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Adipem Nothi wrote:

Vitharr Foebane wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

You guys gonna step up and ask for a nerf or do we have to?

Suggestions
1A) Nerf HP
1B) Why so medium suits can out tank us again?[/i]
2A) Nerf HMG Range
2B) Only the SG, NK, and ion pistol have less range then the HMG[/i]
3A) Reduce Explosive Resistance
3B) Guess you wanna go back to nading the slow *ss heavies again...[/i]
4A) Reduce Movement Speed
4B) Most suits walk faster then I sprint...[/i]
5A) Reduce Rotation Speed
5B) Plates reduce turn speed you know.[/i]

^ Two of the these are probably needed, but if you guys can come to consensus on one I won't complain.

since you obviously dont get it lemme repeat myself

Its not my job to fix your broken gear. Yet.
But I'll play ball ...

1. Your source? Early Uprising Logi? Didn't they get nerfed?
2. Your point? I've never killed anyone at 30m with Nova Knives or a Shotgun. Much less 50m.
3. Correct. I take issue with your surviving both of my Prototype grenades.
4. You have 3x - 4x the HP of most suits. Do most suits sprint 3x - 4x faster than you?
5. In Chrome, a Scout behind you meant poor odds of survival. How would you rate current odds?

Since you've asked for my help, here's how I'd fix HMG Heavies:

* Restore Chrome Rotation Speed.
* Restrict primary weapon slot to Heavy Weaponry.
* Reduce Absolute Range of HMG to 40m; reduce Effective Range accordingly.

Now before you guys get all worked up, keep in mind that this is my solution.
I never claimed it was optimal or fair or appropriate; I wouldn't know. I'm not a Heavy.

Do you see how it makes more sense for you to decide how to balance your broken gear?

