Tie active scans to suit precision, and you have a deal.

Gal Logis might hate that.

You don't care about Cal scouts so why would you care unless your a Gal logi and feel like your toes are walked upon by Cal scouts .

If people are being hunted down by a slow running massively weighted down heavy then they are officially a scrub .

Man up and pull your G-string out of your butts and lay off the shared scanning .

It's the only thing that a Cal scout have .

I swear that you people get bored and come up with the dumbest things to b!tch about .

If they can see you and the notification telling you that you are being scanned pops up , then it's time to find the one scanning or change locations .

This is why active scanners are horrible now but you people want no way to be detected like that's going to make you any better because if your complaining about shared scan , chances are your just a scrub anyway .

No I don't run Cal scouts , have them but I play Min logi with a scanner , a scanner that's kind of like $h!t from the last time people whined about active scanners .

Get gud scrubs .

Actually, the only other suit I have other than my lvl 5 minja and a lvl 1 Minmando is a lvl 4 Cal scout. Every suit should have a role, and suits shouldn't be so OP that they completely negate any possible use of other suits, like a fully decked Cal scout does Amarr and Minamatar scouts.

Not to mention several highly competitive players in PC such as Moody, Ghost Kaiser, and Mr Musturd have all repeated the refrain that shared scanning on these Cal scouts make the suit worthless in on a competitive level.

I have no points in a Gal Logi, but given that their bonus is to active scanning, it gives them a role that should not be taken away by always active 360 shared scanning.

I want balance. I just find it ironic that you want a broken system that allows heavies with perfect sight, and a Cal scout to run around without worries of weakness for maxing precision and range because all his heavy squad mates have to do is protect him, then call others a scrub.

Only scrubs protect a crutch like shared scanning.

I don't care about the players that you name , all prototype players who complain about passive scanners .
I know that you had to throw their names in there like that's calls for merit as to your opinion .

It doesn't , if players that have several tens of millions plus the same in their SP banks , while most of the community can't even fathom what that feels like but yet they still complain , then there is something wrong with that picture .

But you would be quick to tell anyone else to " Adapt or die ."

Players as such are killing the game for those who are just trying to get a foothold in this game , kill the fun because you like to stay at the top and try to push any and everybody off of any footing .

Let's just get rid of Tacnet , E-war and scanners all together so that everybody can fight head's up and that would make it more interesting .

You people have you clique's and such so name dropping means nothing to me , even more so when your trying to be EVE famous .

You people are killing this game with your random calls for nerfs , changes and buffs .

It doesn't matter anyway because you can all have this crap that will be legion soon enough and you can all be dysfunctional together , trying to be EVE famous .

I can't wait til they shut these servers down .

Most of you are worst than Buzz Killington .

You make calls for changes and don't have the gumption to allow SP refunds because you sit on a pile of unallocated SP's but you call the rest of the community to grind away while you laugh your way to the next FOTM .

Who's the scrub protecting what crutch ? First you kill active scanning by ranting / complaining and now you would love to kill the Cal scout .

Sad , just sad .

Heavies are supposed to have a weakness of being blind.

99% of scouts that ever played have no problem with shared scans on a 300 eHP suit that does the samething active scans do on a 1000 eHPsuit.

All stats verified and true.

Why remove one but not the other? Is that the next suit cloaked shot gunners will cry about?

get some gun game and quit relying on cloak and flank crutch.

guess what removing passive scans will increase 100 fold... yes cloaked shotgun scouts, 16 vs 16 cloaked shotgun scouts.

99% of all scouts that ever played agree.

65 million sp

99% of all scouts that ever played agree...

99% of scouts that ever played have no problem with shared scans on a 300 eHP suit that does the samething active scans do on a 1000 eHPsuit.

All stats verified and true.

Why remove one but not the other? Is that the next suit cloaked shot gunners will cry about?

get some gun game and quit relying on cloak and flank crutch.

guess what removing passive scans will increase 100 fold... yes cloaked shotgun scouts, 16 vs 16 cloaked shotgun scouts.

99% of all scouts that ever played agree.

65 million sp

Translation- I want to go 52-0 in all matches with my Gallente Scout while packing on 500-700 EHP and not having to worry about dampening up.

Problem is a single gal. logi with flux scanners could scan the whole map (200m range) for the whole team. Sure it would require to fill 4 slots with active scanners but the advantage for the team would be undeniable.

Skill up precision then?

I have Lvl 5 in all the passive 'scout' skills - my heavy can passive scan other suits quite well thx

amarr's getting it now... do you know how many of you FOTM thumpers already have the amarr anyway... it's going to be a smooth transition on your side. the ISK rich side.

god i hope we dont have to deal with "rich players" in destiny... you guys are like the worst kind of internet trolls

looks to me like your just mad cause your poor, what u got in that little wallet 300k, 400k, lol

im tired of this OP UP bullshlt, nerf this nerf that, buff this buff that, its the same people every time, the same people who ruined the content development for dumbass number tweeks. just play the fkn game, if your not asking for a content expansion STFU

im tired of this OP UP bullshlt, nerf this nerf that, buff this buff that, its the same people every time, the same people who ruined the content development for dumbass number tweeks. just play the fkn game, if your not asking for a content expansion STFU

Seriously.

