEHICLES.
If Vehicles are OP, then there's little problem for their users. They will still have each other to shoot at, while decimating infantry, but AV will be screwed because they will be ineffective, and their SP investment in AV will have been wasted.
On the other hand, if AV is OP, all but the most stubborn vehicle user will simply stop using vehicles, and everyone loses. SP investments on both sides will have been wasted.
AV would be pointless without Vehicles to shoot at, but Vehicles would still be viable without AV.
AV is DEPENDENT on vehicles to function, but vehicles are NOT dependent on AV.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1220
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Posted - 2014.10.10 19:12:00 -
[56] - Quote
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once. You have a sign above your head... It reads "Nothing Certain has never driven a tank ingame." Infantry has the ability to gain FULL immunity vs ground vehicles by using cover. I've never seen a tank capable of appearing from inside a building, or changing floors to the roof to make counterattacking a thing of guesswork for a few seconds. AV can do this. Infantry can hide from vehicles. Vehicles cannot hide from infantry, in fact, whenever they are fielded, they are focused on by as few as 8 people at one time. Imagine if your dropsuits pinged up like that-- permanently visible on the radar at all distances-- you'd probably claw your own eyes out from fear of being hunted. Infantry can use all regions of the map. Vehicles are capable of only running in predetermined areas. (meaning they're predictable) Infantry can peek around a corner, line up a shot in the time it takes to charge their weapon, then disappear back around that same corner. Tanks, have to stop and turn toward a target, then take a few seconds to guess where they should be aiming, all the while being mostly immobile so that the reticule doesn't bounce like a rabbit. Infantry can sneak up on tanks. Tanks cannot sneak up on infantry (unless you are horrifyingly bad at observing your environment, in which case you could also be surprised by "suddenly" encountering an immobile installation on the map) How would I know all this? I play BOTH sides of the engagement. Frankly I have stopped using tanks because infantry can do things faster, and better. The role of a tank is no longer AV (rail), and no longer Anti-Infantry(blaster) because using the map and thinking about how to craft your own engagements with the environment is too intense for many players. Heck... vehicles are not even viable as TRANSPORTATION. You drive out a little way at the start of a game, set up an uplink, then never look at the vehicle again, unless you are doing some niche thing such as Joyriding, or Heavy abuse. I pull out a forge, get into a little nook, then fire away at the tank or dropship. I can pass unseen around infantry, even though I have such a freakishly high DB in that heavy suit, line up a few shots, then reveal myself when it's convenient. You cannot bring out a tank, to casually engage a singular target. You will be hunted as soon as that tank hits the ground by someone who swaps to AV, and like I said before, you can't hide it.
Yes, there are a few disadvantages a tank has along with its many advantages, but a TANKER has no disadvantages. You can wear the exact same dropsuit I can and drive a tank So where is my advantage in that scenario?
Because, that's why.
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
175
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Posted - 2014.10.10 19:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
Vehicles can't hide from infantry, like WHAAAAATH matee boyo
Nope boyo, just NOPE
"Ultimate Loggi since 2012 and Pirmatar Yaaaaaargh."
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1031
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:27:00 -
[58] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:
Yes, there are a few disadvantages a tank has along with its many advantages, but a TANKER has no disadvantages. You can wear the exact same dropsuit I can and drive a tank So where is my advantage in that scenario?
If you are talking about skill allocation, then there are no differences between your alleged groups.
Why can your infantry example suddenly not skill into tanks?
This seems to be a point about SP accumulation and nothing do to with gameplay.
Which reduces this statement into one about a low SP user encountering a high SP user.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
143
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:50:00 -
[59] - Quote
I roll a skinweave suit when I tank.
1 ~ To shine you on.
2 ~ Cause I don't pop out at 10% life left.
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
511
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Posted - 2014.10.11 03:00:00 -
[60] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:
Yes, there are a few disadvantages a tank has along with its many advantages, but a TANKER has no disadvantages. You can wear the exact same dropsuit I can and drive a tank So where is my advantage in that scenario?
If the guy has the same suit as you and also a protato tank, then he should have an advantage... Should a guy with only standard gear have an advantage over someone with protato gear?
Is your team limited to less vehicles than the other?
Can you not use a militia tank?
