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Thor Odinson42 wrote:

843-Vika wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Or he could just get a respec and not quit Dust.

The anti respec thing blows my mind. I truly don't get it. If anything it devalues the 62.5 mil SP that I have for there to be respecs and I don't care. I just want Dust to be populated and for it to be more competitive.

The OP is a great player so he's not one that would greatly benefit from one. But how many blueberries might be decent with a respec? How many players would come back if they advertised it (newsletter)? There is literally nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain.

Simple the anti-respec brigade is all about telling the FoTM chasers to stop being scrubs that chase after the next OP thing and learn to use what you got.

If your not happy with what you got then just save up the sp to get what you want. There ar more then enough triple sp events, and even without them you can easily get into a heavy and a forge gun in 1-2 weeks.

Not to mention that with the combo of swarm, av nades an proxy mines that an assault suit can very easy take out a tank.

I've already responded to all those things and I still don't see the benefit of NOT doing it.

Which suit do you think is FOTM?

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Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 194	Posted - 2014.08.28 20:57:00 - [61] - Quote @thor he could go av and keep what he has now, it would only take a week or two, i dont see the the problem, sorry i just dont deader than A line flares with pockets in the knees
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 662	Posted - 2014.08.28 20:59:00 - [62] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Claims to have all assaults proto. Says he has no versatility logi is life.. logi is WIN [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4474	Posted - 2014.08.28 20:59:00 - [63] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: Explain what it would hurt if he was able to take his SP from Rail Rifle and put it into FG? Try to put some thought into it. Not just, because Eve.[/quote] after this event he could have proto forge and keep his rail, then its just playing the like everybody else [/quote] Do you know how to read? Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 194	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:02:00 - [64] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: Explain what it would hurt if he was able to take his SP from Rail Rifle and put it into FG? Try to put some thought into it. Not just, because Eve. after this event he could have proto forge and keep his rail, then its just playing the like everybody else [/quote] Do you know how to read?[/quote] aye, i do know how to read, and all i see is a bitter vet moaning about **** that is very easy to get. which would be av, which like i pointed out can be had in 1 or 2 weeks deader than A line flares with pockets in the knees
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4474	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:03:00 - [65] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: @thor he could go av and keep what he has now, it would only take a week or two, i dont see the the problem, sorry i just dont Likewise. I don't see the problem with the respec. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1404	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:03:00 - [66] - Quote I'm not sure I agree with the logic, Thor, but to offer an explanation for Monty's comments I would say something like: "It would hurt those players who have been more thoughtful in spending their SP...in that those who have made bad choices in the past would no longer be punished for those bad choices which essentially penalizes those who made better choices." Again, I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment -- like you, I tend to think the overall effect of a respec on the game would be a positive one and that we should look past this concern for the greater good -- but rather offer this explanation in lieu of reading comprehension (or simply ignoring the question) on Monty's part.....Leadfoot
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4474	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:05:00 - [67] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: Explain what it would hurt if he was able to take his SP from Rail Rifle and put it into FG? Try to put some thought into it. Not just, because Eve. after this event he could have proto forge and keep his rail, then its just playing the like everybody else I'm not moaning. I don't want SP back. I have 62.5 mil SP. I want an active playerbase. If respecs keep people around then that's more important than a mantra from a different game. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Death Shadow117 New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 329	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:12:00 - [68] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Can I use a forge? No... After being vehicle spammed the other day it made me realize assaults aren't everything like I thought they were.. Hell ccp could just transfer my aur and omegas to my alt psn and I'd be happy with that. Since a respec is such a terrible thing apparently. i just went on proto fits and knocked up an a-1 sentinel with proto forge, if your core skills are maxed with this event you could have it in 1 or 2 weeks, nut the ** up man cmon. infact ** combat and rail rifles that is what im skilling next I have all rifles pro 5 they're boring. whats the rifles got to do with anything when you said you wanted av, which i pointed out you could have very quickly? Explain what it would hurt if he was able to take his SP from Rail Rifle and put it into FG? Try to put some thought into it. Not just, because Eve. he thought if he put on glasses he would become smart. Why?
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 194	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:13:00 - [69] - Quote the op complained about having no av, i pointed out he could have it very quickly. i get **** on, typical gd logic deader than A line flares with pockets in the knees
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4475	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:19:00 - [70] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: the op complained about having no av, i pointed out he could have it very quickly. i get ** on, typical gd logic I think it's because a lot of people are tired of the anti respec stuff. I'm a huge Dust fan and I'm seeing the game die right before me. And it bothers me that something that would bring people back (it would, if you argue this then you just want to argue) is frowned up. More than anything frowned up by CCP. I'm honestly starting to believe that there are elements in CCP that don't want Dust/Legion to succeed. For example, whomever decided to announce Legion the way they did after getting warned by the CPM. Level 4 Forum Warrior** Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42

Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1335	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:22:00 - [71] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Reads corp name, laughs and cares that much less. I don't get it Heimdallr69 is in Nyain San, the legendary FOTM corp. The one people point to when something is OP and say "See, if it wasn't OP they wouldn't be running squads of it". I don't see them enough anymore to know if it holds true these days. One could look at your corp name and think, "Just a bunch of scrubs. Ignore". However, the mature and level headed won't fall into that trap. And, FYI, Heim is anything but a FOTM chaser -- if anything, he's the antithesis of FOTM. Well you can't deny that NS used to be the FOTM corp that would run squads of whatever was OP at the moment. Of course other corps did as well but NS was iconic for it. And I wasn't calling Heimdallr69 a FOTM chaser, I was merely explaining OZAROW's post to Thor. At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Fix supply depots
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4475	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:29:00 - [72] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Reads corp name, laughs and cares that much less. I don't get it Heimdallr69 is in Nyain San, the legendary FOTM corp. The one people point to when something is OP and say "See, if it wasn't OP they wouldn't be running squads of it". I don't see them enough anymore to know if it holds true these days. One could look at your corp name and think, "Just a bunch of scrubs. Ignore". However, the mature and level headed won't fall into that trap. And, FYI, Heim is anything but a FOTM chaser -- if anything, he's the antithesis of FOTM. Well you can't deny that NS used to be the FOTM corp that would run squads of whatever was OP at the moment. Of course other corps did as well but NS was iconic for it. And I wasn't calling Heimdallr69 a FOTM chaser, I was merely explaining OZAROW's post to Thor. I understood what he meant. Just didn't see what it had to do with respecs Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 267	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:34:00 - [73] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: 843-Vika wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m. did you miss title of name EVE/dust 514 in eve there are no respecs thats a 10 year game u read spec your stuff if you dont like it allwell get more skillpoints spec next thing if u dont like reading mabey this game is not the one for you....ive been given option of respec but never did it except for forced respecs that never shouldve happened Um in eve skills are based on real time not sp, so idk what eve your playing but in my eve if i want a new ship i have to wait hours, days, weeks, even months to get them, and there is no such thing as a respec. So you think Dust would be better off if people logged in and updated their skill queue then logged off? Did a I say that? No i just corrected the person who tried to say that eve works on a sp system like dust, which it does not.
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 267	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:41:00 - [74] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Or he could just get a respec and not quit Dust. The anti respec thing blows my mind. I truly don't get it. If anything it devalues the 62.5 mil SP that I have for there to be respecs and I don't care. I just want Dust to be populated and for it to be more competitive. The OP is a great player so he's not one that would greatly benefit from one. But how many blueberries might be decent with a respec? How many players would come back if they advertised it (newsletter)? There is literally nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain. Simple the anti-respec brigade is all about telling the FoTM chasers to stop being scrubs that chase after the next OP thing and learn to use what you got. If your not happy with what you got then just save up the sp to get what you want. There ar more then enough triple sp events, and even without them you can easily get into a heavy and a forge gun in 1-2 weeks. Not to mention that with the combo of swarm, av nades an proxy mines that an assault suit can very easy take out a tank. I've already responded to all those things and I still don't see the benefit of NOT doing it. Which suit do you think is FOTM? RIght now the min assault with the clip size to cr and smg and the amarr assault withthe bonus for Scr could be a FoTM but not 100% sure, the Bhmg is definatly a FoTM. Basically anything that over powers everything else in the game is a FoTM and the only people a respec would help the most re the FoTM chasers. The people that spec into things without having the proper support skills behind it and cry that they need respecs when the OP things change. Take the people that cry they can't fit all proto on there suits anymore after the last hotfix nd cry for a buff the the pg/cpu of heavies, yet they don't have there fitting skills maxed out, yet they wanna cry for a buff or respec.
