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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:19:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:NAV HIV wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:You must be. Are you trying to kill peoples incentive to play? Who do you think will be earning 5,000 war points a squad? Publics squads made in squad finder?
You just made it even harder for them to compete, not only will they have iffy squads, but they'll all have to preform reasonably well to even get one OB. While the squad of FA and OH will still be dropping roughly 2 a game per squad.
I'm not sure how exactly this will effect FW guys - but i can't imagine the EvE guys, the very very very few who do drop, aren't happy that they'll be dropping with much less frequency. So you've probably just created a larger rift there, but I may be wrong.
3500 WP should of been the new cap, that 1000 WP makes a difference, it might not seem a lot between 6 players, but in PC the frequency you earn WP is decided by the positioning of you versus your enemy - you're not all going to be raking in WP's constantly. You'll notice in most PC score boards most players never pass 2000 WP total, most not even 1000. That means in PC games, where arguably more WP are earned, 5000 WP is unreasonably high, and will make people form special WP farming logi squads to mass drop OB's while they rep and hive everything around them. Why would it be useful to do that now compared to back then when WP's were cheaper? Because 5000 wp makes OB's all the more valuable, they can change a game in PC. You losing those 3 guys meant 1 guy came in and got rid of all your links, pushing you out of that location and into a poor one.
I would really, really love a dev blog explaining the reasoning of 5000 WP being the new cap. I just think it's just your way of saying, "See how little we care?"
So, CCP, what exactly is your reasoning for damaging pub squads and inciting PC players to play even dirtier? I saw way too many Ammar Assaults being repped by 1 logi... # Assaults 1 Logi... With a Combination of CR, RR and SCR... Very easy OB... Most things in this Hotfix Charlie has been good so far... But changing bonuses to 1 class of Scouts to cater to one class of cry babies... These Cry babies advocated all these changes and now they are crying this is OP that is OP... lol.... Sorry, back to your point... 2500 WP was too easy, 5000 only promoted more Point Ho ing lol Im cool with that. Point hoing yes, but suit and weapon diversity also yes. Lots of diffrent classes on the field from what I seen yesterday.
That's just how early updates are, people testing stuff. When they realize what's working best it'll go back to FOTMing.
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:24:00 -
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Just another example of why OBs shouldn't be tied to WPs at all.
I know it requires a UI update but for legion hopefully they take a page from MAG and make OMS timer based instead of WP based.
B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:25:00 -
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So would you like to see OB's removed from Pub games (Ambush/OMS/Skirmish) completely? |
Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:26:00 -
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On the topic of 1 player being able to drop an OB, I've already done it, so I know it's not impossible as well as if you have an organized squad running pubs you should still be able to easily get two OB's that is if you are running with good guys and not random blue dots ^-^
I Like Tanks, ADS's, and Ion Pistols!
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:27:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:NAV HIV wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:You must be. Are you trying to kill peoples incentive to play? Who do you think will be earning 5,000 war points a squad? Publics squads made in squad finder?
You just made it even harder for them to compete, not only will they have iffy squads, but they'll all have to preform reasonably well to even get one OB. While the squad of FA and OH will still be dropping roughly 2 a game per squad.
I'm not sure how exactly this will effect FW guys - but i can't imagine the EvE guys, the very very very few who do drop, aren't happy that they'll be dropping with much less frequency. So you've probably just created a larger rift there, but I may be wrong.
3500 WP should of been the new cap, that 1000 WP makes a difference, it might not seem a lot between 6 players, but in PC the frequency you earn WP is decided by the positioning of you versus your enemy - you're not all going to be raking in WP's constantly. You'll notice in most PC score boards most players never pass 2000 WP total, most not even 1000. That means in PC games, where arguably more WP are earned, 5000 WP is unreasonably high, and will make people form special WP farming logi squads to mass drop OB's while they rep and hive everything around them. Why would it be useful to do that now compared to back then when WP's were cheaper? Because 5000 wp makes OB's all the more valuable, they can change a game in PC. You losing those 3 guys meant 1 guy came in and got rid of all your links, pushing you out of that location and into a poor one.
I would really, really love a dev blog explaining the reasoning of 5000 WP being the new cap. I just think it's just your way of saying, "See how little we care?"
So, CCP, what exactly is your reasoning for damaging pub squads and inciting PC players to play even dirtier? I saw way too many Ammar Assaults being repped by 1 logi... # Assaults 1 Logi... With a Combination of CR, RR and SCR... Very easy OB... Most things in this Hotfix Charlie has been good so far... But changing bonuses to 1 class of Scouts to cater to one class of cry babies... These Cry babies advocated all these changes and now they are crying this is OP that is OP... lol.... Sorry, back to your point... 2500 WP was too easy, 5000 only promoted more Point Ho ing lol Im cool with that. Point hoing yes, but suit and weapon diversity also yes. Lots of diffrent classes on the field from what I seen yesterday. That's just how early updates are, people testing stuff. When they realize what's working best it'll go back to FOTMing.
Maybe, but I have 4 assault suits, 2 scouts, and 1 sentinel proto and honestly with this assault buff I can do well with any of them. Assaults are good, but my scouts still are also, depends on the map, my weapon, and mood really. Hell I rocked a Gal assault yesterday on Skim Junction with multiple hvys on the other team and was able to do well. My Amarr assault has a regen fit that has roughly 550 armor that reps at 37 per pulse, and 350 shields that rep at almost the same, regen is crazy and therefore viable on that suit, lots of diffrent builds im playing with. Gal scout now has 2 cmplx damage mods and slices, right through other amars when im using a cr on it. My Cal assault has 707 shields  and is performing very well. And the mini assault layout is sweet, but im testing on it today. Ive seen imporvements outside of the wps and I like them.
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:41:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Just another example of why OBs shouldn't be tied to WPs at all.
I know it requires a UI update but for legion hopefully they take a page from MAG and make OMS timer based instead of WP based.
Im cool, with wp based obs in pubs, id like to see them be, more selective, as in other mution choices such as in FW and PC, with choices like Hybrids, Lasers, etc etc, also I like to see them cost MORE wps than they do even now, but cover a larger area and be completely devastating. For example how many times does a tank roll right out of the space artillery im dumping?,
Well what if instead of 5000 wp, I could wait until I reached 7500 wp and this gave me an upgraded mution selection? Such as a higher alpha weapon with smaller area that could be used to precisely kill enemy armor? And the damage was high enough to do so.
Or b4 I got to 5000,, I could instead for 3000 use a emp pulse that killed all that equipment on the round building on iron delta. In other wordss a wider range of space artillery choices, that did diffrent things, and became progressively more powerful the longer you waited to use them. We know this could be done because we do it in FW and PC. I say bring it into pubs, let noobs taste that power. It may also convince people to wait longer to drop in many cases. Possibly resulting in more tactical drops.
Definitely inspiring some awe and fear in those new dots who see them..... As always I think diversity and choice is the key. I play now because of the choices im allowed to make., Gimme more....
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/
Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/
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