DUST Search - We demand 1.9!

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:

Or were you not listening when CCP lost the exclusive Sony deal and had to do a series of Hotfixes instead of updates?

Prove you were at that meeting then.

The "meeting" was called "EvE Fanfest" it's not hard to look around the internet to figure this out.

CCP had a one year, recurring, contract which enabled them to push forward patches at lower cost than normal, for the condition that their game was exclusively on the Playstation. Upon announcing LEGION, they lost the ability to claim said contract for the year as the platform exclusivity had been violated.

If this "exclusivity" had not been a part of the contract, the Devs would have been able to openly talk about Legion for quite some time prior, such as the conceptualization etc.
Or maybe you forgot the comments that were "Laser focused" before?
The Devs at that time were forbidden to even spread the rumor that a platform change was in the mix...

Then they announced Legion, the Devs announced that the price of producing patches had gone up, and that they were no longer in the "preferential treatment" area, hence they told us that they were going to try to fix all they could through "hotfixes" instead of "patches".

I read. I remember.

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Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 274	Posted - 2014.08.10 15:56:00 - [31] - Quote Quote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What would be in it? if it's possible i'd like some new socket types and maps, by socket types i mean something that would make it possible for ccp to alter the maps post 1.9 so that they could effectively create new maps by adjusting the sockets and types in hotfixes i.e on the larger indoor complex maps would it be possible to place multiple small sockets in it's place thus creating the opportunity to change individual parts or all of them and to change the composition of them. e.g the city complex that has two large flat roofed buldings 1 round building and the playstation building, remove the towers and replace them with the underground sections of the chocolate factory/ace in the hole map. or remove the whole city and replace it with the various smaller facilities buildings that are in the maps and placing them together. assuming that they can be shifted around in hotfixes.... but we NEED : .the extra racial heavy weapons, etc. . some sort of player trading. even if we can't get a market then at least some kind of swap system. (player A - x gatsuns/player B - x balacs cofirm trade) . improvements to the immersion of fw (no idea how, a salavage type round? maybe add the dom/ambush types. basic pve against drones... like i said, no idea.)
Spaceman-Rob Space Dusters 484	Posted - 2014.08.10 15:58:00 - [32] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: Breaks my bloody heart what's happening to Dust, first mag and now this! I dread the thought of having battlefield and cod as my only other go to shooter options. Destiny is coming soon. Don't kid yourself mate, Destiny pvp is shite and you know it. I would rather play Dust any day of the week, and the pve I can take or leave it, not bothered, hey I've already got borderlands 2 in my collection anyway so yea.
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 178	Posted - 2014.08.10 16:10:00 - [33] - Quote Vordred Knight wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What would be in it? racial vehicles, racial AV, the return of vehicle variants, and racial heavy weapons I'm thinking along the same things. Although I think we can get in most vehicle variants without the patch. this is true, as they are already coded in the game, that still doesnt give us the AMARR and gallente variants tho they are where? look in the inventory of many of the closed beta vets, you can still find remnants of those removed tanks, which are currently rendered unusable due to CCP "Removing" them from the game when they restructured the skill trees the items are still floating around in the games code somewhere, but they are isolated, and inaccessable I used a minigun when it behaved like laz0rs now i see fake fatties makes and it me so very sad cant even 1v1 my adv fit
Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 32	Posted - 2014.08.10 17:25:00 - [34] - Quote I'd like to see these pilot dropsuits that taunt us in the marketplace. Well, I once meleed an R.E.... I've only ever known 1.8...
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 112	Posted - 2014.08.10 17:32:00 - [35] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What would be in it? racial vehicles, racial AV, the return of vehicle variants, and racial heavy weapons Don't forget the color schemes for weapons and fixing colors for drop suits. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Hakyou Brutor Pure Evil. 984	Posted - 2014.08.10 19:15:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What would be in it? First off, LP variants for everything in the game, Caldari and Amarr scouts, Minmatar Gallente, and Caldari heavies, dampeners, the list goes on and on. Second, as stated above, I would love to have racial vehicles and AV, but I can see that this would take a while seeing as vehicle/AV is probably the most difficult thing to balance. Third, an ability to sell items back from the assets, I know that player market is too hard to develop this late into the game, but I believe it wouldn't be too difficult to make this happen. This is just my list though
iliel 0uter.Heaven 92	Posted - 2014.08.10 19:16:00 - [37] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: iliel wrote: Develop a map with water, an island, and a total possible six objectives! You'll get bored a lot quicker with new maps than you will with new game modes, I know I would rather have new game modes. No: one water map is enough to keep me going for a year or so. Some sort of water vehicle would be in order as well. I at least could wait a month after the map's release for that though.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 377	Posted - 2014.08.10 19:17:00 - [38] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What would be in it? First off, LP variants for everything in the game, Caldari and Amarr scouts, Minmatar Gallente, and Caldari heavies, dampeners, the list goes on and on. Second, as stated above, I would love to have racial vehicles and AV, but I can see that this would take a while seeing as vehicle/AV is probably the most difficult thing to balance. Third, an ability to sell items back from the assets, I know that player market is too hard to develop this late into the game, but I believe it wouldn't be too difficult to make this happen. This is just my list though Also, a give asset option, like isk, or something. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song ever.
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 164	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:06:00 - [39] - Quote If i'm not mistaken, I remember Rattati saying that a new patch isn't Impossible, but it would require you to uninstall Dust and reinstall it for the new stuff. He also said that there are many things he wants to balance with hotfixes before we move on to a full blown patch. AmarrAssault, GalAssault, GalLogi, CalScout GalLogi to the end
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 187	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:40:00 - [40] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: What would be in it? racial vehicles, racial AV, the return of vehicle variants, and racial heavy weapons Don't forget the color schemes for weapons and fixing colors for drop suits. personally to me the color schemes are irrelevant, but then i do prefer function over form, except where the amarr are concerned, then form IS function I used a minigun when it behaved like laz0rs now i see fake fatties makes and it me so very sad cant even 1v1 my adv fit

Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2751	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:44:00 - [41] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: C'mon CCP, there is no legal document saying "you can't add new content to DUST 514" so instead of just sitting around twiddling your thumbs waiting for DUST to die put yourself to work and add more content to DUST, think of it as a beta for Legion. You don't speak for me. Please don't say "we". Also, no one said there were legal issues - they are trying to make changes that don't cost them money to push out a new client for everyone. Server side changes = cheaper than client side. And the changes they are making are good. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16155	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:59:00 - [42] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: C'mon CCP, there is no legal document saying "you can't add new content to DUST 514" so instead of just sitting around twiddling your thumbs waiting for DUST to die put yourself to work and add more content to DUST, think of it as a beta for Legion. You don't speak for me. Please don't say "we". Also, no one said there were legal issues - they are trying to make changes that don't cost them money to push out a new client for everyone. Server side changes = cheaper than client side. And the changes they are making are good. As much money or time. Remember hours don't appear out of thin air; they have to spent one place or another and engineers are very costly and always the lynchpin on every project. Whatever hours we are stealing for dust 514 has to be well worth it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 172	Posted - 2014.08.10 22:30:00 - [43] - Quote Evolution-7 wrote: Atleast MAG lasted longer.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 927	Posted - 2014.08.11 00:17:00 - [44] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Or were you not listening when CCP lost the exclusive Sony deal and had to do a series of Hotfixes instead of updates? Prove you were at that meeting then. The "meeting" was called "EvE Fanfest" it's not hard to look around the internet to figure this out. CCP had a one year, recurring, contract which enabled them to push forward patches at lower cost than normal, for the condition that their game was exclusively on the Playstation. Upon announcing LEGION, they lost the ability to claim said contract for the year as the platform exclusivity had been violated. If this "exclusivity" had not been a part of the contract, the Devs would have been able to openly talk about Legion for quite some time prior, such as the conceptualization etc. Or maybe you forgot the comments that were "Laser focused" before? The Devs at that time were forbidden to even spread the rumor that a platform change was in the mix... Then they announced Legion, the Devs announced that the price of producing patches had gone up, and that they were no longer in the "preferential treatment" area, hence they told us that they were going to try to fix all they could through "hotfixes" instead of "patches". I read. I remember. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 95	Posted - 2014.08.11 01:04:00 - [45] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: this is what i can think of that's missing currently [All the missing Racial gear: Sidearms{Amarr smg}, Snipers{ Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente}, AV weapons{amarr, Minmatar}, HAVs {Amarr, Minmatar} Large/small turrets {Amarr, Minmatar}, Dropships {Amarr, Minmatar}, LAVs {Amarr, Minmatar} MCCs {Amarr, Minmatar}, Missing LP store items {all 1.8 gear}, Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente Warbarge banners, ADV and PRO vehicles and vehicle variants some new maps/sockets would be nice too AMARR/minmatar designed/themed Other than snipers, I totally agree with this. As for snipers, that is the Caldari 'special' weapon. Gallente get Shotguns, Minmitar get Mass Drivers, Amarr get the Laser Rifle, and Caldari have the Sniper Rifle. Everything else though, I would love to see. I'd also like to see two heavy weapons for each race at some point, one for AV and one for AI. Youtube channel
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 63	Posted - 2014.08.11 01:11:00 - [46] - Quote Some maps would be nice
