Thank you so much for this, very eloquently stated and I agree completely. My own frustration with this situation stems mainly from the fact that I see so much work to do ahead, and know that life is going to go on for both Dust and Legion regardless of the setbacks. And regardless of the false claims that there's no support for the community or the CPM moving forward. My tolerance for misinformation is low, and I will always aggressively defend the truth - but it all comes from a passion for the game and this community.

You're also absolutely right that any personal friction between me and BAMM also comes from that same passion for the game and community. BAMM's sadness and anger in the video is real, and I applaud his willingness to be vulnerable like that, even if we have our differences of opinion surrounding the circumstances. I'm always going to value his contributions and I hope (and know) he's going to be sticking around like the rest of us to continue that good work.

Disputes are common in periods of mourning, and I think its fair to say that's everyone's frame of mind right now and we're all suffering that burden. I've spoken with BAMM privately again and let him know I'm not out to burn any bridges or hold grudges, and I understand that there wasn't any malice or disrespect intended in the way this was handled. The feeling is mutual, of course.

I want to also thank CCP Falcon for stopping by and for his detailed explanation of the circumstances, this was always my goal throughout these events - even when arguing with BAMM. It's vital for the community to fully understand the transition inside CCP as soon as possible, preferably straight from the source and free from hyperbole. Now that its done and out in the open, I've no more to say about the issue. It's time to just let this heal and to get back to working on improving Dust.

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The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP.

sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward

Remember guys, those layoffs have not effected Dust 514 or Legion development at all.

Id like to confirm that Hans has known for some time and told Bamm recently - he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly.

Bam and i were speaking this morning and agreed this needs to be heard after Sabrewing told me directly and confirmed he was okay for Bamm and i to do a video on this topic.

CPM0 is not there to hide information from the community its supposed to represent. Its not there to decide when information can be released as it suits CCP and not the community.

Frankly you are a disgrace to this game and have shown total disrespect to the community you were supposed to represent and i would ask one thing, whose side are you on? feels like you are constantly angling for a CCP job Hans.

Never ceases to amaze me at just how good you are at getting the community riled up about something that doesn't exist. It's kind of sad that propaganda only works on the gullible but since I'm ousting a portion of the community itself, let me give you a sneak peek at something the "Evil Fortress of Candidate Collusion" has been working on for the past few days.

Not a damn thing.

Now, back to you, since this is turning out to as ridiculous as a men's body wash commercial.

Pyrex, to me, you're like Snopes. A lot of people think you're a reliable source of information for all the wrong reasons. No-one investigates the information you provide, they just take it as fact. When in reality, like Snopes, you:

a) Don't provide reference material to any of the claims you make
b) Have a reputation for being a reliable source of information, despite the only justifiable reasoning for that being a something you did years ago, and because you said so. (videos you made back in the day before you donned the title "Sir Tin Foil")
c) Are rather hypocritical, which anyone can see if they just read between the lines (listen to one of your videos for five minutes and then actually play with you (Prototype suits in Pubs, for instance))
d) Insanely bias, despite many attempts at trying to pass off that you're not.

On the other hand, I can't help but admire the way you take something that no-one can feasibly investigate and then turn it into something fishy. For instance "confirming that Hans has known for a long time and told BAMM". How can you confirm that, exactly? Are you psychic? Did you bug one of their computers? Did you grab a Twitch Livestream Code and use it without their knowing? How on -EARTH- can confirm this information at all? To which I can only assume that your lack of responding to this thread there-in afterward is a sure sign that you weren't ready to deal with the backlash of being called out on your BS despite -KNOWING- it was BS.

And then you go on to say that he "he also forbade Bam to release this info to the community therefore assuming control of Bamms youtube channel indirectly". How can you make this claim? What evidence do you have that it happened other than "Pyrex said so"? You know what I see when I look at that post? Just another Youtuber getting bent out of shape over a competitor releasing the information before you did - which doesn't necessarily make you right it just means that you, like him, are just as egotistical in trying to turn something rather heartbreaking into a publicity stunt.

Which is to say that it's all you ever do in the first place, using the bullet points I demonstrated earlier. I swear, if your followers had the sense to look at some of the wording you use in your arguments and actually think two steps ahead, considering whether there's any validity to your claims instead of just blindly believing in it all, you'd be the only person in the community that feels the way you do about 90% of the conspiracy theories you have.

Not that I honestly think you're going to read this since you haven't even taken the time to respond to any of the other comments aimed at your little circus act. So, I'mma go have a beer and stick my head in the sand since it works so well for you (albeit, generally helps to see when you're about to get hit from behind).

Aeon for CPM 1 Chairman.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/05/eve-online-developer-ccp-hit-by-big-layoffs

"Development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and 'Project Legion' are not impacted by the restructuring."

Hey CCP can you guys do anything except lie??? This is why no one trusts anything you guys say because 95% of it is a lie or misdirection. Yet you guys seem to be really damn good at trying to sell Omega Boosters and Aur.

