Of course you old DNS homos would feel this way. You guys enjoyed sitting in your blue donut, jerking each other off and collecting tons of passive ISK.

Now that you actually have to fight PC to get paid you think there is no point to it when in fact locking your districts, doing nothing and getting paid was extremely stupid and much more pointless.

i rarely play PC unless cap aqc or war ravens needs a hand from time to time. Tho there is really no point in holding land, other people say to me that it is to look cool but seriously who cares now at days.

Is the general consensus still that the removal of "passive" ISK generation in PC was ridiculous and needs to be reversed?

And that the only ones actually in favor of the changes are Kane (because reasons) and people who don't play PC but are living under the delusion that it helps us to stomp them in pubs when we get bored? (As if we weren't going to stomp them anyway...)


Sometimes, opinions change over time. I haven't been playing this game very often since fanfest happened, so I thought I would check in to see if anyone actually prefers these changes.

i think the passive isk was just a way to make people fight harder and the battles more entertaing cause there was something on the line.

That's where a lot of people are wrong. If you hold a district, you can manage to gain SOME money from it (and I don't talk about farm).
The thing is, if you hold a district, you got clones, with your clones, and you can transfer them to attack others districts at a lesser cost and with more clones than with the pack (which is very expensive and not really efficient). Of course, there is the problem that you can loose your district if you take too much clones, but that's part of the game.

If you win, all your players get ISK. Depending on the the fight, your players can gain more money than they have spent and under those circumstances, are able to give the difference to the corporation.



As for passive ISK, of course, it would be nice to have them back. But there is a certain corporation with 63 district that really doesn't deserve them. So, if passive ISK is to return, it would be interesting to have system that lower the number of ISK you gain per district, in function of the number of districts (to make sure some corps won't be allowed to win a billion per day).

As an exemple, let's say that there is 3 corporations :
Corporation_A (adept) with 5 districts
Corporation _B (beginners) with 1 district
Corporation_C (clowns) with 30 districts

And keep in mind that each time a corporation hold 3 district, it have a penality of 10% ; penality which upgrade with your numbers of districts, so a corporation with 6 districts will have a 20% penality. The maximum penality reachable in this theory is 90% (27 districts and beyond)


- Corporation_B would receive the default passive ISK of let's say 5 million per day with no penality.

- Corporation_A with it's 5 district will have a 10% percent of penality, so it will receive 22,5 million instead of 25 million

- Corporation_C with 30 districts will have a penality of 90%, so this corporation will loose 135 million of it's 150 million. It make only a bonus of 15 million per day. Which would give Nyain San in it's current state to have an incomeof 30.166.666 ISK a day.

In that way, it SHOULD (but as nothing ever go as planned on this game I can't be sure) allow more corporations to join PC as beyond a certain number of districts you will gain less money than if you had fewer districts. So the best thing would be to give them away or most likely to sell them.

Plus, it would give a real sense to the alliances and diplomacy and give a chance to other corporations to enter PC. But that is another story.

I like that nyain spam can't farm it anymore. I've made way more isk the way it is now!

Of course you old DNS homos would feel this way. You guys enjoyed sitting in your blue donut, jerking each other off and collecting tons of passive ISK.

Now that you actually have to fight PC to get paid you think there is no point to it when in fact locking your districts, doing nothing and getting paid was extremely stupid and much more pointless.

The end of passive isk doesnt hurt us as much as other corps, we have had many district for many months and during that time Nyain was able to gain an good amount of isk for it, So to say we can't farm anymore is just funny because the end to passive isk hurts other corporations more then it hurts us

Why are you still playing this trash game and not destiny

Funny part is I remember some of these very names under your post himiko, who were in favor of passive isk being removed when it was first put in place. Removal of Passive isk destroyed what was left of the game in terms of land value and finding a sense of reward. It was a stupid move, now all thats left is a pure stagnant lobby shooter game.

Is the general consensus still that the removal of "passive" ISK generation in PC was ridiculous and needs to be reversed?

And that the only ones actually in favor of the changes are Kane (because reasons) and people who don't play PC but are living under the delusion that it helps us to stomp them in pubs when we get bored? (As if we weren't going to stomp them anyway...)


Sometimes, opinions change over time. I haven't been playing this game very often since fanfest happened, so I thought I would check in to see if anyone actually prefers these changes.

What surprises me the most is that there are still people who want to hold districts, but don't want to fight their own battles. Then why even hold districts?

I'm actually enjoying the hell out of getting paid 3-5million directly for PC, instead of having to wait for my corp ssi check to come in. I work, I earn, I get paid. And the districts generate means independently (clones to be moved) to further grow territoral holdings if that's what is decided. Is there room to expand this, EVEside involvment-wise or ? Sure. But is it a bad thing in and of itself? Not IMO.

Since there is no open market, selling and buying clones at a fixed price doesn't drive war the way it should. If nobody is fighting then clones should be abundant and their prices reduced, thus making conflict less expensive, while on the other hand if large scale war breaks out the price is increased, meaning generation is far more profitable and clone packs far less cost effective. Ideally when a blue donut forms passive ISK approaches 0 as a lack of conflict lowers clone demand. At the same time this would make clone packs much cheaper giving other parties outside the donut a way to keep conflict going.

Killing passive ISK was the best change ever made to the game. The only problem was it wasn't done a year earlier.