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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.06.08 18:56:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue.
Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly.
Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic.
CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community.
Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact The East India Co.
4142
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:01:00 -
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CCP you are just not good at PR...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14263
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:02:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans.
Wow, it was so insensitive of Hans to suggest people shouldn't start shouting about Saberwing getting fired. Man, losing my job would be made so much better by everyone shouting about it ASAP before I or my employer are okay with telling people.
Hans must clearly be a complete sycophant for asking someone to be sensitive about someone losing their job. That's just the kind of evil corporate thing CCP would do for no reason, clearly he did it so he could get a job at CCP.
This 'us vs them' mentality you're suggesting here is sickening, Pyrex. "whose side are you on?" Really? What side would he be on? Did he do this out of his own self-interest?
A significant member of the community losing their job. Is it wrong to be sensitive about that?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
3182
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:06:00 -
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@CEOPyrex CloneA Holy smokes! Thanks for getting this out there gentlemen.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
460
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:09:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans.
You realise that a lot of us that talk with sabrewing knew, this isnt a CPM thing
We didn't tell anyone because the man lost his job and we opted to not advertise it on the forums out of respect
this is nothing to do with CPM, stop trying to hatemonger yet again
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2670
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:12:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Very sad to hear. CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing were two of the best devs involved with DUST. Community Reps, not devs. They had no real impact on the game.
I'm aware of their positions within the company. CCP employees are often referred to as "devs" in short, regardless of their actual position in the company. You may note the number of "dev blogs" posted by CCP employees who do not do programming or graphics work.
I'd contest your notion that they had no real impact on the game. Community relations has a huge impact on developer prioritization and the quality of the end product. And Eterne was a lore god, who contributed a lot to creating the "world" the game is set in.
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1800
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:20:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly.
Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic.
CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community.
Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans.
Enough bullshit Pyrex. I've had it with your ******** propaganda.
I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games.
After much discussion with BAMM, we agreed that it would be best for CCP to post this themselves, and BAMM agreed to do so. I never once told him that he wasn't allowed to use a youtube video, I said it wasn't very classy to use youtube and draw attention to his channel when he could have just gone THAT MOMENT (not waiting, not hiding anything) and posting this information on the channel. If BAMM wanted to get the information out, he could have done so yesterday, I certainly wasn't trying to stop him. I just thought it was better for CCP to have the courage to announce this stuff instead of leaving it up to the community to deal with themslves, and its unfortunate that they once again are sitting around instead of communicating with players.
I know you don't like me Pyrex, but twisting this into a monster of a lie isn't going to accomplish anything here. The transition from "BAMM, stop teasing the public and share the info if you're going to" into "BAMM don't release important information" is completely inside your (rather powerful) imagination. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2671
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:24:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games.
Confirmed. Hans told BAMM to just out with it. Yesterday. I was there(TM).
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:25:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Or can we finally just say it's a lobby shooter with a cool game mode called planetary conquest. PC is a cool game mode? It's an incredibly flawed and difficult way to just get competitive matches. Compare it to other FPS's. It might be a shell of a concept it was a month ago - but you can still take land and remove people from the map. You can't do that in other games still.
Many games mostly RTS and PVP focused MMO games has been doing that for over a decade. PS1 had that since 10+ years. But not many FPS games besides Ps2 , Heroes and Generals, WW2 online, and a few others didn't really have much territory control that much is true though . Either way PC still had many problems with it ; so it doesn't seem to matter much in the end .
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1391
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:27:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games. Confirmed. Hans told BAMM to just out with it. Yesterday. I was there(TM).
Witness here too.
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1805
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:28:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:"Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad."
Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection.
All I'm expecting them to post is that there will be community management in place to work with the CPM1 on Dust and Legion. Doesn't have to be a bunch of corporate speak, those are simple facts (we've already met with Saberwing's replacement) and without posting the news upfront like the should be doing, they've left if up to asshats in the community to run around screaming "THE COMMUNITY IS SCREWED WE'RE ABANDONED". |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1526
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:28:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I didn't forbid anyone from posting anything. Actually, I encouraged BAMM to post the information instead of teasing the community with it a he was doing in the Biomassed podcast Skype channel. He was being a jerk and taunting players with "I know something you don't know" and my initial response (with witnesses) was for him to just go and tell people instead of playing stupid "I KNOW SEKRETZ GUYS" games. Confirmed. Hans told BAMM to just out with it. Yesterday. I was there(TM). Witness here too.
