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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:54:00 -
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I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crutches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team.
CCP Falcon wrote:The community team is now made up of:
CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom
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Captain Crutches
Nexus Marines
141
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:56:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crunches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team. *Crutches.
I'm a cripple, not a cereal.
Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked!
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
9237
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:57:00 -
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Captain Crutches wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crunches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team. *Crutches. I'm a cripple, not a cereal. I thought you were a FoTM Scrub.
Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
3182
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Posted - 2014.06.08 20:59:00 -
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My apologies for that Freudian slip. I see you cannot hold a bowl of cereal and use your Crutches at the same time. This makes me sad.
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:05:00 -
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You can accuse of m@@hattery but when I hear statements such as
- Seasoned veteran of EVE
- the same courtesy I extend to EVE players
- redefining roles
The implicit message I am getting that is subtly hidden and tucked away is this:
"We're making the staff of a more EVE likened mindset which, even though none of us are Dust514 veterans but only casually play the game we will make game updates and patches that could be for the better or worse because we are basing it on what we feel is best without input from an actual veteran with feedback based on the forums that we may or may not heed".
And that I feel, as horrible as I make it sound seems to be the implicit situation Dust players are going to be left standing with. If someone on the development team played Dust for over a year you wouldn't hear them say "I'm an EVE vet" but rather something I would say: "I've played both Dust and EVE for over a year". That would be a more resounding and reassuring statement and not something that teeters on making it appear confidence instilling when it really isn't.
I write a lot for a living and corporate letters as well and I feel sometimes its better to not mince words and give illusions of what's not there. Dust's basic imperfections were the game imbalances and overall matchmaking AI. If you asked the playerbase they may even agree that they'd prefer resources allocated towards hotfixes, glitches and game balancing vs. content creation. Not like I'm saying you guy's aren't doing that but the presentation of how you say things and what's occurring as far as the layoff of people is not confidence instilling at all.
Then again I could've been the only one to picked up on this. To somewhat paraphrase a line from LoTR's movie that I shall now mutilate for use: "I don't doubt your heart in the matter when it comes to Dust, just the overall ability to deliver on it". |
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CCP Falcon
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:06:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:I wonder how the Eve bros are responding to this news? CCP's Lapdog and Captain Crutches pointed out on twitter that CCP Manifest and CCP Mimic are not on that list of the new Community Team. CCP Falcon wrote:The community team is now made up of:
CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom
CCP Mimic isn't part of the Community Team, she works elsewhere in the company, but lends the team a LOT of help when she's not too busy.
Likewise, CCP Manifest is not part of the Community Team. He's our Senior PR guy, but sometimes works alongside the Community team when needed.
Hope this clarifies the situation.
- F
CCP Falcon || EVE Community Manager || EVE Illuminati || @CCP_Falcon
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
3182
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:09:00 -
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Much appreciated Falcon.
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CCP Falcon
C C P C C P Alliance
658
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:11:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:You can accuse of m@@hattery but when I hear statements such as
- Seasoned veteran of EVE
- the same courtesy I extend to EVE players
- redefining roles
The implicit message I am getting that is subtly hidden and tucked away is this:
You might want to re-read what I posted:
CCP Falcon wrote:Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden
New Eden does not equal EVE. New Eden consists of all our products that are currently playable.
You can read between the lines as much as you like, but when it boils down to it, it's in our best interests to have the communities of both DUST 514 and EVE in a healthy state.
Argue all you like and attempt to read between the lines, but that's our objective.
CCP Falcon || EVE Community Manager || EVE Illuminati || @CCP_Falcon
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
434
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:11:00 -
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ok I think perhaps its time to break cover...
i would like to again express my most heart felt sympathies for the losses of our Princes and thanks to CCP Frame for the clarity .
i admit to not handling the information in the most tactful way as i was and still am epicly pissed when i was told and i had made this video with the permission of SaberWing, ignore the last bit of it as that was an editing fail on my part there was meant to be a whole lot more said by me stuck in there but i forgot to crop it in and just went straight for the render. I was in discussions with hans for several hours where he pointed out that perhaps a video would not have been the best way to tell the community and that perhaps a post on the forum would have been the better option, but as i see it info is info no matter the medium if this was a post it still would have caused this fire storm of snowflakes. hans told me not to post anything for 24 hours so CCP could make this announcement and prep for damage control this info would cause, sadly the timer ran out and still no post from CCP, so i regrettably posted this video to inform the community. I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions. I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain, this is information that should have been freely available on this forum and I felt I had to say or do something.