Can you not see/hear the tank coming a mile off? because the tank can't hear you sneaking up behind it, 2 forge shots from behind = dead tank... If your aim sucks throw a few grenades into the mix. |
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Reign Omega
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
959
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Posted - 2014.10.11 03:31:00 -
[61] - Quote
Buwaro Draemon wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once. If you can't destroy a tank with AV then you are doing AV wrong. If you want the tank destroyed then chase it down. Don't just stand in one spot shooting any energy vehicle that nears you. All you will do is scare it off. And I assure you no tanker and pilot will stay still while you shoot at it. You want it destroyed? Chase it down. Also to re-stock a well fitted tank, means about 2-3 matches. My missile Gunnlogi costs over 400k ISK. You'll be doing a huge damage to my wallet if you destroy that tank. Even if I choose to leave it behind. With that said, a respectable tanker/pilot will never abandon it's vehicle. I never abandon my tanks. Even if I know they are one shot away from being destroyed.
Sorry in advance for not snipping, my tablet hates to snip.
A few things....
1) closed beta vet and 400k hurts your wallet? Does not compute.
2) tanks have been P, not OP since I skilled into swarms, proxies, nades, figured out how to call in an LAV, and decided to bring a friend, then they gave me a commando. Then they buffed swarms. Then I got proto forges. And then...and then..and then...
Your average Joe gets killed by tanks because he doesn't have enough sp to have all the goodies I have? Ever seen those clips of poor middle easterners fighting tanks with rocks? Keep on rolling.
I Should hope tanks get stronger, if they can't get BETTER. I kill those things as fast solo as I do most of these helpless blueberries in any suit I wear because they don't have the sp, sound familiar (tanks)? I used to love parking on a tower and farming vehicles all match, but that's because I needed the sp and money lol. Do something to help these dudes out. Vehicles are boring, fighting them and diving them.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
399
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Posted - 2014.10.23 17:42:00 -
[62] - Quote
Reign Omega wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once. If you can't destroy a tank with AV then you are doing AV wrong. If you want the tank destroyed then chase it down. Don't just stand in one spot shooting any energy vehicle that nears you. All you will do is scare it off. And I assure you no tanker and pilot will stay still while you shoot at it. You want it destroyed? Chase it down. Also to re-stock a well fitted tank, means about 2-3 matches. My missile Gunnlogi costs over 400k ISK. You'll be doing a huge damage to my wallet if you destroy that tank. Even if I choose to leave it behind. With that said, a respectable tanker/pilot will never abandon it's vehicle. I never abandon my tanks. Even if I know they are one shot away from being destroyed. Sorry in advance for not snipping, my tablet hates to snip. A few things.... 1) closed beta vet and 400k hurts your wallet? Does not compute. 2) tanks have been P, not OP since I skilled into swarms, proxies, nades, figured out how to call in an LAV, and decided to bring a friend, then they gave me a commando. Then they buffed swarms. Then I got proto forges. And then...and then..and then... Your average Joe gets killed by tanks because he doesn't have enough sp to have all the goodies I have? Ever seen those clips of poor middle easterners fighting tanks with rocks? Keep on rolling. I Should hope tanks get stronger, if they can't get BETTER. I kill those things as fast solo as I do most of these helpless blueberries in any suit I wear because they don't have the sp, sound familiar (tanks)? I used to love parking on a tower and farming vehicles all match, but that's because I needed the sp and money lol. Do something to help these dudes out. Vehicles are boring, fighting them and diving them.
Well the only reason 400K hurts my wallet is because I only have 50 Million ISK. Which keeps going down because of Tanks.
That and the fact that I have never participated in a PC.
Been here since Mordus Private Trials
Closed Beta Vet under 30 million SP ;-;
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1400
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Posted - 2014.10.23 20:23:00 -
[63] - Quote
Don't care about the OP.
He knows that serious tanks don't use plates now.
The said change would only bring plated tanks slightly closer to top of the line.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
302
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Posted - 2014.10.23 21:13:00 -
[64] - Quote
I wonGÇÖt stay too long on the point that a Dropship driver CAN tuck between buildings/structures and hide better than a heavy vehicle (one of the differences between a SKILLED DS operator and just a bragging GÇ£pilotGÇ¥ )...
CCP has mentioned repeatedly that they donGÇÖt like what happened to HAVGÇÖs hard-to-correct speed glitch,.. theyGÇÖve said it many times.
If they are planning to reduce the armour penalty for vehicles, it may be in conjunction with finally reducing the HAVGÇÖs native speed, and they just havenGÇÖt discussed it out loud. In spite of the players who love to exploit a game-glitch, I think many of us feel the solution HAS to involve a return to a slow HAV groundspeed.
A GÇ£proper, fun in the matchesGÇ¥ HAV would:
-- have just enough slow speed to make the driverGÇÖs nervousness go up when GÇ£advancing down that innocent-looking roadGÇ¥,
--make fleeing difficult when under attack, and
--encourage shield/armour stacking as a way to steadily guarantee successful escape/ducking when choosing to shoot it out with an opponent.
