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843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:33:00 - [1] - Quote Why did you do it CCP? Why did you make the scope on the Thale zoom the exact same as every other sniper rifle? What was the point of having an "Officer" Snipe Rifle that is supposed to be better then every other Sniper Rifle in the game, but now you made it no better then the rest. The best part of the Thale Sniper Rifle was the increased zoom of the scope. Please CCP change the zoom of the scope back to the way it was, and make it worth using again.
Abber Dietmart Vendetta Reactionary Force 4	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:39:00 - [2] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Why did you do it CCP? Why did you make the scope on the Thale zoom the exact same as every other sniper rifle? What was the point of having an "Officer" Snipe Rifle that is supposed to be better then every other Sniper Rifle in the game, but now you made it no better then the rest. The best part of the Thale Sniper Rifle was the increased zoom of the scope. Please CCP change the zoom of the scope back to the way it was, and make it worth using again. Because I guess they figured its time for you to get out of the redline.
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1090	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:39:00 - [3] - Quote Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3122	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:40:00 - [4] - Quote It still does a heck of a lot more damage. The zoom scope was incredibly OP. I can still hit stuff at that range with a normal rifle, it's just a lot harder. The further out you are, the harder it should realistically be to hit something. And yeah, it does encourage Thale's users to at least be a bit closer to the redline than they were before. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5219	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:57:00 - [5] - Quote Couldn't it see beyond rendering distance?. So basically it was zero risk unless an unlucky ob guess actually got you. Iv been hoarding all my officer gear and not used a single piece because shiny. "Oh, look!, There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear". "Don't tell me those things".
noob cavman And the ButtPirates 1764	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:19:00 - [6] - Quote Wait. so using a thales at 10 or less meters.... is a bad idea? I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:20:00 - [7] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. Everyone still has BPO LAV's so idk what you are talking about. Who cares about your Forge Gun. Snipers are supposed to be long range. This isn't Call of Doody where you run and gun Quick Scope
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1099	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:23:00 - [8] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Why did you do it CCP? Why did you make the scope on the Thale zoom the exact same as every other sniper rifle? What was the point of having an "Officer" Snipe Rifle that is supposed to be better then every other Sniper Rifle in the game, but now you made it no better then the rest. The best part of the Thale Sniper Rifle was the increased zoom of the scope. Please CCP change the zoom of the scope back to the way it was, and make it worth using again. When did they do that ? I have been playing GTA 5 , LOU , going over a friend's house and watching them play The Witcher games while smoking kush , playing some other games as well because the forums and this game started becoming dead to me . I see I took the right time to take a break and prob won't be back until Delta and if we don't get the infantry or full SP refund after Delta , then I'm done so I'm playing other games now and just wanted to check the forums to see what was going on . Seems like nothing special but more changes that kind of makes no since , so will they change the action on the rest of the officer's weapons or are they just screwing snipers again ? Will they boost the performance of sidearms , thus making them OP because they just gave their damage mods the biggest increase ? I'm tired of sitting around waiting for CCP to get this right while they experiment and while doing so , drive off more of their player base . It seems like whatever some in the forum community complain about ... CCP comes in and changes things , not thinking about what or why things need to be changed ( still not changing things that need to be addressed like bugs and such ) , what direction to go in , are these people complaining just being over reactive ... it's just getting repetitive and I for one need a deserved break from all of this drama . I guess most of these same people won't be around for legion so why now get rid of them now , right ??? I was missing out on playing some fun games because I was trying to stick around but no more . I'm having fun now and I will see most of you in a couple of months . Have fun . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5797	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:23:00 - [9] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. Everyone still has BPO LAV's so idk what you are talking about. Who cares about your Forge Gun. Snipers are supposed to be long range. This isn't Call of Doody where you run and gun Quick Scope It's still long-range, it just doesn't have the super-easy-mode scope. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:24:00 - [10] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: It still does a heck of a lot more damage. The zoom scope was incredibly OP. I can still hit stuff at that range with a normal rifle, it's just a lot harder. The further out you are, the harder it should realistically be to hit something. And yeah, it does encourage Thale's users to at least be a bit closer to the redline than they were before. It's an officer weapon, its supposed to be OP, other wise all you have is another prototype weapon, since my charge sniper did the same damage but at a closer distance. This isn't Call of Doody with run and gun, quick scope sniping and if a CPM thinks it should be like that then we need a new CPM.

HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 344	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:25:00 - [11] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: It still does a heck of a lot more damage. The zoom scope was incredibly OP. I can still hit stuff at that range with a normal rifle, it's just a lot harder. The further out you are, the harder it should realistically be to hit something. And yeah, it does encourage Thale's users to at least be a bit closer to the redline than they were before. Just noticing I hadn't been "thals'd" from 585m for a few days... My logi thanks you. Lonewolf till I die
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1091	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:27:00 - [12] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. Everyone still has BPO LAV's so idk what you are talking about. Who cares about your Forge Gun. Snipers are supposed to be long range. This isn't Call of Doody where you run and gun Quick Scope No it's dust 514 where we hack objectives and pit our skills and tactics against other players to come up with genius ideas to kill each other. And who cares about your scrubby rifle, I bet more people would welcome the gastuns 3k dmg return over any idea of ever buffing sniper rifles. Why should your officer rifle be so OP you can kill people from further than they could see with a sniper of their own? If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
Cass Caul 748	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:39:00 - [13] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: pit our skills and tactics against other players to come up with genius ideas to kill each other. What game are you playing, because all I see are a bunch of scrubby little red and blue dots like you that charge head first into enemy bullets and complain that someone shot them from behind. Math is easy, you're just stupid. The Empress of Alts
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:40:00 - [14] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. Everyone still has BPO LAV's so idk what you are talking about. Who cares about your Forge Gun. Snipers are supposed to be long range. This isn't Call of Doody where you run and gun Quick Scope No it's dust 514 where we hack objectives and pit our skills and tactics against other players to come up with genius ideas to kill each other. And who cares about your scrubby rifle, I bet more people would welcome the gastuns 3k dmg return over any idea of ever buffing sniper rifles. Why should your officer rifle be so OP you can kill people from further than they could see with a sniper of their own? Because your Balac and krin assault rilfe is OP compaired to your dauvalle Because your Gastuns hmg and fg is OP compaired to your boundless Because your Wolfmans is more OP the the proto SP Because the smg Officer is more OP the the proto smg Why should my Thale get nerf but the rest are left alone?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1099	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:42:00 - [15] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. I just don't think that redline snipers are the blame more than their options of having ** poor spots to choose from on most maps . This game has went from a game that touted , " Play your own style or way " .. to play the way that we dictated you to play threw taking away most of your options and placing you in a small box to maneuver in . If you can't see that and you still want to point the finger at who's the blame , then that's why these thing continue to happen and nothing gets done because your pointed in the wrong direction to begin with . The more I see this I see myself getting ready to not play Dust again , it's all on what happens with Delta . Snipers are the last people to blame , they were playing the game the way it was suppose to be played . Ask a real Ranger or your own local Army spokes person , are snipers supposed to be spotted ..??... do good snipers sit in the open while performing their job ..??.. are they that close to the action ..??.. , I just believe that most in the community just look for any and everything to complain about and that's the real reason that this game has been screwed for so long , coupled with the fact that CCP changes direction like changing seasons . Snipers are not to blame . I'm still getting shot by cloaked scouts , still have trouble running up certain terrain and I could be using the scout suit , which is suppose to be nimble , I still get stuck in crevices .. I mean what are your priorities people ..??.. are you trying to balance the game or just get rid of people and players that you just don't like because their not playing the game the way that you want them to . Shame upon them for thinking outside the box . So why don't we just take away that option ??? This is so sad but ... have fun with that people , this game will be different when I play again and I'm sure of that , will it be better is the real question . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.**
