...The cloak has made it too easy for people to call themselves scouts...Either remove the cloak or add a 25% speed penalty while in use. I would rather it just be completely removed though.

I'd like to see an increased Movement Penalty to Armor Plates on Light Frames and Scouts.
Also, remove the Profile Reduction Bonus from cloaks.
But, those are probably too sensible for this community to comprehend, so let the rage commence.

cloaks are for wimps, real men use scouts without cloaks.

The profile reduction bonus on cloaks has already been massivley nerfed. A cloak cannot dampen a scout by itself (10% reduction is minimal at proto). It has to be supplemented with dampeners. There is nothing OP about someone running around 'cloaked' with a red chevron above their head.

Use your eyes, and pay attention when you play the damn game, instead of suggesting "sensible" fixes.

And are you seriously suggesting that tanked scouts are still a serious issue?
Yes Scouts running round with more in a single tank than I can in total eHP is a very serious issue, especially when they still have better Ewar stats (entirely passively), a cloak, a spare equipment, better speed, better regen and smaller hitbox.

It's a very serious ******* issue when a light suit can out tank and out Ewar me simultaneously. Now you can say "why not sacrifice one of those armour plates for dampener?" I would except formthe fact that gives the scout EVEN MORE eHP than me!

HMGs popping me from 40-50 m is an issue right now in dust.
What are you doing to die at that range? Standing Still?

Weak-ass assault suits is an issue right now.
Because everything else is overpowered by comparison, just buffing assaults is a bad solution.

I can kill proto Caldari scouts with a militia scrambler pistol for f's sake.
It's got a 450% headshot multiplier, you can kill heavies with the thing

A real scout is invisible, use cloak to limit CPU/PG, have only sidearm, and has EHP less than 400.

If they have 600+EHP and 2 equip, they are wimps assault who take advantage of scout suit.

I'd like to see an increased Movement Penalty to Armor Plates on Light Frames and Scouts.

Also, remove the Profile Reduction Bonus from cloaks.

But, those are probably too sensible for this community to comprehend, so let the rage commence.

Cloaks do make it too easy. I remember the hard days before cloaks where brought in.

A real scout is invisible, use cloak to limit CPU/PG, have only sidearm, and has EHP less than 400.

If they have 600+EHP and 2 equip, they are wimps assault who take advantage of scout suit.

REs are totally fair game :D

Stop this stupidity. Do you guys remember the time before scouts got cloaks? They where cannonfodder for every 1 cuase they where horrible. The only thing they got is stealth and ewar and thats it. The HP you can get on a proto scout with ewar mods is allmost the same like a decently fitted standard assault. Instead of complaining why dont you spec gal.logi, equip 4 focused scanners and go hunt scouts? The gallente logi is the hard counter though nobody uses it.

1 scanner logi in a 6 man squad renders all scouts useless cause a scanned scout is a dead scout period.

Uh, would you like me to teach you how to talk creative smack? The tears out ya **** thing really doesn't work out well.

Because all i see is a bunch of scrubs running around with 400 armor and combat rifles. The cloak has made it too easy for people to call themselves scouts while the real ones take fire from it. 2 options in place i will give. Either remove the cloak or add a 25% speed penalty while in use. I would rather it just be completely removed though.
O and to all of the people that will come in and say they love my tears. Here is a warm cup of my *** now drink it and read my sig.

TBH I use my cloak to get behind groups of people or cross open terrain where someone could just look in my direction and kill me. I find the cloak a very useful tool to compensate for my low EHP on a EWAR scout. I have a problem with the decloak time as I decloak well before engaging my enemy. If you don't do that the sprint bug kicks in. I say up the decloak time. i wouldn't mind at all

Stop this stupidity. Do you guys remember the time before scouts got cloaks? They where cannonfodder for every 1 cuase they where horrible. The only thing they got is stealth and ewar and thats it. The HP you can get on a proto scout with ewar mods is allmost the same like a decently fitted standard assault. Instead of complaining why dont you spec gal.logi, equip 4 focused scanners and go hunt scouts? The gallente logi is the hard counter though nobody uses it.

1 scanner logi in a 6 man squad renders all scouts useless cause a scanned scout is a dead scout period.

Yes, yes, nice sig, very mature, we are all impressed with your intellect.

If your scout suit does indeed make you sick, then don't use it. Much easier solution than removing this or changing that to accommodate your personal hangups.

When you become an adult you will learn things change that don't always please you personally. Deal with it and shut the hell up. You are no more important than any other player here; new or vet.

1 word.. Cloak.

it gets under the active scanner all the time so stfu you dont know what your on about

Stop this stupidity. Do you guys remember the time before scouts got cloaks? They where cannonfodder for every 1 cuase they where horrible. The only thing they got is stealth and ewar and thats it. The HP you can get on a proto scout with ewar mods is allmost the same like a decently fitted standard assault. Instead of complaining why dont you spec gal.logi, equip 4 focused scanners and go hunt scouts? The gallente logi is the hard counter though nobody uses it.

1 scanner logi in a 6 man squad renders all scouts useless cause a scanned scout is a dead scout period.

Yes because i can just run another suit because i haven't spent all of my time on scouts. The only other things im specialized in are vehicles and they are ******. So tell me what you think is a good idea mister shitpost alt.

Yes because i can just run another suit because i haven't spent all of my time on scouts. The only other things im specialized in are vehicles and they are ******. So tell me what you think is a good idea mister shitpost alt.

A cloak gives you absolutely no advantage over players that are actually competent in DUST 514...

A Cloak in PC merely allows you to cover an open field without getting movement position broadcasted by the enemy team.

Otherwise? Eyes are OP for cloakers. A Player with the understanding of enemy position flow and where they come from will be able to see and counter a cloaker before they can even pull out a weapon to defend themselves.

Cloaking is a cool feature and offered in one of the most balanced forms in Video games today.. Planetside 2 you can fire sniper rifles while cloaked.. Crysis.. Lol? DUST you have no weapon out.. you have a delay to even bring your weapon out to defend yourself. And you can actually bee seen pretty easy even stationary... No game that has cloaking as a feature offers that many disadvantages.

Scouts are strong because of the way CCP trains the average player to play their game. CCP trains players to look for "Red". Look for the "Red" chevron.. Look for the "Red" Dot, look for the "Red" crosshairs. As soon as enemies don't appear "Red" the average DUST player is confused on what to even do. You can sit with a fully dampened Caldari proto scout(Because it's dark color) in the middle of the enemy team and because you have no UI marking on you, they will think your a friendly.

Most games have clear faction separation, So it's clear which side is the Counter-terrorist and what side is the terrorist.. For example. DUST is completely based off UI.

Scanning and dampening and the whole radar thing is a cool concept? but that is ass far as my praise goes.. It has actively made the game worse in most cases except for the people who understand the system intimately. When everyone could see everyone on the Radar like in Chromosome, DUST 514 was a giant chess match where everyone could see the pieces.. Flanking took skill and planning.