Not really, it doesn't take skill to 7 shot shield suits.

So everyone runs to scr/ amass and finds out quick it sucks against amass

I'm confused exactly, why are you suddenly complaining about this like it's a result of hotfix charlie, armour tanking recieved 1 buff. +1 HP/s to reactive plates repair rate.

If your complaining about prehaps instead the Amarr Assault buff, this is called tactics.
Amarr are meant to be armour buffer tankers, they always have been.
Amarr are meant to be strong against shields, they always have been.

Giving the amarr hasn't suddenly overpowered them.
Adapt man.

I don't agree with the OP that there is anything wrong with the amarr assault, however I think the real perpetrator of why people feel the amarr is op is that they tend to use the ScR.

I have actually made a militia gallente scout (Intentionally making it vulnerable to combat rifles/rail rifles) and fitted it with a militia scrambler rifle. I have no trouble killing suits even at adv level with boundless CRs in CQC and likewise no issue mowing down RRs at range. I have prof 4 in the scrambler rifle and can pretty easily squeeze out 16 shots before overheating. That is 2 less then the TAC AR which is an adv weapon and not militia. No one will answer this as this is a question that has been asked over and over on the forums since the TAC AR nerf, why are THOSE stats on a TAC AR OP to the forum community but the SAME stats on a ScR is all okay? Overheating? If I had prof 5 I would easily be squeezing out the same amount of shots that the TAC AR has per clip and I would still be okay with about 2 and a half times the clip size. Hell the militia has double the clip size even. Time and time again its this quaint excuse of "The Amarr are so used to using ScR's that they are just so good with them." Get that **** out of here. The issue got ignored for a while when RR and CR came out because they were OP, but since they have been toned down, ScR is still an issue.

I'm complaining about the ScR personally because it has been an issue that gets ignored and brushed away. I was complaining about the ScR before Charlie dropped just like I've been complaining about the sidearm exemption status on the logi.

RR doesn't have the DPS?

I think YOU don't have the aim/strafe skills.

Ikr it's like a weapon with a 95/115 profile doesn't exist to combat both shield and armor tankers











Tl; lr use a damn combat rifle you scrub

If you are going down that fast, that means you are either a)not moving, b) equipping no tank, or c) up against a mythical shooter who got perfect hits all the way on your 1m move to cover.

a) and b) are both your fault and c) is a unicorn.

RR has the lowest DPS of all fine rifles

Excluding the ACR i believe, though i may need to double check that

Now, shield tanking has gone from underpowered to, holy-****-why-the-****-would-i-use-this?

Now, there is nothihg but overpowered amarr assaults with scrambler rifles and lasers. Overpowered because how broken the scr is vs shields and how easy it is to get 800 armor and reps with a suit with a bonus to heat buildup

Hotfix delta needs to lowernlaser damage bonus to 10% and maybe tweak the scr, idk, but I quit, this is ridiculous, 800 armor scr wielding suits is just so hilariously broken vs shield suits, go ahead, go into a match with shield suits, see how annoying it is.


Bravo, bravo ccp, leaving the scr unchanged vs shields since beta or the release.

As someone who fields Caldari and saw the patch notes I was pretty sure we was gettin' raped. Tried to warn against some of it but you know how things are with CCP and the community in general. Whatever is popular since 1.8 (Amarr Assaults) people are completely cool and push for them to be bullshit, while less popular suits (Caldari and Minmitar) get thrown to the wayside again.

This is why we cannot have nice things. Our community can never be objective and just looks for their time to shine, like tanks did in 1.7 and armor did with the armor buff. Now armor got buffed on Amarr because shields got a slight buff last hotfix? Because, magnets? It will never end.

Inb4, nothing is ever wrong with the scrambler. I think the laser is fine as a nieche weapon but I think if your going to have such high alpha damage on a rifle it should have a significant drawback, like that it can only fire when charged. I mean it does more damage then a SR for christs sake and can be spammed especially with a modded controller OR charged.

Weapon balance is never about one stat and a weapon is not only imbalanced if it is the best at everything. Weapons are imbalanced when they perform too many things well. Also, inb4 dps is the only sign of a competitive weapon, no that's oversimplification.

So is the amarr assualt the fotm

Don't worry about these two guys, they're probably still in their teens.

Lol at Cr getting toned down.

Oh ffs, the SCR has a clear weakness.

It's semi auto.
I exploit it all the time when fighting against proto Amarr Assaults and barely even lose my shields.

I will leave it to you to figure out how :)

IKR
Whats that weapon called? Its broken does too much damage. Maybe A RR!

With a ROF that exceeds human ability to pull the trigger... CAN'T IMAGINE THAT GETS EXPLOITED...

But as I will reiterate as the naysayers keep avoiding... why was the TAC AR OP for having roughly the SAME stats that the ScR has always had including when the TAC AR was nerfed.

Shouldn't we bring back the old TAC AR then if clearly the ScR is fine as people keep claiming.

The issue has been obfuscated in the past by first how good the standard variant AR was pre 1.7 and after it was obfuscated by the imbalance of the CR and RR. Now that the other rifles were toned down, the ScR is still a problem by comparison. If you disagree then we should bring back the old TAC AR in Delta, otherwise you are being a hypocrite.

On a side note, did Rattatai only modify assault and sentinels? I'm noticing my Caldari commandos haven't had that 3/0 slot change which I'm glad they didn't but was just wondering. That and the logi and scouts seem to be unaltered as well.

The TAC AR had 60 shots in a clip, more accurate hip fire, better zoom, higher damage per shot.

Wow.

Does that make a CR with MinAssault V a pre-nerf TAR?