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3062	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:45:00 - [16] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. Everyone still has BPO LAV's so idk what you are talking about. Who cares about your Forge Gun. Snipers are supposed to be long range. This isn't Call of Doody where you run and gun Quick Scope No it's dust 514 where we hack objectives and pit our skills and tactics against other players to come up with genius ideas to kill each other. And who cares about your scrubby rifle, I bet more people would welcome the gastuns 3k dmg return over any idea of ever buffing sniper rifles. Why should your officer rifle be so OP you can kill people from further than they could see with a sniper of their own? Because your Balac and krin assault rilfe is OP compaired to your dauvalle Because your Gastuns hmg and fg is OP compaired to your boundless Because your Wolfmans is more OP the the proto SP Because the smg Officer is more OP the the proto smg Why should my Thale get nerf but the rest are left alone? PROTO SP!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1099	Posted - 2014.08.18 20:56:00 - [17] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: It still does a heck of a lot more damage. The zoom scope was incredibly OP. I can still hit stuff at that range with a normal rifle, it's just a lot harder. The further out you are, the harder it should realistically be to hit something. And yeah, it does encourage Thale's users to at least be a bit closer to the redline than they were before. No it doesn't . I just promotes the use of Charged Sniper Rifles . Why loose a Thale when a Charged can do the same job . This is just not right unless all officer's weapons have the same treatment , unless the sniper community was singled out and is showed by this , that they are not valued . All officers weapons should have the same treatment and not just the Thale . These statements that you make seem like you are in agreement with this change but you are not being fair by just changing the performance of the Thale without visiting all officer weapons . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:02:00 - [18] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Why did you do it CCP? Why did you make the scope on the Thale zoom the exact same as every other sniper rifle? What was the point of having an "Officer" Snipe Rifle that is supposed to be better then every other Sniper Rifle in the game, but now you made it no better then the rest. The best part of the Thale Sniper Rifle was the increased zoom of the scope. Please CCP change the zoom of the scope back to the way it was, and make it worth using again. The gastun hmg also got nerfed it jams now just like all the other hmgs.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3132	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:09:00 - [19] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: It's an officer weapon, its supposed to be OP, other wise all you have is another prototype weapon, since my charge sniper did the same damage but at a closer distance. A Thale's should still be superior to a Charge rifle overall. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1094	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:13:00 - [20] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: pit our skills and tactics against other players to come up with genius ideas to kill each other. What game are you playing, because all I see are a bunch of scrubby little red and blue dots like you that charge head first into enemy bullets and complain that someone shot them from behind. Obviously this one duh If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.

TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5228	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:14:00 - [21] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: It still does a heck of a lot more damage. The zoom scope was incredibly OP. I can still hit stuff at that range with a normal rifle, it's just a lot harder. The further out you are, the harder it should realistically be to hit something. And yeah, it does encourage Thale's users to at least be a bit closer to the redline than they were before. No it doesn't . It just promotes the use of Charged Sniper Rifles . Why loose a Thale when a Charged can do the same job . This is just not right unless all officer's weapons have the same treatment , unless the sniper community was singled out and is showed by this , that they are not valued . All officers weapons should have the same treatment and not just the Thale . These statements that you make seem like you are in agreement with this change but you are not being fair by just changing the performance of the Thale without visiting all officer weapons . Except the Thales doesn't have to charge up. "Oh, look!, There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear". "Don't tell me those things".
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 330	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:22:00 - [22] - Quote lol, i actually like the idea of the thales and the charge having the same scope, it will allow me to change to a stronger rifle without needing to change my tactics to adjust to a zoom that is too powerful for my preferred spots. (don't worry fellow snipers i'm relatively sure i'm a minority there.) but the new reticule is inaccurate for them all anyway. just think it's funny as one of the very few who would of liked it, i have 0 thales anyway and since 1.1 have only ever had 12. gotta love irony haven't you. now to get some thales.. i'll try the player market i guess..