The same way a DS or LAV is a very limited tool when I stubbornly operate it solo, the HAV should have limited effectiveness when you choose to drive it out of the garage lone-wolf and are only acting as a mechanized sniper or drive-by hoodlum.
Like the cloak-shotty, these players SHOULD be permitted to have fun using these vehicles that way if they want, but be handicapped enough by the vehicleGÇÖs shortcomings that they have to rely on deeper interaction with their team if they want to consistently affect the red teamGÇÖs gameplay.
The combo of GÇ£returning the oleGÇÖ HAV slownessGÇ¥ + the offer to increase your hull strength without further loss of speed... would be a nice step in the right direction.
I really LIKED having HAVGÇÖs on the battlefield in the past, scaring and killing me around the next corner,... but in their old slow version, not this famous Tommy-the-Tank version.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1396
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Posted - 2014.10.23 22:00:00 -
[65] - Quote
Ah, they can run away now. Check out the vehicle skill tree for armor. Composition, or some such, reduces the armor movement penalty by 10% per level. Trust me, 30% makes a difference.
That and not getting stuck on some stupid barrier. 
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1293
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Posted - 2014.10.23 22:11:00 -
[66] - Quote
Nothing Certain wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:They are reducing the armor penalty on armor plates! now the madds and gunns can run away! Unlike drop ships tanks can hide in between stuff so we have to stop this.
Lets all begin a petion to keep tanks nerfed and AV OP so we can keep the ground game alive. #COD #DEW #YOLO #FB #INSTAGRAM #TWITTER #MONSTERDRINKS AV is so OP now it is ridiculous. We can three shot an Incubus in under 5 seconds, kill a Maddy in 4 and an installation in 6 with only 1 second between shots. We have shield boosters, hardeners, and rep 100% in seconds, plus we can move at 40 m/s and can one shot a heavy dropsuit. Oh wait, that is tanks, AV can't do any of that. We also aren't immune to small arms and we don't get to wear a second dropsuit under our first one. Still, I'm sure that AV is OP compared to tanks, because, ummm, a tank got killed by AV once.
You're not playing WOT because you think your not happy now ?
Hav's should be tanks but not really until you get to advanced and then you have an excuse .
Av is in a great place , trust me .
Let's get out of the habbit of nerf and buff .
I understand you Bro in what ure saying but you have to remember that ure using advanced and proto anti-vehicle , against militia and standard vehicles ( besides ADS's ) .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1293
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Posted - 2014.10.23 22:21:00 -
[67] - Quote
Magnus Amadeuss wrote:
If you can't destroy a tank with AV then you are doing AV wrong.
If you want the tank destroyed then chase it down. Don't just stand in one spot shooting any energy vehicle that nears you. All you will do is scare it off. And I assure you no tanker and
Your advice is for AV... people that move at sub 10 m/s, to chase down tanks that can travel at 20+ m/sec?
Some tanker have figured out how not to be solo'ed. I snuck up on a madrugar, threw two lia dias at him and hit him with 3 volleys from my wiikryojaosfh(sp) launchers (with damage mods) and he still was able to speed away.
Now if there were two of me we would have gangbanged him prety bad, but 1 vs 1 a tank can still easily survive against AV.
Sounds fair to me .
Even though I do plant .. swarm and forge but that's to let one know , " Don't come this way , you have to fly or drive around where you know I am " .., unless you wanna breach and then if you beat me , oh well ... but you better destroy the 2 or 3 spawns around me .
I like the tactical aspect of this game but it just seems the people like to do what they want , they get killed and complain ... nerf and buff ... endless cycle and that's what I'm trying to put a stop to .
Focus on what's important like bugs and glitches and such , build a foundation ... after that we can finish balancing because only thing that's left is to kill exploits and not complaints , true exploits .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
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You can actually reduce the armor pen because there is a skill for that now .
Once the next tier of vehicles are released , that will give people something else to talk about because they will say there overpowered and then the cycle begins again , instead of letting time tell what's imbalanced .
I have investment in vehicles and I feel for the users but at the same time I do AV and I like that so ... I'm drawn but at the same time I have morals and values so I can tell what's right and wrong .
That's prob the main ting from keeping that from happening , the re-introduction ... the complaints .
I see that CCP is learning from their mistakes .
I have to show respect where it's due and their due that to a certain extent .
FF from last year was a huge mistake business wise .
Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
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