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Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 175	Posted - 2014.06.14 04:37:00 - [31] - Quote ] If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. BTW I'm in game and looked at the efficiency of the HMG at 58m and it's 25%, but the amount of bullets that will hit are ludicrously small a heavy would have to crouch to get even 20% of the bullets to hit and you would have to be standing completely still to have even a chance of being hit...[/quote] Says the pimple faced lad. Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are trying to talk. Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1471	Posted - 2014.06.14 04:41:00 - [32] - Quote Heavy HP seems fine, they are force multipliers. The hmg though can now down enemies in droves. Talked to a heavy friend about it we thought that the killing power of the gun is good but to limit its massacring ability increase the heat build up with continuous fire. Not a complete Nerf, killing power remains but mass killing power decreased.
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9427	Posted - 2014.06.14 05:35:00 - [33] - Quote I usually manage to out-strafe Heavies and gun them down with my Commando in PUIBs, but in PC that gets me ripped to shreads unfortunately. If I had to pick any of the suggestions in this thread, I'd have to go with Scheneighnay McBob's or Pvt Numnutz's. That way the Sentinel w/HMG still maintains the point defense and breaching capabilities, but it'd encourage using it as a support weapon as well. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAMD
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1967	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:00:00 - [34] - Quote Last match I used an ADV RR on a Cal Scout Suit and went 18/0 with five assists... Guess how many of them were heavies? Use your bloody brain and engage from range, and use cover for your superior regen. The only heavy that has a decent regen is the Cal Sent, and it dies to Fluxes in a ridiculous fashion. Alternatively, use a speedy suit (Don't brick tank or use a cloak) and grab your favorite shotty and get in close and personal, also works like a charm. Heavies are also very easy to surprise due to their terrible sensors so you should almost always get the drop on them. The only aware heavies are the ones with friends, and if they have friends then get some friends of your own, works like a charm. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1350	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:00:00 - [35] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: ] If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. BTW I'm in game and looked at the efficiency of the HMG at 58m and it's 25%, but the amount of bullets that will hit are ludicrously small a heavy would have to crouch to get even 20% of the bullets to hit and you would have to be standing completely still to have even a chance of being hit... Says the pimple faced lad. Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are trying to talk. [/quote] Not gonna lower myself to slinging insults. That being said I've only been using the HMG since closed beta so before you end up looking like a "pimpled faced lad" think about what you say... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4316	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:03:00 - [36] - Quote This thread is sad to look at I'm a Elite heavy "I don't rage.I get even" Please donate isk if you want me to pub stomp you
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 176	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:19:00 - [37] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ] If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. BTW I'm in game and looked at the efficiency of the HMG at 58m and it's 25%, but the amount of bullets that will hit are ludicrously small a heavy would have to crouch to get even 20% of the bullets to hit and you would have to be standing completely still to have even a chance of being hit... Says the pimple faced lad. Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are trying to talk. Not gonna lower myself to slinging insults. That being said I've only been using the HMG since closed beta so before you end up looking like a "pimpled faced lad" think about what you say...[/quote] Not gonna sling insults? Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary. I'm having a conversation with an idiot. I'm out Einstein. Good luck. Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1350	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:28:00 - [38] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ] If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. BTW I'm in game and looked at the efficiency of the HMG at 58m and it's 25%, but the amount of bullets that will hit are ludicrously small a heavy would have to crouch to get even 20% of the bullets to hit and you would have to be standing completely still to have even a chance of being hit... Says the pimple faced lad. Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are trying to talk. Not gonna lower myself to slinging insults. That being said I've only been using the HMG since closed beta so before you end up looking like a "pimpled faced lad" think about what you say... Not gonna sling insults? Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary. [/quote] Please tell me at what point I insulted YOU personally? That being said you have yet to add ANYTHING useful to this topic for a while now while I took the time to go in game and refute your pathetic claims, thus revealing you to be a sad, butthurt merc who is mad that the sentinels aren't pushovers anymore Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 176	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:34:00 - [39] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ] If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. BTW I'm in game and looked at the efficiency of the HMG at 58m and it's 25%, but the amount of bullets that will hit are ludicrously small a heavy would have to crouch to get even 20% of the bullets to hit and you would have to be standing completely still to have even a chance of being hit... Says the pimple faced lad. Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are trying to talk. Not gonna lower myself to slinging insults. That being said I've only been using the HMG since closed beta so before you end up looking like a "pimpled faced lad" think about what you say... Not gonna sling insults? Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary. Please tell me at what point I insulted YOU personally? That being said you have yet to add ANYTHING useful to this topic for a while now while I took the time to go in game and refute your pathetic claims, thus revealing you to be a sad, butthurt merc who is mad that the sentinels aren't pushovers anymore[/quote] "Thus" is a big people word. Slow down sport. Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1351	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:38:00 - [40] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: ] If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. BTW I'm in game and looked at the efficiency of the HMG at 58m and it's 25%, but the amount of bullets that will hit are ludicrously small a heavy would have to crouch to get even 20% of the bullets to hit and you would have to be standing completely still to have even a chance of being hit... Says the pimple faced lad. Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are trying to talk. Not gonna lower myself to slinging insults. That being said I've only been using the HMG since closed beta so before you end up looking like a "pimpled faced lad" think about what you say... Not gonna sling insults? Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary. Please tell me at what point I insulted YOU personally? That being said you have yet to add ANYTHING useful to this topic for a while now while I took the time to go in game and refute your pathetic claims, thus revealing you to be a sad, butthurt merc who is mad that the sentinels aren't pushovers anymore "Thus" is a big people word. Slow down sport. [/quote] Hey, it's your credibility that's going down the sh*tter not mine... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 875	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:44:00 - [41] - Quote This Chromosome-era heavy is amused... Mr. Norse name versus Mr. Ironic name. Anyway, people with functional brain cells can easily counter an HMG heavy. It happens to this fat-boy all the time. Here's hoping rationality prevails. I am a minotaur.
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 176	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:46:00 - [42] - Quote [/quote] Please tell me at what point I insulted YOU personally? That being said you have yet to add ANYTHING useful to this topic for a while now while I took the time to go in game and refute your pathetic claims, thus revealing you to be a sad, butthurt merc who is mad that the sentinels aren't pushovers anymore[/quote] "Thus" is a big people word. Slow down sport. [/quote] Hey, it's your credibility that's going down the sh*tter not mine...[/quote] This ain't a job interview Einstein it's a video game forum. And since you called me a bi_ch I think I've added quite a bit to this thread, wouldn't you? Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1351	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:57:00 - [43] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Please tell me at what point I insulted YOU personally? That being said you have yet to add ANYTHING useful to this topic for a while now while I took the time to go in game and refute your pathetic claims, thus revealing you to be a sad, butthurt merc who is mad that the sentinels aren't pushovers anymore[/quote] "Thus" is a big people word. Slow down sport. [/quote] Hey, it's your credibility that's going down the shtter not mine...[/quote] This ain't a job interview Einstein it's a video game forum. And since you called me a bi_ch I think I've added quite a bit to this thread, wouldn't you? [/quote] Don't "dude" me and for future reference grown men don't like being called a ***. Some day you will know this as well. Says the pimple faced lad. Isn't it past your bedtime? The adults are trying to talk. Not gonna sling insults? Look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary. I'm having a conversation with an idiot. I'm out Einstein. Good luck. "Thus" is a big people word. Slow down sport. This ain't a job interview Einstein it's a video game forum. And since you called me a bi_ch I think I've added quite a bit to this thread, wouldn't you? That is all you've added since you made the assumption that I refered to you as a bitch though I must admit at this point the word seems to suit you quite well... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1351	Posted - 2014.06.14 06:58:00 - [44] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: This Chromosome-era heavy is amused... Mr. Norse name versus Mr. Ironic name. Anyway, people with functional brain cells can easily counter an HMG heavy. It happens to this fat-boy all the time. Here's hoping rationality prevails. Rationality from this crowd is asking alot... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Meee One BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo 851	Posted - 2014.06.14 07:56:00 - [45] - Quote Currently heavies base movement is 3m/s. Nerf it more you say? They wouldn't be able to move anymore! But there is something we can all agree on... -Heavies are fat
