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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.07.05 08:41:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:I'm tired of headshots with the Charge Sniper Rifle not killing people. Like for real. Dude gets within range on me, and I send a round into the center of his skull at literally 9,000,000 mph (14,484,096 km/h).
And the game is audacious enough to still leave him with 30% of his armor! Nlgga I just removed 30% your brain! I hit the goddamn pineal gland! Fk you!
http://i.imgur.com/bMz4XpK.jpg
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
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Posted - 2014.07.05 09:01:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Jathniel wrote:See the hostility, my fellow snipers? If you dont speak up to CCP Rattati and get some love, no one else will.
Fools in here believe you getting a headshot with the hardest hitting sniper rifle means you didn't earn a kill. Then they call it a technicality and call you a scrub.
Fools, need some reading comprehension before they cry about redline sniping.
My fellow snipers, I am reaching out to you. *howls*
Answer the calllllll of your ally! May the lone wolfers rise up! May the overwatch sniper that guards his unit from above RISE UP! *howls*
Answer the calllll of your ally! May the Will of your Haters be denied! *howls*
You have no place in PC, they say! Your gun has no place on the battlefield, they say! Your purpose and roll is better off replaced with a shotgun, they say!
Their guns are allowed to work with one shot, but they say yours MAY NOT! They envy you... they call this "balance". Will you simply accept this?! *howls*
Answer the calllllll of your ally! Your gun does a set amount of damage, the target has a set amount of hp, if you do more dmagae than he has hp you win. Get it? Its that way for everyone, and its also not the hardest hitting sniper, That is the purpose of a headshot, with a sniper rifle. That is the purpose of every gun in this game! To take more HP then your target possesses. "Yo passion n' antipathy betrays yo fearrr!!" My fellow snipers, answer the call of your ally! Put out the numbers. Put out the proposals! Do not let the vocal minority haters win again. A small and dedicated group of you, struggle to play with your weapon of choice. CCP sees your population, but they read your dedication to your weapon incorrectly. They believe you use it because "it's in a good spot". What they do not see, is your sorrow when you are passed over for PC... or when you have to lay your sniper rifle down and use some OTHER weapon because it's more competitive. Were not Nova Knives in the same position once....? How about abandoning sniper rifles completely my brethren...? So that CCP understands that the weapon is NOT where you would like it to be? Answer the callllllll of your ally!
look...
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
1598
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Posted - 2014.07.05 09:24:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Jathniel wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Jathniel
Your gun does a set amount of damage, the target has a set amount of hp, if you do more dmagae than he has hp you win. Get it? Its that way for everyone, and its also not the hardest hitting sniper, Exactly. No one comes on here QQing about the 'technicality' that someone with 600HP survived because they only did 590HP damage with their Duvolle. Every FPS ever has required that you remove all of someone's HP to kill them. Is that really so hard to grasp? And that is the point is - it - not? That the sniper rifle does not remove HP efficiently. Effectively, yes. Efficiently, no. My fellow snipers, why would our enemies not take a sniper rifle short of a Thale's into a PC match...? In attempting to troll.... thine enemies make thy case for the sniper rifle. The weapon is a joke. Killing with it... is not enough to silence them... they must be killed by it... efficiently. [:twisted wrote: Because an immobile sniper up in the hills is not dynamic enough for pc. Things are constantly shifting in pc and you must be also ready to shift. "Yes.... yes... my dear troll.... vedy vedy guuuud." That... is precisely why the sniper rifle must be buffed/rebalanced. Sitting in a redzone shooting into a map is no fun way to play... it is purposeless, and yet that is how it has been balanced, to punish sniper creativity and versatility. You, my little dumpling have made ze case...
http://i.imgur.com/pu40zNw.jpg
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 10:14:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
has no more f*cks to give.
....because snipers took too many turns with him, at some point in his life. Take your time with those quotes, pumpkin. Dont be so bitter. My fellow snipers, answer the call of your ally! Contact CCP Rattati. Because sniper rifles should work better than they do.
Ok, but if you want your ohk machines on every suit then go play cod.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 10:58:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Jathniel wrote:Planetside 2. It puts down. Battlefield 4? Down you go. CoD? EVERYTHING puts down so fast in that game, it may as well be ohk. Well.. Planetside: extremely low TTK in the first place. Battlefield: Sniper has drop and delay, it actually takes skill. CoD: TTK so low that even getting looked at gets you killed.
Planetside also has bullet velocities and drop....
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:07:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:No dude. I am a sniper, prof 4.
I agree with none of this, why should you OHK every suit in the game from 1-599 meters? I mean seriously, snipers like Pelognis and Nod Keras have been sniping for a long time, and they still are beastly.
This game is all about risk for reward. Sitting 300 meters in the redline is not risky, so is not very rewarding.
A sniper. Someone worthy of discussing this with. At last. There's the "redline" again. What is that? I don't recall ever bringing that up. Don't fall for the ad hominem of trolls dude. My post has nothing to do with the redline, nor an "I win button". (Some people don't assume, when they should; and then they assume incorrectly, when they shouldn't. Don't be like those people.) It's important that discussion on this gets underway, so that people can know. Check this out: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166007Jathniel wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I didn't see anything concrete here, increase headshot multiplier, range, make other snipers than Thale's powerful, increase scope zoom....
Anecdotally I haven't been killed by a sniper in ages, get picked off once in a blue moon if I am careless and in open under half hp. I need to look at the numbers, but sniper use is very stable, none of the rifles or new weapons have had a meaningful impact on the use of sniper rifles, so it's a steady group of people who like to snipe apparantly, I am not even sure they venture into Tac AR or SCR at all.
