DUST Search - destiny is proof of ccp ineptitude

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Seymour KrelbornX wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Dunno most folks I been talking about feel its not going to beat its own hype which it has set the hype bar pretty high.

This is not the case as it was with Halo; a game that smashed it own hype into pieces.

I would also like to say it is rather unfair to compare a lamborghini to the john deer tractor.

no game, or movie has ever lived up to the hype... ever... if people these days still believe in hype, and then allow themselves to be disappointed by reality, I feel sorry for them...

Halo (the first one) did though back in those days; you had to consider the shiniest golden emblem of FPS on consoles was golden eye... which is not saying much considering the control(ers) where amongst the worst ever designed. Hell even Medal of Honor was terrible to control. Back then most folks doubted Halo's potential and had speculation about it. Halo was for most part something that was not hyped much at all. People still hated microsoft as it recently came fresh out of lawsuits about IE and office; apple was beginning to trend up and the PS2 was the console to have because PS1's popularity.

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Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 654	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:46:00 - [1] - Quote ok, so destiny is just a beta right now, and there are a lot of restrictions on what we can do, like level capped at 8/20 can only go to a few locations, only 2 pvp maps and so on.... but it is already more in depth, larger and runs smoother than dust ever has. this BS that ccp needs to go to PC to do what they want to do has been proven wrong by what bungie has been able to do just with a beta the destiny beta is a more solid game as a BETA than dust is as a release or beta or whatever this is. if only ccp upper management would have hired talented developers of bungie quality from the jump we would have had the most amazing game ever in dust 514. sadly they pinched too many pennies and hired too many 2nd rate developers, and this is evident by the scope of destiny and how smooth it runs on the ps3. shame on you ccp upper management for squandering your opportunity of creating an innovative game on the ps3 that would have had a tremendously large loyal following... now bungie has made a new home for your potential audience. but all is not lost... legion is still a possibility and if you higher the right people and port it to ps4 you may yet garner the audience you have lost to the awesomeness of destiny...(and its just a beta!)
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5007	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:52:00 - [2] - Quote Don't forget Destiny is one of (maybe the?) most expensive games ever made. They had money to throw around on bells & whistles. All in all, the two are chalk and cheese. Destiny isn't trying to do anything Dust tried to do. That said: Dust failed at everything it tried to do. So everybody come play Destiny RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 4650	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:53:00 - [3] - Quote ugh i don't even have time for this... Earn 500Mil ISK(Updated) Gentlemen's Club "No poors allowed" Chat Channel: Vik PC
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 655	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:55:00 - [4] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Don't forget Destiny is one of (maybe the?) most expensive games ever made. They had money to throw around on bells & whistles. All in all, the two are chalk and cheese. Destiny isn't trying to do anything Dust tried to do. That said: Dust failed at everything it tried to do. So everybody come play Destiny I agree that dust was trying to do something totally different than destiny in may ways... but there are many similar elemnts such as being an mmofps, deep character customization, 10 year plan (lol) my point is the things that are similar that dust got wrong destiny got right. and this BS about needing to go to PC cause ps3 wasn't powerful enough has been proven wrong.
Nrabatar Zorig Nos Nothi 176	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:56:00 - [5] - Quote Comparing apples and oranges for the umpeenth time, nothing to see here. That said, Destiny "beta" is a glorified demo at best. Shaman Zorig of the Vherokior Tribe
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 655	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:57:00 - [6] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: ugh i don't even have time for this... you had enough time to post you don't have time.... interesting...
Blooticus DUST University Ivy League 53	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:58:00 - [7] - Quote Dont forget Destiny's version of a beta is just a server stress test and a cash grab for pre-orders. But you are still correct in telling CCP to improve their game development.
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10710	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:58:00 - [8] - Quote I suggest anyone under the age of 18 to exit this thread, as there will be a *lot* of gargling on CCP's [expltive]. And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived... -HAND
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 655	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:02:00 - [9] - Quote Nrabatar Zorig wrote: Comparing apples and oranges for the umpeenth time, nothing to see here. That said, Destiny "beta" is a glorified demo at best. I'm not saying for a second that destiny is what dust could have been.... it isn't even close.... but neither is dust. my point is that destiny already has more content and depth (in game not meta) than dust ever had... as a beta!.... and that's just sad and there's no excuse. destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15969	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:09:00 - [10] - Quote Dunno most folks I been talking about feel its not going to beat its own hype which it has set the hype bar pretty high. This is not the case as it was with Halo; a game that smashed it own hype into pieces. I would also like to say it is rather unfair to compare a lamborghini to the john deer tractor. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked

Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 659	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:13:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno most folks I been talking about feel its not going to beat its own hype which it has set the hype bar pretty high. This is not the case as it was with Halo; a game that smashed it own hype into pieces. I would also like to say it is rather unfair to compare a lamborghini to the john deer tractor. no game, or movie has ever lived up to the hype... ever... if people these days still believe in hype, and then allow themselves to be disappointed by reality, I feel sorry for them... destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 967	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:16:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno most folks I been talking about feel its not going to beat its own hype which it has set the hype bar pretty high. This is not the case as it was with Halo; a game that smashed it own hype into pieces. I would also like to say it is rather unfair to compare a lamborghini to the john deer tractor. Agreed, however, that is a symptom of today's gaming age. With Social Media, hype is generated quicker than it was in the first Halo's day. Almost no game is capable of beating its own hype anymore. I will still be getting Destiny though. If it sux, I can always trade the damn thing in.
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 569	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:17:00 - [13] - Quote Nrabatar Zorig wrote: Comparing apples and oranges for the umpeenth time, nothing to see here. That said, Destiny "beta" is a glorified demo at best. In that case, Dust's fully released version sucks compared to a demo. If you were having a conversation with a dev from Bungie and a dev from Dust (I'll give you the benefit of having the dev team prior to Uprising) and they both said, "We will fix this. You haven't seen our trump card yet." who would you believe? Who's gonna get your money? The guy with 2 years of beta and a handful of excuses? Or, the guy with a proven record of having responsible Devs fix an aspect of the game overnight? PSN: The_Rynoceros Console Master Race "It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15969	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:25:00 - [14] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno most folks I been talking about feel its not going to beat its own hype which it has set the hype bar pretty high. This is not the case as it was with Halo; a game that smashed it own hype into pieces. I would also like to say it is rather unfair to compare a lamborghini to the john deer tractor. no game, or movie has ever lived up to the hype... ever... if people these days still believe in hype, and then allow themselves to be disappointed by reality, I feel sorry for them... Halo (the first one) did though back in those days; you had to consider the shiniest golden emblem of FPS on consoles was golden eye... which is not saying much considering the control(ers) where amongst the worst ever designed. Hell even Medal of Honor was terrible to control. Back then most folks doubted Halo's potential and had speculation about it. Halo was for most part something that was not hyped much at all. People still hated microsoft as it recently came fresh out of lawsuits about IE and office; apple was beginning to trend up and the PS2 was the console to have because PS1's popularity. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
captainIreland Mcalpines Fusiliers Covert Intervention 21	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:25:00 - [15] - Quote Its because destiny has pve. There nothing like squading up with your mates and taking on the computer and winning then dancing at the end I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.
Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 909	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:29:00 - [16] - Quote captainIreland wrote: Its because destiny has pve. There nothing like squading up with your mates and taking on the computer and winning then dancing at the end Funny, cause that was something DUST was supposed to have....
MINA Longstrike 1035	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:35:00 - [17] - Quote They're two different games with entirely different focuses and hilariously different budgets. Why are you trying to compare them? It's like comparing Farmville to anno 2070. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 660	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:37:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dunno most folks I been talking about feel its not going to beat its own hype which it has set the hype bar pretty high. This is not the case as it was with Halo; a game that smashed it own hype into pieces. I would also like to say it is rather unfair to compare a lamborghini to the john deer tractor. no game, or movie has ever lived up to the hype... ever... if people these days still believe in hype, and then allow themselves to be disappointed by reality, I feel sorry for them... Halo (the first one) did though back in those days; you had to consider the shiniest golden emblem of FPS on consoles was golden eye... which is not saying much considering the control(ers) where amongst the worst ever designed. Hell even Medal of Honor was terrible to control. Back then most folks doubted Halo's potential and had speculation about it. Halo was for most part something that was not hyped much at all. People still hated microsoft as it recently came fresh out of lawsuits about IE and office; apple was beginning to trend up and the PS2 was the console to have because PS1's popularity. look halo may as well be the game equivalent of the wizard of oz and the hype that surrounded it with "color" in a movie in its day... halo was what 20 years ago? name a game since then... you cant... and that's my point... hype isn't something to buy into this day and age. if you do youre a fool. destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2838	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:42:00 - [19] - Quote Let's not forget which company did the halo series and which has more experience and disposable money in the fps department... Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 660	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:47:00 - [20] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: They're two different games with entirely different focuses and hilariously different budgets. Why are you trying to compare them? I'm not comparing them... I'm calling out ccp's bs about how the ps3 doesn't have enough power... destiny proves it does... maybe the graphics wont be as pretty as a PC, but there is no excuse for the lack of content and the rough mechanics of dust... it is ccp's fault that dust is so bad... not the ps3... and this means they probably wont succeed with the PC either...yes budget may have a lot to do with it... but that's foreboding as well if ccp doesn't have the money to make what can only be an expensive endeavor... does anyone think that dust/legion can be what ccp dream without spending a ton of money? if you do than it really is a dream.... destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust

Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 661	Posted - 2014.07.19 20:51:00 - [21] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Let's not forget which company did the halo series and which has more experience and disposable money in the fps department... again I will say... these projects cost tons of money... do you really think ccp can accomplish the dream without a ton of cash? so this is a false argument to compare budgets.... these things cost millions period...and ccp has spent quite a bit and still don't have a product worthy of that money spent... bungie from the jump with halo did...and if halo had failed would you have made the same excuse for them? just not enough money?.... lol destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust
R-E-D-R-U-M WRONG-TURN 7	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:07:00 - [22] - Quote Just had an EPIC battle in Destiny. Me against 500 enemies. They were coming out of every corner like roaches. I fked those stupid AI's up. Ran out of ammo and had to retreat :( Where's a logi when you need one?
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2839	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:09:00 - [23] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Let's not forget which company did the halo series and which has more experience and disposable money in the fps department... again I will say... these projects cost tons of money... do you really think ccp can accomplish the dream without a ton of cash? so this is a false argument to compare budgets.... these things cost millions period...and ccp has spent quite a bit and still don't have a product worthy of that money spent... bungie from the jump with halo did...and if halo had failed would you have made the same excuse for them? just not enough money?.... lol Excuse? So experience and money not to mention being a top selling game company has nothing to do with it? I'm not making excuses just a clear observation any person can make. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 661	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:14:00 - [24] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Let's not forget which company did the halo series and which has more experience and disposable money in the fps department... again I will say... these projects cost tons of money... do you really think ccp can accomplish the dream without a ton of cash? so this is a false argument to compare budgets.... these things cost millions period...and ccp has spent quite a bit and still don't have a product worthy of that money spent... bungie from the jump with halo did...and if halo had failed would you have made the same excuse for them? just not enough money?.... lol Excuse? So experience and money not to mention being a top selling game company has nothing to do with it? I'm not making excuses just a clear observation any person can make. but how many companies without experience have made great games? and ccp has had over a decade of experience making games...ok a game... and lets be real here... ccp is a company, not a person... they hire people....all they had to do was hire the right people and let them do their thing... they didn't.... also each dev in ccp brings with them the experience of their previous dev jobs... are you saying that everyone in ccp never did anything else with their careers? so this is kind of a false argument as well.... true that CCP doesn't have a lot of experience with consoles and fps etc... but they only had to hire people that do... destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust
hfderrtgvcd Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 282	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:17:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: I suggest anyone under the age of 18 to exit this thread, as there will be a *lot* of gargling on Bungie's [expltive]. FTFY
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 586	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:20:00 - [26] - Quote There is nothing mmo about these fps, either of them. Destiny is significantly less lobby than dust thank God but mmo it is not. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 661	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:22:00 - [27] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: There is nothing mmo about these fps, either of them. Destiny is significantly less lobby than dust thank God but mmo it is not. I disagree there.... it is very mmo... its massive, there is multiplayer and it is online.... you collect stuff you gain levels there is a story, theres pvp, there is customization.... so how isn't it an mmo? destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust
MINA Longstrike 1035	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:25:00 - [28] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Reign Omega wrote: There is nothing mmo about these fps, either of them. Destiny is significantly less lobby than dust thank God but mmo it is not. I disagree there.... it is very mmo... its massive, there is multiplayer and it is online.... you collect stuff you gain levels there is a story, theres pvp, there is customization.... so how isn't it an mmo? MMO = "massively multiplayer online" 4 people in a room together isn't 'massively multiplayer' it's just 'multiplayer online'. Pretty soon you'll be making hilariously misconstrued arguments that destiny / dust are 'rpgs' because you 'play a role, in a game, making it a role-playing game'. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 661	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:28:00 - [29] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Reign Omega wrote: There is nothing mmo about these fps, either of them. Destiny is significantly less lobby than dust thank God but mmo it is not. I disagree there.... it is very mmo... its massive, there is multiplayer and it is online.... you collect stuff you gain levels there is a story, theres pvp, there is customization.... so how isn't it an mmo? MMO = "massively multiplayer online" 4 people in a room together isn't 'massively multiplayer' it's just 'multiplayer online'. have you played destiny? in the city you see many more than four, raids take 6 people and in the open world there are tons of people running around.... oh and unlike dust, you are NEVER in a room destiny isn't close to what dust could have been...neither is dust destiny>dust
MINA Longstrike 1038	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:30:00 - [30] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Reign Omega wrote: There is nothing mmo about these fps, either of them. Destiny is significantly less lobby than dust thank God but mmo it is not. I disagree there.... it is very mmo... its massive, there is multiplayer and it is online.... you collect stuff you gain levels there is a story, theres pvp, there is customization.... so how isn't it an mmo? MMO = "massively multiplayer online" 4 people in a room together isn't 'massively multiplayer' it's just 'multiplayer online'. have you played destiny? in the city you see many more than four, raids take 6 people and in the open world there are tons of people running around.... oh and unlike dust, you are NEVER in a room Oh wow! six people outside the lobby area!! that's totally massive compared to games like world of warcraft where 500 people can all be fighting in the same area. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.



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