BEER TIME !
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1840
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:13:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote: The implicit message I am getting that is subtly hidden and tucked away is this:
"We're making the staff of a more EVE likened mindset which, even though none of us are Dust514 veterans but only casually play the game we will make game updates and patches that could be for the better or worse because we are basing it on what we feel is best without input from an actual veteran with feedback based on the forums that we may or may not heed".
I don't know if its you or me, but one of us doesn't understand what the Community Team means.
The REAL Internet King
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
469
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:20:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote: I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain
- Multiple threads containing the same link - Youtube video, complete with eye catching title, sad music and sad bamm havoc voice - Description in video and threads "I have received some bad news", making yourself out as the whistleblower - Bragging on skype that you knew something that others didn't, even though a lot of us already knew
I'm trying to be neutral to you bamm because your videos are decent and you genuinely are helpful, but this is not painting a good picture of you
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:30:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:ok I think perhaps its time to break cover...
i would like to again express my most heart felt sympathies for the losses of our Princes and thanks to CCP Frame for the clarity .
i admit to not handling the information in the most tactful way as i was and still am epicly pissed when i was told and i had made this video with the permission of SaberWing, ignore the last bit of it as that was an editing fail on my part there was meant to be a whole lot more said by me stuck in there but i forgot to crop it in and just went straight for the render. I was in discussions with hans for several hours where he pointed out that perhaps a video would not have been the best way to tell the community and that perhaps a post on the forum would have been the better option, but as i see it info is info no matter the medium if this was a post it still would have caused this fire storm of snowflakes. hans told me not to post anything for 24 hours so CCP could make this announcement and prep for damage control this info would cause, sadly the timer ran out and still no post from CCP, so i regrettably posted this video to inform the community. I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions. I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain, this is information that should have been freely available on this forum and I felt I had to say or do something.
CCP Falcon =/= CCP Frame :P
Overall; I do feel your video is what you claim it to be, your feelings and reaction and the raw information with a little speculation as possible. I know its not nice to hear such things; its even more worrisome to throw it out to the public in a malformed manner where nobody wins from it. You took the path of lesser damage to yourself and the community and I applaud you for at least being more grounded.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
435
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:30:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote: I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain
- Multiple threads containing the same link - Youtube video, complete with eye catching title, sad music and sad bamm havoc voice - Description in video and threads "I have received some bad news", making yourself out as the whistleblower - Bragging on skype that you knew something that others didn't, even though a lot of us already knew I'm trying to be neutral to you bamm because your videos are decent and you genuinely are helpful, but this is not painting a good picture of you
i refer you to my previous post sir and thanks
BEER TIME !
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
470
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:33:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote: I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain
- Multiple threads containing the same link - Youtube video, complete with eye catching title, sad music and sad bamm havoc voice - Description in video and threads "I have received some bad news", making yourself out as the whistleblower - Bragging on skype that you knew something that others didn't, even though a lot of us already knew I'm trying to be neutral to you bamm because your videos are decent and you genuinely are helpful, but this is not painting a good picture of you i refer you to my previous post sir and thanks
the quote was from your previous post
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SGL Sidearm champion
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Alim Azard
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
0
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:36:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Guys, I urge you to wait until you can hear more from CCP this coming week, there is some patently false information included in this video. There is most certainly community staff and devs at CCP for CPM1 to work with, this idea that CCP has left the community with nobody just isn't true. It's sad that Saberwing and Eterne as gone, but others will be stepping up and the work on both Dust and Legion will continue. "Keep calm, they will attempt to save their asses this week from looking bad." Looking forward to that blue tag post. I expect nothing but the best corporate speak and misdirection. Here's your blue tagged post, and no misdirection here at all. The fact of the matter is, we're not going to go out with a megaphone and start screaming the names of people who were let go out of both personal and professional courtesy for those involved. Feel free to say what you will about professional and personal courtesy, but extremely hard decisions had to be made over the last week and on a personal note, I'm completely devastated that two fantastic members of the Community Team, and two great friends and colleagues were let go. I wish both CCP Eterne and CCP Saberwing all the best for the future, and have no doubt in my mind that