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PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 528	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:08:00 - [61] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I only read the first paragraph. Dude, calm down. It's not like orbitals are the whole objective of the game. I haven't dropped an orbital since like early 1.7. All this post says is that the topic isn't interesting enough to you to get involved in to understand in detail. Why did you even bother posting? And are you claiming the squads your in also have never dropped an OB?
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 51	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:20:00 - [62] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I only read the first paragraph. Dude, calm down. It's not like orbitals are the whole objective of the game. I haven't dropped an orbital since like early 1.7. My first solo OB was early 1.7 in a basic gal scout with a basic breach shotty and basic knives w/ a compact nano hive... dies alot but still worth it XD Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 429	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:24:00 - [63] - Quote You remember the slayer logi days? Man, I was getting more OBs than grandma getting action from grandpa
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 51	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:26:00 - [64] - Quote Also OP: what this ended up doing was making team/squad play actually meaningful compared to near constant (every 3 or 4 games) solo OB's by these proto squads, FOTM's, or logi's that repped and supplied all game. I f you want this then fine... become head of CCP and just be a person who promotes that all, even scrubs, should get solo OB's if they exploit or stomp all day. Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Sclompton Face-Smasher uptown456 Dark Taboo 51	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:27:00 - [65] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: You remember the slayer logi days? Man, I was getting more OBs than grandma getting action from grandpa Please for the love of my stomach and tears never use that again!! Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 429	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:29:00 - [66] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Also OP: what this ended up doing was making team/squad play actually meaningful compared to near constant (every 3 or 4 games) solo OB's by these proto squads, FOTM's, or logi's that repped and supplied all game. I f you want this then fine... become head of CCP and just be a person who promotes that all, even scrubs, should get solo OB's if they exploit or stomp all day. I see what you're saying but I think it just widens the gap between organized and disorganized. The 5000 WPs were implemented to slow down OBs from better players wrecking weaker players. The adverse effect is, better players can still get 5000 WPs while weaker players won't even have a prayer to get up to 5000 WPs per squad. Should we care bear just to make things simpler for the novice? I think not Dr. Watson.
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 528	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:31:00 - [67] - Quote Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Also OP: what this ended up doing was making team/squad play actually meaningful compared to near constant (every 3 or 4 games) solo OB's by these proto squads, FOTM's, or logi's that repped and supplied all game. I f you want this then fine... become head of CCP and just be a person who promotes that all, even scrubs, should get solo OB's if they exploit or stomp all day. I see your point - it does - i just don't trust anyone will actually reach out to each other to improve and want to grow in this game. How often do you see new talent enter PC and actually do well? It just doesn't happen, no one is involved enough to want to grow to that level starting from scratch when people like me are running around with nearly 40mil SP spamming Gunlogis, Pythons, and full proto suits, and with more ISK then I can spend. The lack of newbie guidance to explain the HUD or how to even use vehicles and OB's makes the learning curve all the harder on the newer guys, and now they've lost more ability to compete. I think the hit this does to the new players is a bit much. Really needs to be reduced by at least 1000 WP
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 455	Posted - 2014.08.14 02:38:00 - [68] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: I think it should be dependent on how many people are in your squad... 1 - 1500 WP 2 - 2200 WP 3 - 2900 WP 4 - 3600 WP 5 - 4300 WP 6 - 5000 WP aight? I agree with this post. It is rational, concise, deliberate and makes me think of dropping one man orbitals as a logi every minute. Thumbs up, even though Pure Evil is **** and I will drop bombs on G man everytime I see him no matter what. Because, integrity.
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11404	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:08:00 - [69] - Quote It should be noted, that less Warbarge Strikes being deployed means less opportunities to get rid of Tower Campers and other units entrenched on a tower, such as Forge Gunners. I believe that a squad getting 6-10 Warbarge Strikes in one game was excessive, but I wonder if the amount of WP required for an OB can be changed for each game-mode. Also, CCP removed Warbarge Strikes from FW when 1.7 dropped. The only way to obtain one is with an EVE Pilot. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
aaaasdff ertgfdd 211	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:26:00 - [70] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Also OP: what this ended up doing was making team/squad play actually meaningful compared to near constant (every 3 or 4 games) solo OB's by these proto squads, FOTM's, or logi's that repped and supplied all game. I f you want this then fine... become head of CCP and just be a person who promotes that all, even scrubs, should get solo OB's if they exploit or stomp all day. I see what you're saying but I think it just widens the gap between organized and disorganized. The 5000 WPs were implemented to slow down OBs from better players wrecking weaker players. The adverse effect is, better players can still get 5000 WPs while weaker players won't even have a prayer to get up to 5000 WPs per squad. Should we care bear just to make things simpler for the novice? I think not Dr. Watson. Doesnt matter, weaker players were probably never in a sqd anyway, all this does is help keep them from getting farmed by one dude with an ob. This was discussed for months. Its done, let it go. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN

aaaasdff ertgfdd 211	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:28:00 - [71] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: Joel II X wrote: I only read the first paragraph. Dude, calm down. It's not like orbitals are the whole objective of the game. I haven't dropped an orbital since like early 1.7. All this post says is that the topic isn't interesting enough to you to get involved in to understand in detail. Why did you even bother posting? And are you claiming the squads your in also have never dropped an OB? The guy who never plays tells the guy who does play he doesnt understand. I think you better stick to the forums. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 529	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:28:00 - [72] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote: Also OP: what this ended up doing was making team/squad play actually meaningful compared to near constant (every 3 or 4 games) solo OB's by these proto squads, FOTM's, or logi's that repped and supplied all game. I f you want this then fine... become head of CCP and just be a person who promotes that all, even scrubs, should get solo OB's if they exploit or stomp all day. I see what you're saying but I think it just widens the gap between organized and disorganized. The 5000 WPs were implemented to slow down OBs from better players wrecking weaker players. The adverse effect is, better players can still get 5000 WPs while weaker players won't even have a prayer to get up to 5000 WPs per squad. Should we care bear just to make things simpler for the novice? I think not Dr. Watson. Doesnt matter, weaker players were probably never in a sqd anyway, all this does is help keep them from getting farmed by one dude with an ob. This was discussed for months. Its done, let it go. Apperently only idiots discussed it. What you're taking from them is being able to compete and adapt on the battlefield, now they have to take things a step further to compete AS A CASUAL in a CASUAL GAME. That is not acceptable by any means, and whoever "discussed" this these past months should feel bad.