Death Shadow117 New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 293	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:22:00 - [23] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: Because redline sniping, because my gastun forgegun no longer deals 3k damage. Because redline snipers abuse them. Remember what happened when people abused the free LAV BPO? Yeah...we need that again here. I still have logi lav bpo's and, ive only seen a few other people with them. Why?
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5228	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:25:00 - [24] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: lol, i actually like the idea of the thales and the charge having the same scope, it will allow me to change to a stronger rifle without needing to change my tactics to adjust to a zoom that is too powerful for my preferred spots. (don't worry fellow snipers i'm relatively sure i'm a minority there.) but the new reticule is inaccurate for them all anyway. just think it's funny as one of the very few who would of liked it, i have 0 thales anyway and since 1.1 have only ever had 12. gotta love irony haven't you. now to get some thales.. i'll try the player market i guess.. If it makes you feel any better, I have 71 and I don't ever plan on using them. Edit: I could if I wanted though. I hope that makes you feel good. o7 lol. "Oh, look!, There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear". "Don't tell me those things".
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 226	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:32:00 - [25] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: 843-Vika wrote: It's an officer weapon, its supposed to be OP, other wise all you have is another prototype weapon, since my charge sniper did the same damage but at a closer distance. A Thale's should still be superior to a Charge rifle overall. Have you ever used either one of them? Before the zoom got nerfed yes the Thale out preformed the Charge because you were able to use it at a much further distance. Now that they both have the same zoom they work just the same except you dont have to charge the Thale
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 331	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:34:00 - [26] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: lol, i actually like the idea of the thales and the charge having the same scope, it will allow me to change to a stronger rifle without needing to change my tactics to adjust to a zoom that is too powerful for my preferred spots. (don't worry fellow snipers i'm relatively sure i'm a minority there.) but the new reticule is inaccurate for them all anyway. just think it's funny as one of the very few who would of liked it, i have 0 thales anyway and since 1.1 have only ever had 12. gotta love irony haven't you. now to get some thales.. i'll try the player market i guess.. If it makes you feel any better, I have 71 and I don't ever plan on using them. Edit: I could if I wanted though. I hope that makes you feel good. o7 lol. cheers bud, i really appreciated that.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 467	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:36:00 - [27] - Quote I actually like the new zoom on the Thales... It still has higher zoom than the others its just been toned down to where I can actually use it outside of the red line. I say it was an improvement. signed, Not a scrub sniper P.S. I still hate the new scope on any variant that isn't a tactical.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 1798	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:38:00 - [28] - Quote doesn't the thale's have a tactical fire rate and have a 7 round clip? Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5228	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:39:00 - [29] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: lol, i actually like the idea of the thales and the charge having the same scope, it will allow me to change to a stronger rifle without needing to change my tactics to adjust to a zoom that is too powerful for my preferred spots. (don't worry fellow snipers i'm relatively sure i'm a minority there.) but the new reticule is inaccurate for them all anyway. just think it's funny as one of the very few who would of liked it, i have 0 thales anyway and since 1.1 have only ever had 12. gotta love irony haven't you. now to get some thales.. i'll try the player market i guess.. If it makes you feel any better, I have 71 and I don't ever plan on using them. Edit: I could if I wanted though. I hope that makes you feel good. o7 lol. cheers bud, i really appreciated that. Hehe, I would actually give you some now if I could. "Oh, look!, There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear". "Don't tell me those things".
Tread Loudly 2 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 37	Posted - 2014.08.18 21:43:00 - [30] - Quote In all seriousness there is no good spot to use a thales at for 1 simple reason. People see it on the kill board and they begin a quest along with their squad to find you and take your thales from you. The only way to even run one nowadays is in a proto Calmando 5 logi's and a armored convoy beside you... However that is unreasonable I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.



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