We should just settle for a broken game with no balance where only a few suits out of all possibilities are viable, and we should just completely ignore the variety of roles and gear. I mean, who cares that assaults as a whole have no role and are out performed by scouts what should be their wheelhouse. Nothing should be buffed or nerfed. It is perfect.

In most non-competitive settings, shared passives are perfectly fine. In a PC, however, where HMG heavies are the most dominant and competitive force, their one weakness can be completely eliminated by a super strong scanner scout.

If you want shared scans, use an active scanner.

i think the balance is fine for the most part, the whole problem was ccp was balancing things without all of the content to balance it against hotfix bravo prety much fixed almost all of the problems with the balance issue, and hotfix charlie looks like its catering to you buff nerf idiots rather than actually doing anything of benefit. ccp rattati needs to look like he is got something to do else he would be out of a job.

new content should always take priority over number tweeks, wtf happened to amar vehicles, minmatar vehicles, or thoose plasma cannon variants.
how about asking for some real content before whining to ccp to get something nerfed so you can use the next precived over powered fit untill you decide whatever can counter it is the next op thing and needs to be nerfed.

the guns are fine
the suits are fine
the vehicles are fine
the lack of promised content and developer support is not fine

ever since kain spero fail collapsed the blue donut i've been sitting on at least 10 million isk at a time. last i checked today i was at 20 mil.

uh let me explain why shared tacnet is a problem...

• heavies aren't supposed to see you
• logis without scanners arent supposed to see you
• brick tanked scouts without EWAR aren't supposed to see you after their caldari scout buddies track you down

it literally takes the guesswork out of COMMS WITH YOUR TEAM. INTEL. It makes INTEL EASY MODE.

******* HMGS ARENT SUPPOSED TO SEE EVERYONE ON THE MAP ESPECIALLY SCOUTS

WHY DO YOU THINK GAL LOGI'S FOCUSED SCANNER IS SO BAD? SCANNING OTHER SCOUTS IS OP AND BROKEN

WHY ARE EVEN GAL LOGI'S SCANS BAD? THEY'RE OP AND NEEDED TO BE NERFED

Scouts are running around with SCANNERINAS that everyone was complaining about active scanners doing 360 degree scans of EVERYTHING. It took the guess work out of the game, it took STRATEGY OUT OF THE GAME

Problem is a single gal. logi with flux scanners could scan the whole map (200m range) for the whole team. Sure it would require to fill 4 slots with active scanners but the advantage for the team would be undeniable.

All I see in this thread is the same broke scrub, who thinks that scout scans work while piloting a tank, moaning about a suit thats' sole purpose is counter cloaked flankers.

You have no idea how to play the game.

Get good.

Your whole arguement is that by losing suit diversity, particularly cal scouts with precision enhancers, we will gain suit diversity. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

By removing shared passive scans, you remove that niche playstyle. PAPERTHIN EWAR ( the scout doesn't kill you, his squadmate does )

You will only gain:
- more cloaked shotgunners flanking (and killing you )
-more heavies covering the back of the squad instead of just pushing forward (and killing you)
-more gal logis with 4 scanners spamming scans the entire match. (scanning and then killing you with 1000ehp)

this does not increase diversity on the battlefield, you will still die like a scrub.

Yes if you really think 99% of scouts ever agreed on anything then there are a lot of 'fuzzy statistics' thrown around in this thread you probably believe too...


Now just ask yourself.....

Do you want shared tacnet for passive scans removed so that you can cloak and flank:

ALL HEAVIES
ALL COMMANDOS
ALL ASSAULT SUITS
ALL LOGI SUITS WITHOUT 4 SCANNERS EQUIPPED
ALL SCOUT SUITS WITHOUT PRECISION ENHANCERS

?????

If that's why you want shared tacnet removed then please stop playing this game as you are garbage. YOU WANT THERE TO BE NO COUNTER FOR YOUR SUIT AND YOU WANT US TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

GUESS WHAT... CLOAKED SCOUTS FLANKING WITH SHOTGUNS ARE NOT THE COUNTER FOR A SQUAD WITH AN EFFECTIVE SCAN BONUS.... IF YOU CANT COUNTER THIS SQUAD WITH ONE PLAYER HAVING ONLY 300ehp PLEASE STOP PLAYING THIS GAME. PICK UP A RIFLE OR HMG AND GET SOME GUN GAME OR GTFO.

Or continue posting about how broke you are and about how removing roles actually increases roles or how kain spero has oppressed you and you require immediate reparations. I would rather see cloaks disappear with the amount of whiny indignant children using them as a crutch and QQing at their ONLY COUNTER.

Stay broke.