Why do you need encouragement to be a slayer? What is with the gamer population and incentives? Why do you need one to perform a necessary task?

Okay instead of arguing the point of whether assaults have a role or not, what kind of role would you offer the Assault player?

We already have a recon guy. A support guy. A point defender. What is left? What role can the assault play? Answer me that instead of arguing a useless point that assaults don't have any role on the battlefield. I'm up for a discussion and production. Not tireless back and forth stuck in one point. Let's brain storm. What other role can the assault player fill that the other classes are not specialized in?

Not that I totally disagree with the post but this topic comes up so often that I get the impression most people think it should be the best class in the game when actually its what it should be, bland and point and shoot.

To me it's the suit that DEPENDS on a good squad , a good LOGI , a scout to flush out enemy's and distracts and injures for you to take kills, yet it isn't as self supporting as a LOGI or scout because of the ability to carry mass equipment or hide or have major damage of a heavy, it is simply a point and shoot class, those that become extremely good players gravitate an graduate to more self sufficient classes that allow them to create a more team played battlefield than just point and shoot.

what makes a slayer and tell me why only the assault class is the slayer. after all a lot of you keep saying the assault role is to slay.

slaying to me is just plain old killing people.

now tell me which other class does not kill.

no one is saying they shouldn't be good killers or better than any other class at doing it. what i am suggesting is that any simple buffs to "slaying" isn't enough. ask yourself why do other classes have this excellent ability to adapt to the battlefield while the assault cannot. its that customisation their role allows them. for a logi its to not fit good equipment freeing up pq/cpu more than compensating for any dps/ehp buff an assault gets. the same goes for scouts who lose the cloak or 2nd piece of equipment. a heavy can lose the heavy weapon. what can the assault lose to increase its performance.

the problem is if you ignore your role as any other class you can become a better killer but the assault cannot become a better killer because it is already one.

even if they were given the role of "combat specialist" (RE,AV,Scans) for example with slots and stats to put them in that role they would have the free pg/cpu should they choose to ignore it to compensate for any other classes ability to out stat them.

this would easily balance them out with the likes of logis and scouts. fill your role and you are the average soldier on the field, ignore it and you are a killer. this would allow assaults the same choices every other class is afforded. fit for role or fit to kill.

Ok so you don't like the idea of assaults having a role. don't fit for it then. fit those better plates and damage mods. insisting on buffed stats to make up for the lack of customisation is just a bad idea. it has been done time and time again virtually every patch and we still have the same issues every time. while every other role has the ability to adapt the assault doesnt

Wow you are a slow individual. Like I asked that Summ Dude person, just how long you've been playing FPS games? The assault class in EVERY FPS title has been about slaying and/or suppression. The assault is the average soldier. Combat specialist is equal to assault. Smh

An ideal squad compliments each other. Sentinels take point. Logis keep squad alive. Scout recons and relays intel. Sniper also recons but most importantly its team demoralizes while assault mops clones in between all roles working congruent with each other.

What makes the shared opinion worth it is the simple fact it does not over complicate the situation. You could do progress of elimination and come up with the same results. Or you can look to their title as a clear cut, one word explanation. Or you can play with assaults who slay at killing.

The problem is not the assault. Its people uses classes intended for one role and doing another. Theres people using scouts to slay

Granted the game is post op so any ideas beyond tweaking little values is moot but I'll throw my two cents in for the hell of it.

Jump Jets!

Yep just having something where if you held down the jump button you could boost into the sky for a limited amount of time. Maybe even have modules that can increase the boost duration. Just outfit all assault variant suits with this item and make it exclusive to assault suits. That way the suit would be excellent at "Assaulting" objectives while the heavies would stick to point defense, scouts Ewar, and logistics supporting the others.

Of course this idea isn't novel in fact its standard in sci fi fps but hey so is not rewarding kills and deaths to people who have been revived on the field... CCP has made it pretty evident that they designed this game from scratch and ignored many a good idea from the decades of sci fi fps shooters. It was a pet project to see if they could make a fps that would be good enough for an Eve tie-in which is what they plan to do with Legion.

Don't hold your breath though folks, CCP has worked on many games at this point and have only NOT scrapped Eve. So good luck to those holding out on legion.

except the assault doesn't compliment the squad. it only has 1 purpose while any other class offers up more option

you keep going back to this misguided opinion that assault are doing something different than the other classes but they are not. extra damage and ehp doesn't make them different it just makes every other class forgo their role to compete. why spec into a suit with 1 use when i could fit one with 10 and still be able to kill. you could say thats the issue but thats what happens when 1 or 2 suits have all the roles

a lot of you think the issue is the other suits but refuse to see what's right in front of you. how many assault tweaks has there been now all along the same lines and still no stand out working assault. you think 1,2, even 100 more changes in the suit stat's is going to change anything. it wont. it hasn't any other time its been done.

In your squad, the assault doesn't compliment? And it has been said many times over in this thread. That Assaults don't offer "glitz and glamour" that other roles have, this is why you keep repeating "it only has one purpose while any other class offers up more option"

So you acknowledge their role, but say its not attractive. Just as someone has already said in this thread. Since only they slay and suppress and don't have various options as opposed to a scout or logi, you figure them to not have a role.

In the squads I work with, assaults compliments. All roles work in congruency when people are not being oblivious to the capabilities of a assault. There are maps that are assault centric and when that comes around, I change to adjust. The sentinel in my squad takes point, the logi keeps him going while supplying me, the scout disrupts and I mop those who try to run from my heavy and assault players with extreme prejudice on ground.

What you want is better bonuses for the motivation to realize the role of the Assault. That's what you're arguing about. Not about its role. Bonuses are not roles, they are bonuses.

And alot of us KNOW its because of the other suits because why in the hell people are complaining about scouts being frontline? About the brick tanking? What about slayer logis that people complained about? It's very obvious that people take other classes and use them in place of assault. Assault is one dimensional, while other roles provides two to three.

You're not listening to the truth of the matter. You don't even understand that you want a better bonus for assaults instead of clearer role defined. That has been repeated in several of your posts but even you, the owner of your own thoughts, don't understand that.

So this discussion is done in vain with you. You will just never get it. You want incentives to play assault. Just say so instead of rambling about nonsensical points of assaults not having a role.

they have no role on the battlefield.

buff/nerfing ehp,damage,slots,pg and cpu etc will never change anything and will just start the cycle of broken classes all over again.

damage is not a role, ehp is not a role. the 2 combined do not make a role. simply giving them these stats does nothing.

you can nerf classes that outshine them forever and it will never fix the issue because they have no purpose

they have no role on the battlefield.

buff/nerfing ehp,damage,slots,pg and cpu etc will never change anything and will just start the cycle of broken classes all over again.

damage is not a role, ehp is not a role. the 2 combined do not make a role. simply giving them these stats does nothing.

you can nerf classes that outshine them forever and it will never fix the issue because they have no purpose