these two extremely talented guys will land firmly on their feet. Similarly, the CPM are also not going to start screaming names of people who were let go. The CPM is not, and never will be, a source of gossip for the community. Anyone who thinks so, can strip that mentality out of their heads. It's not going to happen. It's very true that the CPM have known about this since Friday (June 6), when I had a meeting with them at 20:00 UTC to discuss what has happened. They've acted extremely professionally over this, and have respected the fact that there are people behind these avatars, who've had their livelihoods and careers affected. I'd like to personally thank the CPM for the manner in which they've handled this news, for their display of professionalism and integrity in absorbing and dealing with this information. In the end, rest assured that development of DUST 514 and work on Project Legion remains unchanged, and will progress uninterrupted. In the same respect, the CPM will continue to function. CCP Logibro has been, and will continue to remain, the CPM Coordinator. This has been his role since he came to CCP, and will continue to be his role moving forward. He has done, and will continue to own the CPM project for as long as I remain Community Manager with CCP. The operation of, and future plans for the CPM will not be affected. If anything, going forward I'll be looking toward assisting CCP Logibro in pushing the CPM into the same, far more active role with DUST development that the CSM holds with EVE development. I do not believe that there is compromise when it comes to using the CPM's knowledge and voice to assist us. The CSM is in it's 9th term now, and there are a lot of lessons that have already been learned in the previous 8 terms that can be carried over into the operation of the CPM. On a note more concerning structure, the Community Team here at CCP has now been unified, which puts us in a position where all members of the team will now be working on community projects for DUST 514, Project Legion, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE Online going forward. The community team is now made up of: CCP Falcon CCP Frame CCP Gargant CCP Guard CCP Leeloo CCP Logibro CCP Phantom I'm in the position where I hold the role of Community Manager, which will include serving as Community Manager for DUST 514 at the very least temporarily until we sit down and redefine people's roles to cover everything that needs to be considered. Myself and the entire roster of the community team are seasoned veterans of New Eden, and we're on hand to make sure that you guys get the best experience possible. It's going to take us a little time to process all this, get over the fact that we've had to watch two really good friends and outstanding colleagues be let go, but I'm very confident that the team will pull together and deliver once we square things away. The reason that this message didn't come sooner is simple - we were dealing with some incredibly bad news and had to sit down and assess the situation before deciding how to move forward. We're human, just like you guys. With that in mind, my attitude may seem a bit short in this post, for that I apologize, I'm usually incredibly direct in the way I address people, and to add to that, it's been a very upsetting week for a lot of us here at CCP. In the same respect, I'm not going to tolerate rumor milling and the posting of blatant garbage regarding the CPM, or any of my friends and colleagues, including CCP staff and members of the Community. Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums. On that note, I'll extend the same offer I do to the EVE Community, because you guys are equally as important to the future of New Eden: If you have concerns, issues, or feel like you'd like clarification, either on the forums or in private, either feel free to EVEmail my Dev character, catch me on twitter at @CCP_Falcon or catch me here on the forums, and I'm more than happy to talk. Cheers, - F Becasue we can trust your lying ass when it comes to people loosing their jobs. Lets ask the WoD team, who you Verified were not loosing their jobs to both their families, them and the community at large 2 ******* days before CCP announced they were terminated.
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TunRa
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
627
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:48:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta...
You took my gif, back to FoxFour
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
3030
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:48:00 -
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Really... all I read these posts from Falcon is that "We're offloading the community representation of Dust 514/Legion to the Eve team, where they can put in whatever 'extra time' they have to Dust."
Its essentially an admission that Dust is dead and Legion (if its greenlit) will not be a standalone game, but more of a 'sidebar action game' for their more important player base set, their EVE subscribers. It would be foolish for anyone to expect that this does not mean significantly diminished player-dev interaction for CCPs non-Eve: Online games. It doesn't surprise me that this is happening for Valkyrie... consider their lack of PC support for that game will result in a player base about as large as Dust will have when it releases, but it does give a surprising admission to what they expect for Legion imo.
i can't say I'm surprised or even all that upset about it though, it was pretty much what we were all thinking, its just an official announcement to that effect. |
Grimmiers
578
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:49:00 -
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Damn I was looking forward to saberwings live dev interviews.
o7 to everyone let go. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15378
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:51:00 -
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TunRa wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta...
In reality its Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X-ray Yankee Zulu.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14283
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:TunRa wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta... In reality its Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X-ray Yankee Zulu.