Feel free to share, we have no specific hate/love with snipers, they should have a viable place on the battlefield like all of our weapons. I propose the following changes to the Charge Sniper Rifle: - Increase damage by 100%. .
http://i.imgur.com/a3Lx7EP.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:11:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:While lower tier snipers could indeed use a slight buff, I'm not going to explain why a OHK from any range is a bad idea.
The only exception to this rule should be forge gun, though the perfect accuracy needs to be attended to. lol hot damn another one thinking this has to do with the redline? Did ANYBODY actually read the situation I described in the OP? lol? Trolls resonate with people WAY too loudly in these forums. Pay no attention to the trolls ad hominem, please. lol It's meant to distract. jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Planetside also has bullet velocities and drop.... Hakyou Brutor wrote:
Well.. Planetside: extremely low TTK in the first place.
Battlefield: Sniper has drop and delay, it actually takes skill.
CoD: TTK so low that even getting looked at gets you killed.
Both of you are correct. We don't have BALLISTICS in Dust. If we had ballistics than a sniper's damage at range wouldn't matter. He deserves his kill. But Dust has hitscan sniper rifles that are unwieldly, and pointless to use upclose... and in their current shape, they are a headache for people to deal with. They complain about redline snipers. They demand snipers get creative and come up close, yet there is plenty of risk to the sniper at that point, and zero reward.
Ohk for a weapon longer than 100m range is just broken, why do you think everyone hates thales?
And if shotguns weren't bad enough...also, snipers have almost no risk, they should get low reward in a game where you pay for everything.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:31:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Ohk for a weapon longer than 100m range is just broken, why do you think everyone hates thales?
And if shotguns weren't bad enough...
I understand your frustration, but we can't sit here and call a headshot OHK broken nor unreasonable. Someone is running and jumping around, their head is small target. Shotguns are point blank weapons, with high alpha they MUST kill you up close or they are useless; and a sniper rifle does not have the RoF necessary to justify it NOT having a OHK on headshot. A shotgun OHKing you is to be expected, it's gunning you right in the teeth. A headshot from a sniper rifle OHKing you should be expected. Per function of these niche weapons, an OHK can't possibly reasonably be considered OP. You can't complain about OHK, when reasonable circumstances like that are met. Hence the phrase, keep your head down. If anything, I 'feel' it's this hatred for short TTK and OHK (no matter what) that has caused Dust to fail. People just hate dying in this game that badly.
On expensive suits it's just ********
It's already broken enough randomly getting 1 shotted by a forge, and if a sniper could 1hk any suit past 150m it's just broken, unless it's a scout, in which case it's fine.
skrub wrote: I propose the following changes to the Charge Sniper Rifle:
- Increase damage by 100%. .
http://i.imgur.com/a3Lx7EP.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
1598
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:47:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Vapor Forseti wrote:I'd agree with you if everyone wasn't against you. Thanks a lot, Pontius Pilate... lol  But "everyone" broke the game. Maybe it's just how I presented it. The 'vocal one' in particular isn't offering remedies. Just expressing his hatred of dying to some noob 1 shotting nomatter what and further than 150m
Also, no frame exept a heavy can take a charged headshot, so yea.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:50:00 -
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You know what, im tired of somenody justifying ohk's so....
http://i.imgur.com/UekmzAj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LXiOUEi.gif
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 11:55:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jathniel wrote:Vapor Forseti wrote:I'd agree with you if everyone wasn't against you. Thanks a lot, Pontius Pilate... lol But "everyone" broke the game. Maybe it's just how I presented it. The 'vocal one' in particular isn't offering remedies. Just expressing his hatred of dying to some noob 1 shotting nomatter what and further than 150m Also, no frame exept a heavy can take a charged headshot, so yea. Few tanked logis/assaults can withstand headshots, so not really. Ponies. Jerrmy, I thought I raised you better.
http://i.imgur.com/rYm9fHm.jpg
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
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Posted - 2014.07.05 17:56:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ignore jerrmy12.
He's not really known around here for his logical abilities to form an argument, or conclusion.
Who says I was trying to, the op serms like a troll.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.06 05:31:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Jathniel, you can complain that people are mentioning the redline all you like but it is still relevant. If you do a direct buff to snipers, you also directly buff redline sniping.
If snipers could be forced out of the redline I'd quite happily support some buffing. Nothing like some of the absurd buffs I've seen suggested in the past (820 damage per shot from a charge sniper rifle is not reasonable) but some moderate buffs would be worth considering. I have a question for you... Where on any of the maps can a sniper get a view of further than 120m with a target point wider than 5m? I have yet to see a single map that actually allows snipers to play anywhere other than the hills. Lolz, then you are not being creative, hell go to Manus Peaks and sit anywhere. You can shoot anywhere. Perhaps you could set on a specific place on any map and cover the objective, any objective. Some maps are not best suited for sniping, and Manus Peaks is not great for heavies either. I refuse to admit that balance of a class is based on full time use of tbat class. Many noobs have not figured out yet in dust, its about having many fits in your closet, sniping is one fit that can work sometimes, on somemaps, but if you are the guy saying well im just going to sit here and snipe the whole time im playing dust then you are playing this game to lose. Aaaand I get a reply from a user who didn't actually read what I wrote. Not surprising. Also, you referenced the map where everyone basically stays inside of a large node the entire time. You sit on that hill you're gonna get diddly squit. Plus you are referring to a SINGLE point on only ONE map and calling it good?
He's calling it good cuz it's a good apot, he doesn't have to list all spots.
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