The butthurt is immensely strong in this one.

Did you sell your account already, Dust Fiend?

I've always been cool to you, and you have accomplished an amazing 180 in your view of this whole thing since the dust news dropped. I'm pretty confused as to why you'd mock me given Aeon's disconnect from the situation.

I have a habit of knee jerk reactions, it's a problem lol.

As I've said and will continue to say, how they handled this whole reveal was nothing short of a spectacular fail, but I respect CCP for owning up to their mistake that is DUST on the PS3. I was this close to quitting the game for good because I knew that DUST would never become what it was originally envisioned to be, on the PS3.

I've just decided that I can sit here and be negative, or I can be positive. I'd rather look the future than wallow in the past. Worst case scenario, I just forget CCP and go play other games. There are plenty out there.

You win some and you lose some, that's just life.

What a load of BS. PC offers nothing that's better than PS except for graphics which most ppl here don't give a damn about. I love your logic: "CCP hired a bunch of incompetent ppl that held positions high enough to talk on the behalf of CCP but it's not CCP's fault that a) they chose dated hardware and promised to stick with it b) made all the improbable promises c) had garbage pile execution or even total abandonment of things that could have been done and had been done with ease by other developers on PS3 YEARS AGO d) jumping ship now after milking the community dry.

I'm going to get banned aren't I?

But this game was supposed to be persistent and everyone was looking and thinking long term.

I have a habit of knee jerk reactions, it's a problem lol.

As I've said and will continue to say, how they handled this whole reveal was nothing short of a spectacular fail, but I respect CCP for owning up to their mistake that is DUST on the PS3. I was this close to quitting the game for good because I knew that DUST would never become what it was originally envisioned to be, on the PS3.

I've just decided that I can sit here and be negative, or I can be positive. I'd rather look the future than wallow in the past. Worst case scenario, I just forget CCP and go play other games. There are plenty out there.

You win some and you lose some, that's just life.

I don't even have words.

I can only imagine a child wrote this.

DUST was an interesting concept that began in 2009. It's clear that the game was a mistake and Legion looks like a promising way to salvage the wreckage. If you can't understand how a PC is more powerful than a PS3 in 2014, then I'm really sorry. It doesn't just provide better graphics.

COX Z had a glorious layout of the gameplay changes and how they're implementing character progression. It's just conceptual at the moment, but I feel it's far better in the long haul. Things like ditching skill levels in favor of single-cost unlocks, role-based progressions with meaningful skill trees to associate with them and the nyxxing of power levels (advanced/proto nonsense). There's a lot more than graphical bits but the graphical bits do play a lot more of a role like thick fog that lessens your vision and more deadly weather aspects like meteor showers.

Let me repeat some things as your responses are becoming repetitive of a common theme.

This dev team guiding Dust to where it needs to be? Not the same team as back in 2013. Most of those devs are gone for whatever speculatory reason, and with them any promises they over-hyped. All of this stuff about "Oh, they promised us MTACs soon not TMtm" or what have you. It's pretty much clear, and has been for a while, that those promises were from someone who clearly overestimated their capabilities and we now have a much more competent, focused team with a clear and set goal that is 100% unmistakable, even though it may not be for consoles just yet, and that is to make Dust what it was promised.

Yes, it's a real in. Yes, it's a rehash. Yes, it has all the bells and whistles, but more importantly it has a STAGGERING increase in quality from what we have now. I mean, FFS you can't even hear anything behind you in Dust because of an animation optimization to make the game run better - that's not good, that's very very bad and those compromises are what was holding Dust back. So, yes, it's not promising new content but it is functional from what we've seen and largely capable.

And as far as all the sales? Back in 1.4 they had a sale on contact grenades. Why? Because they were selling like hotcakes. Why? Because they were broken, but inevitably marketing was doing their job just without context. It's a completely separate issue though and has nothing to do with anything related to Fanfest other than a sense of betrayal but the community was going to feel that no matter what, to be quite frank.

Focus on the future, not the past. Legion is leaps and bounds ahead of what we have and it's time to shift our feedback to making it stellar, while hitting up the low hanging fruit in Dust.

Aeon, you don't get it do you?

I'm not mad that Legion is coming to PC, I'm mad how CCP handled Dust at Fanfest. There was zero mention of Dust on all of the presentations. They have no roadmap on keeping Dust alive until Legion comes. Rouge and Praetorian put all their cards on an alpha, giving the current Dust community nothing. They were making stuff up on the go as to character transfer. All the presentations were labeled "Dust 514" but all of them were about Project Legion. That's like you'd go to watch the EVE keynote and the entire keynote was about Valkyrie and no real EVE keynote was coming.