Same.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
3182
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:32:00 -
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Alright I can understand emotions are high. I'm going to bed and revisiting this when the dust settles. Wow...we've been extremely reactionary here.
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
951
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:33:00 -
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07 Sabrewing et al
Public Relations - tick tick BOOM.
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Dudestay Down
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:33:00 -
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This is the worst possible news I could ever have! My life will forever be changed! What am I to do now with my girlfriend? She ALWAYS asks about my adventures on DUST and how many people I manage to defeat! She finds me sexy as a Gallente Scout and NOW? There are no games that can replace DUST and now my girlfriend will be disappointed that I cannot teach her how to play this amazing game or have my bragging rights when I come home!
This is ballin' and now I have to figure out how to break the news that one of the greatest games ever is DEAD!!!!
PS My brother in law: ASSHOLES!!!!
PSS Me: I am just too upset to post anything at all:( hence my girl had to do it on my behalf:(
PSSS On behalf of Dust Community players: CCP you back stabbing JUDAS bastards
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The Black Jackal
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
1221
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:33:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly. Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic. CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community. Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans.
For your information, Hans constantly urged BAMM to simply share the information and not 'angle for the exclusive' on his Youtube Broadcast.
BAMM spent the better half of a day trying to lord the information over many people in Skype, with Hans personally urging him to 'stop being a **** and share the information".
In contrast, your 18 minute rant makes BAMM's expose at least look slightly better as he kept it relatively brief.
Right now, the need for a CPM is even more pressing. CCP still have community representatives, and though what's happened is a terrible tragedy, it doesn't mean that we roll back the entire clock to having zero community representation.
Keeping this information quiet was not about 'hiding' anything, it was about those who respected Saberwing's, Eterne's and the rest of the team that was laid offs privacy about outing this information in their own time.
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Captain Crutches
Nexus Marines
135
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:35:00 -
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Obviously all my o7's go to all the bros who got cut. It sucks big time to lose your job through no fault of your own, not just for you but for your coworkers and, in several CCP cases, your players who liked and respected you as a dev.
But... Saberwing? Seriously?
If there was one man at CCP who I thought had done such an amazing job as to be last on the list to be laid off, it was Saberwing. How CCP decided he was redundant or unnecessary is completely beyond me. The announcement of Project Legion was the best news I'd heard for the future of this game... this is right up there with the worst.
I completely get wanting to respect the guy and keep it quiet until he was ready to say so, but like it or not it's out now, and people are hearing. I still have the utmost respect for Saberwing... who I respect a little less now is CCP for somehow deciding it was a good idea to let him go.
Fly safe, Shahin. You may not be here for us anymore, but I think I speak for most if not all of the Dust community when I say we're still here for you. o7
Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked!
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
225
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:40:00 -
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I was thinking a movie should be made about CCP and their present predicament. Then I realized somebody already did.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUdtxe2YnU
But, will it have the happy ending?
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
3182
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:46:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: On the other hand, this is more along the lines of how I feel....
http://youtu.be/Xwmn2pdr78M
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Shley Ashes
Commando Perkone Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:55:00 -
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This is news worse than Failfest, to lose two liked members of the community, is truly demoralising. I can only convey deep regret and wish them both the best going forward.
That doesn't change the fact that this is another large blemish on CCP's bad press
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
3056
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:08:00 -
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Failing to see how the layoff of two community reps is relevant or even three page worthy ?
Community reps, to me, seem like a dime a dozen and are replaceable...
The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions
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Captain Crutches
Nexus Marines
137
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:15:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Failing to see how the layoff of two community reps is relevant or even three page worthy ?
Community reps, to me, seem like a dime a dozen and are replaceable... guaranteedreplies.jpg
Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked!
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
3028
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:16:00 -
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CCP Saberwing let go? ... He was pretty much the only person who instilled any amount of faith in CCP as a company for me. To see him let go as a 'removal of redundancies' all for them to bring in new community reps... wow that really stings.
I'm gonna have to sit down and really reflect on whether or not its worth continuing to support CCP at all as a company... a bunch of dedicated developers led by some of the worst upper management I have seen except for the likes of Ubisoft and EA. I may have to reconsider my subscription to EVE...
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
163
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:19:00 -
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What? Whats going on with CCP?
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
3182
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:23:00 -
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Captain Crutches wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Failing to see how the layoff of two community reps is relevant or even three page worthy ?
Community reps, to me, seem like a dime a dozen and are replaceable... guaranteedreplies.jpg
That new link.
