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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2014.08.28 20:09:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Or he could just get a respec and not quit Dust.
The anti respec thing blows my mind. I truly don't get it. If anything it devalues the 62.5 mil SP that I have for there to be respecs and I don't care. I just want Dust to be populated and for it to be more competitive.
The OP is a great player so he's not one that would greatly benefit from one. But how many blueberries might be decent with a respec? How many players would come back if they advertised it (newsletter)? There is literally nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain.
Simple the anti-respec brigade is all about telling the FoTM chasers to stop being scrubs that chase after the next OP thing and learn to use what you got.
If your not happy with what you got then just save up the sp to get what you want. There ar more then enough triple sp events, and even without them you can easily get into a heavy and a forge gun in 1-2 weeks.
Not to mention that with the combo of swarm, av nades an proxy mines that an assault suit can very easy take out a tank.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 20:16:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m. did you miss title of name EVE/dust 514 in eve there are no respecs thats a 10 year game u read spec your stuff if you dont like it allwell get more skillpoints spec next thing if u dont like reading mabey this game is not the one for you....ive been given option of respec but never did it except for forced respecs that never shouldve happened
Um in eve skills are based on real time not sp, so idk what eve your playing but in my eve if i want a new ship i have to wait hours, days, weeks, even months to get them, and there is no such thing as a respec. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 20:17:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:After playing nothing but assaults since day 1 closed beta I just wanted a change of pace. But I guess that'll just have to wait hopefully destiny is good and the halo's 1-4 remastered. lol i played destiny its a money grab lol
And Dust isn't just a money grab? |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:34:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:843-Vika wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m. did you miss title of name EVE/dust 514 in eve there are no respecs thats a 10 year game u read spec your stuff if you dont like it allwell get more skillpoints spec next thing if u dont like reading mabey this game is not the one for you....ive been given option of respec but never did it except for forced respecs that never shouldve happened Um in eve skills are based on real time not sp, so idk what eve your playing but in my eve if i want a new ship i have to wait hours, days, weeks, even months to get them, and there is no such thing as a respec. So you think Dust would be better off if people logged in and updated their skill queue then logged off?
Did a I say that? No i just corrected the person who tried to say that eve works on a sp system like dust, which it does not. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:843-Vika wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Or he could just get a respec and not quit Dust.
The anti respec thing blows my mind. I truly don't get it. If anything it devalues the 62.5 mil SP that I have for there to be respecs and I don't care. I just want Dust to be populated and for it to be more competitive.
The OP is a great player so he's not one that would greatly benefit from one. But how many blueberries might be decent with a respec? How many players would come back if they advertised it (newsletter)? There is literally nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain. Simple the anti-respec brigade is all about telling the FoTM chasers to stop being scrubs that chase after the next OP thing and learn to use what you got. If your not happy with what you got then just save up the sp to get what you want. There ar more then enough triple sp events, and even without them you can easily get into a heavy and a forge gun in 1-2 weeks. Not to mention that with the combo of swarm, av nades an proxy mines that an assault suit can very easy take out a tank. I've already responded to all those things and I still don't see the benefit of NOT doing it. Which suit do you think is FOTM?
RIght now the min assault with the clip size to cr and smg and the amarr assault withthe bonus for Scr could be a FoTM but not 100% sure, the Bhmg is definatly a FoTM. Basically anything that over powers everything else in the game is a FoTM and the only people a respec would help the most re the FoTM chasers.
The people that spec into things without having the proper support skills behind it and cry that they need respecs when the OP things change. Take the people that cry they can't fit all proto on there suits anymore after the last hotfix nd cry for a buff the the pg/cpu of heavies, yet they don't have there fitting skills maxed out, yet they wanna cry for a buff or respec. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:32:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Explain what it would hurt if he was able to take his SP from Rail Rifle and put it into FG? Try to put some thought into it. Not just, because Eve. after this event he could have proto forge and keep his rail, then its just playing the like everybody else I'm not moaning. I don't want SP back. I have 62.5 mil SP. I want an active playerbase. If respecs keep people around then that's more important than a mantra from a different game.