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14474	Posted - 2014.06.14 07:59:00 - [46] - Quote Meee One wrote: Currently heavies base movement is 3m/s. No it isn't. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1353	Posted - 2014.06.14 08:17:00 - [47] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meee One wrote: Currently heavies base movement is 3m/s. No it isn't. If you use complex plates its pretty close to that on an Amarr sentinel 3.13 to be exact... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3510	Posted - 2014.06.14 08:31:00 - [48] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: After months of the scout witch hunt I have known Fatties were up next. It is overdue. I was on the short end of a Fattie's HMG recently and the kill screen said 58 meters. This was a basic HMG. That is simply far too much range for that weapon to be effective. I was at full health. Close quarters, yeah ok. Almost 60 meters? No, you can't have both. From what I see in pubs, the majority run fat now. I can see why. Unless you were an untanked minmatar scout standing completely still im gonna call bll sht... You can call whatever you want. It's the internet. G/1-Series Gal scout with 87 hp shield and 162 hp armor. I was standing in one of those open square containers. Jumped and then...58 meters and it was church. So you were totally untanked, standing still and in the open. While 58 metres is quite a bit much, there are more problems with that scenario than just the HMG. So, after all the forum posts the last few months I've read with belly aching about tanked brick tanked scouts, my non-tanked speed oriented scout constitutes a problem? A bit hypocritical is being polite. The container is open at both ends but enclosed so I wasn't in the open. I don't care if my scout was asleep. 58m is unacceptable. I have to say, both having used an HMG a reasonable amount in the past and spending the last few days especially Logiing for heavies, you are either exaggerating or misrepresenting the issue at hand. I was Logiing a Gastun's yesterday, and he was killing things at 40m slower than my BK-42. I cannot accept that a STD HMG managed to kill your scout 'in the blink of an eye' at 58m, considering that the HMG is well and truly outside its effective range, let alone its optimal, that it could kill something with a hitbox as small as a Scout's at such an extreme range. See, the part that gets me about your description of he events is not 'HMG', '58m' or '250 EHP'. It's 'standing'. An HMG killed you outside its optimal while you were 'standing still'. Anything can kill you outside its optimal when you stand still. For the record, I'm still in favour of some HMG tweaks. NOT some Sentinel tweaks. CCP Rattati Best Dev I gots to stop making 3am posts...
Ealphea Aeeagol Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 4	Posted - 2014.06.14 08:51:00 - [49] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Please tell me at what point I insulted YOU personally? That being said you have yet to add ANYTHING useful to this topic for a while now while I took the time to go in game and refute your pathetic claims, thus revealing you to be a sad, butthurt merc who is mad that the sentinels aren't pushovers anymore[/quote] "Thus" is a big people word. Slow down sport. [/quote] Hey, it's your credibility that's going down the shtter not mine...[/quote] This ain't a job interview Einstein it's a video game forum. And since you called me a bi_ch I think I've added quite a bit to this thread, wouldn't you? [/quote] Duuuuude. Shut the *** up. You are a whiny little b*tch that starts to personally attack people who are not agreeing with her, and then turns around calling them names. Get on topic and defend your claims, or STFU and "get gud". OT: Heavies are fine. HMGs are fine.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1356	Posted - 2014.06.14 08:54:00 - [50] - Quote Ealphea Aeeagol wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Please tell me at what point I insulted YOU personally? That being said you have yet to add ANYTHING useful to this topic for a while now while I took the time to go in game and refute your pathetic claims, thus revealing you to be a sad, butthurt merc who is mad that the sentinels aren't pushovers anymore "Thus" is a big people word. Slow down sport. [/quote] Hey, it's your credibility that's going down the shtter not mine...[/quote] This ain't a job interview Einstein it's a video game forum. And since you called me a bi_ch I think I've added quite a bit to this thread, wouldn't you? [/quote] Duuuuude. Shut the *** up. You are a whiny little b*tch that starts to personally attack people who are not agreeing with her, and then turns around calling them names. Get on topic and defend your claims, or STFU and "get gud". OT: Heavies are fine. HMGs are fine.[/quote] There IS no defense hence why he stopped discussing and started attacking :3 Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