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CCP Falcon
C C P C C P Alliance
647
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:26:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. "Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad." Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection.
Here's your blue tagged post, and no misdirection here at all.
The fact of the matter is, we're not going to go out with a megaphone and start screaming the names of people who were let go out of both personal and professional courtesy for those involved. Feel free to say what you will about professional and personal courtesy, but extremely hard decisions had to be made over the last week and on a personal note, I'm completely devastated that two fantastic members of the Community Team, and two great friends and colleagues were let go.
I wish both CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing all the best for the future, and have no doubt in my mind that these two extremely talented guys will land firmly on their feet.
Similarly, the CPM are also not going to start screaming names of people who were let go. The CPM is not, and never will be, a source of gossip for the community. Anyone who thinks so, can strip that mentality out of their heads. It's not going to happen.
It's very true that the CPM have known about this since Friday (June 6), when I had a meeting with them at 20:00 UTC to discuss what has happened. They've acted extremely professionally over this, and have respected the fact that there are people behind these avatars, who've had their livelihoods and careers affected.
I'd like to personally thank the CPM for the manner in which they've handled this news, for their display of professionalism and integrity in absorbing and dealing with this information.
In the end, rest assured that development of DUST 514 and work on Project Legion remains unchanged, and will progress uninterrupted.
In the same respect, the CPM will continue to function. CCP Logibro has been, and will continue to remain, the CPM Coordinator. This has been his role since he came to CCP, and will continue to be his role moving forward. He has done, and will continue to own the CPM project for as long as I remain Community Manager with CCP.
The operation of, and future plans for the CPM will not be affected. If anything, going forward I'll be looking toward assisting CCP Logibro in pushing the CPM into the same, far more active role with DUST development that the CSM holds with EVE development.
I do not believe that there is compromise when it comes to using the CPM's knowledge and voice to assist us. The CSM is in it's 9th term now, and there are a lot of lessons that have already been learned in the previous 8 terms that can be carried over into the operation of the CPM.
On a note more concerning structure, the Community Team here at CCP has now been unified, which puts us in a position where all members of the team will now be working on community projects for DUST 514, Project Legion, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE Online going forward.
The community team is now made up of:
CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom
I'm in the position where I hold the role of Community Manager, which will include serving as Community Manager for DUST 514 at the very least temporarily until we sit down and redefine people's roles to cover everything that needs to be considered.
Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden, and we're on hand to make sure that you guys get the best experience possible. It's going to take us a little time to process all this, get over the fact that we've had to watch two really good friends and outstanding colleagues be let go, but I'm very confident that the team will pull together and deliver once we square things away.
The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP.
In the same respect, I'm not going to tolerate rumor milling and the posting of blatant garbage regarding the CPM, or any of my friends and colleagues, including CCP staff and members of the Community. Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums.
On that note, I'll extend the same offer I do to the EVE Community, because you guys are equally as important to the future of New Eden:
If you have concerns, issues, or feel like you'd like clarification, either on the forums or in private, either feel free to EVEmail my Dev character, catch me on twitter at @CCP_Falcon or catch me here on the forums, and I'm more than happy to talk.
Cheers,
- F
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:33:00 -
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Thank you CCP Falcon. This statement is sincerely appreciated.
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Captain Crutches
Nexus Marines
139
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:38:00 -
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Thanks for the info Falcon. I know there's always a method to CCP's madness, it's just a little frustrating to not always know what that method is. The fact that you're unifying the community team tells me that you're pushing more for the unification of your games, which is great news and something I've long advocated prioritizing as it is your main selling point for Dust/Legion. I only regret that such great people like Saberwing, who was arguably the overall favorite among the community, couldn't have been kept on to continue their awesome work.
Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked!
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
494
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:43:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue.
So...lose two of the good staff members we have, and.....gain 15 green card programmers who can't understand 60% of the community.
awesome sauce.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1100
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:48:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:
Falcon's comment
Falcon,
First, I appreciate the response and the measured tone. I'm sorry things got to the point where you had step in on this but you posting is probably one of the best things at this point.
There are a lot of folks in the community that are concerned, very understandably, about the games and the social community that sprung up around CCP over the last 10 years. That's not just the Dust side...it's the Eve side as well. This community is ultimately what keeps people with you and the connective tissue to those social connections was often guys like Eterne and Saberwing.
At the bottom line, I wish CCP Saberwing and CCP Eterne the absolute best. There were an asset to the CCP and the community and seemed like genuinely excellent guys.
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