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 530	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:29:00 - [73] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: Joel II X wrote: I only read the first paragraph. Dude, calm down. It's not like orbitals are the whole objective of the game. I haven't dropped an orbital since like early 1.7. All this post says is that the topic isn't interesting enough to you to get involved in to understand in detail. Why did you even bother posting? And are you claiming the squads your in also have never dropped an OB? The guy who never plays tells the guy who does play he doesnt understand. I think you better stick to the forums. I think you better stick to your loud mouth - I have more game time then you easily. I could take a years vacation and still know more. Goml scrub.
aaaasdff ertgfdd 211	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:34:00 - [74] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: Heard it a hundred times, scrub. It has no effect here. Get good enough to get to PC first, then come talk to me. Done many pcs noob, get paid to play it on the regular. Funny you are never in them. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 530	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:37:00 - [75] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: Heard it a hundred times, scrub. It has no effect here. Get good enough to get to PC first, then come talk to me. Done many pcs noob, get paid to play it on the regular. Funny you are never in them. Because i don't play bad corps, not worth my time.
aaaasdff ertgfdd 211	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:40:00 - [76] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: Heard it a hundred times, scrub. It has no effect here. Get good enough to get to PC first, then come talk to me. Done many pcs noob, get paid to play it on the regular. Funny you are never in them. Because i don't play bad corps, not worth my time. Im not in a corp nub, I merc. For whomever drops the isk. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 530	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:43:00 - [77] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: Heard it a hundred times, scrub. It has no effect here. Get good enough to get to PC first, then come talk to me. Done many pcs noob, get paid to play it on the regular. Funny you are never in them. Because i don't play bad corps, not worth my time. Im not in a corp nub, I merc. For whomever drops the isk. Rofl, then for damn sure you'll never be in any of my games. No one hires no name scrubs to fight for them in PC, lol.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1779	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:50:00 - [78] - Quote OH MY GOD i actually have to use teamwork and my brain to earn an OB. Though i bet some peope can earn that solo. This should make ambush and dom more interesting. PSN Sil4ntChaozz We will have serious issues if you group me in with THEM Anything you can do a NINJA can do better
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 58	Posted - 2014.08.14 03:50:00 - [79] - Quote As I said before, 5000wp is far too high of a number. All it does is remove orbitals from the hands of people who don't run with full squads, and marginally slow down the people who were already getting 3/4 orbitals a match.
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2123	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:09:00 - [80] - Quote It was meant to keep squads from dropping multiple Ob's do to them farming WP. It was not all squads it was only a few. Yes you are right it is very difficult for newer players. Sorry but that is how it is in Dust. A few ruin it for the most. Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????