Eve and dust are not 2 different games they are 2 parts of a whole game, we have eve the space pilots that support us with troop transport, albeit it is mostly npc based but that could have been done differently, and the foot troops fight on the ground, meaning dust.
They are based of the same lore so how are they different games?
Basically a respec will punish the players that have planned out there sp and put in in the key areas for the role they wanted to play and rewards the players that chased after the next OP things and didn't bother putting it in the areas that are important for their roles. What a respec will do is tell everyone "To Hell With Proper Skill Planning and Just Chase After whatever is OP at the time and when that changes just cry and whine and b!tch and you will get to put your sp in the next OP things" and that would just ruin the game way more then the CoD scrubs did when they started playing the game.
I hear so many FoTM chasers that skilled into the min scout crying to remove the hacking bonus in place of an Ewar skill or change the hacking skills to effect the cloaks. Yet the people that have been a min scout from the start understand that min scouts don't need ewar passives on the suit because it runs just fine without it. It is the players like that, that have no real understand of how the suit works because they keep switching suits and weapons as soon as the next OP stuff is put in effect, and that is what the anti-respec bgade is trying to prevent, rewarding the FoTM chase instead of rewarding the players that planned where their skills go. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:39:00 -
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[BlazeXYZ wrote:Respec after delta. Reasonable and logical.
Nope, not reasonable at all
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.29 17:05:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:As I stated before without a respec I will not go AV I will hoard my sp for legion. You expect me to help you but I get nothing in return, though I want a respec for my reasoning why did you shoot down the others who asked for one? You want to keep your sp advantage over the newer players is the only reason for saying no.
So basically instead of using the sp you earn in game to add to your skill tree and help out your corp/squad/team, your going to be a little cry baby b!tch and just cry that your not getting your way. Gotcha, keepo up the little cry baby whining and I'm sure you will go very far. FYI there is no confirmation that legion will ever exist, so saving your sp will do you absolutly no good.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.29 18:48:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:You know what it's fine we don't need a respec o7. I'm done here. It gets tiring fast. I'm done as well. All seven of the anti-respec dudes can keep discussing it's merits in a year when they are playing each other battle after battle.
Just because respecs are given out it does not mean more people are going to play. There are to many things about dust that are so poorly handled that drives people away, like the endless nerf/buff cycle, poor rendering, hit dectetion issues, and that's just naming a few.
If a new player decides to play as a tanker and then tanks get nerfed into the ground like the flaylock then then they would quit, either because they had to wait a certain time for a respec or if they got it right away and went to infantry they would get stomped because they don't know how to use infantry properly, since infantry plays differently then other fps games.
So either way there are many other reasons for new players to quit besides not getting a respec. Besides a respec only help the people who skilled into the last OP thing and not people who are happy where there skills are.
Do i have skills in things i don't use sure, since i tried every weapon in dust of course i do, but i know after i finsh certain skills i plan on getting other suit besides my min scout and min sentinel and min commando. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.30 00:49:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:RayRay James wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Then have more events Then there's no need for Respecs Why does it have to be an SP event? These are getting old. Why not have ISK events? Have a weekend were FW has increased salvage and officer weapon drops for winning battles. There are many, many things that could be done. They just haven't been trying very hard. I want more players and better matches. I am obviously having something akin to a religious debate with you about respecs. I see nothing wrong with CCP making an effort to get the players back that they ran off after FF. I think that's a pretty good olive branch. I'd like a bpo event or at least different colored suits of what you get kills with. Like say I get a kill with min assault then I get a green min assault suit. I wouldn't mind that, well the numbers to low.. Isk, yeah it'd help new players a lot.
A bpo event would be a great idea, this way people could get the bpo stuff they missed or allow people to get bpo stuff that was never given the chance.
Put the militia bpo stuff back in the market and put the rest up as an event, similar to the million clone event, but make it for the bpo stuff |
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