Yep. I'm pretty sure it's already been mentioned as 'Bravo' rather than 'Beta' so there goes the Greek alphabet theory.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1811
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Posted - 2014.06.08 22:09:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:ok I think perhaps its time to break cover...
i would like to again express my most heart felt sympathies for the losses of our Princes and thanks to CCP Frame for the clarity .
i admit to not handling the information in the most tactful way as i was and still am epicly pissed when i was told and i had made this video with the permission of SaberWing, ignore the last bit of it as that was an editing fail on my part there was meant to be a whole lot more said by me stuck in there but i forgot to crop it in and just went straight for the render. I was in discussions with hans for several hours where he pointed out that perhaps a video would not have been the best way to tell the community and that perhaps a post on the forum would have been the better option, but as i see it info is info no matter the medium if this was a post it still would have caused this fire storm of snowflakes. hans told me not to post anything for 24 hours so CCP could make this announcement and prep for damage control this info would cause, sadly the timer ran out and still no post from CCP, so i regrettably posted this video to inform the community. I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions. I did no intend to create this fluster cluck and i did not do it for personal gain, this is information that should have been freely available on this forum and I felt I had to say or do something.
I'm really not surprised to see even more lies out of Pyrex, its his modus operandi - but I didn't expect them from you as well. Our conversation took place yesterday at 6pm Pacific time, and you posted this video roughly 16 hours later. But that's besides the point, you gave me your word that you'd let Falcon make the statement he had to make in this thread, before jumping the gun. We both agreed that it was better that CCP break the news and explain rather than you or Pyrex trying to play Mr. Breaking News. Regardless of the fact that you didn't wait even a full day before your post, there was no "24 hour" time limit discussed anyways. It's not my job to give permission or not, this was always CCP's news, not mine, not yours. All I ever asked was for you to be respectful to those involved by allowing our contacts in community team (Falcon and Logibro) make their announcement. You agreed to this, and than broke that trust. I'm saddened and disappointed, even moreso now that you're lying about the circumstances just to defend your mistake. I at least appreciate your apology on that front, for what its worth. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
1524
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Posted - 2014.06.08 22:15:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Anyone who wants to rumor mill and/or post garbage will be on the receiving end of a long summer vacation from the forums. Moody is good for Dust. Banning Moody would be bad for Dust. Please don't ban Moody :-)
BAMM HAVOC wrote: I understand that I may have most likely lost the respect of many if not all of you my fellow mercs and for what its worth I apologise for my actions.
No apology needed, friend. Your heart's in the right place. o7
Shoot scout with yes...
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7 Iron Oxide.
437
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Posted - 2014.06.08 23:27:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:
I'm really not surprised to see even more lies out of Pyrex, its his modus operandi - but I didn't expect them from you as well. Our conversation took place yesterday at 6pm Pacific time, and you posted this video roughly 16 hours later. But that's besides the point, you gave me your word that you'd let Falcon make the statement he had to make in this thread, before jumping the gun. We both agreed that it was better that CCP break the news and explain rather than you or Pyrex trying to play Mr. Breaking News. Regardless of the fact that you didn't wait even a full day before your post, there was no "24 hour" time limit discussed anyways. It's not my job to give permission or not, this was always CCP's news, not mine, not yours. All I ever asked was for you to be respectful to those involved by allowing our contacts in community team (Falcon and Logibro) make their announcement. You agreed to this, and than broke that trust. I'm saddened and disappointed, even moreso now that you're lying about the circumstances just to defend your mistake. I at least appreciate your apology on that front, for what its worth.
You have called me a coward and a liar, crossed the line there hans ...
All i did was call it as i saw it, leave pyrex out of this the decision was ultimately mine at the end of the day, the info was saberwings to share and he did so with me and i had his permission to use and express it in ANY form i saw fit. You had no say in how I delivered it, this fire storm of special snowflakes would have happen regardless of the medium I released it, Hans give me a break you have said some very unkind things here dude, i have apologised more than once now on many forms of media for my lack of tact which I might point out was my ONLY fault with this issue.
I am not going to apologise any more .
BEER TIME !
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
3030
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Posted - 2014.06.08 23:39:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote: You have called me a coward and a liar, crossed the line there hans ...
