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Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:41:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
I can see the truth of this statement, to a certain extent. However...fact is, Dust is tacitly and, with your statement, openly, been let go of. I don't think that CCP was fair, or particularly honest, in how it handled this. I enjoyed the game while it lasted. I'll play another month and then I'm off to play Wildstar, an actual MMO with elements of a shooter. I'm distressed that you have handled this community this way--I'll be avoiding future CCP products.
Dammit. I had such hopes for this. I even have boosters going through, like, August or September. I put my money down on this bet and lost. Bummer. It's been a good ride. (When I wasn't being destroyed by random pixels, hit by jihad jeeps, annihilated by another tank, protostomped while learning how to use an item, screamed at by teammates who "knew better", mashed because I spawned on a point that wouldn't let me move.....etc.)
/fades away
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2378
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 -
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Seeth Mensch wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. I can see the truth of this statement, to a certain extent. However...fact is, Dust is tacitly and, with your statement, openly, been let go of. I don't think that CCP was fair, or particularly honest, in how it handled this. I enjoyed the game while it lasted. I'll play another month and then I'm off to play Wildstar, an actual MMO with elements of a shooter. I'm distressed that you have handled this community this way--I'll be avoiding future CCP products. Dammit. I had such hopes for this. I even have boosters going through, like, August or September. I put my money down on this bet and lost. Bummer. It's been a good ride. (When I wasn't being destroyed by random pixels, hit by jihad jeeps, annihilated by another tank, protostomped while learning how to use an item, screamed at by teammates who "knew better", mashed because I spawned on a point that wouldn't let me move.....etc.) Get a refund for all those boosters
1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support.
Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
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Cyrus Militani
Leon Conglomerate
19
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:46:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
Any policy issues should have been resolved months before Legion was announced. We need a guarantee from CCP that player progression (lifetime SP) will be somehow equated to Legion. ISK be dammed.
I would also would like to hear that Legion development will be following TDD. Many of the bugs in DUST, especially in 1.8, feels like this wasn't the case in the past. |
Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
240
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:47:00 -
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]Seeth Mensch wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:[quote=Skihids]DUST is dead, long live Legion. T I can see the truth of this statement, to a certain extent. However...fact is, Dust is tacitly and, with your statement, openly, been let go of. I don't think that CCP was fair, or particularly honest, in how it handled this. I enjoyed the game while it lasted. I'll play another month and then I'm off to play Wildstar, an actual MMO with elements of a shooter. I'm distressed that you have handled this community this way--I'll be avoiding future CCP products. Dammit. I had such hopes for this. I even have boosters going through, like, August or September. I put my money down on this bet and lost. Bummer. It's been a good ride. (When I wasn't being destroyed by random pixels, hit by jihad jeeps, annihilated by another tank, protostomped while learning how to use an item, screamed at by teammates who "knew better", mashed because I spawned on a point that wouldn't let me move.....etc.) Get a refund for all those boosters
Eh, I played for $200 since last July. That's a pretty damned reasonable return on my investment already. Frankly, I'm just tired of seeing how their customers are handled, and I will deal with it the old fashioned way.
Leave.
/fades away
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Kevkahn
WarRavens Final Resolution.
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:07:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote: No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios).
When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. Basically I want to say that I know our game can go away at any time and I am just a player. As a person whose family has 4 Dren sets, at least 7 Raven suits, at least 7 Covenant Sets, at least 7 Sever suits, and uncounted amount of Aurum for boosters on all the different characters; I put money into this game. How can I trust you to put as much investment into the game as I have when you are jumping ship to a separate gane? Even worse, it seems to be the same game just on a different server.
Until you earn back my faith, you will not see another dime of my vast recreational funds.
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Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
186
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:10:00 -
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If they let people transfer from Dust to Legion, it will just mean Legion will be starting out with the lack of balance Dust has... Everything should be new... If you spent $600 on this, well you wasted your money... Everyone wastes money on something at some point of their life, congrats you wont do it again, lol. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
297
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:12:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
And if you can't - What is Plan B? How about that - Can you give us a ....." If we can't we will do this" |
SirManBoy
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
544
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:14:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:If they let people transfer from Dust to Legion, it will just mean Legion will be starting out with the lack of balance Dust has... Everything should be new... If you spent $600 on this, well you wasted your money... Everyone wastes money on something at some point of their life, congrats you wont do it again, lol.
You are an idiot. |
Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
298
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:24:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
Question: Why does the progression system, items and Isk all have to work differently? Just because the new director wants everything different? |
crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2460
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:29:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. Question: Why does the progression system, items and Isk all have to work differently? Just because the new director wants everything different?
RIGHT? It sounds like legion could be done in half the time, but they don't care about player feedback, it's so stupid.
1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support.
Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
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Athena Sentinel
SOE Knights Templar
299
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:33:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. Question: Why does the progression system, items and Isk all have to work differently? Just because the new director wants everything different? RIGHT? It sounds like legion could be done in half the time, but they don't care about player feedback, it's so stupid.
They used Dust as a pilot and made some money doing it. Smart no? just not friendly to player base.
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2460
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:36:00 -
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but why change everything?
1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support.
Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
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Bulldozza Smash
Ultramarine Corp
29
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:26:00 -
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Well this is ******* BS.... To all those DUSTies like me that stuck by CCP why they tuned this game, and waited with high hopes for a FPS to dominate the console world with its great ideas and vast options.... WE HAVE BEEN SHAFTED!
CCP go on about loving our feedback and giving the community a great game (while taking all our money in the process). To just turn around and **** us over... I am beyond ******* pissed off I seen CCP called crooks in this topic, I agree.
I think a speak for most (if not all) console games... CCP if your going to **** us at least buy us dinner first you cheap assholes
Bulldozza Smash
CEO
Ultramarine Corp
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2343
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:37:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'm not on IRC but they are saying that Logibro just said they won't be transferring characters
People misquoting me, I said exactly the same thing as I said here on IRC.
that youre a crook?
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2343
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:41:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. you owe us refunds.... crooks.... Why, exactly? There are two possibilities here: 1. Project Legion is considered a completely new game 2. Project Legion is an extension of Dust514 and they transfer over items you purchased Either way, how is a refund relevant? If it's a new game, then it's a new game. If it's the same game and they transfer what you bought (or giving you comparable deliverables if an exact one for one transfer is not available), then you aren't loosing anything. Other thoughts: 1. There is no release date for this new project. There could be years until this comes out. 2. If you get value for the service purchased, then a refund is more akin to gettting paid to play the game. The purpose of a refund is when you get no value. I cannot imagine you would put in money into something repeatedly if you got no value for it (if you make only one purchase, then that is the exception to this concept). I have spent a few hundred dollars as well. I enjoyed what I got from my purchases. I don't see a need for a refund, and won't be asking for one. Being upset is fine - you are entitled to your emotions. Once those have run their course, I would suggest looking back again. And for those that have verbally attacked people over this, shame on you. (not in reference to anyone specifically, just a general comment)
I don't understand why after all the crap ccp has pulled on us with dust you fanbois still swing your d*cks for them.... how much backstabbing and lying and utter bullshite will you fanbois put up with before you wake the hell up and realize your ccp gods are just smooth talking thieves?
this game makes me sad....
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RolyatDerTeufel
1763
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:47:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
Why was this NOT thought of from the get go ?
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Charon B
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
12
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:03:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
shut up DEV. Nobody wants to hear your crap.
90 Day AUR Refunds! Call 1-800-345-SONY
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2346
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:04:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. Why was this NOT thought of from the get go ?
exactly....
this game makes me sad....
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
571
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:06:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. "Trust me", "Trust me". I wont trust you.
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Kratek Heshan
United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance
42
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:08:00 -
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i saw the legion vid the ps3 and ps4 can handle that grapics its like killzone 3 grapics i'll be proud if the grapics is like killzone shadowfall but its not its still the same they just add little effects and new map thats there promise to us last fanfest |
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:38:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:
No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios).
When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
Convert experience by taking a record of all isk and SP earned under a batch text file, run that through the system to chart over the characters, then switch over the character titles to the newly created files. Hand out ID#'s to players so you can more reliably connect them across the media without having to directly link the two. If someone wants to transfer, they simply enter their ID to create a character via a web page and it reads from the batch file.
The experience system if SP is to be implemented would then be scaled by %, and no need to really change the ISK, you could have it as an alternate currency and call it KSI or something, which would then be convertible to normal currency within a few weeks.
Red5 a very new company already did transfers like this, complete with a currency overhaul AND conversion to the new system, and they did them well. CCP is MUCH larger than Red5 and so this should be simplistic.
Items held that are extras would be converted to ISK directly, except for special items like BPO's which could be turned into redemption coupons so that one could regain the BPO in it's new form when it becomes available...
The only actual boundary is legal spacing between Sony and the character titles.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Cotsy
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
68
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:40:00 -
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SirManBoy wrote:I have spent well over $600 supporting this game and my character has nearly 50 millions SP and over 400 million ISK. Personally, I think it would be unforgivable if CCP didn't allow Dust mercs to bring their skills and spoils with them to the new platform.
They wouldn't dare stiff us, right?
Maybe i already answered but song owns the rights to the data. CCP cannot transfer anything or take any info over because it doesn't belong to them. You don't get stuff refunded or any sort of bonus because they won't be allowed or they will get sued. Logi bro stated it and its been discussed. Sony owns the data |
Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
267
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:48:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. Just remember, in New Eden we aren't just players. We are soldiers, and many of us are veterans of major conflicts and bared witness to some of the greatest battles yet seen. If you don't let these characters transfer, you are killing off an entire generation of history.