ZB DeLong Nyain San 67	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:42:00 - [75] - Quote Fun fact: Did you know you can skill into Orbitals? YEAH! Open up your skill tree, open up drop suit upgrades and find the section called "Off Map Support". From there, you'll see two different bubbles. I'll list off the tree starting from the top. ______ Off-Map Support: each level up allows you to obtain an OB quicker. 200wp less each notch. (from 5k-4k) ______ OBS Range/Width: each level up allows a 2m range bonus. (Lvl 1 OBS req.) OBS Timing/Longevity: each level up allows your OB to last longer, more strikes over time. Each lvl up gives you 1 extra second for the OB to last. (Lvl 3 OBS req.) ______ Ok now I forget the SP multiplier though :( would someone mind opening up the skill tree for me and posting it here for me? Thankyou, I appreciate it! PS, if you didn't know this... Pshh you're a blue. Been fighting this war since beta. When can I go home and see my family again? Will I survive this brutality? :)
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3368	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:47:00 - [76] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: the op complained about having no av, i pointed out he could have it very quickly. i get **** on, typical gd logic and to the op as a final request please biomass with all your isk, muppet. i just had to sorry Nice. You can kiss my ass on your way out of my thread. Good day. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 195	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:54:00 - [77] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: the op complained about having no av, i pointed out he could have it very quickly. i get **** on, typical gd logic and to the op as a final request please biomass with all your isk, muppet. i just had to sorry Nice. You can kiss my ass on your way out of my thread. Good day. good luck getting a respec peace deader than A line flares with pockets in the knees
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3369	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:06:00 - [78] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: the op complained about having no av, i pointed out he could have it very quickly. i get **** on, typical gd logic and to the op as a final request please biomass with all your isk, muppet. i just had to sorry Nice. You can kiss my ass on your way out of my thread. Good day. good luck getting a respec peace Whaaat you really leaving? Here picture this I have 3 proto suits I don't use and 2 rifles. I have pro 5 and don't use, a respec would allow me to do something useful with my sp instead of grinding. I just don't see any good arguments against a respec. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
ZB DeLong Nyain San 76	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:10:00 - [79] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: the op complained about having no av, i pointed out he could have it very quickly. i get ** on, typical gd logic and to the op as a final request please biomass with all your isk, muppet. i just had to sorry Nice. You can kiss my ass on your way out of my thread. Good day. good luck getting a respec peace Whaaat you really leaving? Here picture this I have 3 proto suits I don't use and 2 rifles. I have pro 5 and don't use, a respec would allow me to do something useful with my sp instead of grinding. I just don't see any good arguments against a respec. I don't really understand how to remove all the other bull** from the quote, but this is for Heim's last thing on the thingy up there ^ up above. CCP isn't giving any respecs at all right now, right? Aren't they just denying every request? Been fighting this war since beta. When can I go home and see my family again? Will I survive this brutality? :)
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 195	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:20:00 - [80] - Quote just quit m8, nobody will care. burn all your isk and assets deader than A line flares with pockets in the knees

