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Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
1515
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote: It's rather sad actually. The only ones who even bother putting up a fight are those with 20GJ Railguns attached.
Isn't this what av wanted? Why is it sad? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2578
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:28:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:tankers a pretty easy to kill now if you would give it an attempt to try.
he's not exactly wrong, tankers really have few tools to fight back against infantry with, rail is the only accurate weapon they have left and it is counter balanced by it's sheer inability to do anything.
tankers may as well be using shotguns that only fire a single ray. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15552
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:48:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:David Mustane wrote:AV is still joke. Mlt gear does nothing to deter any AV. So until AV is balanced to match the AV output, AV just isn't an option for anyone but those in proto gear.
And tankers will QQ once AV is balanced. LOL what are you talking about? I can whip out a cheap standard FG and still put in work. You can even skill into remotes to help out. Or try some AV nades. Two or three people concentrating on AV produces results. HTFU
This type of argument is what gives weight to separate gunner and pilot in HAvs.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
5302
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:08:00 -
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DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV2RTIS5Zik&list=LL8Hm-XWE3c-61NQ0XqzbhNQ&index=2
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3646
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:11:00 -
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*looks at magrider*
Tanks are fine.
*looks at max suits and gives them a hug*
Heavies are fine.
*looks at and other games ttk*
There is no problem.
I will spam your face with aurum proto.
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Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
370
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:26:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Tanks can't be everywhere at the same time, now they have to deploy more tactically and help cap points. They can still redline camp and pad their KDR, but Infantry can safely deploy far from them and effectively ignore them while having a good time.
I would generally say that this trend is positive for the game. I don't mean to be rude, but this is no way an actual solution to an actual problem. The fact that you guys keep taking tanks out of game modes, as well as stating above that infantry now has the option to "effectively ignore them", clearly demonstrates that you understand their glaring balance issues. But of course simply removing them from certain game modes doesn't solve any of these issues, it just moves them. A band-aid solution in the purest sense, I would say.
So, when you say "I would generally say that this trend is positive for the game.", I'm sorry, but the only way I can read it is, "I would generally say that not actually solving problems is a positive for the game."
Which is of course false.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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pegasis prime
PROTO WOLVES
1765
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:32:00 -
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Ahh iv been loving all the bush tankers coming to play with the big boys. They melt pretty quickly when a real anti tank tanker is about.
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3648
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:40:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Ahh iv been loving all the bush tankers coming to play with the big boys. They melt pretty quickly when a real anti tank tanker is about.
So finally, the skilled tankers are now bashing all those filthy mlt heroes who blagged it for the past couple of months.
I will spam your face with aurum proto.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
509
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:43:00 -
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Why the hell are people whining? Skirmish and Dom are modes where people can actually make a stand against tankers, even if the blueberries are moderately potato. Tanks also can't capture point, which is kind of important in objective-based game modes. AV also got buffed and hardeners and reppers nerfed and a one-two punch AV Commando was already useful against anything short of triple repper Madrugar.
I'm baffled by the negative reaction. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2281
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:54:00 -
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I use an incubus to get vehicle dominance at stage 1. But I don't do it alone. I work with Delboy. He is an amazing missile tanker. We are on comms the whole time. If you see me and him In a game, and you are tanking be warned that I am acting as an eye in the sky. I am telling him exactly where you are.
It's teamwork that makes a powerful tank killing team. If I shoot you then stop as you hardeners go on. Panic. I am getting your hardeners on so that they are used up. Just as they hit cooldown expect to see delboy come round the corner.
See you in domination. You to Rattati..... If you dare.
Judge For CPM 1 youtube
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
462
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:18:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:AV is still joke. Mlt gear does nothing to deter any AV. So until AV is balanced to match the AV output, AV just isn't an option for anyone but those in proto gear.
And tankers will QQ once AV is balanced.
This is untrue. I run cbr-7 swarms and exo AV grenades on an adv c1s scout with 2 enhanced damage mods and I manage to play with vehicles just fine. I'm not able to just maul any and all vehicles but I'm a significant deterrent and even manage to scrap a few. Don't be a part of the problem, be a part of the solution. Granted my main (this acct.) Has proto forge, swarm, and AV made and mines.....and I've been running AV through the past 2 years so my tactics aren't typical, but that fit I described is on an alt with literally minimal sp into AV.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:18:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I use an incubus to get vehicle dominance at stage 1. But I don't do it alone. I work with Delboy. He is an amazing missile tanker. We are on comms the whole time. If you see me and him In a game, and you are tanking be warned that I am acting as an eye in the sky. I am telling him exactly where you are.
