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JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:11:00 - [1] - Quote Now, shield tanking has gone from underpowered to, holy-**-why-the-**-would-i-use-this? Now, there is nothihg but overpowered amarr assaults with scrambler rifles and lasers. Overpowered because how broken the scr is vs shields and how easy it is to get 800 armor and reps with a suit with a bonus to heat buildup Hotfix delta needs to lowernlaser damage bonus to 10% and maybe tweak the scr, idk, but I quit, this is ridiculous, 800 armor scr wielding suits is just so hilariously broken vs shield suits, go ahead, go into a match with shield suits, see how annoying it is. Bravo, bravo ccp, leaving the scr unchanged vs shields since beta or the release. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:14:00 - [2] - Quote Td;lr Shield suits will now be extinct or shield tanking will because people will stack armo, usihg a shield suit scr wielding suits is impossible. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Zindorak 1.U.P 606	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:16:00 - [3] - Quote Makes sense Armor > Shields Amarr and Gallente > Cadrali and shitmatar Pokemon master
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 358	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:17:00 - [4] - Quote As someone who fields Caldari and saw the patch notes I was pretty sure we was gettin' raped. Tried to warn against some of it but you know how things are with CCP and the community in general. Whatever is popular since 1.8 (Amarr Assaults) people are completely cool and push for them to be bullshit, while less popular suits (Caldari and Minmitar) get thrown to the wayside again. This is why we cannot have nice things. Our community can never be objective and just looks for their time to shine, like tanks did in 1.7 and armor did with the armor buff. Now armor got buffed again because shields got a slight buff? Because, magnets? It will never end.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:18:00 - [5] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Makes sense Armor > Shields Amarr and Gallente > Cadrali and shitmatar Makes sense to have something uncounterable? The scr has been too op to shields for far too long, and you lose a shield proto suit the instant you are shot because you can do nothing unless you hug cover and duck after every shot and use anything but a rr. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 360	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:21:00 - [6] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Zindorak wrote: Makes sense Armor > Shields Amarr and Gallente > Cadrali and shitmatar Makes sense to have something uncounterable? The scr has been too op to shields for far too long, and you lose a shield proto suit the instant you are shot because you can do nothing unless you hug cover and duck after every shot and use anything but a rr. Just ignore him, Amarr Rpers are the biggest trolls in dust. Always thinking they should be special like keeping their logi sidearm and keep their old assault bonus when all the other suits got their **** pushed in.
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 144	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:27:00 - [7] - Quote So is the amarr assualt the fotm The Blazing Intellect Machine
Zindorak 1.U.P 608	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:28:00 - [8] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Zindorak wrote: Makes sense Armor > Shields Amarr and Gallente > Cadrali and shitmatar Makes sense to have something uncounterable? The scr has been too op to shields for far too long, and you lose a shield proto suit the instant you are shot because you can do nothing unless you hug cover and duck after every shot and use anything but a rr. People who use shield suits cannot counter the broken scr at all. Use an Armor suit/Use op RR Pokemon master
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2616	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:34:00 - [9] - Quote Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:35:00 - [10] - Quote Zindorak wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Zindorak wrote: Makes sense Armor > Shields Amarr and Gallente > Cadrali and shitmatar Makes sense to have something uncounterable? The scr has been too op to shields for far too long, and you lose a shield proto suit the instant you are shot because you can do nothing unless you hug cover and duck after every shot and use anything but a rr. People who use shield suits cannot counter the broken scr at all. Use an Armor suit/Use op RR I don't have an op armor suit and the rr doesn't have the dps, just face it, your fotm amarr assault will be nerfed in hf delta, and I can't wait, so I can actually use a shield suit and nit have my whole play style completely unuseable. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1313	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:36:00 - [11] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: I don't have an op armor suit and the rr doesn't have the dps, just face it, your fotm amarr assault will be nerfed in hf delta. RR doesn't have the DPS? I think YOU don't have the aim/strafe skills. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead. Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
Zindorak 1.U.P 608	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:36:00 - [12] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. IKR Whats that weapon called? Its broken does too much damage. Maybe A RR! Pokemon master
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:37:00 - [13] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. They don't have the op dos like the scr has dps vs shields, the scr at proto,or most people, it does 100 damage per shot vs shields, has a high ass fire rate, hipfire and fires 18 rounds before overheat without the bonus? Sounds broken to me, and I've used the std scr before. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 360	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:38:00 - [14] - Quote On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:39:00 - [15] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: I don't have an op armor suit and the rr doesn't have the dps, just face it, your fotm amarr assault will be nerfed in hf delta. RR doesn't have the DPS? I think YOU don't have the aim/strafe skills. Wow, he was right, amarr rp's ARE the biggest trolls. Go ahead, try ti use a rr or arr vs some 800 armor scr suit, see what happens, the damage vs shields is just too high. When a play style is unplayable because someone uses a weapon it's broken. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:40:00 - [16] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. They only tweaked assaults and sentinels. The laser damage bonus to shields needs to be like 10% not 20%....I might make a thread on changes, and maybe buff armor damage by 5%, idk just ideas. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance 1254	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:41:00 - [17] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. My ProCalSen still has four highs. PG was reduced so much that I had to swap an armor rep for a PG module, lulz. "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes."
