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CCP Rattati
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:03:00 -
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Dear players,
here are the numbers as they will get implemented. Most of these numbers should be familiar to those of you following the Hotfix Delta discussion threads.
Without further ado, here are the numbers and changes.
Hotfix Delta Numbers
As this patch contains an awful lot of changes, please let us know if you see any suspicious numbers. For example, some eagle-eyes already caught a copy paste error for the Flaylock clip size (s/b 4 not 2). Much appreciated.
Thanks for the participation
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Jebus McKing
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:08:00 -
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Nice.
You have to post numbers and math to be taken seriously. // @JebusMcKing
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:11:00 -
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Can't read, needs approval!!!
Proud member of Glitched Connection
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Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die
706
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:11:00 -
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I can't read:(
Pie.
Forum warrior level 231423423
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The all mighty-Bacon
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
76
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:12:00 -
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Infine Sentinel wrote:I can't read:(
How did you make that post? |
BlazeXYZ
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:12:00 -
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Access denied. Fix plz
The Blazing Intellect Machine
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:13:00 -
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Rattati fail, access DENIED
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:16:00 -
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Yay he fixed it 
Pie.
Forum warrior level 231423423
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:16:00 -
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I knew I forgot something!
Sorry about that, should work now 
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
12272
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:20:00 -
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I don't believe minnie commandos needed that HP buff but oh well.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:21:00 -
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Loled at "Small multiple tweaks to parameters no one understands" in the rifle section.
I wanna know :'(
Proud member of Glitched Connection
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
12272
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:25:00 -
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Spreadsheet: *Rifles*
Me: "Oh dis gon b gud"
Spreadsheet: *Multiple small tweaks to parameters noone understands*
Me: "Clever girl"
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Jebus McKing
Legio DXIV
663
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:41:00 -
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Quote:Injectors now heal Shields at same % as Armor
Assault Dropship ROF bonus to 3% per level from 10%
Injectors are looking... interesting. Can't wait to try them out.
As a part-time ADS pilot I have to say I like the ROF changes. This makes ADS less effective at attacking tanks.
Also with that ADS price reduction getting sucker-punched by invisible AV now won't hurt as much anymore.
You have to post numbers and math to be taken seriously. // @JebusMcKing
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:44:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:Quote:Injectors now heal Shields at same % as Armor
Assault Dropship ROF bonus to 3% per level from 10% Injectors are looking... interesting. Can't wait to try them out. As a part-time ADS pilot I have to say I like the ROF changes. This makes ADS less effective at attacking tanks. Also with that ADS price reduction getting sucker-punched by invisible AV now won't hurt as much anymore.
Yep and also the cost of small turrets so should be even cheaper.
And I also forgot to add the mobile CRU fitting reduction, will add it now.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:47:00 -
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Oh this is a good start to my Monday morning. SP and Spreadsheets. I really like the helping hand for new players with Academy extension and lvl 1 skills given.
Thank god for the burst changes.
Projectile weapons will do 15/15 in Delta son!
Thanks Rattati for the work and effort you've committed yourself to.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:55:00 -
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In reference to 'Swarms - Maximum range': is this the range the missiles explode if they do not hit their intended target?
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
7706
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:56:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Oh this is a good start to my Monday morning. SP and Spreadsheets. I really like the helping hand for new players with Academy extension and lvl 1 skills given.
Thank god for the burst changes.
Projectile weapons will do 15/15 in Delta son!
Thanks Rattati for the work and effort you've committed yourself to.
And I extend those thanks to team Storm Raiders, CCP Logibro, CCP Frame and CCP Rouge, who make this possible.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
786
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:57:00 -
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MLT Afterburners appear to have 150% Thrust, which is the same as a Delta PRO Afterburner.
Alt of Halla Murr.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
7706
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:57:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:In reference to 'Swarms - Maximum range': is this the range the missiles explode if they do not hit their intended target?
Yes, because swarms travel either a distance, or a limited time, their increased speed would have allowed them to cover more ground. That's why we are hardcoding to 400m, because that's the distance that we balanced towards.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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DJINN Obokata
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:58:00 -
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OMG
ADS is dead lol |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:00:00 -
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DJINN Obokata wrote:OMG
ADS is dead lol And nothing of value was lost.
CCP Rattati wrote:Yes, because swarms travel either a distance, or a limited time, their increased speed would have allowed them to cover more ground. That's why we are hardcoding to 400m, because that's the distance that we balanced towards. Makes sense to me. Thanks.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1538
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:02:00 -
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I like the Rifle change and the awesome 'parameters no one understands'.
Good to see ramming ADSs with Grimsnes and Myron will be easier.. But hey, they're cheaper now, yay.