It's teamwork that makes a powerful tank killing team. If I shoot you then stop as you hardeners go on. Panic. I am getting your hardeners on so that they are used up. Just as they hit cooldown expect to see delboy come round the corner.
See you in domination. You to Rattati..... If you dare.
Absolute BS
I know for a fact that you always quit against any decent AV/vehicle players
Against me and spkr you quit every game and the 1 game you didnt quit you lost your DS within 1min to spkr who brought out and put a rail into the middle of the map just to kill you
The only teamwork i ever see you use is when you all quit together and back out |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
462
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:31:00 -
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Case and point, I saw uncoordinated sloppy half assed AV attempts. A squad of good players who spent half the match not killing tanks. Your bad.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
5094
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:35:00 -
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DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Tanks can't be everywhere at the same time, now they have to deploy more tactically and help cap points. They can still redline camp and pad their KDR, but Infantry can safely deploy far from them and effectively ignore them while having a good time.
I would generally say that this trend is positive for the game. May I suggest somewhere in the academy you let the new players know that as soon as they graduate they need AV cause after playing in there I had no idea and wasted all my so on other stuff. If I would have known more about the real situation I would have done my skills much differently. And I guess you ignore 5 enemy vehicles how? Sit back in the redline and use a sniper rifle? Seriously me and several other players were pushing every which way to get out of the redline to no avail. Jeeps, drop ships other tanks cloaked scouts. I must be playing a different game than you?
You're talking to a dev / community rep guy that's played about the same amount of hours as you probably, and have less idea about the game than you.
I like devs that talk about the game like they actually play it often
I'm sure he'll say something like "I play DUST allot"... well I can guarantee you, it's not nearly to be giving "advice"... ignore vehicles is his answer...GG.
Tank on an objectives outside? Ignore...Tank on an objective inside? Ignore... Tanks everywhere but redline? Ignore... how about just telling people leave the game and find another lobby. Seems like the better solution to tank spam than staying there and contributing to people padding their KD.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
1016
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:40:00 -
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DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
How do I get into those kinds of matches. More often then not, I don't have enough tanks to try my forge gun on.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5348
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:42:00 -
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Difference is, tanks don't necessarily win the battle for you in skirmish and domination.
I've had several instances where the team with a ton of HAVs lost because they didn't have a strong infantry presence to hack.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3289
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:46:00 -
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good that they moved on and on objective game modes you actually can counter them and dont have to pray that you dont get spawned infront of them. Serves those stat padders right. |
Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
370
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Posted - 2014.06.21 02:28:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Difference is, tanks don't necessarily win the battle for you in skirmish and domination.
I've had several instances where the team with a ton of HAVs lost because they didn't have a strong infantry presence to hack. That's a fair point. Of course, it's still not really a solution to the problem. And regardless, a match where half of one team is sitting in tanks and doing nothing to actually help win is going to be less engaging for both sides.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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BDiD
HEAVY LOGISTIC OPERATIONS
14
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Posted - 2014.06.21 02:53:00 -
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DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:True Adamance wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
If you think tanking is I-Win button now you .... welp..... ugh this community who can't accept they just got beaten by something they personally don't like...... Frankly I am going to say this to you. If you don't want to lose mount your own armoured attack. If the enemy is willing to commit X amount of assets to a fight then you need to be, or have a strategy to defeat them.... if not then you deserve to lose. Yep and you are what's ruining this game . I have 2.5 mil SP and no av yet. I guess I should just quit then according to you I should be able to kill tanks. Lol Can we say elite dumb ass.
I'll make an alt all mlt gear and kill tanks. You just need a lil guidance. Not all high SP players are elitist.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10923
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Posted - 2014.06.21 03:09:00 -
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BDiD wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:True Adamance wrote:DEAD-EYE-KILLER wrote:Tankers have now moved from ambush to skirm and domination.
I guess there is more open space to mount a counter attack.
However 5 tanks on one side in a match is still dumb.