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 362	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:42:00 - [18] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. They don't have the op dos like the scr has dps vs shields, the scr at proto,or most people, it does 100 damage per shot vs shields, has a high ass fire rate, hipfire and fires 18 rounds before overheat without the bonus? Sounds broken to me, and I've used the std scr before. And yet when the Assault TAC rifle behaved in this manner it got its kick and ROF nerfed into the ground because it was OP. Yet apparently it's okay if the ScR can behave like this with a higher ROF and the added ability to be charged into a shorter range NO SWAY SR. There can never be objectivity on the forums and its why even if the devs listen to us stuff is still imbalanced.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:42:00 - [19] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. My ProCalSen still has four highs. PG was reduced so much that I had to swap an armor rep for a PG module, lulz. I had to drop my kincat and another fitting had to use a enhanced extender and a downgrade of a proto energizet. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:43:00 - [20] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. They don't have the op dos like the scr has dps vs shields, the scr at proto,or most people, it does 100 damage per shot vs shields, has a high ass fire rate, hipfire and fires 18 rounds before overheat without the bonus? Sounds broken to me, and I've used the std scr before. And yet when the Assault TAC rifle behaved in this manner it got its kick and ROF nerfed into the ground because it was OP. Yet apparently it's okay if the ScR can behave like this with a higher ROF and the added ability to be charged into a shorter range NO SWAY SR. There can never be objectivity on the forums and its why even if the devs listen to us stuff is still imbalanced. Idky either. The only balance atm that needs to be dine is vs shields, I don't remember it's dps to armor when proto and a damage mod. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 362	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:44:00 - [21] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. My ProCalSen still has four highs. PG was reduced so much that I had to swap an armor rep for a PG module, lulz. I'm kind of bummed that I can only make use of my adv sentinel now so I can't go as cheap as I used to on a heavy. The Caldari mlt and std heavy/sent has no low slots now... 400 base armor into the toilet you go.
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1315	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:45:00 - [22] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Wow, he was right, amarr rp's ARE the biggest trolls. Go ahead, try ti use a rr or arr vs some 800 armor scr suit, see what happens, the damage vs shields is just too high. When a play style is unplayable because someone uses a weapon it's broken. . That is a whole lot of babble for what should be read as: I can't hack it, but refuse to admit my own lack of skill. I refuse to use my suits advantages and instead want the devs to fix it. Shield tanking is not unplayable. Your bad version of shield tanking is. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead. Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3945	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:45:00 - [23] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. Ikr it's like a weapon with a 95/115 profile doesn't exist to combat both shield and armor tankers Tl; lr use a damn combat rifle you scrub (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:45:00 - [24] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. My ProCalSen still has four highs. PG was reduced so much that I had to swap an armor rep for a PG module, lulz. I'm kind of bummed that I can only make use of my adv sentinel now so I can't go as cheap as I used to on a heavy. The Caldari mlt and std heavy/sent has no low slots now... 400 base armor into the toilet you go. I deleted my adv cal sent fittings. Oh and to other people, there are people who only have amarr suits and caldari suits, the people who use caldari have no counter vs the scr. Rail rifle? Has a little charge up, low rof, and not as much dps vs scr. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:46:00 - [25] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. Ikr it's like a weapon with a 95/115 profile doesn't exist to combat both shield and armor tankers Tl; lr use a damn combat rifle you scrub That still doesn't work, because the moment you get shot, you're dead. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Zindorak 1.U.P 608	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:46:00 - [26] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. Ikr it's like a weapon with a 95/115 profile doesn't exist to combat both shield and armor tankers Tl; lr use a damn combat rifle you scrub Yea OP is a QQer git gud scrub Pokemon master
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 362	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:47:00 - [27] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. Ikr it's like a weapon with a 95/115 profile doesn't exist to combat both shield and armor tankers Tl; lr use a damn combat rifle you scrub That's what I figured ignore the dilemma that a TAC AR was considered OP with lesser stats then the ScR.
Floyd20 Azizora The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 72	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:50:00 - [28] - Quote Only experienced the galscouts with shotguns again. Wonder why?
Zindorak 1.U.P 608	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:51:00 - [29] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. Ikr it's like a weapon with a 95/115 profile doesn't exist to combat both shield and armor tankers Tl; lr use a damn combat rifle you scrub That's what I figured ignore the dilemma that a TAC AR was considered OP with lesser stats then the ScR. The bias has always existed. Tac AR is crap. ScR shouldn't be compared to it. Duvolle and Viziam are the most balanced proto racial weapons Pokemon master
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1315	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:53:00 - [30] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Oh and to other people, there are people who only have amarr suits and caldari suits, the people who use caldari have no counter vs the scr. Rail rifle? Has a little charge up, low rof, and not as much dps vs scr. 800k SP to get into any advanced suit. If you can't figure out how to use your weapon of choice and suit of choice then you need to think about it some more. Maybe rushing headfirst into a suit with more HP carrying a weapon designed to mess your type of suit up isn't the best plan. Shield tankers are supposed to be kitey, so maybe you should start there. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead. Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.

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