Ohk for a weapon longer than 100m range is just broken, why do you think everyone hates thales?
And if shotguns weren't bad enough...

I'm tired of headshots with the Charge Sniper Rifle not killing people. Like for real. Dude gets within range on me, and I send a round into the center of his skull at literally 9,000,000 mph (14,484,096 km/h).
And the game is audacious enough to still leave him with 30% of his armor! Nlgga I just removed 30% your brain! I hit the goddamn pineal gland! Fk you!

I'd agree with you if everyone wasn't against you.

Thanks a lot, Pontius Pilate... lol

But "everyone" broke the game.
Maybe it's just how I presented it.

The 'vocal one' in particular isn't offering remedies. Just expressing his hatred of dying to some noob 1 shotting nomatter what and further than 150m

Also, no frame exept a heavy can take a charged headshot, so yea.

You know what, im tired of somenody justifying ohk's so....
http://i.imgur.com/UekmzAj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LXiOUEi.gif

Jathniel, you can complain that people are mentioning the redline all you like but it is still relevant. If you do a direct buff to snipers, you also directly buff redline sniping.
If snipers could be forced out of the redline I'd quite happily support some buffing. Nothing like some of the absurd buffs I've seen suggested in the past (820 damage per shot from a charge sniper rifle is not reasonable) but some moderate buffs would be worth considering.

I'm tired of headshots with the Charge Sniper Rifle not killing people. Like for real. Dude gets within range on me, and I send a round into the center of his skull at literally 9,000,000 mph (14,484,096 km/h).
And the game is audacious enough to still leave him with 30% of his armor! Nlgga I just removed 30% your brain! I hit the goddamn pineal gland! Fk you!

Cere harkens.
Sniping is one of the smallest if not the smallest sp sink as well.

Cere harkens.
Sniping is one of the smallest if not the smallest sp sink as well.

No dude. I am a sniper, prof 4.

I agree with none of this, why should you OHK every suit in the game from 1-599 meters? I mean seriously, snipers like Pelognis and Nod Keras have been sniping for a long time, and they still are beastly.

This game is all about risk for reward. Sitting 300 meters in the redline is not risky, so is not very rewarding.

Okay, you want concrete.
I propose the following changes to all Tactical Sniper Rifle variants:
- Increase clip size to 5 rounds.
- Reduce optimal range to 175m.
- Reduce maximum effective range to 225m.
- Reduce scope zoom by 40%.
- Eliminate "sniper sway" in ADS completely to enable fast tactical firing on the move.
- Increase recoil in ADS by 70% to control follow-up shot spam, and prevent quick-scoping abuse at closer ranges.
- Eliminate 70% recoil penalty if the tactical sniper rifle is used while crouched.
- Reduce damage by 30%.
- Reduce reload time by 20%.

I propose the following changes to Sniper Rifle variants:
- Reduce clip size to 3 rounds. (Militia reduced to 1 round)
- Reduce optimal range to 300m.
- Reduce maximum effective range to 420m.
- Eliminate the "sniper sway" delay if the sniper moves in ADS while crouched.
- Reduce recoil by 50%.
- Increase damage by 50%
- Increase headshot damage bonus to 4x.
- Add variable scope zoom.

I propose the following changes to the Charge Sniper Rifle:
- Reduce clip size to 1 round.
- Reduce optimal range to 275m.
- Reduce maximum effective range to 375m.
- Increase damage by 100%.
- Increase headshot damage bonus to 10x.
- Increase reload time by 50%
- Reduce maximum carried ammo by 40%
- Add variable scope zoom.
- Add fat, glowing blue streak to projectile path that slowly fades.
- Add distinctive resonating noise.
- Do not permit firing unless fully charged.

How's that for concrete?
Range nerfs bring the snipers closer, but not too close.

The tactical sniper becomes a carefully balanced light sniper, that dedicated snipers can use on slightly closer-in maps, but this advantage is carefully mitigated by a recoil and damage nerf to prevent it from dominating RR, TAR, and SCR in their optimal ranges.