If you think tanking is I-Win button now you .... welp..... ugh this community who can't accept they just got beaten by something they personally don't like...... Frankly I am going to say this to you. If you don't want to lose mount your own armoured attack. If the enemy is willing to commit X amount of assets to a fight then you need to be, or have a strategy to defeat them.... if not then you deserve to lose. Yep and you are what's ruining this game . I have 2.5 mil SP and no av yet. I guess I should just quit then according to you I should be able to kill tanks. Lol Can we say elite dumb ass. I'll make an alt all mlt gear and kill tanks. You just need a lil guidance. Not all high SP players are elitist.
Neither am I elitist, in fact I am the furthest thing from it.
However complaining gets you no where, and complaining about something that every player here did at one time go through is pointless. We all know it sucks being a low SP toon against a high SP toon.
I get wrecked by the 50 million SP group even now.
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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Atiim
NoGameNoLife
9678
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:15:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Jumped into a battle as CCP Rattati, needed to see if I remembered my CCP psn password. Squaded up with some players, got in a couple of long range kills with my mil PLC, and recognized a few, Atiim and PepelePew . All good. This guy saved my life when I was fighting a Maddy under the tabletop.
Thanks.
-Insert Clever Statement Here-
"The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits"
-HAND
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
2606
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:38:00 -
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Wow..... over half a year of not playing this game and almost 2 months of being gone from the forums (not banned this time) and Tanks vs AV is STILL ****?????
oh and also, personal question from the old guys I know in this thread. Since I was one of the hardcore tankers before uprising 1.7 hit, where do I stand when it comes to respect?
am I considered one of the only real tankers? am I still remembered as one of the top best rail tankers? does anyone have a high opinion of me as a tanker? im even asking my old forum enemies an av vs tank. (yes, im talking about atiim and the others).
Closed Beta Vet.
Playstation 4 or nothing CCP.
Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
2606
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:40:00 -
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Wow..... over half a year of not playing this game and almost 2 months of being gone from the forums (not banned this time) and Tanks vs AV is STILL ****?????
oh and also, personal question from the old guys I know in this thread. Since I was one of the hardcore tankers before uprising 1.7 hit, where do I stand when it comes to respect?
am I considered one of the only real tankers? am I still remembered as one of the top best rail tankers? does anyone have a high opinion of me as a tanker? im even asking my old forum enemies an av vs tank. (yes, im talking about atiim and the others).
Closed Beta Vet.
Playstation 4 or nothing CCP.
Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
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Atiim
NoGameNoLife
9678
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:47:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Wow..... over half a year of not playing this game and almost 2 months of being gone from the forums (not banned this time) and Tanks vs AV is STILL ****????? Hell no. The HAV/AV game is more balanced than it was in Chrome. I don't think I've ever had this much fun with a Swarm Launcher, and the tanks actually last more than 5 seconds this time.
Void Echo wrote:oh and also, personal question from the old guys I know in this thread. Since I was one of the hardcore tankers before uprising 1.7 hit, where do I stand when it comes to respect?
am I considered one of the only real tankers? am I still remembered as one of the top best rail tankers? does anyone have a high opinion of me as a tanker? im even asking my old forum enemies an av vs tank. (yes, im talking about atiim and the others). Most players in your prime have quit DUST and the forums after the FanFest announcement, but I still remember you I know you were a tanker before 1.7, so yes I still consider you as one of the few real tankers.
As for your opinion as a tanker, I still respect you. Whether or not I completely agree with you however, is a different story.
-Insert Clever Statement Here-
"The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits"
-HAND
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
381
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:48:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Wow..... over half a year of not playing this game and almost 2 months of being gone from the forums (not banned this time) and Tanks vs AV is STILL ****?????
oh and also, personal question from the old guys I know in this thread. Since I was one of the hardcore tankers before uprising 1.7 hit, where do I stand when it comes to respect?
am I considered one of the only real tankers? am I still remembered as one of the top best rail tankers? does anyone have a high opinion of me as a tanker? im even asking my old forum enemies an av vs tank. (yes, im talking about atiim and the others).
You're a closed beta scrub. Deal with it bro.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
381
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:49:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I use an incubus to get vehicle dominance at stage 1. But I don't do it alone. I work with Delboy. He is an amazing missile tanker. We are on comms the whole time. If you see me and him In a game, and you are tanking be warned that I am acting as an eye in the sky. I am telling him exactly where you are.
