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BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 427	Posted - 2014.06.08 16:50:00 - [1] - Quote DUST 514: The King Is Dead And Our Princes Have Fallen I was given this shocking information by a trusted friend and i was stunned to silence for the first time in DUST514, as we all know CCP has cancelled WOD and had to make some hard choices for lay offs and redundancies, well i hear you ask what has this got to do with DUST 514, WE have lost 2 of the most important figures in DUST514 CCP SABERWING and CCP ETERNE. this comes as a shock to all as we have only just found out that DUST514 is soon to be cut as well leaving the community on the back foot yet again, with no point of contact for the CPM0 and the CPM1 to express our concerns and suggestions further widening the gap between CCP and our community. With CCP SABERWING having been shown the door is there now really a need for for the CPM ? My most heart felt sympathies to everyone effected by these layoffs CPP SaberWing, CCP Eterne you have gained the respect of our community . I wish the pair of you all the best in the future and I WILL buy you guys a beer ! BEER TIME !
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5986	Posted - 2014.06.08 16:51:00 - [2] - Quote And that's why I've been drinking for the past three days. Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14250	Posted - 2014.06.08 16:56:00 - [3] - Quote Saberwing? nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2147	Posted - 2014.06.08 16:59:00 - [4] - Quote I see this as devastating news. The loss of a fair minded and responsive community representative who continuously demonstrated his commitment to the link between CCP and us is a real blow to DUST. How can we trust CCP will look after us after the loss of PS3 support and now the sudden loss of our link to them? I am personally outraged at the way CCP treated him. Judge For CPM 1 youtube Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 669	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:02:00 - [5] - Quote god sodding dammit. just when i think theres some hope. hope is dashed off a rock.
Protected Void Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 310	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:06:00 - [6] - Quote bump
Yoma Carrim Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 564	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:07:00 - [7] - Quote Not our Saberwing he did so much for us and CCP. Oh Heck
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 456	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:16:00 - [8] - Quote BAMM, thanks for telling everyone even though you were asked not to, so we could let Saberwing tell people in his own time. Seriously... Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
DELB0Y 11	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:22:00 - [9] - Quote Nightmare. Unlucky Saberwing dude and also all the other people that lost there jobs. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5644	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:23:00 - [10] - Quote Not even surprised. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.

Syeven Reed G0DS AM0NG MEN 699	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:23:00 - [11] - Quote Sad if its true :(, do you happen to have more information? Twitter MajLagSpike CPM Application
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 209	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:24:00 - [12] - Quote We are done
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 270	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:25:00 - [13] - Quote What the hell is going on over there? Saberwing was just settling into his job and starting to get comfortable as a community manager. Until 3-4 days ago he was still posting as usual on his twitter about the release of hotfix alpha. Why the **** do we bother playing this game for? Desperate attempt to get BPOs
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 272	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:32:00 - [14] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I see this as devastating news. The loss of a fair minded and responsive community representative who continuously demonstrated his commitment to the link between CCP and us is a real blow to DUST. How can we trust CCP will look after us after the loss of PS3 support and now the sudden loss of our link to them? I am personally outraged at the way CCP treated him. You still want anything to do with CPM1? Desperate attempt to get BPOs
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3641	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:44:00 - [15] - Quote We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... THEN I will voice my opinion. I feel like Sabrewing was literally just hired on too :/ Either way, Rattai is doing a great job in speaking directly to us instead of through another person, which is probably the first time in the history of Dust that we have someone doing that. I guess we'll have to go pick on Logibro now...seeing as we don't have our Socksfour and Chickenwing anymore. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 568	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:48:00 - [16] - Quote Its a ***** big shame, all the originals, Brandon Laurino (had our vision till the end) CCP Blam Cmdr Wang CCP Eterne CCP Saberwing (new but still a boss) Are gone? Thats ***** bullshit. The DUST 514 dev team was like the cycle of life, started young full of ideas and visions and future which it could have reached then slowly aged till death. I feel exactly like Bamm does in this video. Legion on PS4 "Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart"
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 569	Posted - 2014.06.08 17:56:00 - [17] - Quote Also, deep condolences to those who lost their jobs, such a competitive industry to get into, and if you get layed off like that it is hard to return. When you say DUST is getting cut, do you mean it is shutting down? Legion on PS4 "Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart"
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1421	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:03:00 - [18] - Quote What?! Saberwing?! Whyyyyy?! When I heard about eterne and was shocked, this is really painful. o7 saberwing, a price of dust indeed
Cavani1EE7 The Rainbow Effect 72	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:21:00 - [19] - Quote lolCCP 1337
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10217	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:24:00 - [20] - Quote Oh hey look, another one of the few people at CCP I give a **** about is gone. The list is getting smaller and smaller. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2669	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:39:00 - [21] - Quote Very sad to hear. CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing were two of the best devs involved with DUST. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5167	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:40:00 - [22] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Very sad to hear. CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing were two of the best devs involved with DUST. Community Reps, not devs. They had no real impact on the game. But, either way, they were a link in a time where we feel there is none. CCP has to be the worst company. EDIT: Lmao at ending :3 n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1791	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:41:00 - [23] - Quote Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3255	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:46:00 - [24] - Quote Pretty deep sh*t at the end. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5167	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:47:00 - [25] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Can you stop being misleading? Work on Dust is basically work on Legion to begin with, so it's incredibly smoke and mirrors of you to make comments suggesting Dust is receiving any sort of real attention outside of being a alpha testing lobby shooter for Legion. Actually, as CPM, tell me, what is Dust's game genre? Is it still an RTSFPSMMO like it was last year? Or can we finally just say it's a lobby shooter with a cool game mode called planetary conquest. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Chimichanga66605 Vader's Taco Shack 154	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:47:00 - [26] - Quote Well **. That ***** sucks. Mk.0 Specialist, Republic Loyalist "Badassery is not born, but often thrust upon you." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14261	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:48:00 - [27] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Or can we finally just say it's a lobby shooter with a cool game mode called planetary conquest. PC is a cool game mode? It's an incredibly flawed and difficult way to just get competitive matches. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5168	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:49:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Or can we finally just say it's a lobby shooter with a cool game mode called planetary conquest. PC is a cool game mode? It's an incredibly flawed and difficult way to just get competitive matches. Compare it to other FPS's. It might be a shell of a concept it was a month ago - but you can still take land and remove people from the map. You can't do that in other games still. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 445	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:50:00 - [29] - Quote This is a serious WTF moment ...... No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5646	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:55:00 - [30] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. "Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad." Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.

CEOPyrex CloneA The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 727	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:56:00 - [31] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4142	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:01:00 - [32] - Quote CCP you are just not good at PR... Viktor for CPM I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 50Mil SP) Chat Channel: Vik PC
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14263	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:02:00 - [33] - Quote CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans. Wow, it was so insensitive of Hans to suggest people shouldn't start shouting about Saberwing getting fired. Man, losing my job would be made so much better by everyone shouting about it ASAP before I or my employer are okay with telling people. Hans must clearly be a complete sycophant for asking someone to be sensitive about someone losing their job. That's just the kind of evil corporate thing CCP would do for no reason, clearly he did it so he could get a job at CCP. This 'us vs them' mentality you're suggesting here is sickening, Pyrex. "whose side are you on?" Really? What side would he be on? Did he do this out of his own self-interest? A significant member of the community losing their job. Is it wrong to be sensitive about that? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:06:00 - [34] - Quote @CEOPyrex CloneA Holy smokes! Thanks for getting this out there gentlemen. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 460	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:09:00 - [35] - Quote CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans. You realise that a lot of us that talk with sabrewing knew, this isnt a CPM thing We didn't tell anyone because the man lost his job and we opted to not advertise it on the forums out of respect this is nothing to do with CPM, stop trying to hatemonger yet again Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2670	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:12:00 - [36] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Very sad to hear. CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing were two of the best devs involved with DUST. Community Reps, not devs. They had no real impact on the game. I'm aware of their positions within the company. CCP employees are often referred to as "devs" in short, regardless of their actual position in the company. You may note the number of "dev blogs" posted by CCP employees who do not do programming or graphics work. I'd contest your notion that they had no real impact on the game. Community relations has a huge impact on developer prioritization and the quality of the end product. And Eterne was a lore god, who contributed a lot to creating the "world" the game is set in. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1800	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:20:00 - [37] - Quote CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans. Enough bullshit Pyrex. I've had it with your ******** propaganda. I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games. After much discussion with BAMM, we agreed that it would be best for CCP to post this themselves, and BAMM agreed to do so. I never once told him that he wasn't allowed to use a youtube video, I said it wasn't very classy to use youtube and draw attention to his channel when he could have just gone THAT MOMENT (not waiting, not hiding anything) and posting this information on the channel. If BAMM wanted to get the information out, he could have done so yesterday, I certainly wasn't trying to stop him. I just thought it was better for CCP to have the courage to announce this stuff instead of leaving it up to the community to deal with themslves, and its unfortunate that they once again are sitting around instead of communicating with players. I know you don't like me Pyrex, but twisting this into a monster of a lie isn't going to accomplish anything here. The transition from "BAMM, stop teasing the public and share the info if you're going to" into "BAMM don't release important information" is completely inside your (rather powerful) imagination.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2671	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:24:00 - [38] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games. Confirmed. Hans told BAMM to just out with it. Yesterday. I was there(TM). I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 127	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:25:00 - [39] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Or can we finally just say it's a lobby shooter with a cool game mode called planetary conquest. PC is a cool game mode? It's an incredibly flawed and difficult way to just get competitive matches. Compare it to other FPS's. It might be a shell of a concept it was a month ago - but you can still take land and remove people from the map. You can't do that in other games still. Many games mostly RTS and PVP focused MMO games has been doing that for over a decade. PS1 had that since 10+ years. But not many FPS games besides Ps2 , Heroes and Generals, WW2 online, and a few others didn't really have much territory control that much is true though . Either way PC still had many problems with it ; so it doesn't seem to matter much in the end . It is sad to see Saberwing go though.
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1391	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:27:00 - [40] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games. Confirmed. Hans told BAMM to just out with it. Yesterday. I was there(TM). Witness here too. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University

Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1805	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:28:00 - [41] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: "Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad." Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection. All I'm expecting them to post is that there will be community management in place to work with the CPM1 on Dust and Legion. Doesn't have to be a bunch of corporate speak, those are simple facts (we've already met with Saberwing's replacement) and without posting the news upfront like the should be doing, they've left if up to asshats in the community to run around screaming "THE COMMUNITY IS SCREWED WE'RE ABANDONED".
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1526	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:28:00 - [42] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games. Confirmed. Hans told BAMM to just out with it. Yesterday. I was there(TM). Witness here too. Same. Delt for CPM1 Moss-delt on skype
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:32:00 - [43] - Quote Alright I can understand emotions are high. I'm going to bed and revisiting this when the dust settles. Wow...we've been extremely reactionary here. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 951	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:33:00 - [44] - Quote 07 Sabrewing et al Public Relations - tick tick BOOM. PSN: CallOfTheDark
Dudestay Down Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:33:00 - [45] - Quote This is the worst possible news I could ever have! My life will forever be changed! What am I to do now with my girlfriend? She ALWAYS asks about my adventures on DUST and how many people I manage to defeat! She finds me sexy as a Gallente Scout and NOW? There are no games that can replace DUST and now my girlfriend will be disappointed that I cannot teach her how to play this amazing game or have my bragging rights when I come home! This is ballin' and now I have to figure out how to break the news that one of the greatest games ever is DEAD!!!! PS My brother in law: ASSHOLES!!!! PSS Me: I am just too upset to post anything at all:( hence my girl had to do it on my behalf:( PSSS On behalf of Dust Community players: CCP you back stabbing JUDAS bastards Done saying
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1221	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:33:00 - [46] - Quote CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans. For your information, Hans constantly urged BAMM to simply share the information and not 'angle for the exclusive' on his Youtube Broadcast. BAMM spent the better half of a day trying to lord the information over many people in Skype, with Hans personally urging him to 'stop being a **** and share the information". In contrast, your 18 minute rant makes BAMM's expose at least look slightly better as he kept it relatively brief. Right now, the need for a CPM is even more pressing. CCP still have community representatives, and though what's happened is a terrible tragedy, it doesn't mean that we roll back the entire clock to having zero community representation. Keeping this information quiet was not about 'hiding' anything, it was about those who respected Saberwing's, Eterne's and the rest of the team that was laid offs privacy about outing this information in their own time. The Black Jackal for CPM1
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 135	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:35:00 - [47] - Quote Obviously all my o7's go to all the bros who got cut. It sucks big time to lose your job through no fault of your own, not just for you but for your coworkers and, in several CCP cases, your players who liked and respected you as a dev. But... Saberwing? Seriously? If there was one man at CCP who I thought had done such an amazing job as to be last on the list to be laid off, it was Saberwing. How CCP decided he was redundant or unnecessary is completely beyond me. The announcement of Project Legion was the best news I'd heard for the future of this game... this is right up there with the worst. I completely get wanting to respect the guy and keep it quiet until he was ready to say so, but like it or not it's out now, and people are hearing. I still have the utmost respect for Saberwing... who I respect a little less now is CCP for somehow deciding it was a good idea to let him go. Fly safe, Shahin. You may not be here for us anymore, but I think I speak for most if not all of the Dust community when I say we're still here for you. o7 Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 225	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:40:00 - [48] - Quote I was thinking a movie should be made about CCP and their present predicament. Then I realized somebody already did. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUdtxe2YnU But, will it have the happy ending? THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:46:00 - [49] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: I was thinking a movie should be made about CCP and their present predicament. Then I realized somebody already did. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUdtxe2YnU But, will it have the happy ending? On the other hand, this is more along the lines of how I feel.... http://youtu.be/Xwmn2pdr78M Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
Shley Ashes Commando Perkone Caldari State 155	Posted - 2014.06.08 19:55:00 - [50] - Quote This is news worse than Failfest, to lose two liked members of the community, is truly demoralising. I can only convey deep regret and wish them both the best going forward. That doesn't change the fact that this is another large blemish on CCP's bad press For 21 day EveOnline trial https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=0f1324bf-679c-420a-b7ed-c181423c1369&action=buddy

ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3056	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:08:00 - [51] - Quote Failing to see how the layoff of two community reps is relevant or even three page worthy ? Community reps, to me, seem like a dime a dozen and are replaceable... The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 137	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:15:00 - [52] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Failing to see how the layoff of two community reps is relevant or even three page worthy ? Community reps, to me, seem like a dime a dozen and are replaceable... guaranteedreplies.jpg Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3028	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:16:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Saberwing let go? ... He was pretty much the only person who instilled any amount of faith in CCP as a company for me. To see him let go as a 'removal of redundancies' all for them to bring in new community reps... wow that really stings. I'm gonna have to sit down and really reflect on whether or not its worth continuing to support CCP at all as a company... a bunch of dedicated developers led by some of the worst upper management I have seen except for the likes of Ubisoft and EA. I may have to reconsider my subscription to EVE... Best of luck Saberwing... consider it a blessing, imo.
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 163	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:19:00 - [54] - Quote What? Whats going on with CCP? 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:23:00 - [55] - Quote Captain Crutches wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Failing to see how the layoff of two community reps is relevant or even three page worthy ? Community reps, to me, seem like a dime a dozen and are replaceable... guaranteedreplies.jpg That new link. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log

CCP Falcon C C P C C P Alliance 647	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:26:00 - [56] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. "Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad." Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection. Here's your blue tagged post, and no misdirection here at all. The fact of the matter is, we're not going to go out with a megaphone and start screaming the names of people who were let go out of both personal and professional courtesy for those involved. Feel free to say what you will about professional and personal courtesy, but extremely hard decisions had to be made over the last week and on a personal note, I'm completely devastated that two fantastic members of the Community Team, and two great friends and colleagues were let go. I wish both CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing all the best for the future, and have no doubt in my mind that these two extremely talented guys will land firmly on their feet. Similarly, the CPM are also not going to start screaming names of people who were let go. The CPM is not, and never will be, a source of gossip for the community. Anyone who thinks so, can strip that mentality out of their heads. It's not going to happen. It's very true that the CPM have known about this since Friday (June 6), when I had a meeting with them at 20:00 UTC to discuss what has happened. They've acted extremely professionally over this, and have respected the fact that there are people behind these avatars, who've had their livelihoods and careers affected. I'd like to personally thank the CPM for the manner in which they've handled this news, for their display of professionalism and integrity in absorbing and dealing with this information. In the end, rest assured that development of DUST 514 and work on Project Legion remains unchanged, and will progress uninterrupted. In the same respect, the CPM will continue to function. CCP Logibro has been, and will continue to remain, the CPM Coordinator. This has been his role since he came to CCP, and will continue to be his role moving forward. He has done, and will continue to own the CPM project for as long as I remain Community Manager with CCP. The operation of, and future plans for the CPM will not be affected. If anything, going forward I'll be looking toward assisting CCP Logibro in pushing the CPM into the same, far more active role with DUST development that the CSM holds with EVE development. I do not believe that there is compromise when it comes to using the CPM's knowledge and voice to assist us. The CSM is in it's 9th term now, and there are a lot of lessons that have already been learned in the previous 8 terms that can be carried over into the operation of the CPM. On a note more concerning structure, the Community Team here at CCP has now been unified, which puts us in a position where all members of the team will now be working on community projects for DUST 514, Project Legion, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE Online going forward. The community team is now made up of: CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom I'm in the position where I hold the role of Community Manager, which will include serving as Community Manager for DUST 514 at the very least temporarily until we sit down and redefine people's roles to cover everything that needs to be considered. Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden, and we're on hand to make sure that you guys get the best experience possible. It's going to take us a little time to process all this, get over the fact that we've had to watch two really good friends and outstanding colleagues be let go, but I'm very confident that the team will pull together and deliver once we square things away. The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP. In the same respect, I'm not going to tolerate rumor milling and the posting of blatant garbage regarding the CPM, or any of my friends and colleagues, including CCP staff and members of the Community. Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums. On that note, I'll extend the same offer I do to the EVE Community, because you guys are equally as important to the future of New Eden: If you have concerns, issues, or feel like you'd like clarification, either on the forums or in private, either feel free to EVEmail my Dev character, catch me on twitter at @CCP_Falcon or catch me here on the forums, and I'm more than happy to talk. Cheers, - F CCP Falcon \|\| EVE Community Manager \|\| EVE Illuminati \|\| @CCP_Falcon

Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:33:00 - [57] - Quote Thank you CCP Falcon. This statement is sincerely appreciated. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 139	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:38:00 - [58] - Quote Thanks for the info Falcon. I know there's always a method to CCP's madness, it's just a little frustrating to not always know what that method is. The fact that you're unifying the community team tells me that you're pushing more for the unification of your games, which is great news and something I've long advocated prioritizing as it is your main selling point for Dust/Legion. I only regret that such great people like Saberwing, who was arguably the overall favorite among the community, couldn't have been kept on to continue their awesome work. Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 494	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:43:00 - [59] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. So...lose two of the good staff members we have, and.....gain 15 green card programmers who can't understand 60% of the community. awesome sauce. Support Assault changes
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1100	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:48:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Falcon's comment Falcon, First, I appreciate the response and the measured tone. I'm sorry things got to the point where you had step in on this but you posting is probably one of the best things at this point. There are a lot of folks in the community that are concerned, very understandably, about the games and the social community that sprung up around CCP over the last 10 years. That's not just the Dust side...it's the Eve side as well. This community is ultimately what keeps people with you and the connective tissue to those social connections was often guys like Eterne and Saberwing. At the bottom line, I wish CCP Saberwing and CCP Eterne the absolute best. There were an asset to the CCP and the community and seemed like genuinely excellent guys. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen

Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:54:00 - [61] - Quote I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crutches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team. CCP Falcon wrote: The community team is now made up of: CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 141	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:56:00 - [62] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crunches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team. *Crutches. I'm a cripple, not a cereal. Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9237	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:57:00 - [63] - Quote Captain Crutches wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crunches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team. Crutches. I'm a cripple, not a cereal. I thought you were a FoTM Scrub. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical.* Current Goal: Caldari Medium Dropsuits III -HAND
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 20:59:00 - [64] - Quote My apologies for that Freudian slip. I see you cannot hold a bowl of cereal and use your Crutches at the same time. This makes me sad. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 90	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:05:00 - [65] - Quote You can accuse of m@@hattery but when I hear statements such as Seasoned veteran of EVE the same courtesy I extend to EVE players redefining roles The implicit message I am getting that is subtly hidden and tucked away is this: "We're making the staff of a more EVE likened mindset which, even though none of us are Dust514 veterans but only casually play the game we will make game updates and patches that could be for the better or worse because we are basing it on what we feel is best without input from an actual veteran with feedback based on the forums that we may or may not heed". And that I feel, as horrible as I make it sound seems to be the implicit situation Dust players are going to be left standing with. If someone on the development team played Dust for over a year you wouldn't hear them say "I'm an EVE vet" but rather something I would say: "I've played both Dust and EVE for over a year". That would be a more resounding and reassuring statement and not something that teeters on making it appear confidence instilling when it really isn't. I write a lot for a living and corporate letters as well and I feel sometimes its better to not mince words and give illusions of what's not there. Dust's basic imperfections were the game imbalances and overall matchmaking AI. If you asked the playerbase they may even agree that they'd prefer resources allocated towards hotfixes, glitches and game balancing vs. content creation. Not like I'm saying you guy's aren't doing that but the presentation of how you say things and what's occurring as far as the layoff of people is not confidence instilling at all. Then again I could've been the only one to picked up on this. To somewhat paraphrase a line from LoTR's movie that I shall now mutilate for use: "I don't doubt your heart in the matter when it comes to Dust, just the overall ability to deliver on it".

CCP Falcon C C P C C P Alliance 655	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:06:00 - [66] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crutches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team. CCP Falcon wrote: The community team is now made up of: CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom CCP Mimic isn't part of the Community Team, she works elsewhere in the company, but lends the team a LOT of help when she's not too busy. Likewise, CCP Manifest is not part of the Community Team. He's our Senior PR guy, but sometimes works alongside the Community team when needed. Hope this clarifies the situation. - F CCP Falcon \|\| EVE Community Manager \|\| EVE Illuminati \|\| @CCP_Falcon

Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3182	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:09:00 - [67] - Quote Much appreciated Falcon. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log

CCP Falcon C C P C C P Alliance 658	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:11:00 - [68] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: You can accuse of m@@hattery but when I hear statements such as Seasoned veteran of EVE the same courtesy I extend to EVE players redefining roles The implicit message I am getting that is subtly hidden and tucked away is this: You might want to re-read what I posted: CCP Falcon wrote: Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden New Eden does not equal EVE. New Eden consists of all our products that are currently playable. You can read between the lines as much as you like, but when it boils down to it, it's in our best interests to have the communities of both DUST 514 and EVE in a healthy state. Argue all you like and attempt to read between the lines, but that's our objective. CCP Falcon \|\| EVE Community Manager \|\| EVE Illuminati \|\| @CCP_Falcon

BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 434	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:11:00 - [69] - Quote ok I think perhaps its time to break cover... i would like to again express my most heart felt sympathies for the losses of our Princes and thanks to CCP Frame for the clarity . i admit to not handling the information in the most tactful way as i was and still am epicly pissed when i was told and i had made this video with the permission of SaberWing, ignore the last bit of it as that was an editing fail on my part there was meant to be a whole lot more said by me stuck in there but i forgot to crop it in and just went straight for the render. I was in discussions with hans for several hours where he pointed out that perhaps a video would not have been the best way to tell the community and that perhaps a post on the forum would have been the better option, but as i see it info is info no matter the medium if this was a post it still would have caused this fire storm of snowflakes. hans told me not to post anything for 24 hours so CCP could make this announcement and prep for damage control this info would cause, sadly the timer ran out and still no post from CCP, so i regrettably posted this video to inform the community. I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions. I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain, this is information that should have been freely available on this forum and I felt I had to say or do something. BEER TIME !
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1840	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:13:00 - [70] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: The implicit message I am getting that is subtly hidden and tucked away is this: "We're making the staff of a more EVE likened mindset which, even though none of us are Dust514 veterans but only casually play the game we will make game updates and patches that could be for the better or worse because we are basing it on what we feel is best without input from an actual veteran with feedback based on the forums that we may or may not heed". I don't know if its you or me, but one of us doesn't understand what the Community Team means. The REAL Internet King

Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 469	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:20:00 - [71] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain - Multiple threads containing the same link - Youtube video, complete with eye catching title, sad music and sad bamm havoc voice - Description in video and threads "I have received some bad news", making yourself out as the whistleblower - Bragging on skype that you knew something that others didn't, even though a lot of us already knew I'm trying to be neutral to you bamm because your videos are decent and you genuinely are helpful, but this is not painting a good picture of you Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15376	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:30:00 - [72] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: ok I think perhaps its time to break cover... i would like to again express my most heart felt sympathies for the losses of our Princes and thanks to CCP Frame for the clarity . i admit to not handling the information in the most tactful way as i was and still am epicly pissed when i was told and i had made this video with the permission of SaberWing, ignore the last bit of it as that was an editing fail on my part there was meant to be a whole lot more said by me stuck in there but i forgot to crop it in and just went straight for the render. I was in discussions with hans for several hours where he pointed out that perhaps a video would not have been the best way to tell the community and that perhaps a post on the forum would have been the better option, but as i see it info is info no matter the medium if this was a post it still would have caused this fire storm of snowflakes. hans told me not to post anything for 24 hours so CCP could make this announcement and prep for damage control this info would cause, sadly the timer ran out and still no post from CCP, so i regrettably posted this video to inform the community. I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions. I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain, this is information that should have been freely available on this forum and I felt I had to say or do something. CCP Falcon =/= CCP Frame :P Overall; I do feel your video is what you claim it to be, your feelings and reaction and the raw information with a little speculation as possible. I know its not nice to hear such things; its even more worrisome to throw it out to the public in a malformed manner where nobody wins from it. You took the path of lesser damage to yourself and the community and I applaud you for at least being more grounded. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 435	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:30:00 - [73] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: BAMM HAVOC wrote: I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain - Multiple threads containing the same link - Youtube video, complete with eye catching title, sad music and sad bamm havoc voice - Description in video and threads "I have received some bad news", making yourself out as the whistleblower - Bragging on skype that you knew something that others didn't, even though a lot of us already knew I'm trying to be neutral to you bamm because your videos are decent and you genuinely are helpful, but this is not painting a good picture of you i refer you to my previous post sir and thanks BEER TIME !
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 470	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:33:00 - [74] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: BAMM HAVOC wrote: I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain - Multiple threads containing the same link - Youtube video, complete with eye catching title, sad music and sad bamm havoc voice - Description in video and threads "I have received some bad news", making yourself out as the whistleblower - Bragging on skype that you knew something that others didn't, even though a lot of us already knew I'm trying to be neutral to you bamm because your videos are decent and you genuinely are helpful, but this is not painting a good picture of you i refer you to my previous post sir and thanks the quote was from your previous post Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Alim Azard RisingSuns Dark Taboo 0	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:36:00 - [75] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. "Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad." Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection. Here's your blue tagged post, and no misdirection here at all. The fact of the matter is, we're not going to go out with a megaphone and start screaming the names of people who were let go out of both personal and professional courtesy for those involved. Feel free to say what you will about professional and personal courtesy, but extremely hard decisions had to be made over the last week and on a personal note, I'm completely devastated that two fantastic members of the Community Team, and two great friends and colleagues were let go. I wish both CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing all the best for the future, and have no doubt in my mind that these two extremely talented guys will land firmly on their feet. Similarly, the CPM are also not going to start screaming names of people who were let go. The CPM is not, and never will be, a source of gossip for the community. Anyone who thinks so, can strip that mentality out of their heads. It's not going to happen. It's very true that the CPM have known about this since Friday (June 6), when I had a meeting with them at 20:00 UTC to discuss what has happened. They've acted extremely professionally over this, and have respected the fact that there are people behind these avatars, who've had their livelihoods and careers affected. I'd like to personally thank the CPM for the manner in which they've handled this news, for their display of professionalism and integrity in absorbing and dealing with this information. In the end, rest assured that development of DUST 514 and work on Project Legion remains unchanged, and will progress uninterrupted. In the same respect, the CPM will continue to function. CCP Logibro has been, and will continue to remain, the CPM Coordinator. This has been his role since he came to CCP, and will continue to be his role moving forward. He has done, and will continue to own the CPM project for as long as I remain Community Manager with CCP. The operation of, and future plans for the CPM will not be affected. If anything, going forward I'll be looking toward assisting CCP Logibro in pushing the CPM into the same, far more active role with DUST development that the CSM holds with EVE development. I do not believe that there is compromise when it comes to using the CPM's knowledge and voice to assist us. The CSM is in it's 9th term now, and there are a lot of lessons that have already been learned in the previous 8 terms that can be carried over into the operation of the CPM. On a note more concerning structure, the Community Team here at CCP has now been unified, which puts us in a position where all members of the team will now be working on community projects for DUST 514, Project Legion, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE Online going forward. The community team is now made up of: CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom I'm in the position where I hold the role of Community Manager, which will include serving as Community Manager for DUST 514 at the very least temporarily until we sit down and redefine people's roles to cover everything that needs to be considered. Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden, and we're on hand to make sure that you guys get the best experience possible. It's going to take us a little time to process all this, get over the fact that we've had to watch two really good friends and outstanding colleagues be let go, but I'm very confident that the team will pull together and deliver once we square things away. The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP. In the same respect, I'm not going to tolerate rumor milling and the posting of blatant garbage regarding the CPM, or any of my friends and colleagues, including CCP staff and members of the Community. Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums. On that note, I'll extend the same offer I do to the EVE Community, because you guys are equally as important to the future of New Eden: If you have concerns, issues, or feel like you'd like clarification, either on the forums or in private, either feel free to EVEmail my Dev character, catch me on twitter at @CCP_Falcon or catch me here on the forums, and I'm more than happy to talk. Cheers, - F Becasue we can trust your lying ass when it comes to people loosing their jobs. Lets ask the WoD team, who you Verified were not loosing their jobs to both their families, them and the community at large 2 ******* days before CCP announced they were terminated.
TunRa The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 627	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:48:00 - [76] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta... You took my gif, back to FoxFour
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3030	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:48:00 - [77] - Quote Really... all I read these posts from Falcon is that "We're offloading the community representation of Dust 514/Legion to the Eve team, where they can put in whatever 'extra time' they have to Dust." Its essentially an admission that Dust is dead and Legion (if its greenlit) will not be a standalone game, but more of a 'sidebar action game' for their more important player base set, their EVE subscribers. It would be foolish for anyone to expect that this does not mean significantly diminished player-dev interaction for CCPs non-Eve: Online games. It doesn't surprise me that this is happening for Valkyrie... consider their lack of PC support for that game will result in a player base about as large as Dust will have when it releases, but it does give a surprising admission to what they expect for Legion imo. i can't say I'm surprised or even all that upset about it though, it was pretty much what we were all thinking, its just an official announcement to that effect.
Grimmiers 578	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:49:00 - [78] - Quote Damn I was looking forward to saberwings live dev interviews. o7 to everyone let go.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15378	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:51:00 - [79] - Quote TunRa wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta... In reality its Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X-ray Yankee Zulu. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14283	Posted - 2014.06.08 21:55:00 - [80] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TunRa wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta... In reality its Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X-ray Yankee Zulu. Yep. I'm pretty sure it's already been mentioned as 'Bravo' rather than 'Beta' so there goes the Greek alphabet theory. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1811	Posted - 2014.06.08 22:09:00 - [81] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: ok I think perhaps its time to break cover... i would like to again express my most heart felt sympathies for the losses of our Princes and thanks to CCP Frame for the clarity . i admit to not handling the information in the most tactful way as i was and still am epicly pissed when i was told and i had made this video with the permission of SaberWing, ignore the last bit of it as that was an editing fail on my part there was meant to be a whole lot more said by me stuck in there but i forgot to crop it in and just went straight for the render. I was in discussions with hans for several hours where he pointed out that perhaps a video would not have been the best way to tell the community and that perhaps a post on the forum would have been the better option, but as i see it info is info no matter the medium if this was a post it still would have caused this fire storm of snowflakes. hans told me not to post anything for 24 hours so CCP could make this announcement and prep for damage control this info would cause, sadly the timer ran out and still no post from CCP, so i regrettably posted this video to inform the community. I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions. I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain, this is information that should have been freely available on this forum and I felt I had to say or do something. I'm really not surprised to see even more lies out of Pyrex, its his modus operandi - but I didn't expect them from you as well. Our conversation took place yesterday at 6pm Pacific time, and you posted this video roughly 16 hours later. But that's besides the point, you gave me your word that you'd let Falcon make the statement he had to make in this thread, before jumping the gun. We both agreed that it was better that CCP break the news and explain rather than you or Pyrex trying to play Mr. Breaking News. Regardless of the fact that you didn't wait even a full day before your post, there was no "24 hour" time limit discussed anyways. It's not my job to give permission or not, this was always CCP's news, not mine, not yours. All I ever asked was for you to be respectful to those involved by allowing our contacts in community team (Falcon and Logibro) make their announcement. You agreed to this, and than broke that trust. I'm saddened and disappointed, even moreso now that you're lying about the circumstances just to defend your mistake. I at least appreciate your apology on that front, for what its worth.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1524	Posted - 2014.06.08 22:15:00 - [82] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums. Moody is good for Dust. Banning Moody would be bad for Dust. Please don't ban Moody :-) BAMM HAVOC wrote: I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions. No apology needed, friend. Your heart's in the right place. o7 Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 437	Posted - 2014.06.08 23:27:00 - [83] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: I'm really not surprised to see even more lies out of Pyrex, its his modus operandi - but I didn't expect them from you as well. Our conversation took place yesterday at 6pm Pacific time, and you posted this video roughly 16 hours later. But that's besides the point, you gave me your word that you'd let Falcon make the statement he had to make in this thread, before jumping the gun. We both agreed that it was better that CCP break the news and explain rather than you or Pyrex trying to play Mr. Breaking News. Regardless of the fact that you didn't wait even a full day before your post, there was no "24 hour" time limit discussed anyways. It's not my job to give permission or not, this was always CCP's news, not mine, not yours. All I ever asked was for you to be respectful to those involved by allowing our contacts in community team (Falcon and Logibro) make their announcement. You agreed to this, and than broke that trust. I'm saddened and disappointed, even moreso now that you're lying about the circumstances just to defend your mistake. I at least appreciate your apology on that front, for what its worth. You have called me a coward and a liar, crossed the line there hans ... All i did was call it as i saw it, leave pyrex out of this the decision was ultimately mine at the end of the day, the info was saberwings to share and he did so with me and i had his permission to use and express it in ANY form i saw fit. You had no say in how I delivered it, this fire storm of special snowflakes would have happen regardless of the medium I released it, Hans give me a break you have said some very unkind things here dude, i have apologised more than once now on many forms of media for my lack of tact which I might point out was my ONLY fault with this issue. I am not going to apologise any more . BEER TIME !
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3030	Posted - 2014.06.08 23:39:00 - [84] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: You have called me a coward and a liar, crossed the line there hans ... All i did was call it as i saw it, leave pyrex out of this the decision was ultimately mine at the end of the day, the info was saberwings to share and he did so with me and i had his permission to use and express it in ANY form i saw fit. You had no say in how I delivered it, this fire storm of special snowflakes would have happen regardless of the medium I released it, Hans give me a break you have said some very unkind things here dude, i have apologised more than once now on many forms of media for my lack of tact which I might point out was my ONLY fault with this issue. I am not going to apologise any more . You don't owe him anything BAMM. As a player it was your choice and right to disclose this information however you wish. It was courteous of you to ask saberwing but that's the extent of it.
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 178	Posted - 2014.06.08 23:52:00 - [85] - Quote Calling out ALL the CPM's as community traitors sounds fair to me as nobody of them has ever represented a clear community view. They just kept on feeding us bs as CCP have for the past year. CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian
Tesfa Alem ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.06.09 00:26:00 - [86] - Quote 07 Saberwing. Also 07 for Bamm Havoc for making a tribute video about someone he knew who lost thier job. With saberwings blessings of course, so when the only person that matters in this context is cool with it, Just leave it at that. Anyways i wish the best for everyone who lost thier jobs under no fault of their own. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. CPM1 Candidate
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2014.06.09 00:28:00 - [87] - Quote TunRa wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta... Thinks its confirmed for bravo charlie delta Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
Michael Arck 4647	Posted - 2014.06.09 00:35:00 - [88] - Quote "I'm in a glass case of emotionnnn!" Wow. This thread was a rollercoaster. First time I've read every post in the thread word for word. Let me say that I wish Saberwing and Eterne the best. I always appreciated Saberwing's presence on the forums. He was one of us and his enthusiasm was infectious. I wish both gentlemen the best and I thank them for their contributions. Both performed well at their duties and surely will be missed. Every relationship, no matter what it is, has its bumps in the road. It's how we proceed forward that defines us. Thank you CCP Falcon for displaying tact in your post and for clearing things up for the community. Though we may have different viewpoints, backgrounds and ideas, one thing remains surely remains. That we all want Dust to succeed. Some things get lost in translation, but we can set aside these differences and contribute positively to help the absolute vision of Dust come into fruition. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Heinrich Jagerblitzen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1815	Posted - 2014.06.09 00:56:00 - [89] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Every relationship, no matter what it is, has its bumps in the road. It's how we proceed forward that defines us. Thank you CCP Falcon for displaying tact in your post and for clearing things up for the community. Though we may have different viewpoints, backgrounds and ideas, one thing remains surely remains. That we all want Dust to succeed. Some things get lost in translation, but we can set aside these differences and contribute positively to help the absolute vision of Dust come into fruition. Thank you so much for this, very eloquently stated and I agree completely. My own frustration with this situation stems mainly from the fact that I see so much work to do ahead, and know that life is going to go on for both Dust and Legion regardless of the setbacks. And regardless of the false claims that there's no support for the community or the CPM moving forward. My tolerance for misinformation is low, and I will always aggressively defend the truth - but it all comes from a passion for the game and this community. You're also absolutely right that any personal friction between me and BAMM also comes from that same passion for the game and community. BAMM's sadness and anger in the video is real, and I applaud his willingness to be vulnerable like that, even if we have our differences of opinion surrounding the circumstances. I'm always going to value his contributions and I hope (and know) he's going to be sticking around like the rest of us to continue that good work. Disputes are common in periods of mourning, and I think its fair to say that's everyone's frame of mind right now and we're all suffering that burden. I've spoken with BAMM privately again and let him know I'm not out to burn any bridges or hold grudges, and I understand that there wasn't any malice or disrespect intended in the way this was handled. The feeling is mutual, of course. I want to also thank CCP Falcon for stopping by and for his detailed explanation of the circumstances, this was always my goal throughout these events - even when arguing with BAMM. It's vital for the community to fully understand the transition inside CCP as soon as possible, preferably straight from the source and free from hyperbole. Now that its done and out in the open, I've no more to say about the issue. It's time to just let this heal and to get back to working on improving Dust. o7
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2877	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:06:00 - [90] - Quote My Goodness, I haven't been here a while, I didn't even know! My sincerest sympathies to Saberwing and Eterne. As for DUST it's self it was only a matter of time, they shot it in the foot, they were going to have to finish the job sooner or later! Looks like its back to FPS Military Shooter 56 Monkey Mac - Just another pile of discarded ashes on the battlefield!

