DUST Search - I feel sick to even use my scout

Monkey MAC wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

A cloak gives you absolutely no advantage over players that are actually competent in DUST 514...

A Cloak in PC merely allows you to cover an open field without getting movement position broadcasted by the enemy team.

Otherwise? Eyes are OP for cloakers. A Player with the understanding of enemy position flow and where they come from will be able to see and counter a cloaker before they can even pull out a weapon to defend themselves.

Cloaking is a cool feature and offered in one of the most balanced forms in Video games today.. Planetside 2 you can fire sniper rifles while cloaked.. Crysis.. Lol? DUST you have no weapon out.. you have a delay to even bring your weapon out to defend yourself. And you can actually bee seen pretty easy even stationary... No game that has cloaking as a feature offers that many disadvantages.

Scouts are strong because of the way CCP trains the average player to play their game. CCP trains players to look for "Red". Look for the "Red" chevron.. Look for the "Red" Dot, look for the "Red" crosshairs. As soon as enemies don't appear "Red" the average DUST player is confused on what to even do. You can sit with a fully dampened Caldari proto scout(Because it's dark color) in the middle of the enemy team and because you have no UI marking on you, they will think your a friendly.

Most games have clear faction separation, So it's clear which side is the Counter-terrorist and what side is the terrorist.. For example. DUST is completely based off UI.

Scanning and dampening and the whole radar thing is a cool concept? but that is ass far as my praise goes.. It has actively made the game worse in most cases except for the people who understand the system intimately. When everyone could see everyone on the Radar like in Chromosome, DUST 514 was a giant chess match where everyone could see the pieces.. Flanking took skill and planning.

You realise why it's called a cloak don't you? If you can see them, good for you others are not so fortunate to have such highly reactive sight.

In fact some peopls brains will block out cloaks without them even knowing.
Watch this video: Do exactly as it says don't try cheating just to make a point.

http://www.redbull.com/uk/en/motorsports/stories/1331666027483/red-bull-air-race-focus-test-2014-ascot

If you didn't successfully notice everything on your first try there is a high chance that cloaks will ellude your vision during a number of combat scenarios and standard gameplay in DUST


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Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2321	Posted - 2014.08.03 16:42:00 - [1] - Quote A cloak gives you absolutely no advantage over players that are actually competent in DUST 514... A Cloak in PC merely allows you to cover an open field without getting movement position broadcasted by the enemy team. Otherwise? Eyes are OP for cloakers. A Player with the understanding of enemy position flow and where they come from will be able to see and counter a cloaker before they can even pull out a weapon to defend themselves. Cloaking is a cool feature and offered in one of the most balanced forms in Video games today.. Planetside 2 you can fire sniper rifles while cloaked.. Crysis.. Lol? DUST you have no weapon out.. you have a delay to even bring your weapon out to defend yourself. And you can actually bee seen pretty easy even stationary... No game that has cloaking as a feature offers that many disadvantages. Scouts are strong because of the way CCP trains the average player to play their game. CCP trains players to look for "Red". Look for the "Red" chevron.. Look for the "Red" Dot, look for the "Red" crosshairs. As soon as enemies don't appear "Red" the average DUST player is confused on what to even do. You can sit with a fully dampened Caldari proto scout(Because it's dark color) in the middle of the enemy team and because you have no UI marking on you, they will think your a friendly. Most games have clear faction separation, So it's clear which side is the Counter-terrorist and what side is the terrorist.. For example. DUST is completely based off UI. Scanning and dampening and the whole radar thing is a cool concept? but that is ass far as my praise goes.. It has actively made the game worse in most cases except for the people who understand the system intimately. When everyone could see everyone on the Radar like in Chromosome, DUST 514 was a giant chess match where everyone could see the pieces.. Flanking took skill and planning.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2324	Posted - 2014.08.04 13:08:00 - [2] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Bethhy wrote: A cloak gives you absolutely no advantage over players that are actually competent in DUST 514... A Cloak in PC merely allows you to cover an open field without getting movement position broadcasted by the enemy team. Otherwise? Eyes are OP for cloakers. A Player with the understanding of enemy position flow and where they come from will be able to see and counter a cloaker before they can even pull out a weapon to defend themselves. Cloaking is a cool feature and offered in one of the most balanced forms in Video games today.. Planetside 2 you can fire sniper rifles while cloaked.. Crysis.. Lol? DUST you have no weapon out.. you have a delay to even bring your weapon out to defend yourself. And you can actually bee seen pretty easy even stationary... No game that has cloaking as a feature offers that many disadvantages. Scouts are strong because of the way CCP trains the average player to play their game. CCP trains players to look for "Red". Look for the "Red" chevron.. Look for the "Red" Dot, look for the "Red" crosshairs. As soon as enemies don't appear "Red" the average DUST player is confused on what to even do. You can sit with a fully dampened Caldari proto scout(Because it's dark color) in the middle of the enemy team and because you have no UI marking on you, they will think your a friendly. Most games have clear faction separation, So it's clear which side is the Counter-terrorist and what side is the terrorist.. For example. DUST is completely based off UI. Scanning and dampening and the whole radar thing is a cool concept? but that is ass far as my praise goes.. It has actively made the game worse in most cases except for the people who understand the system intimately. When everyone could see everyone on the Radar like in Chromosome, DUST 514 was a giant chess match where everyone could see the pieces.. Flanking took skill and planning. You realise why it's called a cloak don't you? If you can see them, good for you others are not so fortunate to have such highly reactive sight. In fact some peopls brains will block out cloaks without them even knowing. Watch this video: Do exactly as it says don't try cheating just to make a point. http://www.redbull.com/uk/en/motorsports/stories/1331666027483/red-bull-air-race-focus-test-2014-ascot If you didn't successfully notice everything on your first try there is a high chance that cloaks will ellude your vision during a number of combat scenarios and standard gameplay in DUST You serious monkey? Seems like your missing the point of your own link... 240mph is a completely different experience.. at 180mph lights start to blur at 200mph images start to blend... at 240mph lol... In a Video game where every frame is rendered perfect with no blur.... The comparison is what? Cloaks aren't supposed to be this big swollen bruised thumb sticking out that someone picking up the game for the first week will be able to spot with ease. It takes you actively trying to learn and better yourself in the task you are performing. Some people just don't want to learn or get better and come up with catch phrases to excuse their lack of forward progress. You seemed to have missed the big picture as I have to continue to explain to you Monkey. it is not the visual ques of a cloaker that should really alert you to their presence... By that time you have left it to long and are at a disadvantage. The entire way DUST has been operating with scanning and radar has made people complacent to even use their eyes and thought process: Where the Enemy position is.. where are their spawn points... Where are possible Uplinks.. Which is the best route to the next objective... Siutational awareness; the real meaning not the bullshit these forums make up about hiding behind a box. Shooters have always been about tracking the enemies movement, knowing where they come from and predicting where they are going. DUST hasn't needed any of those skills really until cloaks came. Now there is a general player base that doesn't understand the basics of Situational awareness in this title. This is how a cloak works in other games. And is an appropriate video link. DUST has an extremely mild neutral version.