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Yoma Carrim Kinsho Swords Caldari State 470	Posted - 2014.04.30 16:54:00 - [61] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: I didn't say MLT tanks were balanced or that Proto AV could solo them. I simply asked how you considered a 518k tank Cheap (You have yet to answer this question by the way). I didn't even enter the AV vs HAV debate because it is not balanced and everyone knows it. It was my fault you responded the way you did, I should of been clear I meant there was something wrong with tanks lower-tier costs. Sorry for jumping on you when I was the one being unclear. Its ok I figured it was something like that Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4721	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:07:00 - [62] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: I didn't say MLT tanks were balanced or that Proto AV could solo them. I simply asked how you considered a 518k tank Cheap (You have yet to answer this question by the way). I didn't even enter the AV vs HAV debate because it is not balanced and everyone knows it. It was my fault you responded the way you did, I should of been clear I meant there was something wrong with tanks lower-tier costs. Sorry for jumping on you when I was the one being unclear. Its ok I figured it was something like that Is that an anime lovers name by chance? Feel free to join our channel at Anime Empire in game. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Yoma Carrim Kinsho Swords Caldari State 470	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:12:00 - [63] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Yoma Carrim wrote: I didn't say MLT tanks were balanced or that Proto AV could solo them. I simply asked how you considered a 518k tank Cheap (You have yet to answer this question by the way). I didn't even enter the AV vs HAV debate because it is not balanced and everyone knows it. It was my fault you responded the way you did, I should of been clear I meant there was something wrong with tanks lower-tier costs. Sorry for jumping on you when I was the one being unclear. Its ok I figured it was something like that Is that an anime lovers name by chance? Feel free to join our channel at Anime Empire in game. It is and i'll look ya'll up next time I'm on Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3531	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:17:00 - [64] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Give me a proto vehicles first Give me a Proto AV to Counter that Proto Vehicle First You already have that Proto breach/assault FG Same with swarms/RE/PE/PLC Did you seriously just consider Proxies and Plasma Cannons as viable ways to combat Pro tanks? Do tankers seriously believe this crap? We dont have proto tanks Try again
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1042	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:17:00 - [65] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: so I decided to be an a$$ and troll you. Decided? I thought that was an inherit trait of a vehicle specialist. Same can be said about AV players I dare say that's a direct result of vehicle players. I'm the type of person that doesn't see the point in being an @sshole to someone until they start being an @sshole. But after being exposed to vehicles jackasses for just a year, my 1st reaction is fck you, fck off. Majority of vehicle players I've met have been unprovoked @ssholes, BF4 "Get the fck out my tank!", PS2 "Get the fck out of my galaxy!", DUST 514 (before small turrets were optional) "Mother fcker get out of my goddamn tank!" and these are games that are supposed to be about fcking teamwork. Support Orbital Spawns
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3531	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:19:00 - [66] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Give me a proto vehicles first Give me a Proto AV to Counter that Proto Vehicle First You already have that Proto breach/assault FG Same with swarms/RE/PE/PLC LOL What ?! Those tickle monsters ?! lmfao You asked for proto AV You already have it
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 519	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:20:00 - [67] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: so I decided to be an a$$ and troll you. Decided? I thought that was an inherit trait of a vehicle specialist. Same can be said about AV players I dare say that's a direct result of vehicle players. I'm the type of person that doesn't see the point in being an @sshole to someone until they start being an @sshole. Once again, the same thing can be said the other way around. Thumb Green wrote: "Mother fcker get out of my goddamn tank!" We were like that only when we were trying to recall because our current fitted tank was useless in the current situation or if all tanks were made useless and we wanted to actually go out and be useful. I made the mistake of trusting that blueberry in my tank a few times and hopped out in hopes of the blueberry hopping out as well but instead he/she went out and got my 1.3M-2.8M tank destroyed in seconds. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1645	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:33:00 - [68] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Give me a proto vehicles first Give me a Proto AV to Counter that Proto Vehicle First You already have that Proto breach/assault FG Same with swarms/RE/PE/PLC LOL What ?! Those tickle monsters ?! lmfao You asked for proto AV You already have it the ones that can't fend off a SOMA/SICA Nice try... Come back again later :)