Cass Caul 580	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:37:00 - [81] - Quote PoP SoTa wrote: aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: PoP SoTa wrote: Heard it a hundred times, scrub. It has no effect here. Get good enough to get to PC first, then come talk to me. Done many pcs noob, get paid to play it on the regular. Funny you are never in them. Because i don't play bad corps, not worth my time. Im not in a corp nub, I merc. For whomever drops the isk. Rofl, then for damn sure you'll never be in any of my games. No one hires no name scrubs to fight for them in PC, lol. No one hires anyone, if you're lucky you get compensated for losses. It is an honor to fight with SoTa that's your payment alone. Math is easy, you're just stupid. The Empress of Alts
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 404	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:41:00 - [82] - Quote eve ob's are much different to point accumulated OB's. orbitals form pilots don't require wp but are deployed after a certain amount of time the pilots ship stays in orbit for a certan length of time. roughly every 2 minutes an eve pilot can deploy an orbital on to a requested postion. this timer is also shortened via squad wp accumulation. once the ob is deployed the timer resets. this is only avalible in faction warfare and is working as intended. now. back when OBs were 2500 wp. it was possible for 2man or even 1 man squads to obtain OB's very easly. and when you get a squad of 6 people with say roughly 1500 to 2000 wp each the orbiatlas just rain down. and makes it near impossible for the opposing team to do anything without being nuked to oblivion. NOW we have ob's that require 5k wp which I belive is a good thing. instead of just 2 people getting the OB virtually the entire squad must pitch in to accurie it and now requires that the ob be placed TACTICALLY and be thought through to make that effort worth it, so all in all this just requires teamwork to accomplish and pull off. I like this new ob system and methods of accuirment. working as intended. I played a match last night in my blaster madruagar that is now actually capable of hitting things givein I control it properly. our team was being obliterated on foot. but my maddy was turing the tide. blueberrys plus dquad made a push for objective all in one big clump. enemy team had roughly 7k wp total.....now they deploy an ob....but not on the blueberrys...but my madrugar and it compeltley and uterlly missed my madruarg by a fair margin. (yay for compelx nitro's) the ob hit nothing and didn't kill anything and practically cost the enemy team a win. never saw another ob again. not many teams or squads can achive 10k wp. as far as iam concerned. the new OB wp requirement is a good thing as it prevents any team from spamming oribtals and gurrenteing victory. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Cass Caul 580	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:41:00 - [83] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: You remember the slayer logi days? Man, I was getting more OBs than grandma getting action from grandpa I'm in an armor tanked suit, you're in an armor tanked suit. Why the hell should I be using my AR when I can use CR/RR !? That's why my Logi suits were slayer logi suits right up until today. Now the sheer increase in HP is good enough to make up for the hole caused by me not fitting my suit like an idiot. Logi suits need more HP! It add survivability! I need that so I can heal people! It has nothing to do with making it better at slaying when I rock a Logi gk.0 with a Rail Rifle Math is easy, you're just stupid. The Empress of Alts
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 456	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:42:00 - [84] - Quote On second thought, considering that I, alone, achieved 2500+ WP in the last few matches I was in 5000 for an orbital seems like a great change. It gives people an incentive to squad up, and at less than 1000 WP needed by your squad members it is easily accomplished.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 404	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:43:00 - [85] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Well I agree that it needed to be increased, though 5000 is probably pretty excessive. Also, I thought Warbarge OBs were disabled in FW so the only OB support you get is from EVE pilots, who's OBs are set to the timer, and not tied to WP? I could be wrong on that though. you are correct. pilot obs are set by timers however wp accumulation seems to shorten wait timer. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 537	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:45:00 - [86] - Quote It is a lot less frequent, but I still get contracts for ringing. I think the trick is just to be known for your role. I doubt there's many heavies left with my experience, so when a team is lacking a heavy they can count on I often get called upon over there own corp-mates who may not compete, as well. I ring for free, though. So that may be part of it, lol. :3 Honestly, though, ERA's been the only smart corp about ringing. They actually hired weaker ringers with no loyalties to corps to build that loyalty to them while training the 'ringers' in there ways. It was a genius method to recruit. Of course they'll join the corp fielding and training them and offering them more. I think the creativity in this game is dying, sometimes. :D
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 432	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:47:00 - [87] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: You remember the slayer logi days? Man, I was getting more OBs than grandma getting action from grandpa I'm in an armor tanked suit, you're in an armor tanked suit. Why the hell should I be using my AR when I can use CR/RR !? That's why my Logi suits were slayer logi suits right up until today. Now the sheer increase in HP is good enough to make up for the hole caused by me not fitting my suit like an idiot. Logi suits need more HP! It add survivability! I need that so I can heal people! It has nothing to do with making it better at slaying when I rock a Logi gk.0 with a Rail Rifle what the bloodclot are you talking about man?
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1123	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:47:00 - [88] - Quote Death Shadow117 wrote: aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Im in game right now, Sota, msg my main, INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC. We can 1v1 right now with video capture and have the results up in 15 minutes on youtube. Do it. Do it. DO IT!! **** i wanna see this. no you don't Sota will just run into him with a LAV then jump out and HMG the small amount of health he has left. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 537	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:48:00 - [89] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Death Shadow117 wrote: aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Im in game right now, Sota, msg my main, INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC. We can 1v1 right now with video capture and have the results up in 15 minutes on youtube. Do it. Do it. DO IT!! **** i wanna see this. no you don't Sota will just run into him with a LAV then jump out a HMG the small amount of health he has left. I do it with a HAV these days, a Gunloggi with 6350 shields, proto rail, and a damage mod, lol. Good luck!!!! :)
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 736	Posted - 2014.08.14 04:48:00 - [90] - Quote New players don't give a damn about having orbitals, they want to get AWAY from those back-to-back orbitals. Blueberries weren't getting orbitals when the cost was 2800 WP, especially when they were losing. Hell, most don't even join a squad, so I don't see this hurting them at all. This is just veteran butthurt that their "I WIN' button got rightfully nerfed. Stop being lazy and breach the enemy nest.



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