I would be glad to take part in pre-election events or to talk openly with the other candidates, but I must politely decline the invitation to join you in a private channel.

There is obvious 'bandwagoning' going on already with certain CPM candidates creating a 'clic' group so that when the voting system becomes live, they can receive votes by association.

Having a private chat channel controlled by others creates a two tier system putting certain candidates above others. "yes you may join my channel" attitude.

If you cannot see why Judge posted this or don't understand the concern this private chat channel creates regarding transparency, you are not fit to be a CPM.

There is obvious 'bandwagoning' going on already with certain CPM candidates creating a 'clic' group so that when the voting system becomes live, they can receive votes by association.

Having a private chat channel controlled by others creates a two tier system putting certain candidates above others. "yes you may join my channel" attitude.

If you cannot see why Judge posted this or don't understand the concern this private chat channel creates regarding transparency, you are not fit to be a CPM.

I can honestly say that Judges campaign just gained significant credibility already by doing this and shows a high level of integrity all round.

Every CPM1 candidate is welcome. It's not about collusion, there's no grand plot to try and create a specific group, it's a casual chat for all of the candidates to get to know each other. There's no plotting/planning going on. And the idea that we are trying to segregate the candidate pool is very far from the truth.

I actually do understand why Judge posted as such. I disagree with it, but I understand it. While the chat is private, there's, as of current... 17 current or former CPM1 candidates in it, and we let Hans in there too. It's roughly considered "off the record", but it's all just been a positive chat about the CPM current and future, game mechanics, current and future, and random camaraderie.

We also have a Skype channel for getting people on the Biomassed podcast if either he or you are interested. Bit more open, tends to just be people's AFKs and such which aren't stated in voice on the cast.

Let me use a metaphor here,

Back in the 70s in London, the police force was seen as massively corrupt, huge issues with freemasonry, many 'bent coppers' indeed. The police became a joke as to if they would help you or lock you up for crimes they couldn't solve.
When reform happened the view was taken that the service was an absolute joke and for it to ever work again (and be trusted) Its members had to be ethically whiter than white and the very model of open, transparent and clear.

CPM 0 was the former, a very unclear motive and grouping of ideas, distrust from some, suspicion from others

For CPM1 to save the project and be a shining example of the concept, it has to be whiter than white, clean, zero whiff of corruption, clear and open debate and public and open discussion at all times in the recognized mediums.

Already having a private channel (it is private btw) where CPM members and candidates create an 'in crowd' makes average players like myself very nervous.

With this voting system, association is everything, having a group of players who 'support and associate' with each other means vote rigging, pure and simple.

Dont get me wrong, im sure nothing underhand is going on but as we cannot ascertain that, the suspicion of it is the damaging element here and that is damage already done.

I shouldn't be having to explain this really. Its politics 101. The mere suggestion of corruption is enough to keep honest players away from initiatives like this.

Let me use a metaphor here,

Back in the 70s in London, the police force was seen as massively corrupt, huge issues with freemasonry, many 'bent coppers' indeed. The police became a joke as to if they would help you or lock you up for crimes they couldn't solve.
When reform happened the view was taken that the service was an absolute joke and for it to ever work again (and be trusted) Its members had to be ethically whiter than white and the very model of open, transparent and clear.

CPM 0 was the former, a very unclear motive and grouping of ideas, distrust from some, suspicion from others

For CPM1 to save the project and be a shining example of the concept, it has to be whiter than white, clean, zero whiff of corruption, clear and open debate and public and open discussion at all times in the recognized mediums.

Already having a private channel (it is private btw) where CPM members and candidates create an 'in crowd' makes average players like myself very nervous.

With this voting system, association is everything, having a group of players who 'support and associate' with each other means vote rigging, pure and simple.

Dont get me wrong, im sure nothing underhand is going on but as we cannot ascertain that, the suspicion of it is the damaging element here and that is damage already done.

I shouldn't be having to explain this really. Its politics 101. The mere suggestion of corruption is enough to keep honest players away from initiatives like this.

