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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:04:00 -
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After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m.
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Vordred Knight
is a scrub.
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:10:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m. you lie your sitting at 34 mil sp :P
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men.
2669
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:15:00 -
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Claims to have all assaults proto.
Says he has no versatility
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:22:00 -
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Vordred Knight wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m. you lie your sitting at 34 mil sp :P Hmm am I ?
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:25:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Claims to have all assaults proto.
Says he has no versatility Can I use a forge? No... After being vehicle spammed the other day it made me realize assaults aren't everything like I thought they were.. Hell ccp could just transfer my aur and omegas to my alt psn and I'd be happy with that. Since a respec is such a terrible thing apparently.
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
399
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:31:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Claims to have all assaults proto.
Says he has no versatility Can I use a forge? No... After being vehicle spammed the other day it made me realize assaults aren't everything like I thought they were.. Hell ccp could just transfer my aur and omegas to my alt psn and I'd be happy with that. Since a respec is such a terrible thing apparently.
Wait, you're upset you can't use a heavy weapon on a light suit, so you want a respec?
Train reading comprehension to at least 3 first, then... well, still no respec.
Train a heavy suit, train Forge, now you have assaults AND heavies, no need to logout of game to switch styles. You've just doubled your potential benefit in match. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:36:00 -
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Or he could just get a respec and not quit Dust.
The anti respec thing blows my mind. I truly don't get it. If anything it devalues the 62.5 mil SP that I have for there to be respecs and I don't care. I just want Dust to be populated and for it to be more competitive.
The OP is a great player so he's not one that would greatly benefit from one. But how many blueberries might be decent with a respec? How many players would come back if they advertised it (newsletter)? There is literally nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:37:00 -
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I'm always in favor of a respec because I believe it encourages competition. Also I want my SP in swarm launchers back.
Was just playing with a newberry last night that created a character and then didn't play. When he did decide to play he had 4 mil sp and ended up dumping it into a suit (I forget which) and the AR because some dude wiped the floor with him using that. He went on about how he couldn't understand how that guy pretty much insta killed him with the same thing he's getting wrecked in. I asked him what his core skills where on and he didn't know what I was talking about so I explained it to him. Afterwards he said he wished there was a way to refund skill points; I told him they have done a few respecs but it's not likely that they'll do another one; to which he told me that sucks.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:43:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Or he could just get a respec and not quit Dust.
The anti respec thing blows my mind. I truly don't get it. If anything it devalues the 62.5 mil SP that I have for there to be respecs and I don't care. I just want Dust to be populated and for it to be more competitive.. That right there is the reason I believe most of the anti-respec people are against them. A lot of dust players are afraid of competition; of course they'll never admit it but it's easy to tell which of them are (especially when they rage against respecs).
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4441
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:47:00 -
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I think it comes from Eve.
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OZAROW
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:50:00 -
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Reads corp name, laughs and cares that much less.
Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4445
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:52:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Reads corp name, laughs and cares that much less.
I don't get it
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3355
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:54:00 -
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So you'd rather me not help you AV when a team is getting vehicle stomped? At least some people understand though, my faith has been restored!
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:55:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think it comes from Eve.
It does.
I came to Dust because of it's (supposed) tie to EVE. The back stabbing, team killing, "keep you a$$ cheeks tight cuz you don''t know who's behind you", no place safe that I know and love.
Granted, CCP did a lot of things that torpedoed this game long before Fanfest '14.
As for the competition part, I already suck, an if I got a respec the points would go right back into the places they are now.
The anti-respec crowd also comes from the fact that people whine so much about snipers, forges, tanks, ads, REs, CR, AR, Lazors, Scramblers.... getting the point? Something get's balanced, people respec, now ALL you see in the field is the new FOTM. At least w/o a respec, it takes a few weeks before everyone is running the FOTM. |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3356
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:00:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think it comes from Eve. It does. I came to Dust because of it's (supposed) tie to EVE. The back stabbing, team killing, "keep you a$$ cheeks tight cuz you don''t know who's behind you", no place safe that I know and love. Granted, CCP did a lot of things that torpedoed this game long before Fanfest '14. As for the competition part, I already suck, an if I got a respec the points would go right back into the places they are now. The anti-respec crowd also comes from the fact that people whine so much about snipers, forges, tanks, ads, REs, CR, AR, Lazors, Scramblers.... getting the point? Something get's balanced, people respec, now ALL you see in the field is the new FOTM. At least w/o a respec, it takes a few weeks before everyone is running the FOTM. I understand this but still.. Most of them already have fotm, if it's that much of a bother then have CCP transfer my aur and omega over to my alt psn. There now I have what I need without capping 2 characters every week. I can't leave this acc cuz it has 200k aur which I hope transfers to legion. But a respec would benefit more players than not.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:01:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think it comes from Eve. It does. I came to Dust because of it's (supposed) tie to EVE. The back stabbing, team killing, "keep you a$$ cheeks tight cuz you don''t know who's behind you", no place safe that I know and love. Granted, CCP did a lot of things that torpedoed this game long before Fanfest '14. As for the competition part, I already suck, an if I got a respec the points would go right back into the places they are now. The anti-respec crowd also comes from the fact that people whine so much about snipers, forges, tanks, ads, REs, CR, AR, Lazors, Scramblers.... getting the point? Something get's balanced, people respec, now ALL you see in the field is the new FOTM. At least w/o a respec, it takes a few weeks before everyone is running the FOTM.