Sum1ne Else G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1200	Posted - 2014.06.14 11:08:00 - [51] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Turn speed So they get a shotgun to the back 3 times before they can turn? WTF Impressive? Longest PLC Kill 151.8m - OHK on a Heavy < < < Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Sentinal ck.0
Sum1ne Else G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1200	Posted - 2014.06.14 11:13:00 - [52] - Quote Most people are running scouts with 400-500 ehp..which is killed in 0.5 seconds (DPS of boundless full skills is 910hp). I see teamwork and distance mowing down heavies. Dont get all up in the face of a heavy with a remote in the hand trying to get a cheap kill. I think the signature on the tacnet needs reworking to know the heavy is around the corner. TBH this game is broken way too much, theres way too much to 'fix' (please do not use the word nerf-its broken so it needs fixing). Impressive? Longest PLC Kill 151.8m - OHK on a Heavy < < < Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Sentinal ck.0
Sum1ne Else G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1200	Posted - 2014.06.14 11:23:00 - [53] - Quote ugg reset wrote: I just gana drop this here Impressive? Longest PLC Kill 151.8m - OHK on a Heavy < < < Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Sentinal ck.0
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2014.06.14 11:31:00 - [54] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: After months of the scout witch hunt I have known Fatties were up next. It is overdue. I was on the short end of a Fattie's HMG recently and the kill screen said 58 meters. This was a basic HMG. That is simply far too much range for that weapon to be effective. I was at full health. Close quarters, yeah ok. Almost 60 meters? No, you can't have both. From what I see in pubs, the majority run fat now. I can see why. Unless you were an untanked minmatar scout standing completely still im gonna call bll sht... You can call whatever you want. It's the internet. G/1-Series Gal scout with 87 hp shield and 162 hp armor. I was standing in one of those open square containers. Jumped and then...58 meters and it was church. you should die in one hit from anything
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14478	Posted - 2014.06.14 11:34:00 - [55] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meee One wrote: Currently heavies base movement is 3m/s. No it isn't. If you use complex plates its pretty close to that on an Amarr sentinel 3.13 to be exact... "Base movement" Base movement =/= movement speed after stacking 4 complex plates, and even after that it's still incorrect. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 83	Posted - 2014.06.14 12:00:00 - [56] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote: Nerf the plasma cannon too, someone instakilled my galmando with it earlier. You know your sh*t is ridiculous. Why not man up and ask Rattati to fix it? If you guys take the reigns, maybe you'll get to pick what he nerfs. The nerf hammer is coming, Bro. Grow a pair and take ownership of it. Telling someone to grow a pair yet saying the heavy is op?. Get real scrub. Its a fking heavy with a hmg................ Service with a smile
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1810	Posted - 2014.06.14 14:32:00 - [57] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote: Nerf the plasma cannon too, someone instakilled my galmando with it earlier. You know your sh*t is ridiculous. Why not man up and ask Rattati to fix it? If you guys take the reigns, maybe you'll get to pick what he nerfs. The nerf hammer is coming, Bro. Grow a pair and take ownership of it. Telling someone to grow a pair yet saying the heavy is op?. Get real scrub. Its a fking heavy with a hmg................ I should be able to resist multiple AV sources while farming infantry. Because I'm in a Tank. In real life, tanks can do that. ^ Can you hear how dumb that sounds? I am calling out every HMG Heavy who claims "everything is fine". Grow a pair. Own the problem. Help Rattati fix the problem. Or non-Heavies like me will help Rattati fix the problem. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1370	Posted - 2014.06.14 14:41:00 - [58] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: You guys gonna step up and ask for a nerf or do we have to? Suggestions * Nerf HP Why so medium suits can out tank us again? * Nerf HMG Range Only the SG, NK, and ion pistol have less range then the HMG * Reduce Explosive Resistance Guess you wanna go back to nading the slow ss heavies again...* * Reduce Movement Speed Most suits walk faster then I sprint... * Reduce Rotation Speed Plates reduce turn speed you know. ^ Two of the these are probably needed, but if you guys can come to consensus on one I won't complain. since you obviously dont get it lemme repeat myself Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1810	Posted - 2014.06.14 14:59:00 - [59] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: You guys gonna step up and ask for a nerf or do we have to? Suggestions 1A) Nerf HP 1B) Why so medium suits can out tank us again?[/i] 2A) Nerf HMG Range 2B) Only the SG, NK, and ion pistol have less range then the HMG[/i] 3A) Reduce Explosive Resistance 3B) Guess you wanna go back to nading the slow ss heavies again...[/i] 4A) Reduce Movement Speed 4B) Most suits walk faster then I sprint...[/i] 5A) Reduce Rotation Speed 5B) Plates reduce turn speed you know.[/i] ^ Two of the these are probably needed, but if you guys can come to consensus on one I won't complain. since you obviously dont get it lemme repeat myself Its not my job to fix your broken gear. Yet. But I'll play ball ... 1. Your source? Early Uprising Logi? Didn't they get nerfed? 2. Your point? I've never killed anyone at 30m with Nova Knives or a Shotgun. Much less 50m. 3. Correct. I take issue with your surviving both of my Prototype grenades. 4. You have 3x - 4x the HP of most suits. Do most suits sprint 3x - 4x faster than you? 5. Your point? In Chrome, a Scout behind you meant poor odds of survival. Now, you've got good odds. Since you've asked for my help, here's how I'd fix HMG Heavies: Restore Chrome Rotation Speed. * Restrict primary weapon slot to Heavy Weaponry. * Reduce Absolute Range of HMG to 40m; reduce Optimal Range accordingly. Now before you guys get all worked up, keep in mind that this is my solution. I never claimed it was optimal or fair or appropriate; I wouldn't know. I'm not a Heavy. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4425	Posted - 2014.06.14 15:16:00 - [60] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: You guys gonna step up and ask for a nerf or do we have to? Suggestions 1A) Nerf HP 1B) Why so medium suits can out tank us again?[/i] 2A) Nerf HMG Range 2B) Only the SG, NK, and ion pistol have less range then the HMG[/i] 3A) Reduce Explosive Resistance 3B) Guess you wanna go back to nading the slow ss heavies again...[/i] 4A) Reduce Movement Speed 4B) Most suits walk faster then I sprint...[/i] 5A) Reduce Rotation Speed 5B) Plates reduce turn speed you know.[/i] ^ Two of the these are probably needed, but if you guys can come to consensus on one I won't complain. since you obviously dont get it lemme repeat myself Its not my job to fix your broken gear. Yet. But I'll play ball ... 1. Your source? Early Uprising Logi? Didn't they get nerfed? 2. Your point? I've never killed anyone at 30m with Nova Knives or a Shotgun. Much less 50m. 3. Correct. I take issue with your surviving both of my Prototype grenades. 4. You have 3x - 4x the HP of most suits. Do most suits sprint 3x - 4x faster than you? 5. In Chrome, a Scout behind you meant poor odds of survival. How would you rate current odds? Since you've asked for my help, here's how I'd fix HMG Heavies: Restore Chrome Rotation Speed. * Restrict primary weapon slot to Heavy Weaponry. * Reduce Absolute Range of HMG to 40m; reduce Effective Range accordingly. Now before you guys get all worked up, keep in mind that this is my solution. I never claimed it was optimal or fair or appropriate; I wouldn't know. I'm not a Heavy. Do you see how it makes more sense for you to decide how to balance your broken gear? So if you don't know anything, how about not offering solutions?



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