DUST Search - How will CCP take care of us as we move from the PS3 to PC?

CCP Logibro wrote:

Skihids wrote:

DUST is dead, long live Legion.

That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that?

CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?"
As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level.

CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die.

My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight.

No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios).

When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet.

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Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 543	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:40:00 - [211] - Quote Logibro are you for real dude ? I think we al understand that the rerelease of dust have some issues. We also understand that the economiy of the game can never progress if you don't do dramatic changes to it with al the accumulated crap we al have. But the how you guys did this is a god dam joke. What about the fu+ºking ppl that went to island? Or the sale of stuff just days before this? About isk transfers and item transfers it would have been way more honest to say somthing like this. Due to the fact that that the economiy have been broken so long we don't c any way to transfer that to dust 2,0 ( legion ) About the SP We don't know how the transfer of SP is going to work sence this is going to be somthing TOTALY new, maybee not a strait sp transfer but given a higher "lvl" start based on your curent sp. Yeah have a open and honest dabate with your players insted of giving then the middle finger Soory for any bad English I can't be asked to be botherd War never changes
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2481	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:42:00 - [212] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Logibro are you for real dude ? I think we al understand that the rerelease of dust have some issues. We also understand that the economiy of the game can never progress if you don't do dramatic changes to it with al the accumulated crap we al have. But the how you guys did this is a god dam joke. What about the fu+ºking ppl that went to island? Or the sale of stuff just days before this? About isk transfers and item transfers it would have been way more honest to say somthing like this. Due to the fact that that the economiy have been broken so long we don't c any way to transfer that to dust 2,0 ( legion ) About the SP We don't know how the transfer of SP is going to work sence this is going to be somthing TOTALY new, maybee not a strait sp transfer but given a higher "lvl" start based on your curent sp. Yeah have a open and honest dabate with your players Reposting censored incase a mod is feeling frisky. 1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support. Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 502	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:57:00 - [213] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Skihids wrote: DUST is dead, long live Legion. That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that? CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level. CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die. My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. Really, I am thinking that SP is the only real aspect of what people are hoping not to lose. A years worth of grinding out SP, spending IRL money to boost it. It is a lot of investment. Compensation in the form of Unallocated SP to Eve Legion seems like a reasonable request. That way it is just a issue of SP value not having to assign SP to specific skill trees for each and every character. This can be done by just referencing that character's total SP when the name is transferred over. Create a Eve Legion account using the same Email as your PSN account > Select which character you want to transfer > Character Name and Total SP value of the character is transferred to the new platform. Seems pretty easy to me. Director, Dust University R.I.P. Dust 514
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2482	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:00:00 - [214] - Quote Also At least give us our officer gear... We've been saving it for the market ... There is stuff we don't have the skills to use and we can't trash them... 1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support. Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
negative49er Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 569	Posted - 2014.05.03 12:23:00 - [215] - Quote I only see character transfer possible if legion is ported onto the ps4 because our dust accounts are connected to our PSN Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber
drixon talaro Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 32	Posted - 2014.05.03 12:24:00 - [216] - Quote You know what I like.... The fact that logo to was posting in here heavy yesterday until right abt the time I made my first post..... The real questions start flying and poof, no more dev posts.... Thanks for making me understand that y'all don't care at all logibro
Balamob SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 28	Posted - 2014.05.03 14:54:00 - [217] - Quote I will miss my "Templar" blue print stuff :( Being a Templar is a vow for life.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4212	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:18:00 - [218] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Skihids wrote: CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" No, it's actually a matter of can we. You know what? I don't think I believe you. At best I think that statement is only true on a technicality. Sure, why the f*ck not?
KILLER 20965 Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:32:00 - [219] - Quote ** YOU CCP!!! *** BULLSHIT BITCHES CAN SUCK MY !!! GÇÿCLOSED BETAGÇÖ Player Mk.0 support Logistics** Learn about how logi's work.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13771	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:35:00 - [220] - Quote negative49er wrote: I only see character transfer possible if legion is ported onto the ps4 because our dust accounts are connected to our PSN Yet that information is stored on CCPs servers..... Our PSN accounts =/= our in game Characters. DUST is DEAD Quit?

Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 216	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:50:00 - [221] - Quote Never heard of such a catastrophe since Aliens: Colonial Marines. What a bunch of bull. "When it is done, and New Eden is...ashes, you have my permission to die." ~ CCP Board
Jvnx Nightchill Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners Universal Rockstars 2	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:51:00 - [222] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Skihids wrote: DUST is dead, long live Legion. That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that? CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level. CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die. My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. LOL, hmm, the special agreement with Sony that made DUST514 possible means all but the PSN id linked to an account should be on CCP servers, granted that would cause significant issues. Most apparent fallout of this is people will and already are leaving DUST, followed by Sony not offering the rapid deployment that DUST enjoyed so CCP not only screwed us the players but future developers. CCP was given every possible advantage possible to make DUST514 succeed, how tragic... My son as well as myself do not play FPS games on PC never will, so Legion is a non-starter for us.
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 583	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:08:00 - [223] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) All character borned and stored onto ccp servers Don't Tell me that I'm wrong and this site is monitoring Sony servers. ...sorry for bad English =)
Reaper Alim highland marines IMMORTAL REGIME 14	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:22:00 - [224] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: CCP don't give a rats asz about us on PS3 any more!! They got there PC player base now:-/ And I'll be there! :) It's not that CCP dosn't care it's just that sony keeps limiting them. Which is why they are moving back to the PC (Master Gaming Machines) to be free of all the restrictions that Sony keep putting on them. The vastness that is CCP needs to be on PC. Now watch the difference between DUST and Legion.
Reaper Alim highland marines IMMORTAL REGIME 15	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:31:00 - [225] - Quote Harold Junk wrote: I dunno, does CCP want a bunch of uber's in their game they're trying to sell to brand new players? I agree with you and the answer is probley no. What new player is going to want to enter a game where they'll have no chance for 6 to 8 months? I know I wouldn't not a game like Dust where you are punished badly for being killed and the lack of currency you have in-game makes life even harder. I say fresh restart CCP might lose the 1500 vets they got from Dust but will gain atleast 5 to 15 times more in new blood that'll stay with the game cause it is enjoyable.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4266	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:45:00 - [226] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Remember guys, its just a video game I've spent more on this game than Sir Man Boy has. And I did that based on the history of CCP and a long development cycle. If I was deceived as a customer in any transaction I'd be upset. I don't care myself. It's just a video game and like any video game I've played these past few years, I've paid money for the entertainment factor. I got what I paid for here. Life is too good to have this small situation upset me. I'll just move on to Destiny or any other game I appreciate and will forget about this And honestly, the community screwed this over too. So some of that money loss is on the blame of the community as well. No one wants to say or see that though. But that is true. We hacked this game with a meat cleaver sending ideas into a whirlwind. I'm just going to crack open a beer, smoke a bowl and move on. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
BioClone Ax-45 Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 41	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:47:00 - [227] - Quote Reaper Alim wrote: Meknow Intaki wrote: CCP don't give a rats asz about us on PS3 any more!! They got there PC player base now:-/ And I'll be there! :) It's not that CCP dosn't care it's just that sony keeps limiting them. Which is why they are moving back to the PC (Master Gaming Machines) to be free of all the restrictions that Sony keep putting on them. The vastness that is CCP needs to be on PC. Now watch the difference between DUST and Legion. what? Im sure the only problen there is its that to log in into our D514 characters we go across the PSN, which say if we are the owners or not of that character, and I suppose CCP cant take that data about accounts from Sony... but anyways market, characters and mail its on the CCPs side. They can easily make a web page special for this, and send to every D514 character a Ingame message with a link that identifies that user and links he to the web to later continue the steps to "recover" the account, same way a lot of games do to recover passwords using the mail, just that 4 this I mean using D514 mail, not other real ones (Hotmail, yahoo, etc..) *Soz for my bad english, hope you can understand it.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 690	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:57:00 - [228] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Skihids wrote: DUST is dead, long live Legion. That's what it sounds like with every DUST presentation being about Legion. Weren't we promised a new build we could actually play at FF? What happened to that? CCP is hedging about character transfer, but it's not a question of "can they?". It's a matter of "do they want to?" As was pointed out EVE still gets new subscriptions with 10 year old characters in the game, so starting with high level players is either not a problem or it will kill the game inside two years regardless as new players gain the same level. CCP really needs to admit their plans for transfer right now, or folks will have to assume they mean to let all your DUST toons die. My assumption is that they aren't saying because they know that making the call to make DUST a dead end will turn it into a ghost town overnight. No, it's actually a matter of can we. There are technical questions and restrictions, policy questions (with Sony) and design questions (how do we convert experience when the progression system is different, items are different and ISK works in different ratios). When we can answer the questions above, we'll share with you. Trust me when we say we want to let people carry over progress. But we just honestly don't know if we can do so yet. How the ** can you say, "trust me" with a straight ***** face Logibro? Are you kidding man? You guys must be getting some good laughs. I can't wait until you all are looking for jobs. I will celebrate like it is my birthday. "Trust me"...LMAO....I wouldn't trust CCP with the task of putting color in the game Pong. While you're at it CCP, suck the middle of my dick!
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 71	Posted - 2014.05.03 19:03:00 - [229] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I don't care myself. It's just a video game and like any video game I've played these past few years, I've paid money for the entertainment factor. I got what I paid for here. Life is too good to have this small situation upset me. I'll just move on to Destiny or any other game I appreciate and will forget about this Such typical apologist stuff. Expected more from you. My mistake. Life is the longest thing we all will ever do, and its too long to not fight some against the tyranny while in it. Michael Arck wrote: And honestly, the community screwed this over too. So some of that money loss is on the blame of the community as well. No one wants to say or see that though. But that is true. We hacked this game with a meat cleaver sending ideas into a whirlwind. Honestly? Nothing in comparison to how the cpms and ccp has been running things, especially when it comes to spending months removing game breaking bugs and meanwhile defending those descisions. The sourness of the community is a pure reflection of what ccp has been giving us. And lets not get into how many players have left the game over time. And lets not get into the DUST keynote which happened to not be about DUST at all. *"We're not killing it now, but we're killing it someday. Keep playing it, though!"*


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