They may talk about keeping Dust alive, but the fact is they didn't have anything prepared for Fanfest which would assure us of that. Rouge himself told us to wait a few weeks (weeks!) before we get more information on that - this means they did nothing but Legion in the last months, not even thinking about Dust...

Oh, I get it full and well because it's being repeated by everyone in every amount of flowery language that somehow led it different. It's pretty clear, ifs simple, CCP screwed up their presentation and console players feel alienated with more or less all players feeling betrayed. I TOTALLY GET THAT. But, we've got to move forward. We can't get stuck up on 100% development on the PS3 because it is an aging console that never should have had Dust in the first place.

And no, they didn't just "make up" the character transfer bit as they went along. There's more that goes on then people realize and it's certainly easy to assume things from the stream or recorded videos but I'm telling you that it's not the case.

Likely my final comment here as many people are just repeating the same thing at this point. That and I have a plane to catch.

Oh, I get it full and well because it's being repeated by everyone in every amount of flowery language that somehow led it different. It's pretty clear, ifs simple, CCP screwed up their presentation and console players feel alienated with more or less all players feeling betrayed. I TOTALLY GET THAT. But, we've got to move forward. We can't get stuck up on 100% development on the PS3 because it is an aging console that never should have had Dust in the first place.

And no, they didn't just "make up" the character transfer bit as they went along. There's more that goes on then people realize and it's certainly easy to assume things from the stream or recorded videos but I'm telling you that it's not the case.

Likely my final comment here as many people are just repeating the same thing at this point. That and I have a plane to catch.

I'm going to like every single on of your posts in this thread, because it is exactly how I think about it too. I don't get why people want the game on a $400 Console, but not on a $400 PC though. Just for some arbitrary rule they set for themselves that they're 'console' gamers and should not get a PC.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-build-your-own-steam-box/#!H9yx6 PC gaming, for Console prices.

Yes, Dust won't see any progress on a bad console as the PS3, I know that, everyone else knows that, but crapping on most of your players that's been sticking with them on this terrible game by going to PC instead of PS4 is just disrespectful to your players. You keep saying PS4 isn't ruled out for sometime in the far future, but honestly I don't care about that. They've chosen to go to PC first leaving their current players behind and because of that I really hope the terrible Shanghai studio (because you know it's going to be same bad devs developing Legion right?) fucks Legion up. The Dust players are not interested in waiting 3-4+ years to see Legion on the PS4 only to be 2nd grade citizens behind CCP's beloved EVE players.

jeez, how many times do people have to hear this. We DO want legion on PC. We would have been happy with Dust on PC. But we also want it on PS4 because we're console gamers and not all of us want to spend the time or have the know-how to try and build a nice fancy computer when we can just buy a PS4 and sleep well knowing we will have NO compatibility issues with all PS4 games from now to kingdom come! I don't want to be worrying if the next version of the next hyped game will have to be run on medium settings because I don't have a fast enough graphics card.

It has nothing to do with some "arbitrary" rule. Btw, we're cool with there being a PC port of the game we love because "more players!!!" but we don't want to be left out of the loop because "oh sorry, no console." Also, my money is limited. I would rather buy a 400 ps4 than an 800 dollar pc, especially since I have a laptop that does everything I need from a PC right now.

More meaningful character progression...

This character progression looks less like EVE. Something I'm not a fan of.

This character progression looks less like EVE. Something I'm not a fan of.

So, you're saying that I should have hope in CCP?

He's running a personal PR campaign, trying to flip the script.

"they want to make sure it works before they make any kind of promises they can't keep"

That whole paragraph suggests CCP has learned some valuable lesson recently and they are now a much better company. Elsewhere he blames employees who no longer work there. It is almost genius his timing and tactic, this horrible thing that we're screwing you on.... its a good thing a good thing a good thing. We didn't take your time or money on false pretense ... nope

Lmfao, sure - you can take it like that but here's the facts: The guy who promised MTACs, Speeders, Fighters, Titan Insertion and all that jazz? He's gone. You don't think there's a reason for that? Pure coincidence?

They -are- a much better company because they hired more than a dozen positions recently, with CCP Rouge and CCP Z being two -amazing- additions to the team that have completely polarized those previous intentions in favor of something awesome. Setting aside the console vs PC war, what we saw was gorgeous and the presentation discussed everything we've been asking for. What's not to love?

Even if you want to use the time/money argument, you really can't because they've already said that Character Transfer is a green light. Your time won't be meaningless, your money likely refunded or transmuted into something of similar value. So what's the problem?