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JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:11:00 - [1] - Quote Now, shield tanking has gone from underpowered to, holy-**-why-the-**-would-i-use-this? Now, there is nothihg but overpowered amarr assaults with scrambler rifles and lasers. Overpowered because how broken the scr is vs shields and how easy it is to get 800 armor and reps with a suit with a bonus to heat buildup Hotfix delta needs to lowernlaser damage bonus to 10% and maybe tweak the scr, idk, but I quit, this is ridiculous, 800 armor scr wielding suits is just so hilariously broken vs shield suits, go ahead, go into a match with shield suits, see how annoying it is. Bravo, bravo ccp, leaving the scr unchanged vs shields since beta or the release. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:14:00 - [2] - Quote Td;lr Shield suits will now be extinct or shield tanking will because people will stack armo, usihg a shield suit scr wielding suits is impossible. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:18:00 - [3] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Makes sense Armor > Shields Amarr and Gallente > Cadrali and shitmatar Makes sense to have something uncounterable? The scr has been too op to shields for far too long, and you lose a shield proto suit the instant you are shot because you can do nothing unless you hug cover and duck after every shot and use anything but a rr. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:35:00 - [4] - Quote Zindorak wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Zindorak wrote: Makes sense Armor > Shields Amarr and Gallente > Cadrali and shitmatar Makes sense to have something uncounterable? The scr has been too op to shields for far too long, and you lose a shield proto suit the instant you are shot because you can do nothing unless you hug cover and duck after every shot and use anything but a rr. People who use shield suits cannot counter the broken scr at all. Use an Armor suit/Use op RR I don't have an op armor suit and the rr doesn't have the dps, just face it, your fotm amarr assault will be nerfed in hf delta, and I can't wait, so I can actually use a shield suit and nit have my whole play style completely unuseable. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:37:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. They don't have the op dos like the scr has dps vs shields, the scr at proto,or most people, it does 100 damage per shot vs shields, has a high ass fire rate, hipfire and fires 18 rounds before overheat without the bonus? Sounds broken to me, and I've used the std scr before. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:39:00 - [6] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: I don't have an op armor suit and the rr doesn't have the dps, just face it, your fotm amarr assault will be nerfed in hf delta. RR doesn't have the DPS? I think YOU don't have the aim/strafe skills. Wow, he was right, amarr rp's ARE the biggest trolls. Go ahead, try ti use a rr or arr vs some 800 armor scr suit, see what happens, the damage vs shields is just too high. When a play style is unplayable because someone uses a weapon it's broken. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:40:00 - [7] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. They only tweaked assaults and sentinels. The laser damage bonus to shields needs to be like 10% not 20%....I might make a thread on changes, and maybe buff armor damage by 5%, idk just ideas. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:42:00 - [8] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. My ProCalSen still has four highs. PG was reduced so much that I had to swap an armor rep for a PG module, lulz. I had to drop my kincat and another fitting had to use a enhanced extender and a downgrade of a proto energizet. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:43:00 - [9] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. They don't have the op dos like the scr has dps vs shields, the scr at proto,or most people, it does 100 damage per shot vs shields, has a high ass fire rate, hipfire and fires 18 rounds before overheat without the bonus? Sounds broken to me, and I've used the std scr before. And yet when the Assault TAC rifle behaved in this manner it got its kick and ROF nerfed into the ground because it was OP. Yet apparently it's okay if the ScR can behave like this with a higher ROF and the added ability to be charged into a shorter range NO SWAY SR. There can never be objectivity on the forums and its why even if the devs listen to us stuff is still imbalanced. Idky either. The only balance atm that needs to be dine is vs shields, I don't remember it's dps to armor when proto and a damage mod. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:45:00 - [10] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well. My ProCalSen still has four highs. PG was reduced so much that I had to swap an armor rep for a PG module, lulz. I'm kind of bummed that I can only make use of my adv sentinel now so I can't go as cheap as I used to on a heavy. The Caldari mlt and std heavy/sent has no low slots now... 400 base armor into the toilet you go. I deleted my adv cal sent fittings. Oh and to other people, there are people who only have amarr suits and caldari suits, the people who use caldari have no counter vs the scr. Rail rifle? Has a little charge up, low rof, and not as much dps vs scr. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.

JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 639	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:46:00 - [11] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Gee whiz if there were only weapons that excelled against armor. I don't know, maybe some kind of grenade launcher or a hybrid-rail style automatic weapon. That sure would be swell. Ikr it's like a weapon with a 95/115 profile doesn't exist to combat both shield and armor tankers Tl; lr use a damn combat rifle you scrub That still doesn't work, because the moment you get shot, you're dead. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:00:00 - [12] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Oh and to other people, there are people who only have amarr suits and caldari suits, the people who use caldari have no counter vs the scr. Rail rifle? Has a little charge up, low rof, and not as much dps vs scr. 800k SP to get into any advanced suit. If you can't figure out how to use your weapon of choice and suit of choice then you need to think about it some more. Maybe rushing headfirst into a suit with more HP carrying a weapon designed to mess your type of suit up isn't the best plan. Shield tankers are supposed to be kitey, so maybe you should start there. 800k sp, that would take around a month and I don't want to use overpowered armor tanking, nor should I became someone uses and overpowered gun. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:02:00 - [13] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: That still doesn't work, because the moment you get shot, you're dead. If you are going down that fast, that means you are either a)not moving, b) equipping no tank, or c) up against a mythical shooter who got perfect hits all the way on your 1m move to cover. a) and b) are both your fault and c) is a unicorn. Have you ever even used a shield suit vs a competent scr user? And when I I've used the scr, I almost never missed, because its hipfire, and I kill them instantly, standerd level. It gets worse at oroto and with prof. Oh and my shields are 528, and no, I'm an alicorn, not an unicorn. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:45:00 - [14] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Have you ever even used a shield suit vs a competent scr user? And when I I've used the scr, I almost never missed, because its hipfire, and I kill them instantly, standerd level. It gets worse at oroto and with prof. Oh and my shields are 528, and no, I'm an alicorn, not an unicorn. Yes, proto Cal suits(Scout/logi/Assault) with prof 5 rails, always did just fine. If you have this alleged perfect aim, then you are merely failing in range control. Which is odd, because your suit is faster and more agile. Since you are so pro with the scram, slap it on a Caldari suit and **** face. If you were equally perfect with a RR or CR then armor tankers would present no problem. Stop lying to yourself. If you were half as good as you pretend to be the CR/RR combo would be most effective. It isn't becausre you aren't. Deal with it. The rail rifle doesn't have the dos to down a high armor person in time, and if I get shot while trying to fall back you die. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:48:00 - [15] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: 800k sp, that would take around a month and I don't want to use overpowered armor tanking, nor should I became someone uses and overpowered gun. 800k is two caps. You don't have to use armor tanking. You could always change up and go into scouting, to increase your speed advantage versus those nasty Amarrians. You ever RE a pair of heavies and their logi? Hilarious. All that Scrambler DPS doesn't mean squat when they get juiced. You know what also is less than pleasant for an slow armor suit? Getting forged from a roof top. Caldari heavy excels in that role. Oh you want your shield suit to stand in a face to face fight with a person carrying the weapon that is designed to win that fight and come out on top instead of playing to your suits strengths? Here, have a cup of HTFU. So because someone has a certain weapon they get to be op and instawin? Hardly fair, especially if I'm using proto. And in that case the cal assault is underpowered if I need a scout. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:50:00 - [16] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: LOL - All I heard before the patch was Caldari Assault this Caldari assault that and the Rail Rifle is gonna tear through your 800 armour...well I think this is still happening, its just the guys with Amarr assaults and SCR have had them since they can remember but their dropsuits were hung in the closet because of the scouts. In turn, they have been running scout. Now there are less scouts, the assaults will come out and play. From the one or two games I played TTK is extremely high, and everybody was killing everybody. The amarr is not FoTM, you are probably up against very good SCR users. Not really, it doesn't take skill to 7 shot shield suits. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:51:00 - [17] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Tldr. No one in this thread should be taken seriously when it comes to discussing balance. Shields are hit and run. Maybe your style fits armour, which is basically what you admitted by this thread. How can I hit and run if the split second I'm shot im basically dead? Its shield bonus damage needs to be tuned down to 10% so it doesn't do 100 damage per shot. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:52:00 - [18] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: The rail rifle doesn't have the dos to down a high armor person in time, and if I get shot while trying to fall back you die. OK I get it, it can't be your fault. Sorry for doubting you. Obviously, you are super elite, and the game has been completely broken because you are no longer able to dominate or something equally ridiculous. If I could be motivated to care I would look up your stats and get a good laugh. Probably have a K/D around 1 and a WP/D of less than 100, just from the whining factor in your post. 2.20 kd actually and I mostly solo. And all I want is the scr to not instapwn shields. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 644	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:53:00 - [19] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Have you ever even used a shield suit vs a competent scr user? And when I I've used the scr, I almost never missed, because its hipfire, and I kill them instantly, standerd level. It gets worse at oroto and with prof. Oh and my shields are 528, and no, I'm an alicorn, not an unicorn. Yes, proto Cal suits(Scout/logi/Assault) with prof 5 rails, always did just fine. If you have this alleged perfect aim, then you are merely failing in range control. Which is odd, because your suit is faster and more agile. Since you are so pro with the scram, slap it on a Caldari suit and **** face. If you were equally perfect with a RR or CR then armor tankers would present no problem. Stop lying to yourself. If you were half as good as you pretend to be the CR/RR combo would be most effective. It isn't becausre you aren't. Deal with it. The rail rifle doesn't have the dos to down a high armor person in time, and if I get shot while trying to fall back you die. Yes it does. Everyone here knows it does. Out in the open that armour suit is a sitting duck. Yes, but not every armor suit is in the open, if they are 20m near you, you're kinda screwed unless you really flank them, which I've done, still, the scr has too high shield damage. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.