All i did was call it as i saw it, leave pyrex out of this the decision was ultimately mine at the end of the day, the info was saberwings to share and he did so with me and i had his permission to use and express it in ANY form i saw fit. You had no say in how I delivered it, this fire storm of special snowflakes would have happen regardless of the medium I released it, Hans give me a break you have said some very unkind things here dude, i have apologised more than once now on many forms of media for my lack of tact which I might point out was my ONLY fault with this issue.
I am not going to apologise any more .
You don't owe him anything BAMM. As a player it was your choice and right to disclose this information however you wish. It was courteous of you to ask saberwing but that's the extent of it. |
The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2014.06.08 23:52:00 -
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Calling out ALL the CPM's as community traitors sounds fair to me as nobody of them has ever represented a clear community view. They just kept on feeding us bs as CCP have for the past year.
CCP COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT: Jungian
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Tesfa Alem
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
141
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Posted - 2014.06.09 00:26:00 -
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07 Saberwing.
Also 07 for Bamm Havoc for making a tribute video about someone he knew who lost thier job. With saberwings blessings of course, so when the only person that matters in this context is cool with it, Just leave it at that.
Anyways i wish the best for everyone who lost thier jobs under no fault of their own.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2014.06.09 00:28:00 -
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TunRa wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:We'll see how Hotfix Beta, Charlie, Delta go... Technically it would be hot fix beta, gamma, delta... Thinks its confirmed for bravo charlie delta
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.06.09 00:35:00 -
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"I'm in a glass case of emotionnnn!"
Wow. This thread was a rollercoaster. First time I've read every post in the thread word for word.
Let me say that I wish Saberwing and Eterne the best. I always appreciated Saberwing's presence on the forums. He was one of us and his enthusiasm was infectious. I wish both gentlemen the best and I thank them for their contributions. Both performed well at their duties and surely will be missed.
Every relationship, no matter what it is, has its bumps in the road. It's how we proceed forward that defines us.
Thank you CCP Falcon for displaying tact in your post and for clearing things up for the community.
Though we may have different viewpoints, backgrounds and ideas, one thing remains surely remains. That we all want Dust to succeed. Some things get lost in translation, but we can set aside these differences and contribute positively to help the absolute vision of Dust come into fruition.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1815
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Posted - 2014.06.09 00:56:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Every relationship, no matter what it is, has its bumps in the road. It's how we proceed forward that defines us.
Thank you CCP Falcon for displaying tact in your post and for clearing things up for the community.
Though we may have different viewpoints, backgrounds and ideas, one thing remains surely remains. That we all want Dust to succeed. Some things get lost in translation, but we can set aside these differences and contribute positively to help the absolute vision of Dust come into fruition.
Thank you so much for this, very eloquently stated and I agree completely. My own frustration with this situation stems mainly from the fact that I see so much work to do ahead, and know that life is going to go on for both Dust and Legion regardless of the setbacks. And regardless of the false claims that there's no support for the community or the CPM moving forward. My tolerance for misinformation is low, and I will always aggressively defend the truth - but it all comes from a passion for the game and this community.
You're also absolutely right that any personal friction between me and BAMM also comes from that same passion for the game and community. BAMM's sadness and anger in the video is real, and I applaud his willingness to be vulnerable like that, even if we have our differences of opinion surrounding the circumstances. I'm always going to value his contributions and I hope (and know) he's going to be sticking around like the rest of us to continue that good work.
Disputes are common in periods of mourning, and I think its fair to say that's everyone's frame of mind right now and we're all suffering that burden. I've spoken with BAMM privately again and let him know I'm not out to burn any bridges or hold grudges, and I understand that there wasn't any malice or disrespect intended in the way this was handled. The feeling is mutual, of course.
I want to also thank CCP Falcon for stopping by and for his detailed explanation of the circumstances, this was always my goal throughout these events - even when arguing with BAMM. It's vital for the community to fully understand the transition inside CCP as soon as possible, preferably straight from the source and free from hyperbole. Now that its done and out in the open, I've no more to say about the issue. It's time to just let this heal and to get back to working on improving Dust.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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My Goodness, I haven't been here a while, I didn't even know! My sincerest sympathies to Saberwing and Eterne.
As for DUST it's self it was only a matter of time, they shot it in the foot, they were going to have to finish the job sooner or later!
Looks like its back to FPS Military Shooter 56
Monkey Mac - Just another pile of discarded ashes on the battlefield!
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