But if it is unbalanced then it gets balanced quickly. So who cares? This isn't the Dust of 2013 where stuff stayed broken for 6 months. Rattati is doing a good job balancing a game that would be a nightmare to try and balance.
There are a lot of things that could be FOTM right now. I personally think the Gal Scout is the deadliest suit in the hands of the right person, but I don't see them being spammed right now. The Cal Assault is a great suit as well. The CR, the RR, the SCR are all whined about. Then the HMG.
In other words I don't think there is anything like the Calogi of old that you can point to and say "there's the FOTM".
Add in the fact that FW is more active and I think a lot of people would skill into the faction they like. I don't think the FOTM deal carries even remotely the amount of weight that it did 6 months ago.
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:01:00 -
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call me cynical but if ccp gave full respecs the vast majority would skill into heavies with hmgs and scouts with shotguns
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3356
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:05:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:call me cynical but if ccp gave full respecs the vast majority would skill into heavies with hmgs and scouts with shotguns 90% of dust already has that so not much would change.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:08:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:OZAROW wrote:Reads corp name, laughs and cares that much less. I don't get it Heimdallr69 is in Nyain San, the legendary FOTM corp. The one people point to when something is OP and say "See, if it wasn't OP they wouldn't be running squads of it". I don't see them enough anymore to know if it holds true these days.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4447
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:08:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:call me cynical but if ccp gave full respecs the vast majority would skill into heavies with hmgs and scouts with shotguns 90% of dust already has that so not much would change.
But I don't buy it.
There are people who decided they like to logi and have SP in all kinds of crap that could be spent on better equipment. You have scouts that want to slay with the new assault suits. You could go on. The biggest benefactors would be the scrubbiest people in Dust that have figured out the skilling system enough to make themselves better with wiser choices.
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:08:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:call me cynical but if ccp gave full respecs the vast majority would skill into heavies with hmgs and scouts with shotguns 90% of dust already has that so not much would change.
i do still get the odd game now and then with variety in dropsuits, but full respecs would kill that off totally
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4449
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:14:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:call me cynical but if ccp gave full respecs the vast majority would skill into heavies with hmgs and scouts with shotguns 90% of dust already has that so not much would change. i do still get the odd game now and then with variety in dropsuits, but full respecs would kill that off totally
That's BS.
I don't know much about the Gal Assault, but the other three assaults are VERY powerful.
Campers love the Cal Commando with RR. The Amarr and Min scouts are actually viable now (the min scout is crazy fun).
I think more than likely you'll see a lot of people move from scouts and heavies back into assault.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3358
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:17:00 -
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After playing nothing but assaults since day 1 closed beta I just wanted a change of pace. But I guess that'll just have to wait hopefully destiny is good and the halo's 1-4 remastered.
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:25:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Claims to have all assaults proto.
Says he has no versatility Can I use a forge? No... After being vehicle spammed the other day it made me realize assaults aren't everything like I thought they were.. Hell ccp could just transfer my aur and omegas to my alt psn and I'd be happy with that. Since a respec is such a terrible thing apparently. Forge plugh av makes me spit. The only appropriate av is a particle cannon.
Why?
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
174
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:25:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m.
did you miss title of name EVE/dust 514 in eve there are no respecs thats a 10 year game u read spec your stuff if you dont like it allwell get more skillpoints spec next thing if u dont like reading mabey this game is not the one for you....ive been given option of respec but never did it except for forced respecs that never shouldve happened
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:27:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:After playing nothing but assaults since day 1 closed beta I just wanted a change of pace. But I guess that'll just have to wait hopefully destiny is good and the halo's 1-4 remastered.
lol i played destiny its a money grab lol
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4449
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:34:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:After having all assaults proto since 1.6 I think it's time for a respec. Yes I know it was my choice to skill all assaults but now I have no versatility. And with the upcoming changes to sidearms that'd be the perfect chance for a respec. No I don't have 60m sp I have around 33m. did you miss title of name EVE/dust 514 in eve there are no respecs thats a 10 year game u read spec your stuff if you dont like it allwell get more skillpoints spec next thing if u dont like reading mabey this game is not the one for you....ive been given option of respec but never did it except for forced respecs that never shouldve happened
But Dust has been shelved for a different game because it wasn't as successful as they'd hoped.
Maybe they should have tried leveling out the multipliers a bit and offering respecs. Maybe increased payouts. Maybe made the rollover system a thing.
Perhaps it would wiser to try to appeal to a wider group of people or at least look at an alternative approach when so many veteran players start to leave.
Bigger playerbase > MMO space game mantra
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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:34:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:After playing nothing but assaults since day 1 closed beta I just wanted a change of pace. But I guess that'll just have to wait hopefully destiny is good and the halo's 1-4 remastered.
Or, you could just train into something else. You've got the core done, right? So throw SP into another suit to adv and play it.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4449
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:40:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:After playing nothing but assaults since day 1 closed beta I just wanted a change of pace. But I guess that'll just have to wait hopefully destiny is good and the halo's 1-4 remastered. Or, you could just train into something else. You've got the core done, right? So throw SP into another suit to adv and play it. You're acting like you can't advance yourself at all anymore.
I think you are missing the point. It appears he doesn't want to grind to something else when he has the SP he could use.
Would it be better if we could update our skill queue and log off for a month?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4449
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:41:00 -
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If you wanted to get down to it, I think Eve would be better off for the next 10 years if they gave players more of a reason to play. Active SP is much better in my opinion than passive SP.
And it's kind of a moot point. Someone in Eve can sell their character and buy one that's skilled the way they like.
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