Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im board. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones.

Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP.
Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game
Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person
Step 3 - Hype
Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community
Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team
Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources)

It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something.

Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im board. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones.

Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP.
Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game
Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person
Step 3 - Hype
Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community
Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team
Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources)

It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something.

Honestly, Im just counting the days till certain titles get released. The only reason I even log on now and again is to play with a couple friends when Im bored. My subscriptions have run out on my two EVE toons (well, one has a little time left) and I could care less about what happens with my Dust ones.

Despite new people taking over for the community team, this just seems like an endless cycle with CCP.
Step 1 - Announce hiring of Person X for game
Step 2 - Boldly declare a shift in vision/teams around this person
Step 3 - Hype
Step 4 - Watch it make no difference to community
Step 5 - Layoff parts of old team
Step 6 - Announce hiring of Person Y (or reallocation of resources)

It has been claimed time and time again by former employees that management cannot sustain vision and that the company constantly tries to reinvent the wheel to make it seem like they are doing something.

Thing is, it is probably a little more than you might think - even if they are not posting in a lot of threads, many devs do read and interact.

Just want to echo the sentiments here that we are sorry to see our good friends go, but that we can't comment on personnel matters, so you might not get us weighing in on specifics as much as you might like.

CCP Falcon did a great job in his post and I do want to express my sincere faith in Logibro, Frame and the rest of the crew. And of course once this seriouspost is over I'll go back to trolling the rest of the gang on the forums.

yeah, i'm looking at ps4 for warthunder and that bungie title, then eternal crusade next year for the MAG but bigger experience.

valkyrie can smoke a ****.

Dare I ask....? Is... GM Unicorn.... still with us? Eterne & Unicorn were the two I spoke to the most when I first started Dust..... ='(


Aeon..... I'ma join you in the bottle tonight...

Aeon for CPM 1 Chairman.

Likewise, CCP Manifest is not part of the Community Team. He's our Senior PR guy, but sometimes works alongside the Community team when needed.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

- F

Hit me up on my psn. I think the one I am using for that 'D' game is su_maverick

Unicorn has been gone for a while, if I'm thinking of the right person.

Goddamnit, stupid internet hiccup caused me to double post.... WELL PLAYED BLOWOUT! WELL PLAYED YOU SNEAKY SONOFABITCH!

<3

Democracy can thrive at it's most when the population is educated.

Democracy is at it's most regressive when the population is ignorant.

I was once laser focused on you once again going for cpm. The laser got out of control since no one was manning it, blinded me and now that laser focus ceases to be.

Snip..

Gotta Love a Community team in which Over half the names are not known by the community...

Cool quote - what does it have to do with this stuff?

Why focus a laser anyway. It seems to me if you were to widen the laser you'd put on a better show. Especially if you've got it going through smoke or some other cool stage effect.

Why focus a laser anyway. It seems to me if you were to widen the laser you'd put on a better show. Especially if you've got it going through smoke or some other cool stage effect.

Here's your blue tagged post, and no misdirection here at all.

The fact of the matter is, we're not going to go out with a megaphone and start screaming the names of people who were let go out of both personal and professional courtesy for those involved. Feel free to say what you will about professional and personal courtesy, but extremely hard decisions had to be made over the last week and on a personal note, I'm completely devastated that two fantastic members of the Community Team, and two great friends and colleagues were let go.

I wish both CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing all the best for the future, and have no doubt in my mind that these two extremely talented guys will land firmly on their feet.

Similarly, the CPM are also not going to start screaming names of people who were let go. The CPM is not, and never will be, a source of gossip for the community. Anyone who thinks so, can strip that mentality out of their heads. It's not going to happen.

It's very true that the CPM have known about this since Friday (June 6), when I had a meeting with them at 20:00 UTC to discuss what has happened. They've acted extremely professionally over this, and have respected the fact that there are people behind these avatars, who've had their livelihoods and careers affected.

I'd like to personally thank the CPM for the manner in which they've handled this news, for their display of professionalism and integrity in absorbing and dealing with this information.

In the end, rest assured that development of DUST 514 and work on Project Legion remains unchanged, and will progress uninterrupted.

In the same respect, the CPM will continue to function. CCP Logibro has been, and will continue to remain, the CPM Coordinator. This has been his role since he came to CCP, and will continue to be his role moving forward. He has done, and will continue to own the CPM project for as long as I remain Community Manager with CCP.

The operation of, and future plans for the CPM will not be affected. If anything, going forward I'll be looking toward assisting CCP Logibro in pushing the CPM into the same, far more active role with DUST development that the CSM holds with EVE development.

I do not believe that there is compromise when it comes to using the CPM's knowledge and voice to assist us. The CSM is in it's 9th term now, and there are a lot of lessons that have already been learned in the previous 8 terms that can be carried over into the operation of the CPM.

On a note more concerning structure, the Community Team here at CCP has now been unified, which puts us in a position where all members of the team will now be working on community projects for DUST 514, Project Legion, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE Online going forward.

The community team is now made up of:

CCP Falcon
CCP Frame
CCP Gargant
CCP Guard
CCP Leeloo
CCP Logibro
CCP Phantom

I'm in the position where I hold the role of Community Manager, which will include serving as Community Manager for DUST 514 at the very least temporarily until we sit down and redefine people's roles to cover everything that needs to be considered.

Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden, and we're on hand to make sure that you guys get the best experience possible. It's going to take us a little time to process all this, get over the fact that we've had to watch two really good friends and outstanding colleagues be let go, but I'm very confident that the team will pull together and deliver once we square things away.

The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP.

In the same respect, I'm not going to tolerate rumor milling and the posting of blatant garbage regarding the CPM, or any of my friends and colleagues, including CCP staff and members of the Community. Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums.

On that note, I'll extend the same offer I do to the EVE Community, because you guys are equally as important to the future of New Eden:

If you have concerns, issues, or feel like you'd like clarification, either on the forums or in private, either feel free to EVEmail my Dev character, catch me on twitter at @CCP_Falcon or catch me here on the forums, and I'm more than happy to talk.

Cheers,

- F

Good luck to you Saberwing and Eterne - sorry that you are gone.

respec Bamm

As for the whole way the news broke lol - maybe I missed it though I read every post but - CCP don't tell only CPM this news, tell us all directly.....or CPM, why would you tell non-CPM? Too many comms channels with bits and pieces flying around.

so saberwing got canned and the cpm propaganda team are still around? man this is just sad. i wish i didnt log in to check up on what was happening.

CCP Shanghai might have a few mirrors and smoke machines laying around