I will be asking for a respec everyday for my ADS points. No reason to have 4.8 mil into things for a 15% bonus. I remember the days of level 2, its so slow. At least tanks will stop bitching, maybe, possibly...
Enjoying the miniscule health buff to the Minmatar, will be handy in the long run.
If you ever look at Assault bonuses again, can you please give the Minmatar Assault an additional bonus to Explosives. Since a clip size would be OP (as I originally thought) could you give a +1 to ammo capacity (as I also suggested but was burned at the stake).
Oh, and fix the pricing scheme on the LP scanners.
Speaking of LP, did I miss where you talked about adding the racial suits to the LP store? I know you were wanting to do that, and, it shouldn't be that much work..
All in all, another decent hotfix, I won't get much out of it, but, that's why I have a PS4.
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
3301
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:13:00 -
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- Lower Decloak animation to zero (cloak "nerf")
So, as soon as the scout fires the first round from their shotgun they are decloaked? Here's hoping that gets more than a few scouts killed.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:34:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Good to see ramming ADSs with Grimsnes and Myron will be easier.. But hey, they're cheaper now, yay.
I will be asking for a respec everyday for my ADS points. No reason to have 4.8 mil into things for a 15% bonus. I remember the days of level 2, its so slow.
Indeed, and Incubi have been hit with a double whammy: -35% ROF from GADS and then the -24% Small Railgun ROF; at least the Small Railgun damage nerf isn't there, now an Incubus is pretty much only good if you pilot stack. Though I guess putting missiles on them will be less less effective because Python's are also losing their ROF and missiles were more about killing with splash anyway.
But the ROF and AB nerfs will make fighting Forge Gunners hell on earth and the new and improved Swarms will be 'fun' to try and kill in even less time before you run (because increased speed = leave sooner) which you'll have to do for 3-4x as long.
But on the plus side, we'll now only cost as much as an ADV fit HAV! Hooray for minor consolations!  I love how the ROF idea was shoved in at the last moment considering that next to no discussion took place about it: no numbers were discussed or looked at, would've been nice for it to have had more than a week's thought, especially when it impacts one of the two ADSs more heavily.
Alt of Halla Murr.
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man- bear pig
D3ATH CARD
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:39:00 -
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Can you explain the dropsuit changes, or how the spreadsheet is supposed to be read? The spreadsheet isn't exactly clear as to which proposed numbers refer to what Race. Also, what is the "AM-GA" and "GA-MM" columns referring to? |
Kosakai
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:47:00 -
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RIP dropships....... 
PROUD MINMATAR <3 -- IN RUST IS TRUST
FORGE GUN LOVER -- TANK HUNTER
MINJA KNIFER .......
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Extraneus Tercero
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:49:00 -
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1. Did the headshot multipliers for pistols make it? If so which are the numbers
2.is the zoom for the tac sniper lower or higher? and vice versa for standard.
3.how fast is the plasma cannon compared to say a Forge gun?
4. Does the ion pistol still overheat after 1 full charge? |
Evan Gotabor
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:49:00 -
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I guess the ROF reduction is there to put a stop on the gunner stacking, however, you put solo pilots in a very bad position.
5% on ROF would be fare, 10% is OP, but 3% ? Damn-it, do you realise we are putting as much SP as for a proto dropsuits (2 millions more or less) (plus all the additionnals skills to have a worthy ADS that don't blow-up in seconds. And you are telling me I have to put those 16 millions SP of mine in a place where the sun never shine because you don't wan't correct the stacking gunner glitch ?
At this rythm, you can also remove ALL vehicles in hotfix Echo and give a respec to the poeple who put points in LAV, HAV and Dropships. At least if there is no vehicles, you might try to fix the TRUE infantry problem : the scout
I have been patient, I have spent hours (litteraly) to try to explain what is currently wrong with vehicles in dust. I should have expected this sooner...
Now I will go play with my alt scout, at least I can do 30/0 of ratio without being worried about nerf !
Prima Gallicus diplomat. Contact Hubert De LaBatte or me if you have business to do with us.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:51:00 -
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As a dropship user who sucks at pilot turret aiming so has to use them to actually transport people rather than (INCOMING PERSONAL OPINION BE FOREWARNED) butcher their role like people used logistics suits for slaying and use an aerial bus to destroy infantry, I think a "huzzah!" is in order. The reduction of CPU/PG on mCRUs AND the HP/fitting buffs for my beautiful Grimsnes means I can have the Prometheus of times long gone in my arms once again.
*tentatively* Long live DUST 514!
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Jebus McKing
Legio DXIV
664
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:54:00 -
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@Rattati What about the Large Missile Launcher reload changes? Are those coming?
You have to post numbers and math to be taken seriously. // @JebusMcKing
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