Michael Arck 4650	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:10:00 - [91] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Every relationship, no matter what it is, has its bumps in the road. It's how we proceed forward that defines us. Thank you CCP Falcon for displaying tact in your post and for clearing things up for the community. Though we may have different viewpoints, backgrounds and ideas, one thing remains surely remains. That we all want Dust to succeed. Some things get lost in translation, but we can set aside these differences and contribute positively to help the absolute vision of Dust come into fruition. Thank you so much for this, very eloquently stated and I agree completely. My own frustration with this situation stems mainly from the fact that I see so much work to do ahead, and know that life is going to go on for both Dust and Legion regardless of the setbacks. And regardless of the false claims that there's no support for the community or the CPM moving forward. My tolerance for misinformation is low, and I will always aggressively defend the truth - but it all comes from a passion for the game and this community. You're also absolutely right that any personal friction between me and BAMM also comes from that same passion for the game and community. BAMM's sadness and anger in the video is real, and I applaud his willingness to be vulnerable like that, even if we have our differences of opinion surrounding the circumstances. I'm always going to value his contributions and I hope (and know) he's going to be sticking around like the rest of us to continue that good work. Disputes are common in periods of mourning, and I think its fair to say that's everyone's frame of mind right now and we're all suffering that burden. I've spoken with BAMM privately again and let him know I'm not out to burn any bridges or hold grudges, and I understand that there wasn't any malice or disrespect intended in the way this was handled. The feeling is mutual, of course. I want to also thank CCP Falcon for stopping by and for his detailed explanation of the circumstances, this was always my goal throughout these events - even when arguing with BAMM. It's vital for the community to fully understand the transition inside CCP as soon as possible, preferably straight from the source and free from hyperbole. Now that its done and out in the open, I've no more to say about the issue. It's time to just let this heal and to get back to working on improving Dust. o7 I'm glad you guys were able to straighten things out amongst each other. And its nice to read that your understanding of the core is there. That's the kind of stuff we expect from our CPMs. Really appreciate that. And Bamm, hey man, my viewing on you hasn't changed. You contribute some great things to the community and I look forward to more of your videos. I honestly feel better about this whole situation. Now I can breathe a sigh of relief. The end result to this is much better than the beginning and I'm proud to be a part of this community. o7 to all. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4361	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:15:00 - [92] - Quote Remember guys, those layoffs have not effected Dust 514 or Legion development at all.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3058	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:25:00 - [93] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP. Now this is truly rich.. Quote: sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward This is coming from the guy who rushed onto Reddict and openly lied during the CCP Atlanta fiasco, revolving around the layoff/ cancellation of WoD. The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9240	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:26:00 - [94] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Remember guys, those layoffs have not effected Dust 514 or Legion development at all. The sad part about this post is that it implies that there is DUST 514 development left to effect... Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Current Goal: Caldari Medium Dropsuits III -HAND
Boomer Dues Mortis Shining Flame Amarr Empire 218	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:51:00 - [95] - Quote http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/05/eve-online-developer-ccp-hit-by-big-layoffs "Development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and 'Project Legion' are not impacted by the restructuring." Hey CCP can you guys do anything except lie??? This is why no one trusts anything you guys say because 95% of it is a lie or misdirection. Yet you guys seem to be really damn good at trying to sell Omega Boosters and Aur. I did not see eye to eye with Saberwing mainly on the issue of him saying it was racist to say that the Dust 514 team was bad at codding, but I feel sorry that that he and others lost their jobs, because that hurts them and their family and that is never a good thing. I wish those laid off nothing but the best and hopefully they can find work at a better managed company.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5991	Posted - 2014.06.09 02:54:00 - [96] - Quote CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans. Never ceases to amaze me at just how good you are at getting the community riled up about something that doesn't exist. It's kind of sad that propaganda only works on the gullible but since I'm ousting a portion of the community itself, let me give you a sneak peek at something the "Evil Fortress of Candidate Collusion" has been working on for the past few days. Not a damn thing. Now, back to you, since this is turning out to as ridiculous as a men's body wash commercial. Pyrex, to me, you're like Snopes. A lot of people think you're a reliable source of information for all the wrong reasons. No-one investigates the information you provide, they just take it as fact. When in reality, like Snopes, you: a) Don't provide reference material to any of the claims you make b) Have a reputation for being a reliable source of information, despite the only justifiable reasoning for that being a something you did years ago, and because you said so. (videos you made back in the day before you donned the title "Sir Tin Foil") c) Are rather hypocritical, which anyone can see if they just read between the lines (listen to one of your videos for five minutes and then actually play with you (Prototype suits in Pubs, for instance)) d) Insanely bias, despite many attempts at trying to pass off that you're not. On the other hand, I can't help but admire the way you take something that no-one can feasibly investigate and then turn it into something fishy. For instance "confirming that Hans has known for a long time and told BAMM". How can you confirm that, exactly? Are you psychic? Did you bug one of their computers? Did you grab a Twitch Livestream Code and use it without their knowing? How on -EARTH- can confirm this information at all? To which I can only assume that your lack of responding to this thread there-in afterward is a sure sign that you weren't ready to deal with the backlash of being called out on your BS despite -KNOWING- it was BS. And then you go on to say that he "he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly". How can you make this claim? What evidence do you have that it happened other than "Pyrex said so"? You know what I see when I look at that post? Just another Youtuber getting bent out of shape over a competitor releasing the information before you did - which doesn't necessarily make you right it just means that you, like him, are just as egotistical in trying to turn something rather heartbreaking into a publicity stunt. Which is to say that it's all you ever do in the first place, using the bullet points I demonstrated earlier. I swear, if your followers had the sense to look at some of the wording you use in your arguments and actually think two steps ahead, considering whether there's any validity to your claims instead of just blindly believing in it all, you'd be the only person in the community that feels the way you do about 90% of the conspiracy theories you have. Not that I honestly think you're going to read this since you haven't even taken the time to respond to any of the other comments aimed at your little circus act. So, I'mma go have a beer and stick my head in the sand since it works so well for you (albeit, generally helps to see when you're about to get hit from behind). Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15387	Posted - 2014.06.09 03:17:00 - [97] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CEOPyrex CloneA wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans. Never ceases to amaze me at just how good you are at getting the community riled up about something that doesn't exist. It's kind of sad that propaganda only works on the gullible but since I'm ousting a portion of the community itself, let me give you a sneak peek at something the "Evil Fortress of Candidate Collusion" has been working on for the past few days. Not a damn thing. Now, back to you, since this is turning out to as ridiculous as a men's body wash commercial. Pyrex, to me, you're like Snopes. A lot of people think you're a reliable source of information for all the wrong reasons. No-one investigates the information you provide, they just take it as fact. When in reality, like Snopes, you: a) Don't provide reference material to any of the claims you make b) Have a reputation for being a reliable source of information, despite the only justifiable reasoning for that being a something you did years ago, and because you said so. (videos you made back in the day before you donned the title "Sir Tin Foil") c) Are rather hypocritical, which anyone can see if they just read between the lines (listen to one of your videos for five minutes and then actually play with you (Prototype suits in Pubs, for instance)) d) Insanely bias, despite many attempts at trying to pass off that you're not. On the other hand, I can't help but admire the way you take something that no-one can feasibly investigate and then turn it into something fishy. For instance "confirming that Hans has known for a long time and told BAMM". How can you confirm that, exactly? Are you psychic? Did you bug one of their computers? Did you grab a Twitch Livestream Code and use it without their knowing? How on -EARTH- can confirm this information at all? To which I can only assume that your lack of responding to this thread there-in afterward is a sure sign that you weren't ready to deal with the backlash of being called out on your BS despite -KNOWING- it was BS. And then you go on to say that he "he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly". How can you make this claim? What evidence do you have that it happened other than "Pyrex said so"? You know what I see when I look at that post? Just another Youtuber getting bent out of shape over a competitor releasing the information before you did - which doesn't necessarily make you right it just means that you, like him, are just as egotistical in trying to turn something rather heartbreaking into a publicity stunt. Which is to say that it's all you ever do in the first place, using the bullet points I demonstrated earlier. I swear, if your followers had the sense to look at some of the wording you use in your arguments and actually think two steps ahead, considering whether there's any validity to your claims instead of just blindly believing in it all, you'd be the only person in the community that feels the way you do about 90% of the conspiracy theories you have. Not that I honestly think you're going to read this since you haven't even taken the time to respond to any of the other comments aimed at your little circus act. So, I'mma go have a beer and stick my head in the sand since it works so well for you (albeit, generally helps to see when you're about to get hit from behind). Aeon for CPM 1 Chairman. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5992	Posted - 2014.06.09 04:24:00 - [98] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aeon for CPM 1 Chairman. LOL Thanks IWS, if elected I'll make sure that the Evil Fortress and our archive of Nefarious Schemes is properly dusted Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2679	Posted - 2014.06.09 05:06:00 - [99] - Quote So, tonight we had BAMM, Hans, and Aeon all on Biomassed, and of course, this topic was discussed. Episode six is up now, and you can find it here: http://biomassed.net/podcast or on iTunes. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp Covert Intervention 541	Posted - 2014.06.09 05:49:00 - [100] - Quote Drama aside, o7 to Saberwing and all of the axed employees. I thank you all for the work you have done, and wish you all the best of luck moving towards. To CCP falcon, I saw you posted the current community team, for Dust (and legion? I'm not really sure). My question is, how many of them regularly look through the forums, and post. I'm not talking about official, drawn out posts, but short, unofficial posts in which they answer questions we ask, or just to post something funny. And to the CPM0s, it seems like you guys are just random players. I've seen altim more than I've seen most of you in game, and on the forums (and I've only seen altim twice in game...) so I don't put any more stock in your statements than I do anyone else's. P.S. I'm delusional right now... -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando

Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 125	Posted - 2014.06.09 05:52:00 - [101] - Quote Sorry to hear these community members are now gone. This thread is so full of vomit, misdirection and unprofessionalism. WELCOME TO THE FUTURE OF DUST!!
Michael Arck 4657	Posted - 2014.06.09 06:10:00 - [102] - Quote Actually, there has been alot of professionalism. This thread could have went way south but cooler heads prevailed on both sides of the accord. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3034	Posted - 2014.06.09 06:11:00 - [103] - Quote Just listened to your comments on the Biomassed podcast BAMM. 100% agree with you. Absolutely no reason for CPM 1 to exist until Eve: Legion is ready for it. Dust 514 has absolutely no need for a CPM.
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 475	Posted - 2014.06.09 06:41:00 - [104] - Quote Boomer Dues Mortis wrote: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/05/eve-online-developer-ccp-hit-by-big-layoffs "Development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and 'Project Legion' are not impacted by the restructuring." Hey CCP can you guys do anything except lie??? This is why no one trusts anything you guys say because 95% of it is a lie or misdirection. Yet you guys seem to be really damn good at trying to sell Omega Boosters and Aur. I did not see eye to eye with Saberwing mainly on the issue of him saying it was racist to say that the Dust 514 team was bad at codding, but I feel sorry that that he and others lost their jobs, because that hurts them and their family and that is never a good thing. I wish those laid off nothing but the best and hopefully they can find work at a better managed company. Saberwing and Eterne were not developers, Saber was CM and Eterne was lore Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4365	Posted - 2014.06.09 07:08:00 - [105] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: Boomer Dues Mortis wrote: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/05/eve-online-developer-ccp-hit-by-big-layoffs "Development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and 'Project Legion' are not impacted by the restructuring." Hey CCP can you guys do anything except lie??? This is why no one trusts anything you guys say because 95% of it is a lie or misdirection. Yet you guys seem to be really damn good at trying to sell Omega Boosters and Aur. I did not see eye to eye with Saberwing mainly on the issue of him saying it was racist to say that the Dust 514 team was bad at codding, but I feel sorry that that he and others lost their jobs, because that hurts them and their family and that is never a good thing. I wish those laid off nothing but the best and hopefully they can find work at a better managed company. Saberwing and Eterne were not developers, Saber was CM and Eterne was lore Lore is part of game development. All concepts, working or otherwise, are based around the lore. Community Manager acquires useful information and good feedback, filters bad feedback, and does everything to keep community happy. Both are incredibly important to the development of a game.

CCP Blowout C C P C C P Alliance 932	Posted - 2014.06.09 08:20:00 - [106] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: My question is, how many of them regularly look through the forums, and post. Thing is, it is probably a little more than you might think - even if they are not posting in a lot of threads, many devs do read and interact. Just want to echo the sentiments here that we are sorry to see our good friends go, but that we can't comment on personnel matters, so you might not get us weighing in on specifics as much as you might like. CCP Falcon did a great job in his post and I do want to express my sincere faith in Logibro, Frame and the rest of the crew. And of course once this seriouspost is over I'll go back to trolling the rest of the gang on the forums. Part man, part Internet.

Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 475	Posted - 2014.06.09 09:20:00 - [107] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Tech De Ra wrote: Boomer Dues Mortis wrote: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/05/eve-online-developer-ccp-hit-by-big-layoffs "Development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and 'Project Legion' are not impacted by the restructuring." Hey CCP can you guys do anything except lie??? This is why no one trusts anything you guys say because 95% of it is a lie or misdirection. Yet you guys seem to be really damn good at trying to sell Omega Boosters and Aur. I did not see eye to eye with Saberwing mainly on the issue of him saying it was racist to say that the Dust 514 team was bad at codding, but I feel sorry that that he and others lost their jobs, because that hurts them and their family and that is never a good thing. I wish those laid off nothing but the best and hopefully they can find work at a better managed company. Saberwing and Eterne were not developers, Saber was CM and Eterne was lore Lore is part of game development. All concepts, working or otherwise, are based around the lore. Community Manager acquires useful information and good feedback, filters bad feedback, and does everything to keep community happy. Both are incredibly important to the development of a game. Yep, they are important, but they are still not part of the development team Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 254	Posted - 2014.06.09 10:20:00 - [108] - Quote T'is is a damn shame, all the best to the both of them. While ccp may think their positions have become redundant somewhere i think DUST514 as it stands and possibly legion would have been better of with Saberwin in it's ranks. Although many dev's read and take note of a lot of the forum post's it's the actual interaction and the "popping-his-head-in" threads that made Saberwing a good asset i think. Also the interviews he wanted to set up were just good community interaction. Allround very engaging and nice guy. While they are not dev's as you say, i think their role was a very important one and why upper management thought this was a good idea is beyond me. With that said good luck to those that get their workload thrown on their desk. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Paulus Phen502 6	Posted - 2014.06.09 11:06:00 - [109] - Quote After what happened at fanfest my first thought was I wished this had been CCP ROUGE, sorry it's just the truth about how I felt. How the player base was treated with the keynote(on purpose and with disregard and malice) makes it no surprise that something would go down this way again. You tubers shouldn't be putting this stuff out(though they are a type of media and may feel responsible to report the facts) and we actually like to hear peoples honest reaction and over reactions, that's real, but a CPM shouldn't have to hold something back forever either, hence it's probably best that Bamm went ahead and put it out, next time just release the info before it becomes public knowledge CCP. Bad news is better when treated with honesty and disclosure, you wanted to create a community, and you did, and look how much we care. Why weren't you honest and overflowing with reasons at the Rouge wedding? Why weren't you here? I still don't know what your future plans are for DUST(how long are you going to TRY and keep it around and so on, what are you trying to carry over to Project Legion, will district control crossover, ect and ect). Look don't create a community and then try and conceal your real plans and goals from it. Guys just had to be let go, tell us, or let the CPMs relate it to us or just shut down all communication to us for good and let us create our own forums and community ourself, where honest thoughts,opinions, and gossip can flourish even if it ain't true. We all would have been better to have never got involved in this game than to be treated the way we were and fanfest. Whoever thought up that debacle should be the one who loses their job first in my opinion(and I know there are a whole lot of people who agree with me). See I'm being up front(American phrase meaning purposely truthful) about what I'm thinking and feeling and people might not like it but no ones gonna think I'm a coward or dishonest about it, And if my opinion changes I'll try and be upfront about it then, see how that works, not hard just real. I don't have all the answers and I can live with being wrong or too honest and so can you guys. That's called a close knit community and that's GOOD for business not back stabbing and playing political scheming. But whatever, I plan on playing this game until the server gets shut down because I have made friends and a brotherhood with fellow players. This game may not matter to you guys anymore(I honestly don't know and can't tell) but you can't make it not matter to me. That's my big protest, I'll care if I want too, and you can't turn that off or make me buy Aurum to make care more or less. I already have an Omega booster for that and it runs out when I say so and you can't Nerf it either! "There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 180	Posted - 2014.06.09 11:11:00 - [110] - Quote I feel robbed but I did not claim a refund from Sony. Its my own fault for believing in CCP. CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian

Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1056	Posted - 2014.06.09 11:34:00 - [111] - Quote Shame on you CCP. Saberwing was a great CM, and did a great job here. When the community has (rightly) been furious at CCP, he was the one that had to show up and take the flak. It was his job, but he did it in the best possible way. I hope he can find a new job soon, and at least, he wont have to put up with CCP (and us) anymore.
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3187	Posted - 2014.06.09 12:10:00 - [112] - Quote I'm scratching my head again at the role CCP Blowout is now serving. Is this Internet God a community manager, junior manager, or just does brilliant forum trolls in spare work time? Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9254	Posted - 2014.06.09 12:16:00 - [113] - Quote Paulus Phen502 wrote: After what happened at fanfest my first thought was I wished this had been CCP ROUGE, sorry it's just the truth about how I felt. How the player base was treated with the keynote(on purpose and with disregard and malice) makes it no surprise that something would go down this way again. You tubers shouldn't be putting this stuff out(though they are a type of media and may feel responsible to report the facts) and we actually like to hear peoples honest reaction and over reactions, that's real, but a CPM shouldn't have to hold something back forever either, hence it's probably best that Bamm went ahead and put it out, next time just release the info before it becomes public knowledge CCP. Bad news is better when treated with honesty and disclosure, you wanted to create a community, and you did, and look how much we care. Why weren't you honest and overflowing with reasons at the Rouge wedding? Why weren't you here? I still don't know what your future plans are for DUST(how long are you going to TRY and keep it around and so on, what are you trying to carry over to Project Legion, will district control crossover, ect and ect). Look don't create a community and then try and conceal your real plans and goals from it. Guys just had to be let go, tell us, or let the CPMs relate it to us or just shut down all communication to us for good and let us create our own forums and community ourself, where honest thoughts,opinions, and gossip can flourish even if it ain't true. We all would have been better to have never got involved in this game than to be treated the way we were and fanfest. Whoever thought up that debacle should be the one who loses their job first in my opinion(and I know there are a whole lot of people who agree with me). See I'm being up front(American phrase meaning purposely truthful) about what I'm thinking and feeling and people might not like it but no ones gonna think I'm a coward or dishonest about it, And if my opinion changes I'll try and be upfront about it then, see how that works, not hard just real. I don't have all the answers and I can live with being wrong or too honest and so can you guys. That's called a close knit community and that's GOOD for business not back stabbing and playing political scheming. But whatever, I plan on playing this game until the server gets shut down because I have made friends and a brotherhood with fellow players. This game may not matter to you guys anymore(I honestly don't know and can't tell) but you can't make it not matter to me. That's my big protest, I'll care if I want too, and you can't turn that off or make me buy Aurum to make care more or less. I already have an Omega booster for that and it runs out when I say so and you can't Nerf it either! +1 Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. I've run out of stuff to spec into :( -HAND
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4012	Posted - 2014.06.09 12:53:00 - [114] - Quote Paulus Phen502 wrote: After what happened at fanfest my first thought was I wished this had been CCP ROUGE, sorry it's just the truth about how I felt. How the player base was treated with the keynote(on purpose and with disregard and malice) makes it no surprise that something would go down this way again. You tubers shouldn't be putting this stuff out(though they are a type of media and may feel responsible to report the facts) and we actually like to hear peoples honest reaction and over reactions, that's real, but a CPM shouldn't have to hold something back forever either, hence it's probably best that Bamm went ahead and put it out, next time just release the info before it becomes public knowledge CCP. Bad news is better when treated with honesty and disclosure, you wanted to create a community, and you did, and look how much we care. Why weren't you honest and overflowing with reasons at the Rouge wedding? Why weren't you here? I still don't know what your future plans are for DUST(how long are you going to TRY and keep it around and so on, what are you trying to carry over to Project Legion, will district control crossover, ect and ect). Look don't create a community and then try and conceal your real plans and goals from it. Guys just had to be let go, tell us, or let the CPMs relate it to us or just shut down all communication to us for good and let us create our own forums and community ourself, where honest thoughts,opinions, and gossip can flourish even if it ain't true. We all would have been better to have never got involved in this game than to be treated the way we were and fanfest. Whoever thought up that debacle should be the one who loses their job first in my opinion(and I know there are a whole lot of people who agree with me). See I'm being up front(American phrase meaning purposely truthful) about what I'm thinking and feeling and people might not like it but no ones gonna think I'm a coward or dishonest about it, And if my opinion changes I'll try and be upfront about it then, see how that works, not hard just real. I don't have all the answers and I can live with being wrong or too honest and so can you guys. That's called a close knit community and that's GOOD for business not back stabbing and playing political scheming. But whatever, I plan on playing this game until the server gets shut down because I have made friends and a brotherhood with fellow players. This game may not matter to you guys anymore(I honestly don't know and can't tell) but you can't make it not matter to me. That's my big protest, I'll care if I want too, and you can't turn that off or make me buy Aurum to make care more or less. I already have an Omega booster for that and it runs out when I say so and you can't Nerf it either! I wish Playstation Plus had never downloaded Dust 514 that is for sure. Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 451	Posted - 2014.06.09 12:54:00 - [115] - Quote Good luck to you Saberwing and Eterne - sorry that you are gone. respec Bamm As for the whole way the news broke lol - maybe I missed it though I read every post but - CCP don't tell only CPM this news, tell us all directly.....or CPM, why would you tell non-CPM? Too many comms channels with bits and pieces flying around. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1058	Posted - 2014.06.09 13:38:00 - [116] - Quote Edited. I don't care anymore tbh. I'm just going to say that the way the CPM has acted in this thread needed a bit more of Pssssh! and CCP could use a little more Ooommmph! and Zooooozmm!
Sigourney Reever Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 39	Posted - 2014.06.09 19:59:00 - [117] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Likewise, CCP Manifest is not part of the Community Team. He's our Senior PR guy, but sometimes works alongside the Community team when needed. Hope this clarifies the situation. - F If anyone should be out of a job... ^^ this guy. At this point (following Dust since '09) your corporate communications rival only Microsoft and perhaps the NSA. What complete Maroons.
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II 0uter.Heaven 113	Posted - 2014.06.09 20:16:00 - [118] - Quote tools
low genius The Sound Of Freedom 1968	Posted - 2014.06.09 21:14:00 - [119] - Quote if praetorian gets laid off, i might think of playing a ccp title again. notice i said title, not service. 10 year development plan. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Canari Elphus 1687	Posted - 2014.06.09 21:26:00 - [120] - Quote Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends because when Im board. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones. Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP. Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person Step 3 - Hype Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources) It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something. PSN - ShallowGravez - Destiny here we come...

soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 903	Posted - 2014.06.09 22:49:00 - [121] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im board. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones. Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP. Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person Step 3 - Hype Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources) It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something. Same here, only once in a blue moon will i log in. I mostly just avoid the biomass to talk anime.
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 184	Posted - 2014.06.09 22:51:00 - [122] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im board. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones. Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP. Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person Step 3 - Hype Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources) It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something. Well said. Remember the saying "Welcome to New Eden."? I think most DUST players understand what that means now too. CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. 1616	Posted - 2014.06.09 23:58:00 - [123] - Quote Dare I ask....? Is... GM Unicorn.... still with us? Eterne & Unicorn were the two I spoke to the most when I first started Dust..... ='( Aeon..... I'ma join you in the bottle tonight... PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1
low genius The Sound Of Freedom 1968	Posted - 2014.06.10 00:16:00 - [124] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im bored. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones. Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP. Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person Step 3 - Hype Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources) It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something. yeah, i'm looking at ps4 for warthunder and that bungie title, then eternal crusade next year for the MAG but bigger experience. valkyrie can smoke a ****. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 164	Posted - 2014.06.10 00:26:00 - [125] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: My question is, how many of them regularly look through the forums, and post. Thing is, it is probably a little more than you might think - even if they are not posting in a lot of threads, many devs do read and interact. Just want to echo the sentiments here that we are sorry to see our good friends go, but that we can't comment on personnel matters, so you might not get us weighing in on specifics as much as you might like. CCP Falcon did a great job in his post and I do want to express my sincere faith in Logibro, Frame and the rest of the crew. And of course once this seriouspost is over I'll go back to trolling the rest of the gang on the forums. The only Dev to ever steal my heart.... <3 RIP MAG, you will be missed. MAG Vet ~ Raven
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 164	Posted - 2014.06.10 00:29:00 - [126] - Quote Goddamnit, stupid internet hiccup caused me to double post.... WELL PLAYED BLOWOUT! WELL PLAYED YOU SNEAKY SONOFABITCH! <3 RIP MAG, you will be missed. MAG Vet ~ Raven
Canari Elphus 1691	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:00:00 - [127] - Quote low genius wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im bored. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones. Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP. Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person Step 3 - Hype Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources) It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something. yeah, i'm looking at ps4 for warthunder and that bungie title, then eternal crusade next year for the MAG but bigger experience. valkyrie can smoke a ****. Hit me up on my psn. I think the one I am using for that 'D' game is su_maverick PSN - ShallowGravez - Destiny here we come...
Doctor Day Glitched Connection 306	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:04:00 - [128] - Quote Blame the EA guy DOnt ask why just blame him
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 496	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:39:00 - [129] - Quote woooah Sabrewing got kicked? WTH.... Looks like Dust 514 is officially dead. Sabrewing was like the main community liason guy. Always active on forums and twitter. Now he's gone Dust will die along with some interest with Legion. Good job CCP Management, especially Hilmar.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5964	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:44:00 - [130] - Quote Democracy can thrive at it's most when the population is educated. Democracy is at it's most regressive when the population is ignorant. Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'it might have been'

Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6020	Posted - 2014.06.10 02:17:00 - [131] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Dare I ask....? Is... GM Unicorn.... still with us? Eterne & Unicorn were the two I spoke to the most when I first started Dust..... ='( Aeon..... I'ma join you in the bottle tonight... Unicorn has been gone for a while, if I'm thinking of the right person. Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 857	Posted - 2014.06.10 03:36:00 - [132] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Blah blah blah 1.bliggity 2.blah 3.bliggity 4.blah Aeon for CPM 1 Chairman. I was once laser focused on you once again going for cpm. The laser got out of control since no one was manning it, blinded me and now that laser focus ceases to be. PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R Underscore before and after the x
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 857	Posted - 2014.06.10 03:38:00 - [133] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Likewise, CCP Manifest is not part of the Community Team. He's our Senior PR guy, but sometimes works alongside the Community team when needed. Hope this clarifies the situation. - F Waiiiit a second here. CCP has a PR department?!? dafuk -XD PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R Underscore before and after the x
low genius The Sound Of Freedom 1969	Posted - 2014.06.10 04:01:00 - [134] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: low genius wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im bored. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones. Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP. Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person Step 3 - Hype Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources) It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something. yeah, i'm looking at ps4 for warthunder and that bungie title, then eternal crusade next year for the MAG but bigger experience. valkyrie can smoke a ****. Hit me up on my psn. I think the one I am using for that 'D' game is su_maverick i will. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. 1622	Posted - 2014.06.10 04:27:00 - [135] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Dare I ask....? Is... GM Unicorn.... still with us? Eterne & Unicorn were the two I spoke to the most when I first started Dust..... ='( Aeon..... I'ma join you in the bottle tonight... Unicorn has been gone for a while, if I'm thinking of the right person. opens half gallon vodka bottle I have a lot of brain cells to rid myself of tonight.... PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1

CCP Blowout C C P C C P Alliance 945	Posted - 2014.06.10 05:26:00 - [136] - Quote trollface dot jpg wrote: Goddamnit, stupid internet hiccup caused me to double post.... WELL PLAYED BLOWOUT! WELL PLAYED YOU SNEAKY SONOFABITCH! <3 In blaming the Internet, you are partly blaming me. I will not forget this day. Part man, part Internet.


CCP Blowout C C P C C P Alliance 945	Posted - 2014.06.10 05:35:00 - [137] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Democracy can thrive at it's most when the population is educated. Democracy is at it's most regressive when the population is ignorant. Cool quote - what does it have to do with this stuff? Part man, part Internet.

Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6028	Posted - 2014.06.10 10:41:00 - [138] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Blah blah blah 1.bliggity 2.blah 3.bliggity 4.blah Aeon for CPM 1 Chairman. I was once laser focused on you once again going for cpm. The laser got out of control since no one was manning it, blinded me and now that laser focus ceases to be. Lawl, I think the meaning got lost in the metaphor Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1956	Posted - 2014.06.10 12:16:00 - [139] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Snip.. Gotta Love a Community team in which Over half the names are not known by the community... have never been seen... has had 0 introduction to the community. and next to no interaction with the community. Worse is instead of working damage control and actively working with the community through the trasnition of Saberwing before he left... The Community team just left it as some random disappearance and if we never noticed, you would of never told us? There is a reason there is a massive lack of Trust with a majority of CCP Shanghai employee's and almost anything they say. You guys have no PR... And believe it or not... That's a huge part of your job description. And the way "The Community Team" Has managed the Community... is shameful.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 190	Posted - 2014.06.10 12:28:00 - [140] - Quote Bethhy wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Snip.. Gotta Love a Community team in which Over half the names are not known by the community... That's because over half of the community team are dedicated to Eve, einstein. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5966	Posted - 2014.06.10 12:36:00 - [141] - Quote CCP Blowout wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Democracy can thrive at it's most when the population is educated. Democracy is at it's most regressive when the population is ignorant. Cool quote - what does it have to do with this stuff? I'm just trying to be like CCP, Laser Focused Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'it might have been'
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4393	Posted - 2014.06.10 12:54:00 - [142] - Quote Why focus a laser anyway. It seems to me if you were to widen the laser you'd put on a better show. Especially if you've got it going through smoke or some other cool stage effect.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1957	Posted - 2014.06.10 13:03:00 - [143] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why focus a laser anyway. It seems to me if you were to widen the laser you'd put on a better show. Especially if you've got it going through smoke or some other cool stage effect. CCP Shanghai might have a few mirrors and smoke machines laying around
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5967	Posted - 2014.06.10 13:05:00 - [144] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why focus a laser anyway. It seems to me if you were to widen the laser you'd put on a better show. Especially if you've got it going through smoke or some other cool stage effect. You make a good point Himiko. A wide laser would be awesome to bounce off and go through all the smoke and mirrors! Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'it might have been'
DootDoot Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 348	Posted - 2014.06.10 13:24:00 - [145] - Quote NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.................... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY CCP.
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2014.06.10 14:44:00 - [146] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. "Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad." Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection. Here's your blue tagged post, and no misdirection here at all. The fact of the matter is, we're not going to go out with a megaphone and start screaming the names of people who were let go out of both personal and professional courtesy for those involved. Feel free to say what you will about professional and personal courtesy, but extremely hard decisions had to be made over the last week and on a personal note, I'm completely devastated that two fantastic members of the Community Team, and two great friends and colleagues were let go. I wish both CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing all the best for the future, and have no doubt in my mind that these two extremely talented guys will land firmly on their feet. Similarly, the CPM are also not going to start screaming names of people who were let go. The CPM is not, and never will be, a source of gossip for the community. Anyone who thinks so, can strip that mentality out of their heads. It's not going to happen. It's very true that the CPM have known about this since Friday (June 6), when I had a meeting with them at 20:00 UTC to discuss what has happened. They've acted extremely professionally over this, and have respected the fact that there are people behind these avatars, who've had their livelihoods and careers affected. I'd like to personally thank the CPM for the manner in which they've handled this news, for their display of professionalism and integrity in absorbing and dealing with this information. In the end, rest assured that development of DUST 514 and work on Project Legion remains unchanged, and will progress uninterrupted. In the same respect, the CPM will continue to function. CCP Logibro has been, and will continue to remain, the CPM Coordinator. This has been his role since he came to CCP, and will continue to be his role moving forward. He has done, and will continue to own the CPM project for as long as I remain Community Manager with CCP. The operation of, and future plans for the CPM will not be affected. If anything, going forward I'll be looking toward assisting CCP Logibro in pushing the CPM into the same, far more active role with DUST development that the CSM holds with EVE development. I do not believe that there is compromise when it comes to using the CPM's knowledge and voice to assist us. The CSM is in it's 9th term now, and there are a lot of lessons that have already been learned in the previous 8 terms that can be carried over into the operation of the CPM. On a note more concerning structure, the Community Team here at CCP has now been unified, which puts us in a position where all members of the team will now be working on community projects for DUST 514, Project Legion, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE Online going forward. The community team is now made up of: CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom I'm in the position where I hold the role of Community Manager, which will include serving as Community Manager for DUST 514 at the very least temporarily until we sit down and redefine people's roles to cover everything that needs to be considered. Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden, and we're on hand to make sure that you guys get the best experience possible. It's going to take us a little time to process all this, get over the fact that we've had to watch two really good friends and outstanding colleagues be let go, but I'm very confident that the team will pull together and deliver once we square things away. The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP. In the same respect, I'm not going to tolerate rumor milling and the posting of blatant garbage regarding the CPM, or any of my friends and colleagues, including CCP staff and members of the Community. Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums. On that note, I'll extend the same offer I do to the EVE Community, because you guys are equally as important to the future of New Eden: If you have concerns, issues, or feel like you'd like clarification, either on the forums or in private, either feel free to EVEmail my Dev character, catch me on twitter at @CCP_Falcon or catch me here on the forums, and I'm more than happy to talk. Cheers, - F ccp rattati! "Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you."
Paulus Phen502 11	Posted - 2014.06.10 23:18:00 - [147] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Good luck to you Saberwing and Eterne - sorry that you are gone. respec Bamm As for the whole way the news broke lol - maybe I missed it though I read every post but - CCP don't tell only CPM this news, tell us all directly.....or CPM, why would you tell non-CPM? Too many comms channels with bits and pieces flying around. Yeah, why did anybody know about this before CCP made it public knowledge? They shouldn't be relating info to the CPM like this unless they want us to know. It puts the CPM in a bad spot to have to constantly conceal news like this. Yes developement issues and stuff like that needs to stay on the down low, but a presser(press release) on this was forth coming. Look is the CPM and intermediary between us and them or not?! Is it only there so CCP can get info from the community and not the other way around(maybe I'm in the dark here, but If I am I ain't the only one)? Pyrex's vid got the point about the importance of communication between management and consumer and Hans got it right about not overreacting and patience and Bamm got it right about free press and telling what your really feeling, and CCP just got it wrong again by letting stuff come out like this and not being more open with it's consumer base. AND IF I'M ELECTED TO THE CPM1 I PROMISE TO CLEAN UP THE CORRUPTION IN THE SENATE(AND PROTO STOMPING, TEA BAGGING, REDLINE RAILGUNNING, GAME LAG, AND TANKSPAMS) OH WAIT I'M NOT RUNNING, YES, THANK GOODNESS! "There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 902	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:40:00 - [148] - Quote so saberwing got canned and the cpm propaganda team are still around? man this is just sad. i wish i didnt log in to check up on what was happening. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 186	Posted - 2014.06.11 12:10:00 - [149] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: so saberwing got canned and the cpm propaganda team are still around? man this is just sad. i wish i didnt log in to check up on what was happening. Worse than any other game company. I hope they simply shut down. They deserve that much. CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian
DootDoot Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 348	Posted - 2014.06.11 12:56:00 - [150] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why focus a laser anyway. It seems to me if you were to widen the laser you'd put on a better show. Especially if you've got it going through smoke or some other cool stage effect. CCP Shanghai might have a few mirrors and smoke machines laying around No No they call this "Advanced Lighting Effects" Where CCP Shanghai spends a year developing Ridley Scott Worthy Lens flares... But Builds the WORSE Net Code, Hit Detection Mechanics, Physics, Aim Mechanics, Collision Mechanics, Map Scale and flow, Non Sticky Terrain, 16vs16 player counts... BUT THEY HAVE LIGHTING EFFECTS AMAGAD. Seriosuly i hope they havent TOUCHED the FCKING LIGHTING. Worry about your Damn Core Game mechanics. And HOW CCP Can PUSH the envelope of Next level performance and efficiency in the core mechanics Of Legion.. NOT WHAT KIND OF FANCY LIGHT EFFECTS THEY CAN MAKE IN A FPS. Seriously CCP Eat your freaking Vegetables First this time... Not a Year After you launch your Beta. This should be all CCP is thinking of... How can we build our core mechanics the best, have our game perform the best to all of CCP's knowledge... Have the most players, The biggest maps, Etc... Smoke and Mirrors 514 i hope is behind us.

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. 2874	Posted - 2014.06.12 06:12:00 - [151] - Quote Honestly, why do you even care about this game any more? All hope is lost, and you need to wake up from the daydream spell CCP put on you. Its not healthy for you to keep listening to this company. Dust 514, time of death: 06:00 PST 2/5-2014 Cause of death: Incompetent upper management, hubris, no communication with the community. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
Michael Arck 4677	Posted - 2014.06.12 06:16:00 - [152] - Quote If it is dead, then why are you still on forums claiming so? It's alive and well. It's not dead yet. Saying stuff like that reminds me of horror movies when that one person says "we're going to die, we're going to die". I always wonder why the group doesn't just feed them to the monster since the person already given up. It would give them more time to run and his words wouldn't be said in vain. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 187	Posted - 2014.06.12 14:02:00 - [153] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Honestly, why do you even care about this game any more? All hope is lost, and you need to wake up from the daydream spell CCP put on you. Its not healthy for you to keep listening to this company. Dust 514, time of death: 06:00 PST 2/5-2014 Cause of death: Incompetent upper management, hubris, no communication with the community. QFT. CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4414	Posted - 2014.06.12 15:23:00 - [154] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Honestly, why do you even care about this game any more? All hope is lost, and you need to wake up from the daydream spell CCP put on you. Its not healthy for you to keep listening to this company. Dust 514, time of death: 06:00 PST 2/5-2014 Cause of death: Incompetent upper management, hubris, no communication with the community. They communicate with the community more than any developer I know. That's hardly the issue.
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 188	Posted - 2014.06.12 15:32:00 - [155] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Honestly, why do you even care about this game any more? All hope is lost, and you need to wake up from the daydream spell CCP put on you. Its not healthy for you to keep listening to this company. Dust 514, time of death: 06:00 PST 2/5-2014 Cause of death: Incompetent upper management, hubris, no communication with the community. They communicate with the community more than any developer I know. That's hardly the issue. And CCP got so lost in translation. CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian
BL00DFART 0PERATI0N BLACK SHIELD 0	Posted - 2014.06.13 19:50:00 - [156] - Quote Meh. Knowing about legion pre fanfest whilst watching ppl spend money on aur is boarderline stealing in my book. Sad part is they didn't steal it for themselves, they stole it for CCP. Perhaps this will be food for thought as they collect their welfare checks.
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 188	Posted - 2014.06.14 13:06:00 - [157] - Quote BL00DFART wrote: Meh. Knowing about legion pre fanfest whilst watching ppl spend money on aur is boarderline stealing in my book. Sad part is they didn't steal it for themselves, they stole it for CCP. Perhaps this will be food for thought as they collect their welfare checks. Exactly. No words for this behavior by CCP. There's a reason they didn't reveal Legion until fanfest instead of 6 months before. Their greed came before our need to know basis. CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian


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