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Posted - 2014.08.13 23:21:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:You must be. Are you trying to kill peoples incentive to play? Who do you think will be earning 5,000 war points a squad? Publics squads made in squad finder?
You just made it even harder for them to compete, not only will they have iffy squads, but they'll all have to preform reasonably well to even get one OB. While the squad of FA and OH will still be dropping roughly 2 a game per squad.
I'm not sure how exactly this will effect FW guys - but i can't imagine the EvE guys, the very very very few who do drop, aren't happy that they'll be dropping with much less frequency. So you've probably just created a larger rift there, but I may be wrong.
3500 WP should of been the new cap, that 1000 WP makes a difference, it might not seem a lot between 6 players, but in PC the frequency you earn WP is decided by the positioning of you versus your enemy - you're not all going to be raking in WP's constantly. You'll notice in most PC score boards most players never pass 2000 WP total, most not even 1000. That means in PC games, where arguably more WP are earned, 5000 WP is unreasonably high, and will make people form special WP farming logi squads to mass drop OB's while they rep and hive everything around them. Why would it be useful to do that now compared to back then when WP's were cheaper? Because 5000 wp makes OB's all the more valuable, they can change a game in PC. You losing those 3 guys meant 1 guy came in and got rid of all your links, pushing you out of that location and into a poor one.
I would really, really love a dev blog explaining the reasoning of 5000 WP being the new cap. I just think it's just your way of saying, "See how little we care?"
So, CCP, what exactly is your reasoning for damaging pub squads and inciting PC players to play even dirtier? You do not create the in and outs of Dust based on PC. Pc is upper level competitive play at the upper echelons of the game. Game mechanics should be developed around pubs and the average player because PUBS not PC sustain the game. Pubs>PC.
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Posted - 2014.08.13 23:24:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:You must be. Are you trying to kill peoples incentive to play? Who do you think will be earning 5,000 war points a squad? Publics squads made in squad finder?
You just made it even harder for them to compete, not only will they have iffy squads, but they'll all have to preform reasonably well to even get one OB. While the squad of FA and OH will still be dropping roughly 2 a game per squad.
I'm not sure how exactly this will effect FW guys - but i can't imagine the EvE guys, the very very very few who do drop, aren't happy that they'll be dropping with much less frequency. So you've probably just created a larger rift there, but I may be wrong.
3500 WP should of been the new cap, that 1000 WP makes a difference, it might not seem a lot between 6 players, but in PC the frequency you earn WP is decided by the positioning of you versus your enemy - you're not all going to be raking in WP's constantly. You'll notice in most PC score boards most players never pass 2000 WP total, most not even 1000. That means in PC games, where arguably more WP are earned, 5000 WP is unreasonably high, and will make people form special WP farming logi squads to mass drop OB's while they rep and hive everything around them. Why would it be useful to do that now compared to back then when WP's were cheaper? Because 5000 wp makes OB's all the more valuable, they can change a game in PC. You losing those 3 guys meant 1 guy came in and got rid of all your links, pushing you out of that location and into a poor one.
I would really, really love a dev blog explaining the reasoning of 5000 WP being the new cap. I just think it's just your way of saying, "See how little we care?"
So, CCP, what exactly is your reasoning for damaging pub squads and inciting PC players to play even dirtier? You do not create the in and outs of Dust based on PC. Pc is upper level competitive play at the upper echelons of the game. Game mechanics should be developed around pubs and the average player because PUBS not PC sustain the game. Pubs>PC. Please, leave my thread and never return. You obviously didn't read the OP at all, and I also happen to COMPLETELY disagree with you. Balancing this game on pubs is the worst idea ever. It is your opinion. When you get to be as good as me at pc or pubs I, will leave....... Balancing around public matches is how its done in gaming. Get a clue, then get good.
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Posted - 2014.08.13 23:31:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:You must be. Are you trying to kill peoples incentive to play? Who do you think will be earning 5,000 war points a squad? Publics squads made in squad finder?
You just made it even harder for them to compete, not only will they have iffy squads, but they'll all have to preform reasonably well to even get one OB. While the squad of FA and OH will still be dropping roughly 2 a game per squad.