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Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
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Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
11
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:49:00 -
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I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players?
Does anybody else feel like they found poo in their cereal box instead of a toy? Surprise!
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
776
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:29:00 -
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Harold Junk wrote:I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players? Like how they try to sell EVE Online to new players? I truly doubt that they care about experienced players being inside the game, because eventually that is what you'll have to face every day.
A bigger concern is how to integrate new players into the population with high level players everywhere.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2480
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:09:00 -
[206] - Quote
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Harold Junk wrote:I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players? Like how they try to sell EVE Online to new players? I truly doubt that they care about experienced players being inside the game, because eventually that is what you'll have to face every day. A bigger concern is how to integrate new players into the population with high level players everywhere. Exactly. Dust is suppose to be designed to last 10 years. Having a starting point with high level and low level players would be the best way to start the game...
Think about it. It's the best way to start off with real balance. We won't need to go through growing pains 2 years into legion when the game has a problem bring in newer players while there are a ton of vets. Starting off the game with vets means less dev time wasted. We can avoid the problem altogether and get the balance between newplayers and vets right from the start.
1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support.
Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
190
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:10:00 -
[207] - Quote
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Harold Junk wrote:I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players? Like how they try to sell EVE Online to new players? I truly doubt that they care about experienced players being inside the game, because eventually that is what you'll have to face every day. A bigger concern is how to integrate new players into the population with high level players everywhere.
With good matchmaking and PVE content this shouldnt be a problem. Has WOW had new player problems, just because it had the first masses of lvl 60 guys after the first few weeks? No it hadnt. It ran for many more years successfully.
Most here seem to think in terms of Dust, as it is now. Dust as it is doesnt allow for more players than the rock-bottom state it has had for its lifetime. Turning it down wont cause high losses (cause there hasnt been many profits to begin with). Letting it stand in the way of a new better game would.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
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Casual solo
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2480
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:15:00 -
[208] - Quote
Hansei Kaizen wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Harold Junk wrote:I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players? Like how they try to sell EVE Online to new players? I truly doubt that they care about experienced players being inside the game, because eventually that is what you'll have to face every day. A bigger concern is how to integrate new players into the population with high level players everywhere. With good matchmaking and PVE content this shouldnt be a problem. Has WOW had new player problems, just because it had the first masses of lvl 60 guys after the first few weeks? No it hadnt. It ran for many more years successfully. Most here seem to think in terms of Dust, as it is now. Dust as it is doesnt allow for more players than the rock-bottom state it has had for its lifetime. Turning it down wont cause high losses (cause there hasnt been many profits to begin with). Letting it stand in the way of a new better game would.
Dust needs to be released on PC, NOT LEGION. Let us have Dust 514 on Ps3 for a year, and then close it down and port dust 514 to PC. Don't throw away all of the work you've done, it's still unreal 3. People invested in a game that will last forever, this sets a terrible example... Before today I would never of said that something like, EvE 2.0 as a seperate 2nd MMO would come out and run aside the original. Like EverQuest and Everquest2. But here we are, 1 year into Dust and the game is getting a spinoff...
So why not, Eve online 2.0! You can still play the old Eve Online, or you can play the new super awesome Eve Online, but you have to start over from level 1. JUST NO.
I can't believe my EvE brothers aren't seeing the issue here... Also what's stopping legion from being replaced again in 4 years? Having a wipe 4 years from now does no get me interested in Legion...
1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support.
Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
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Waruiko DUST
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
155
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:15:00 -
[209] - Quote
Dust Isk isn't so important in reguards to transfer I think. Awarded items like the Black Eagle suits, and anything thats worth AUR can either be transferred in some capacity even if only as a placeholder token to keep track of the fact that you had it, while AUR items can be refunded for their value. It would be a good time to get rid of all those AUR BPOs CCP seems to hate.
If blood and sweat don't teach them perhaps time will
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2481
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:27:00 -
[210] - Quote
I want my Skinweave suits, and my Dragonfly suit...
What if 1 year into eve they were like "Hey you know those closed beta golden and sliver magnates we gave you? Well eve is being abandoned for a new game that is exactly the same! The only difference is, you won't have your rewards for being with us since there were only 100 people on at a time.... >.>
Come on CCP ;_; Being part of Mordo's trials was suppose to mean something... Don't pull a NGE... ;_; don't revamp the sill system, go back to skrimish 1.0 when dust had the same eve system as Eve online. If it's going to be on PC don't use the dumb console SP progression system! GIVE US DUST ON PC.
I can't believe Legion won't even have levels1-5, just unlockable nodes. *sigh* That's not the game I signed up for as an eve player when you got me in CCP... Bring back the closed beta skill progression system, it was simple, no one was confused.
1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support.
Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
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