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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:15:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:They want this game to die so everyone will go play their new game, assuming the come out with it at all.
The bad thing is that they are just giving themselves a bad name with the way they are treating Dust514 and their players. Honestly the way I look at it, "If this is the way they treat a game I won't waste a dime on anything they come out with"
No, they lost their updates deal with Sony BECAUSE they announced LEGION.
Kind of one stupid move after another. Poorly chosen programming team from China, they've been OUT PROGRAMMED by a 17 year old kid who was going solo (Unturned, which is basically a copy of Day Z but made from scratch and a basement apparently if what they say is true). They then tried to balance the game, without ever testing their balance changes.... about 5 times, they didn't learn from that at any point, then they announced Legion and lost their update discounts. Now they are stuck doing hotfixes because it costs too much to apply for an update.
Short sighted with a hint of laziness. Major downfalls were incoming.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:They want this game to die so everyone will go play their new game, assuming the come out with it at all.
The bad thing is that they are just giving themselves a bad name with the way they are treating Dust514 and their players. Honestly the way I look at it, "If this is the way they treat a game I won't waste a dime on anything they come out with" No, they lost their updates deal with Sony BECAUSE they announced LEGION. Kind of one stupid move after another. Poorly chosen programming team from China, they've been OUT PROGRAMMED by a 17 year old kid who was going solo (Unturned, which is basically a copy of Day Z but made from scratch and a basement apparently if what they say is true). They then tried to balance the game, without ever testing their balance changes.... about 5 times, they didn't learn from that at any point, then they announced Legion and lost their update discounts. Now they are stuck doing hotfixes because it costs too much to apply for an update. Short sighted with a hint of laziness. Major downfalls were incoming. This is so completely wrong on a level I cannot describe other than make believe. Really? What doesn't make sense to you. Explain it here, or you're blowing hot air.
Is it: You don't believe a single kid made more progress with a game in under a year than an entire CCP programming team?
Or were you not listening when CCP lost the exclusive Sony deal and had to do a series of Hotfixes instead of updates?
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2014.08.11 00:17:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:
Or were you not listening when CCP lost the exclusive Sony deal and had to do a series of Hotfixes instead of updates?
Prove you were at that meeting then. The "meeting" was called "EvE Fanfest" it's not hard to look around the internet to figure this out.
CCP had a one year, recurring, contract which enabled them to push forward patches at lower cost than normal, for the condition that their game was exclusively on the Playstation. Upon announcing LEGION, they lost the ability to claim said contract for the year as the platform exclusivity had been violated.
If this "exclusivity" had not been a part of the contract, the Devs would have been able to openly talk about Legion for quite some time prior, such as the conceptualization etc. Or maybe you forgot the comments that were "Laser focused" before? The Devs at that time were forbidden to even spread the rumor that a platform change was in the mix...
Then they announced Legion, the Devs announced that the price of producing patches had gone up, and that they were no longer in the "preferential treatment" area, hence they told us that they were going to try to fix all they could through "hotfixes" instead of "patches".
I read. I remember.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2014.08.11 21:30:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
I asked if you were at that meeting; you speak as though you had some authority. Instead the only thing you continue to prove is that your imagination leads you to making some irrational statements.
I mean have you ever read that contract as well or just pretending.
There are assumptions and there are facts. You're heavily in the assumption field.
And yet you present Nothing to the contrary...
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2014.08.11 22:42:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:And yet you present Nothing to the contrary...
It is entirely possible for you to be completely wrong, and also not privy to all of the information. Believe it or not.
There is a difference between Physical Truth and Actual Truth. That is correct. (These are my own terminology.) Physical Truth is what is currently true with the available resources, Actual Truth is the full reality of the situation.
Example: CCP claimed to be "Laser Foused" on the PS3 platform a while back, this was the Physical Truth pushed forward. The Actual Truth at that time was that they were planning on making Legion. Hence they could not tell the public such a thing the Physical Truth was all they could put forward, hence the public truth was the Physical Truth... you see?
Now we have this situation. Until the Actual Truth is presented, the Physical Truth remains. Meaning it can be debunked at any time, and I will follow such and admit personal mistake, but without evidence as such it simply does not exist in the public realm. But remember the Physical Truth and the Actual Truth can be one in the same...
All that I placed here were the Physical Truth that can be gathered by reading around various news sites, but since you cannot refute it because of the NDA of status etc, the Physical Truth is the public truth.
But remember: Lying to the public, whether under contract or not, will always be remembered as Lying to the public.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2014.08.11 23:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:So what does that have to do with your claims that CCP nullified their "updating contract" with Sony because of Legion announcement at FF?
I mean, seriously, where in the hell you got that from?
It's in the DEV posts. They explained the lack of this contract as the reason why we were getting hotfixes instead of updates. They said the price of such a thing was now too high. They will have updates in the future, just not as many due to price.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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