It's teamwork that makes a powerful tank killing team. If I shoot you then stop as you hardeners go on. Panic. I am getting your hardeners on so that they are used up. Just as they hit cooldown expect to see delboy come round the corner.
See you in domination. You to Rattati..... If you dare. Absolute BS I know for a fact that you always quit against any decent AV/vehicle players Against me and spkr you quit every game and the 1 game you didnt quit you lost your DS within 1min to spkr who brought out and put a rail into the middle of the map just to kill you The only teamwork i ever see you use is when you all quit together and back out
LOL! OH THE HUMANITY!!!
Saying what's on people's minds
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
2606
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:52:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Void Echo wrote:Wow..... over half a year of not playing this game and almost 2 months of being gone from the forums (not banned this time) and Tanks vs AV is STILL ****?????
oh and also, personal question from the old guys I know in this thread. Since I was one of the hardcore tankers before uprising 1.7 hit, where do I stand when it comes to respect?
am I considered one of the only real tankers? am I still remembered as one of the top best rail tankers? does anyone have a high opinion of me as a tanker? im even asking my old forum enemies an av vs tank. (yes, im talking about atiim and the others). You're a closed beta scrub. Deal with it bro.
calling someone from closed beta a scrub is like calling a rattle snake a bunny.
Closed Beta Vet.
Playstation 4 or nothing CCP.
Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
2606
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:Wow..... over half a year of not playing this game and almost 2 months of being gone from the forums (not banned this time) and Tanks vs AV is STILL ****????? Hell no. The HAV/AV game is more balanced than it was in Chrome. I don't think I've ever had this much fun with a Swarm Launcher, and the tanks actually last more than 5 seconds this time. Void Echo wrote:oh and also, personal question from the old guys I know in this thread. Since I was one of the hardcore tankers before uprising 1.7 hit, where do I stand when it comes to respect?
am I considered one of the only real tankers? am I still remembered as one of the top best rail tankers? does anyone have a high opinion of me as a tanker? im even asking my old forum enemies an av vs tank. (yes, im talking about atiim and the others). Most players in your prime have quit DUST and the forums after the FanFest announcement, but I still remember you I know you were a tanker before 1.7, so yes I still consider you as one of the few real tankers. As for your opinion as a tanker, I still respect you. Whether or not I completely agree with you however, is a different story.
damn... I miss the destruction a lot. I cant wait till I move to san Antonio.
Closed Beta Vet.
Playstation 4 or nothing CCP.
Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
2606
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:Wow..... over half a year of not playing this game and almost 2 months of being gone from the forums (not banned this time) and Tanks vs AV is STILL ****????? Hell no. The HAV/AV game is more balanced than it was in Chrome. I don't think I've ever had this much fun with a Swarm Launcher, and the tanks actually last more than 5 seconds this time. Void Echo wrote:oh and also, personal question from the old guys I know in this thread. Since I was one of the hardcore tankers before uprising 1.7 hit, where do I stand when it comes to respect?
am I considered one of the only real tankers? am I still remembered as one of the top best rail tankers? does anyone have a high opinion of me as a tanker? im even asking my old forum enemies an av vs tank. (yes, im talking about atiim and the others). Most players in your prime have quit DUST and the forums after the FanFest announcement, but I still remember you I know you were a tanker before 1.7, so yes I still consider you as one of the few real tankers. As for your opinion as a tanker, I still respect you. Whether or not I completely agree with you however, is a different story.
damn... I miss the destruction a lot. I cant wait till I move to san Antonio.
Closed Beta Vet.
Playstation 4 or nothing CCP.
Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
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Atiim
NoGameNoLife
9679
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Posted - 2014.06.21 04:56:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote: Absolute BS
I know for a fact that you always quit against any decent AV/vehicle players
Against me and spkr you quit every game and the 1 game you didnt quit you lost your DS within 1min to spkr who brought out and put a rail into the middle of the map just to kill you
The only teamwork i ever see you use is when you all quit together and back out
Spkr4TheDead is a 3rd rate, below average PUB star at best. He couldn't even handle my Swarms so please forgive me but I'm gonna have to call BS on you making anyone rage-quit.
Don't wanna be that guy, but pics or it didn't happen.
-Insert Clever Statement Here-
"The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits"
-HAND
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