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 137	Posted - 2014.08.11 01:20:00 - [47] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Some maps would be nice Yup. Since dust is a beta for legion than why not make new maps for dust to test out for legion. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16160	Posted - 2014.08.11 19:05:00 - [48] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Or were you not listening when CCP lost the exclusive Sony deal and had to do a series of Hotfixes instead of updates? Prove you were at that meeting then. The "meeting" was called "EvE Fanfest" it's not hard to look around the internet to figure this out. CCP had a one year, recurring, contract which enabled them to push forward patches at lower cost than normal, for the condition that their game was exclusively on the Playstation. Upon announcing LEGION, they lost the ability to claim said contract for the year as the platform exclusivity had been violated. If this "exclusivity" had not been a part of the contract, the Devs would have been able to openly talk about Legion for quite some time prior, such as the conceptualization etc. Or maybe you forgot the comments that were "Laser focused" before? The Devs at that time were forbidden to even spread the rumor that a platform change was in the mix... Then they announced Legion, the Devs announced that the price of producing patches had gone up, and that they were no longer in the "preferential treatment" area, hence they told us that they were going to try to fix all they could through "hotfixes" instead of "patches". I read. I remember. I asked if you were at that meeting; you speak as though you had some authority. Instead the only thing you continue to prove is that your imagination leads you to making some irrational statements. I mean have you ever read that contract as well or just pretending. There are assumptions and there are facts. You're heavily in the assumption field. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 928	Posted - 2014.08.11 21:30:00 - [49] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I asked if you were at that meeting; you speak as though you had some authority. Instead the only thing you continue to prove is that your imagination leads you to making some irrational statements. I mean have you ever read that contract as well or just pretending. There are assumptions and there are facts. You're heavily in the assumption field. And yet you present Nothing to the contrary... http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3040	Posted - 2014.08.11 21:59:00 - [50] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: And yet you present Nothing to the contrary... It is entirely possible for you to be completely wrong, and also not privy to all of the information. Believe it or not. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 928	Posted - 2014.08.11 22:42:00 - [51] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: And yet you present Nothing to the contrary... It is entirely possible for you to be completely wrong, and also not privy to all of the information. Believe it or not. There is a difference between Physical Truth and Actual Truth. That is correct. (These are my own terminology.) Physical Truth is what is currently true with the available resources, Actual Truth is the full reality of the situation. Example: CCP claimed to be "Laser Foused" on the PS3 platform a while back, this was the Physical Truth pushed forward. The Actual Truth at that time was that they were planning on making Legion. Hence they could not tell the public such a thing the Physical Truth was all they could put forward, hence the public truth was the Physical Truth... you see? Now we have this situation. Until the Actual Truth is presented, the Physical Truth remains. Meaning it can be debunked at any time, and I will follow such and admit personal mistake, but without evidence as such it simply does not exist in the public realm. But remember the Physical Truth and the Actual Truth can be one in the same... All that I placed here were the Physical Truth that can be gathered by reading around various news sites, but since you cannot refute it because of the NDA of status etc, the Physical Truth is the public truth. But remember: Lying to the public, whether under contract or not, will always be remembered as Lying to the public. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Michael Arck 5207	Posted - 2014.08.11 23:22:00 - [52] - Quote So what does that have to do with your claims that CCP nullified their "updating contract" with Sony because of Legion announcement at FF? I mean, seriously, where in the hell you got that from? Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 928	Posted - 2014.08.11 23:35:00 - [53] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So what does that have to do with your claims that CCP nullified their "updating contract" with Sony because of Legion announcement at FF? I mean, seriously, where in the hell you got that from? It's in the DEV posts. They explained the lack of this contract as the reason why we were getting hotfixes instead of updates. They said the price of such a thing was now too high. They will have updates in the future, just not as many due to price. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.


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