Collaboration is working with each other to do a task and to achieve shared goals. It is a recursive process where two or more people or organizations work together to realize shared goals, (this is more than the intersection of common goals seen in co-operative ventures, but a deep, collective determination to reach an identical objective[by whom?][original research?]) GÇö for example, an endeavor that is creative in natureGÇöby sharing knowledge, learning and building consensus. Most collaboration requires leadership, although the form of leadership can be social within a decentralized and egalitarian group. In particular, teams that work collaboratively can obtain greater resources, recognition and reward when facing competition for finite resources. Collaboration is also present in opposing goals exhibiting the notion of adversarial collaboration, though this is not a common case for using the word.

Structured methods of collaboration encourage introspection of behavior and communication. These methods specifically aim to increase the success of teams as they engage in collaborative problem solving. Forms, rubrics, charts and graphs are useful in these situations to objectively document personal traits with the goal of improving performance in current and future projects.

Hey guys, I realized we're a bit behind on this, so let me just put this out there:

If you've announced candidacy for CPM1, please post or send me your Skype username if I don't already have it. I'd like to get you into the candidate chat we have going on Skype, and we can also might be able to get you a spot on the Biomassed podcast.

For those who don't have Skype... Get Skype.

To be perfectly clear, I am saying without micing words, thait it is elitist. Judge is getting public invites to join, where as I announced my candidacy more than a week ago and have not even been adressed by you, or jackal

Let me use a metaphor here,

Back in the 70s in London, the police force was seen as massively corrupt, huge issues with freemasonry, many 'bent coppers' indeed. The police became a joke as to if they would help you or lock you up for crimes they couldn't solve.
When reform happened the view was taken that the service was an absolute joke and for it to ever work again (and be trusted) Its members had to be ethically whiter than white and the very model of open, transparent and clear.

CPM 0 was the former, a very unclear motive and grouping of ideas, distrust from some, suspicion from others

For CPM1 to save the project and be a shining example of the concept, it has to be whiter than white, clean, zero whiff of corruption, clear and open debate and public and open discussion at all times in the recognized mediums.

Already having a private channel (it is private btw) where CPM members and candidates create an 'in crowd' makes average players like myself very nervous.

With this voting system, association is everything, having a group of players who 'support and associate' with each other means vote rigging, pure and simple.

Dont get me wrong, im sure nothing underhand is going on but as we cannot ascertain that, the suspicion of it is the damaging element here and that is damage already done.

I shouldn't be having to explain this really. Its politics 101. The mere suggestion of corruption is enough to keep honest players away from initiatives like this.

Dont get me wrong, i'm sure nothing underhand is going on but as we cannot ascertain that, the suspicion of it is the damaging element here and that is damage already done.

The point is, I am running against you. And against Judge. And anyone else thats going to occupy the 7 spots. Thats the crux of it. Coming out to ask to to joining your channel would first of all grant you an implicit leadership role, whch i cannot, and secondly turns it into a private group of idividuals who are actively seeking to influence dust, and by all means the political outcome of this election as well. That is kind of a elitist as it gets. ''Running for CPM? Join me and we'll work things out amognst our selves'' is a much poorer option than coming onto the forums where everyone can see everything, even if we deicde to work as a group ahead of the elections or not. Transparency was one of the biggest issues of CPM0, itss better to not have that obscured already in CPM1.

There isn't a leadership role, its just a chat channel, anyone in the channel can invite anyone else

Again, the chat is to allow candidates to get to know other candidates and from friendships before the elections, "CPM" work is still done on the forums

I dont see how its influencing the votes, considering that you can only vote for candidates and every single candidate has been invited into the chat

Let me use a metaphor here,

Back in the 70s in London, the police force was seen as massively corrupt, huge issues with freemasonry, many 'bent coppers' indeed. The police became a joke as to if they would help you or lock you up for crimes they couldn't solve.
When reform happened the view was taken that the service was an absolute joke and for it to ever work again (and be trusted) Its members had to be ethically whiter than white and the very model of open, transparent and clear.