I'm not sure how exactly this will effect FW guys - but i can't imagine the EvE guys, the very very very few who do drop, aren't happy that they'll be dropping with much less frequency. So you've probably just created a larger rift there, but I may be wrong.
3500 WP should of been the new cap, that 1000 WP makes a difference, it might not seem a lot between 6 players, but in PC the frequency you earn WP is decided by the positioning of you versus your enemy - you're not all going to be raking in WP's constantly. You'll notice in most PC score boards most players never pass 2000 WP total, most not even 1000. That means in PC games, where arguably more WP are earned, 5000 WP is unreasonably high, and will make people form special WP farming logi squads to mass drop OB's while they rep and hive everything around them. Why would it be useful to do that now compared to back then when WP's were cheaper? Because 5000 wp makes OB's all the more valuable, they can change a game in PC. You losing those 3 guys meant 1 guy came in and got rid of all your links, pushing you out of that location and into a poor one.
I would really, really love a dev blog explaining the reasoning of 5000 WP being the new cap. I just think it's just your way of saying, "See how little we care?"
So, CCP, what exactly is your reasoning for damaging pub squads and inciting PC players to play even dirtier? You do not create the in and outs of Dust based on PC. Pc is upper level competitive play at the upper echelons of the game. Game mechanics should be developed around pubs and the average player because PUBS not PC sustain the game. Pubs>PC. Please, leave my thread and never return. You obviously didn't read the OP at all, and I also happen to COMPLETELY disagree with you. Balancing this game on pubs is the worst idea ever. It is your opinion. When you get to be as good as me at pc or pubs I, will leave....... Balancing around public matches is how its done in gaming. Get a clue, then get good. And now you know why most games are bad, later. o/ Lolz, most games are bad? Dude you are bad. I like most games including Dust, you have the problem, you find another game.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 00:43:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:taxi bastard wrote:really? i could get the equivilant of an orbital quite often at 2500WP playing solo.
for your squad not to average 825WP each a game is pretty bad uhm, yea, that's the point. Thanks for pointing that out, sherlock. Want a cookie now? I can put down 1000 wp per game without even trying. Thats 20 kills with no hacks, no links, no scans, no vehicle damage, no nanos.... I mean dude if you cant average 1000 per game,, why are you even in Dust?
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Posted - 2014.08.14 01:01:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:taxi bastard wrote:really? i could get the equivilant of an orbital quite often at 2500WP playing solo.
for your squad not to average 825WP each a game is pretty bad uhm, yea, that's the point. Thanks for pointing that out, sherlock. Want a cookie now? I can put down 1000 wp per game without even trying. Thats 20 kills with no hacks, no links, no scans, no vehicle damage, no nanos.... I mean dude if you cant average 1000 per game,, why are you even in Dust? Are you guys new to the forums? You're no where near my level. If I wanted to see your whole squad in the red-line I'd put them there hard and enjoy the tears. I speak for the people who can't do this, who don't have my SP and knowledge of this game, but just want to enjoy this game casually. Now get off your high horse you scrub,. Lolz youd put me in the redline? ***** please.... Are you new to, Dust? **** the forums. You are ok,, but ive seen you leave matches when you get owned. You might have been good in old Dust, but to me you aint **** in todays Dust. You might have been good back when Eve nerds like Jenza won dust tournaments and that was the level of competition here, noob we are true shooters, from 25 years of fps play, I got 60 mil sp, anything you put on the field ill put down better. Bring that sh11ty sentinel you run so I can make you quit, AGAIN.......
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Posted - 2014.08.14 01:26:00 -
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Im in game right now, Sota, msg my main, INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC. We can 1v1 right now with video capture and have the results up in 15 minutes on youtube.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 01:39:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Im in game right now, Sota, msg my main, INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC. We can 1v1 right now with video capture and have the results up in 15 minutes on youtube. Oh yay, another scrub on the forums trying to prove his biased opinion has meaning through 1v1's in a team based game. Am I supposed to accept? Should I go rushing on right now so you can prove yourself? Or, should I not care like I already do? People know I'm good, they don't know you're good, you'll just have to deal with that. :) SoTa PoP my main - if you ever see me on *LOL* feel free to challenge me again, sure as hell aint logging on so you can let go of your rage of sucking on the forums, lol. And if you want recordings of me there's tons of them - it's called PC games. There's videos of me rocking house and sucking it up. Good games and bad - because I've been here competing in PC since the first day it dropped and arguably have been in more PC's then most current players. GOML I figured youd be sucking it up, you seem like that type. I also figured you would cop deuces, like a boy..... When you get some nutz, besides the ones in your face, let a real mtherfcker, know...