I did not see eye to eye with Saberwing mainly on the issue of him saying it was racist to say that the Dust 514 team was bad at codding, but I feel sorry that that he and others lost their jobs, because that hurts them and their family and that is never a good thing. I wish those laid off nothing but the best and hopefully they can find work at a better managed company.

Saberwing and Eterne were not developers, Saber was CM and Eterne was lore

My question is, how many of them regularly look through the forums, and post.

Lore is part of game development. All concepts, working or otherwise, are based around the lore. Community Manager acquires useful information and good feedback, filters bad feedback, and does everything to keep community happy.

Both are incredibly important to the development of a game.

After what happened at fanfest my first thought was I wished this had been CCP ROUGE, sorry it's just the truth about how I felt. How the player base was treated with the keynote(on purpose and with disregard and malice) makes it no surprise that something would go down this way again.

You tubers shouldn't be putting this stuff out(though they are a type of media and may feel responsible to report the facts) and we actually like to hear peoples honest reaction and over reactions, that's real, but a CPM shouldn't have to hold something back forever either, hence it's probably best that Bamm went ahead and put it out, next time just release the info before it becomes public knowledge CCP. Bad news is better when treated with honesty and disclosure, you wanted to create a community, and you did, and look how much we care.

Why weren't you honest and overflowing with reasons at the Rouge wedding? Why weren't you here? I still don't know what your future plans are for DUST(how long are you going to TRY and keep it around and so on, what are you trying to carry over to Project Legion, will district control crossover, ect and ect). Look don't create a community and then try and conceal your real plans and goals from it. Guys just had to be let go, tell us, or let the CPMs relate it to us or just shut down all communication to us for good and let us create our own forums and community ourself, where honest thoughts,opinions, and gossip can flourish even if it ain't true.

We all would have been better to have never got involved in this game than to be treated the way we were and fanfest. Whoever thought up that debacle should be the one who loses their job first in my opinion(and I know there are a whole lot of people who agree with me). See I'm being up front(American phrase meaning purposely truthful) about what I'm thinking and feeling and people might not like it but no ones gonna think I'm a coward or dishonest about it, And if my opinion changes I'll try and be upfront about it then, see how that works, not hard just real. I don't have all the answers and I can live with being wrong or too honest and so can you guys. That's called a close knit community and that's GOOD for business not back stabbing and playing political scheming.

But whatever, I plan on playing this game until the server gets shut down because I have made friends and a brotherhood with fellow players. This game may not matter to you guys anymore(I honestly don't know and can't tell) but you can't make it not matter to me. That's my big protest, I'll care if I want too, and you can't turn that off or make me buy Aurum to make care more or less. I already have an Omega booster for that and it runs out when I say so and you can't Nerf it either!

After what happened at fanfest my first thought was I wished this had been CCP ROUGE, sorry it's just the truth about how I felt. How the player base was treated with the keynote(on purpose and with disregard and malice) makes it no surprise that something would go down this way again. You tubers shouldn't be putting this stuff out(though they are a type of media and may feel responsible to report the facts) and we actually like to hear peoples honest reaction and over reactions, that's real, but a CPM shouldn't have to hold something back forever either, hence it's probably best that Bamm went ahead and put it out, next time just release the info before it becomes public knowledge CCP. Bad news is better when treated with honesty and disclosure, you wanted to create a community, and you did, and look how much we care. Why weren't you honest and overflowing with reasons at the Rouge wedding? Why weren't you here? I still don't know what your future plans are for DUST(how long are you going to TRY and keep it around and so on, what are you trying to carry over to Project Legion, will district control crossover, ect and ect). Look don't create a community and then try and conceal your real plans and goals from it. Guys just had to be let go, tell us, or let the CPMs relate it to us or just shut down all communication to us for good and let us create our own forums and community ourself, where honest thoughts,opinions, and gossip can flourish even if it ain't true. We all would have been better to have never got involved in this game than to be treated the way we were and fanfest. Whoever thought up that debacle should be the one who loses their job first in my opinion(and I know there are a whole lot of people who agree with me). See I'm being up front(American phrase meaning purposely truthful) about what I'm thinking and feeling and people might not like it but no ones gonna think I'm a coward or dishonest about it, And if my opinion changes I'll try and be upfront about it then, see how that works, not hard just real. I don't have all the answers and I can live with being wrong or too honest and so can you guys. That's called a close knit community and that's GOOD for business not back stabbing and playing political scheming. But whatever, I plan on playing this game until the server gets shut down because I have made friends and a brotherhood with fellow players. This game may not matter to you guys anymore(I honestly don't know and can't tell) but you can't make it not matter to me. That's my big protest, I'll care if I want too, and you can't turn that off or make me buy Aurum to make care more or less. I already have an Omega booster for that and it runs out when I say so and you can't Nerf it either!

Likewise, CCP Manifest is not part of the Community Team. He's our Senior PR guy, but sometimes works alongside the Community team when needed.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

- F