CPM 0 was the former, a very unclear motive and grouping of ideas, distrust from some, suspicion from others

For CPM1 to save the project and be a shining example of the concept, it has to be whiter than white, clean, zero whiff of corruption, clear and open debate and public and open discussion at all times in the recognized mediums.

Already having a private channel (it is private btw) where CPM members and candidates create an 'in crowd' makes average players like myself very nervous.

With this voting system, association is everything, having a group of players who 'support and associate' with each other means vote rigging, pure and simple.

Dont get me wrong, im sure nothing underhand is going on but as we cannot ascertain that, the suspicion of it is the damaging element here and that is damage already done.

I shouldn't be having to explain this really. Its politics 101. The mere suggestion of corruption is enough to keep honest players away from initiatives like this.

I think the real question is why can't everyone be added to this so called CPM1 channel ?

I'm not running but why can't I be in there ?

There's the "Elitist" attitude right there, the CPM isn't above the community, it's for the community

The channel in-game is public access and we have non-candidates in the skype channel. There are a -lot- of players in this channel, however, and keeping it restricted to a candidates and their invitations keeps it both focused, as well as prevents unnecessary / unrelated chatter.

The CPM is an elected body of seven members, but it only becomes a body once elected. Until the community at large select those to represent them; we are members of that same community just like everyone else, which we remain even after we are elected. We are simply individual players with an interest to assist the game; Nothing more. Being a candidate is not a position, it is a label. A simple sign of intent, and one that we give ourselves; not one that has been earned. Until the community decide that we are something, we are nothing. We must never seek to separate ourselves from them, elevate ourselves above them or decide things in their absence.

Anything I need to say about the elections, the process after or to anyone involved I would like to say out here, in the public sphere. I cannot envision anything I would need to say to a candidate that cannot be said in the communityGÇÖs space for all to see. Here the players can judge me on everything I say and how I treat my fellow candidates. Nothing hidden, no closed doors, no hidden agendas.

I would be glad to take part in pre-election events or to talk openly with the other candidates, but I must politely decline the invitation to join you in a private channel.

If a country held an election in which every single candidate were privately organized amongst themselves about who would do what when they were elected, those elections would be considered fraudulent. Or a football leagye where very team hung out and discussed everything up to the last minute before kickoff. To suggest there would'nt be riggiing of some sort going on would be ludicrous. These actions are taking us back down the road towards CPM0. It simply doesn't work in a competitiion.

To be perfectly clear, I am saying without micing words, thait it is elitist. Judge is getting public invites to join, where as I announced my candidacy more than a week ago and have not even been adressed by you, or jackal, who seem more intent on getting Judge's established credebility onto thier campaigns than creating an open public debate that coud help or hinder you verses the competition. Which we all are.

I log into the CPM1 Candidates channel every time I'm online which is alot and this is a good place to see how often the CPM1 hopefuls are online/play, the fact that you "have" people in this channel already that aren't CPM candidates is good to a degree however the "restricted" nature doesn't leave alot to transparency of the current CPM1 candidates in this channel, your want to keep it focused is admirable however the defence for this reason alone isn't enough. I almost feel like you need a governing body already.

Lol, this whole thing has been blown waaay out of proportion straight into crazy conspiracy theory territory. Going to need Snopes to debunk all this by the end of the night.

Listen, It's not my channel - I've advocated since the beginning of my campaign that anyone who wants to speak with me is more than welcome to bring their concerns to me in any way they see fit, whether it be on the forums, skype, e-mail, twitter, what have you... But it's common courtesy not to invite someone when you yourself are a guest. If you -really- want in on the channel, I'd suggest speaking to The Black Jackal as he is who invited me.

I don't know who owns the channel, I don't know who's an admin - never really cared because this is just one of those things that isn't a problem until someone conjures up a reason for it to be a problem. As previously stated, I'm fully available to any and all who want my attention, but the CPM1 Candidates channel isn't mine to dictate who comes and goes.