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:26:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Also OP: what this ended up doing was making team/squad play actually meaningful compared to near constant (every 3 or 4 games) solo OB's by these proto squads, FOTM's, or logi's that repped and supplied all game. I f you want this then fine... become head of CCP and just be a person who promotes that all, even scrubs, should get solo OB's if they exploit or stomp all day. I see what you're saying but I think it just widens the gap between organized and disorganized. The 5000 WPs were implemented to slow down OBs from better players wrecking weaker players. The adverse effect is, better players can still get 5000 WPs while weaker players won't even have a prayer to get up to 5000 WPs per squad. Should we care bear just to make things simpler for the novice? I think not Dr. Watson. Doesnt matter, weaker players were probably never in a sqd anyway, all this does is help keep them from getting farmed by one dude with an ob. This was discussed for months. Its done, let it go.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:28:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Joel II X wrote:I only read the first paragraph.
Dude, calm down. It's not like orbitals are the whole objective of the game. I haven't dropped an orbital since like early 1.7. All this post says is that the topic isn't interesting enough to you to get involved in to understand in detail. Why did you even bother posting? And are you claiming the squads your in also have never dropped an OB? The guy who never plays tells the guy who does play he doesnt understand. I think you better stick to the forums.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:34:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Heard it a hundred times, scrub. It has no effect here. Get good enough to get to PC first, then come talk to me. Done many pcs noob, get paid to play it on the regular. Funny you are never in them.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:40:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Heard it a hundred times, scrub. It has no effect here. Get good enough to get to PC first, then come talk to me. Done many pcs noob, get paid to play it on the regular. Funny you are never in them. Because i don't play bad corps, not worth my time. Im not in a corp nub, I merc. For whomever drops the isk.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:18:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:You must be. Are you trying to kill peoples incentive to play? Who do you think will be earning 5,000 war points a squad? Publics squads made in squad finder?
You just made it even harder for them to compete, not only will they have iffy squads, but they'll all have to preform reasonably well to even get one OB. While the squad of FA and OH will still be dropping roughly 2 a game per squad.
I'm not sure how exactly this will effect FW guys - but i can't imagine the EvE guys, the very very very few who do drop, aren't happy that they'll be dropping with much less frequency. So you've probably just created a larger rift there, but I may be wrong.
3500 WP should of been the new cap, that 1000 WP makes a difference, it might not seem a lot between 6 players, but in PC the frequency you earn WP is decided by the positioning of you versus your enemy - you're not all going to be raking in WP's constantly. You'll notice in most PC score boards most players never pass 2000 WP total, most not even 1000. That means in PC games, where arguably more WP are earned, 5000 WP is unreasonably high, and will make people form special WP farming logi squads to mass drop OB's while they rep and hive everything around them. Why would it be useful to do that now compared to back then when WP's were cheaper? Because 5000 wp makes OB's all the more valuable, they can change a game in PC. You losing those 3 guys meant 1 guy came in and got rid of all your links, pushing you out of that location and into a poor one.
I would really, really love a dev blog explaining the reasoning of 5000 WP being the new cap. I just think it's just your way of saying, "See how little we care?"
So, CCP, what exactly is your reasoning for damaging pub squads and inciting PC players to play even dirtier? I saw way too many Ammar Assaults being repped by 1 logi... # Assaults 1 Logi... With a Combination of CR, RR and SCR... Very easy OB... Most things in this Hotfix Charlie has been good so far... But changing bonuses to 1 class of Scouts to cater to one class of cry babies... These Cry babies advocated all these changes and now they are crying this is OP that is OP... lol.... Sorry, back to your point... 2500 WP was too easy, 5000 only promoted more Point Ho ing lol Im cool with that. Point hoing yes, but suit and weapon diversity also yes. Lots of diffrent classes on the field from what I seen yesterday.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:27:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:NAV HIV wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:You must be. Are you trying to kill peoples incentive to play? Who do you think will be earning 5,000 war points a squad? Publics squads made in squad finder?