The regular sniper gets a universally powerful 1-2 punch that will put down most (including proto) with its damage and recoil mitigation buffs, but this new power is carefully mitigated by a smaller 3 round clip. To offset this slightly, a variable zoom scope is introduced, and the regular sniper rifle user is now permitted to move while crouched without penalty in ADS.

The charge sniper becomes the finger of God (no disrespect intended to Amarr RPers out there), but is resisted by a Devilishly small 1 round clip, increased reload time, a spectacular and cool looking streak (and sound) that reveals their position, and only 15 rounds max ammo (without ammo buffs).

EDIT: No hip fire reticule is implemented.

That is the purpose of a headshot, with a sniper rifle. That is the purpose of every gun in this game! To take more HP then your target possesses.

"Yo passion n' antipathy betrays yo fearrr!!"

My fellow snipers, answer the call of your ally! Put out the numbers. Put out the proposals! Do not let the vocal minority haters win again.

A small and dedicated group of you, struggle to play with your weapon of choice. CCP sees your population, but they read your dedication to your weapon incorrectly. They believe you use it because "it's in a good spot". What they do not see, is your sorrow when you are passed over for PC... or when you have to lay your sniper rifle down and use some OTHER weapon because it's more competitive.
Were not Nova Knives in the same position once....?

How about abandoning sniper rifles completely my brethren...? So that CCP understands that the weapon is NOT where you would like it to be?
Answer the callllllll of your ally!

No dude. I am a sniper, prof 4.

I agree with none of this, why should you OHK every suit in the game from 1-599 meters? I mean seriously, snipers like Pelognis and Nod Keras have been sniping for a long time, and they still are beastly.

This game is all about risk for reward. Sitting 300 meters in the redline is not risky, so is not very rewarding.

Okay, you want concrete.
I propose the following changes to all Tactical Sniper Rifle variants:
- Increase clip size to 5 rounds.
- Reduce optimal range to 175m.
- Reduce maximum effective range to 225m.
- Reduce scope zoom by 40%.
- Eliminate "sniper sway" in ADS completely to enable fast tactical firing on the move.
- Increase recoil in ADS by 70% to control follow-up shot spam, and prevent quick-scoping abuse at closer ranges.
- Eliminate 70% recoil penalty if the tactical sniper rifle is used while crouched.
- Reduce damage by 30%.
- Reduce reload time by 20%.

I propose the following changes to Sniper Rifle variants:
- Reduce clip size to 3 rounds. (Militia reduced to 1 round)
- Reduce optimal range to 300m.
- Reduce maximum effective range to 420m.
- Eliminate the "sniper sway" delay if the sniper moves in ADS while crouched.
- Reduce recoil by 50%.
- Increase damage by 50%
- Increase headshot damage bonus to 4x.
- Add variable scope zoom.

I propose the following changes to the Charge Sniper Rifle:
- Reduce clip size to 1 round.
- Reduce optimal range to 275m.
- Reduce maximum effective range to 375m.
- Increase damage by 100%.
- Increase headshot damage bonus to 10x.
- Increase reload time by 50%
- Reduce maximum carried ammo by 40%
- Add variable scope zoom.
- Add fat, glowing blue streak to projectile path that slowly fades.
- Add distinctive resonating noise.
- Do not permit firing unless fully charged.

How's that for concrete?
Range nerfs bring the snipers closer, but not too close.

The tactical sniper becomes a carefully balanced light sniper, that dedicated snipers can use on slightly closer-in maps, but this advantage is carefully mitigated by a recoil and damage nerf to prevent it from dominating RR, TAR, and SCR in their optimal ranges.

The regular sniper gets a universally powerful 1-2 punch that will put down most (including proto) with its damage and recoil mitigation buffs, but this new power is carefully mitigated by a smaller 3 round clip. To offset this slightly, a variable zoom scope is introduced, and the regular sniper rifle user is now permitted to move while crouched without penalty in ADS.

The charge sniper becomes the finger of God (no disrespect intended to Amarr RPers out there), but is resisted by a Devilishly small 1 round clip, increased reload time, a spectacular and cool looking streak (and sound) that reveals their position, and only 15 rounds max ammo (without ammo buffs).

EDIT: No hip fire reticule is implemented.