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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:27:00 -
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Jessica Montoya wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:[quote=Skihids]DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?"
As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.
so there is a chance even colectors edition items in dust won't be xfered over? there goes my fav gear for my fav race. :([/quot00e]
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:03:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Heavenly Daughter wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?"
As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. So you can't won't be able to confirm player form 514 and legion are the same players to allocate a certain amount of SP, even if they supply the same email address. Ballacks. SP is technically easier. SP is more a design question, tied into how the progression system changes.
And our AUR? Collection edition suits? Skinweave closed beta suits? |
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:20:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I'm not on IRC but they are saying that Logibro just said they won't be transferring characters
People misquoting me, I said exactly the same thing as I said here on IRC. Just be straight up honest CCP Logibro, is it worth our while or not? We DUST players are on PS3, Legion is PC. What benefit is it for us to be on here? I'll try to fight you in Destiny... Hopefully you'll be a hunter there 
Oh boy, 4v4 fps fun *roll eyes*
I actually can't wait for Destiny, but it's no real loss Dust replacement. |
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:25:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?"
As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. I am very concerned this information was not prepared ahead of time for presentation at Eve Fanfest. That feels poorly calculated.
So you finally noticed?
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:14:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:@crazy space 1
Getting through a lot of twitter responses at the moment. A better space to share information and frustration with circles beyond the game.
I actually meant since skirmish 1.0 was shown off in 2012 at fanfest then as "one of the smaller gamemodes" |
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:32:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:The issue of whether or not progress(SP, ISK, AUR, items) will carry over is important. Should I keep building up my character because my progress won't carry over or should I just play for fun because no progress will be carried over? Should I keep purchasing AUR?
This is one of those questions that players need a definite right now.
I supported CCP vision for Dust514 by spending money on it. I'm happy that this vision is being slowly being realized in EVE: Legion. But I would be lying if I said I wouldn't be a little upset or sad if my contribution didn't get me anything extra.
Both games with run side by side mate. How could they bring over your stuff?
They even keep sorta hinting that Legion might never be released!
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 -
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Seeth Mensch wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?"
As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. I can see the truth of this statement, to a certain extent. However...fact is, Dust is tacitly and, with your statement, openly, been let go of. I don't think that CCP was fair, or particularly honest, in how it handled this. I enjoyed the game while it lasted. I'll play another month and then I'm off to play Wildstar, an actual MMO with elements of a shooter. I'm distressed that you have handled this community this way--I'll be avoiding future CCP products. Dammit.  I had such hopes for this. I even have boosters going through, like, August or September. I put my money down on this bet and lost. Bummer. It's been a good ride. (When I wasn't being destroyed by random pixels, hit by jihad jeeps, annihilated by another tank, protostomped while learning how to use an item, screamed at by teammates who "knew better", mashed because I spawned on a point that wouldn't let me move.....etc.)
Get a refund for all those boosters
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:29:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Skihids wrote:DUST is dead, long live Legion.
That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?
CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?"
As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.
CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.
My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. Question: Why does the progression system, items and Isk all have to work differently? Just because the new director wants everything different?
RIGHT? It sounds like legion could be done in half the time, but they don't care about player feedback, it's so stupid.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:36:00 -
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but why change everything?
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:09:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Harold Junk wrote:I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players? Like how they try to sell EVE Online to new players? I truly doubt that they care about experienced players being inside the game, because eventually that is what you'll have to face every day. A bigger concern is how to integrate new players into the population with high level players everywhere.
Exactly. Dust is suppose to be designed to last 10 years. Having a starting point with high level and low level players would be the best way to start the game...
Think about it. It's the best way to start off with real balance. We won't need to go through growing pains 2 years into legion when the game has a problem bring in newer players while there are a ton of vets. Starting off the game with vets means less dev time wasted. We can avoid the problem altogether and get the balance between newplayers and vets right from the start.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:15:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Harold Junk wrote:I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players? Like how they try to sell EVE Online to new players? I truly doubt that they care about experienced players being inside the game, because eventually that is what you'll have to face every day. A bigger concern is how to integrate new players into the population with high level players everywhere. With good matchmaking and PVE content this shouldnt be a problem. Has WOW had new player problems, just because it had the first masses of lvl 60 guys after the first few weeks? No it hadnt. It ran for many more years successfully. Most here seem to think in terms of Dust, as it is now. Dust as it is doesnt allow for more players than the rock-bottom state it has had for its lifetime. Turning it down wont cause high losses (cause there hasnt been many profits to begin with). Letting it stand in the way of a new better game would.
Dust needs to be released on PC, NOT LEGION. Let us have Dust 514 on Ps3 for a year, and then close it down and port dust 514 to PC. Don't throw away all of the work you've done, it's still unreal 3. People invested in a game that will last forever, this sets a terrible example... Before today I would never of said that something like, EvE 2.0 as a seperate 2nd MMO would come out and run aside the original. Like EverQuest and Everquest2. But here we are, 1 year into Dust and the game is getting a spinoff...
So why not, Eve online 2.0! You can still play the old Eve Online, or you can play the new super awesome Eve Online, but you have to start over from level 1. JUST NO.
I can't believe my EvE brothers aren't seeing the issue here... Also what's stopping legion from being replaced again in 4 years? Having a wipe 4 years from now does no get me interested in Legion...
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:27:00 -
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I want my Skinweave suits, and my Dragonfly suit...
What if 1 year into eve they were like "Hey you know those closed beta golden and sliver magnates we gave you? Well eve is being abandoned for a new game that is exactly the same! The only difference is, you won't have your rewards for being with us since there were only 100 people on at a time.... >.>
Come on CCP ;_;
Being part of Mordo's trials was suppose to mean something... Don't pull a NGE... ;_; don't revamp the sill system, go back to skrimish 1.0 when dust had the same eve system as Eve online. If it's going to be on PC don't use the dumb console SP progression system! GIVE US DUST ON PC.
I can't believe Legion won't even have levels1-5, just unlockable nodes. *sigh* That's not the game I signed up for as an eve player when you got me in CCP... Bring back the closed beta skill progression system, it was simple, no one was confused.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:42:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Logibro are you for real dude ?
I think we al understand that the rerelease of dust have some issues.
We also understand that the economiy of the game can never progress if you don't do dramatic changes to it with al the accumulated crap we al have.
But the how you guys did this is a god dam joke.
What about the fu+ēking ppl that went to island? Or the sale of stuff just days before this?
About isk transfers and item transfers it would have been way more honest to say somthing like this.
Due to the fact that that the economiy have been broken so long we don't c any way to transfer that to dust 2,0 ( legion )
About the SP
We don't know how the transfer of SP is going to work sence this is going to be somthing TOTALY new, maybee not a strait sp transfer but given a higher "lvl" start based on your curent sp.
Yeah have a open and honest dabate with your players
Reposting censored incase a mod is feeling frisky.
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Posted - 2014.05.03 09:00:00 -
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Also At least give us our officer gear... We've been saving it for the market ... There is stuff we don't have the skills to use and we can't trash them...
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