You just made it even harder for them to compete, not only will they have iffy squads, but they'll all have to preform reasonably well to even get one OB. While the squad of FA and OH will still be dropping roughly 2 a game per squad.
I'm not sure how exactly this will effect FW guys - but i can't imagine the EvE guys, the very very very few who do drop, aren't happy that they'll be dropping with much less frequency. So you've probably just created a larger rift there, but I may be wrong.
3500 WP should of been the new cap, that 1000 WP makes a difference, it might not seem a lot between 6 players, but in PC the frequency you earn WP is decided by the positioning of you versus your enemy - you're not all going to be raking in WP's constantly. You'll notice in most PC score boards most players never pass 2000 WP total, most not even 1000. That means in PC games, where arguably more WP are earned, 5000 WP is unreasonably high, and will make people form special WP farming logi squads to mass drop OB's while they rep and hive everything around them. Why would it be useful to do that now compared to back then when WP's were cheaper? Because 5000 wp makes OB's all the more valuable, they can change a game in PC. You losing those 3 guys meant 1 guy came in and got rid of all your links, pushing you out of that location and into a poor one.
I would really, really love a dev blog explaining the reasoning of 5000 WP being the new cap. I just think it's just your way of saying, "See how little we care?"
So, CCP, what exactly is your reasoning for damaging pub squads and inciting PC players to play even dirtier? I saw way too many Ammar Assaults being repped by 1 logi... # Assaults 1 Logi... With a Combination of CR, RR and SCR... Very easy OB... Most things in this Hotfix Charlie has been good so far... But changing bonuses to 1 class of Scouts to cater to one class of cry babies... These Cry babies advocated all these changes and now they are crying this is OP that is OP... lol.... Sorry, back to your point... 2500 WP was too easy, 5000 only promoted more Point Ho ing lol Im cool with that. Point hoing yes, but suit and weapon diversity also yes. Lots of diffrent classes on the field from what I seen yesterday. That's just how early updates are, people testing stuff. When they realize what's working best it'll go back to FOTMing. Maybe, but I have 4 assault suits, 2 scouts, and 1 sentinel proto and honestly with this assault buff I can do well with any of them. Assaults are good, but my scouts still are also, depends on the map, my weapon, and mood really. Hell I rocked a Gal assault yesterday on Skim Junction with multiple hvys on the other team and was able to do well. My Amarr assault has a regen fit that has roughly 550 armor that reps at 37 per pulse, and 350 shields that rep at almost the same, regen is crazy and therefore viable on that suit, lots of diffrent builds im playing with. Gal scout now has 2 cmplx damage mods and slices, right through other amars when im using a cr on it. My Cal assault has 707 shields and is performing very well. And the mini assault layout is sweet, but im testing on it today. Ive seen imporvements outside of the wps and I like them.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:41:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Just another example of why OBs shouldn't be tied to WPs at all.
I know it requires a UI update but for legion hopefully they take a page from MAG and make OMS timer based instead of WP based. Im cool, with wp based obs in pubs, id like to see them be, more selective, as in other mution choices such as in FW and PC, with choices like Hybrids, Lasers, etc etc, also I like to see them cost MORE wps than they do even now, but cover a larger area and be completely devastating. For example how many times does a tank roll right out of the space artillery im dumping?,
Well what if instead of 5000 wp, I could wait until I reached 7500 wp and this gave me an upgraded mution selection? Such as a higher alpha weapon with smaller area that could be used to precisely kill enemy armor? And the damage was high enough to do so.
Or b4 I got to 5000,, I could instead for 3000 use a emp pulse that killed all that equipment on the round building on iron delta. In other wordss a wider range of space artillery choices, that did diffrent things, and became progressively more powerful the longer you waited to use them. We know this could be done because we do it in FW and PC. I say bring it into pubs, let noobs taste that power. It may also convince people to wait longer to drop in many cases. Possibly resulting in more tactical drops.
Definitely inspiring some awe and fear in those new dots who see them..... As always I think diversity and choice is the key. I play now because of the choices im allowed to make., Gimme more....
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