iliel 0uter.Heaven 141	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:21:00 - [81] - Quote ZB DeLong wrote: CCP isn't giving any respecs at all right now, right? Aren't they just denying every request? Yep, they're denying requests. This means either that they're trying to squeeze the final couple bucks out of this game or that they're waiting to release one with some exciting announcement. Occam's razor surely will demonstrate which of these is the truth.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1275	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:53:00 - [82] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: So you'd rather me not help you AV when a team is getting vehicle stomped? At least some people understand though, my faith has been restored! yep at this point it all about if people are still haveing fun. after so many different patches and updates that have completely changed the stuff i put SP into. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 164	Posted - 2014.08.28 23:07:00 - [83] - Quote Respec after delta. Reasonable and logical. The Blazing Intellect Machine
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 268	Posted - 2014.08.28 23:32:00 - [84] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: Explain what it would hurt if he was able to take his SP from Rail Rifle and put it into FG? Try to put some thought into it. Not just, because Eve. after this event he could have proto forge and keep his rail, then its just playing the like everybody else I'm not moaning. I don't want SP back. I have 62.5 mil SP. I want an active playerbase. If respecs keep people around then that's more important than a mantra from a different game. Eve and dust are not 2 different games they are 2 parts of a whole game, we have eve the space pilots that support us with troop transport, albeit it is mostly npc based but that could have been done differently, and the foot troops fight on the ground, meaning dust. They are based of the same lore so how are they different games? Basically a respec will punish the players that have planned out there sp and put in in the key areas for the role they wanted to play and rewards the players that chased after the next OP things and didn't bother putting it in the areas that are important for their roles. What a respec will do is tell everyone "To Hell With Proper Skill Planning and Just Chase After whatever is OP at the time and when that changes just cry and whine and b!tch and you will get to put your sp in the next OP things" and that would just ruin the game way more then the CoD scrubs did when they started playing the game. I hear so many FoTM chasers that skilled into the min scout crying to remove the hacking bonus in place of an Ewar skill or change the hacking skills to effect the cloaks. Yet the people that have been a min scout from the start understand that min scouts don't need ewar passives on the suit because it runs just fine without it. It is the players like that, that have no real understand of how the suit works because they keep switching suits and weapons as soon as the next OP stuff is put in effect, and that is what the anti-respec bgade is trying to prevent, rewarding the FoTM chase instead of rewarding the players that planned where their skills go.
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 268	Posted - 2014.08.28 23:39:00 - [85] - Quote [ BlazeXYZ wrote: Respec after delta. Reasonable and logical. Nope, not reasonable at all
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1130	Posted - 2014.08.28 23:58:00 - [86] - Quote I see that I'm late to this refund thread , sorry I was playing Dust all of you should know how I feel about this topic by now and hopefully around , after or once Delta drops it won't be anymore . Long overdue . Now I can see why it wasn't done . I am thankful for that now and appreciate the foresight by CCP . After infantry changes there is no reason not to , like vehicles had theirs . Game will get so much more competitive afterwards and that's always a good thing . More people enjoying themselves , greater numbers build-up , more money for CCP ( even though I won't be playing legion , I can't ignore the business aspect . ) and maybe more people will stop complaining about everything , trying to get everything nerfed . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1615	Posted - 2014.08.29 00:23:00 - [87] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m. did you miss title of name EVE/dust 514 in eve there are no respecs thats a 10 year game u read spec your stuff if you dont like it allwell get more skillpoints spec next thing if u dont like reading mabey this game is not the one for you....ive been given option of respec but never did it except for forced respecs that never shouldve happened Gonna have to speak up about this flawed argument. Eve has no respects, but eve has an entirely passive so system. If a fotm comes about in eve, I can simply put skills into the skill queue and stop playing until I have the skills I chose. Not so in dust. As well, cross training in eve is a hell of a lot easier than in dust. Eve skills let you quickly spec into a wide variety of ships. Dust has a separate skill for each individual suit type. This makes cross training far more intensive skilling into another type of suit far more intensive sp wise Than skilling into another ship in dust. Far more importantly, skilling up is SO MUCH EASIER than in dust. The electronic/eengineeringngineering skills in eve are a x1 multipier. Compare that to the x6 multiplier the exact same skill in dust is. And even then, you need FAR LESS SP for an equivalent multiplier in eve. Level 1 of an x1 skill in dust is 6220 sp. In eve, the same skill would cost 250 sp. So please, stop bringing up the argument that eve doesn't give respects. You are comparing two totally different types of games. Its like saying that since apples go in a fruit salad, and a tomato is fruit, then tomatoes should go in a fruit salad. Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2548	Posted - 2014.08.29 00:32:00 - [88] - Quote Big red respec button in the MQ, any time you want it. Because it doesn't matter (now more than ever), and no one should ever care how anyone else spends their SP. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the *whole* game. Red line snipers and tankers hate it.
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 166	Posted - 2014.08.29 00:33:00 - [89] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: [ BlazeXYZ wrote: Respec after delta. Reasonable and logical. Nope, not reasonable at all How so? Tell me one reason why. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Atiim 11691	Posted - 2014.08.29 00:44:00 - [90] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Claims to have all assaults proto. Says he has no versatility Can I use a forge? No... After being vehicle spammed the other day it made me realize assaults aren't everything like I thought they were.. Hell ccp could just transfer my aur and omegas to my alt psn and I'd be happy with that. Since a respec is such a terrible thing apparently. Have you thought about investing into Swarm Launchers? DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND



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