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1043	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:35:00 - [69] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: "Mother fcker get out of my goddamn tank!" We were like that only when we were trying to recall because our current fitted tank was useless in the current situation or if all tanks were made useless and we wanted to actually go out and be useful. I made the mistake of trusting that blueberry in my tank a few times and hopped out in hopes of the blueberry hopping out as well but instead he/she went out and got my 1.3M-2.8M tank destroyed in seconds. Dude, don't even. That bullsh!t would happen at the start of the fcking match. As for the problem with blueberries, well that's why god created greenberries. Also could have been solved by CCP locking the driver seat to the owner as well as auto kicking passengers when trying to recall; but most importantly, if you would of had 2 squad members there with you that sh!t would have rarely happened. Support Orbital Spawns
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2432	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:35:00 - [70] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: So... 1. You want tankers to give up Large Blaster Turrets or make them ineffective against infantry. 2. You want to be able to kill HAVs just as easily and fast as you kill other infantry. So, in return... 1. Can we tankers have the ability to fit small turrets as main turret for our HAVs? 2. Can we tankers have the ability to drive HAVs indoors and in tight spaces generally? 3. Can we tankers have the ability to hack points and deploy/use equipment with our HAVs? 4. Can we tankers have the ability to turn our turrets and hulls as fast as you can turn your dropsuits and aim to all directions? Or do you just want to take everything and give nothing in return? So, which thing do you want us to give up and what are you willing to give back in return? Pick 1-2 from each category (but the same amount of options from both). Do you really believe this crap? I've been gone, away from the debates, but, really? You guys know you cost way too little for your effectiveness, what defense could you possibly say? If you want to stay cheap - then buff AV. One or the other, pick. Which is it? my only defense is i've been having tons of fun blowing other tankers up non stop, watching their wallets cry ^^. do what you want to tanks , I don't really care how bad they get.

Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 515	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:38:00 - [71] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Meh, as long as i keep seeing +75+75+50(+50)+150 for shooting tanks I don't care what they or I end up having to do. Vehicle Damage points made me give a siht about shooting tanks again. I can do nothing but av with swarms and come out top of the leaderboard. It's great. I don't want it to be too easy, or else 1- people will stop pulling out tanks 2- available will be needed into the ground again 3- it takes the pleasure out of killing tanks. Makes it boring -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 742	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:39:00 - [72] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: I feel like CCP might be compincating. They only have militia and standard tanks, but we have militia to prototype. If tanks were balinced with what they have now, they would always be screwed over by proto swarms. A maddruger can handle our wakomi swarms because that is the highest level they can get; standard. The only way to get that AV V tank ballence is to introduc all racial vehical variants from militia to proto, than CCP can ballence accordingly. This is why I think the next big patch will be the vehical equivalent of 1.8. Actually, depending on when other racial and tech level vehicles, become available it would be simpler to remove advance and proto AV and rebalance Miltia and STD AV so that they can kill existing vehicles. Of course they would also need to change CPU and PG to limit the number of proto/ADV modules that can be fitted to a STD or Militia vehicle. You do not have to be crazy to play here but we are willing to train you.
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1646	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:43:00 - [73] - Quote Just another question on top of all the other questions... - What do you do when you run out of ammo?! Drive to a safe place (If there are no accessible Supply depot, which tankers love to blow up for 50WP) and recall the tank and bring a fresh new one in... - What does a FG or AV guy do if they get placed on a rooftop or something ?! Recall the suit ?! lol Try crossing a field and trying to get ammo with an AV suit with all the tanks, scouts and red dots running around lol It's only fair and its lolTanker lolBalance
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 519	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:44:00 - [74] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: "Mother fcker get out of my goddamn tank!" We were like that only when we were trying to recall because our current fitted tank was useless in the current situation or if all tanks were made useless and we wanted to actually go out and be useful. I made the mistake of trusting that blueberry in my tank a few times and hopped out in hopes of the blueberry hopping out as well but instead he/she went out and got my 1.3M-2.8M tank destroyed in seconds. Dude, don't even. That bullsh!t would happen at the start of the fcking match. As for the problem with blueberries, well that's why god created greenberries. Also could have been solved by CCP locking the driver seat to the owner as well as auto kicking passengers when trying to recall; but most importantly, if you would of had 2 squad members there with you that sh!t would have rarely happened. So why are you crying about that again? R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1044	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:46:00 - [75] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: "Mother fcker get out of my goddamn tank!" We were like that only when we were trying to recall because our current fitted tank was useless in the current situation or if all tanks were made useless and we wanted to actually go out and be useful. I made the mistake of trusting that blueberry in my tank a few times and hopped out in hopes of the blueberry hopping out as well but instead he/she went out and got my 1.3M-2.8M tank destroyed in seconds. Dude, don't even. That bullsh!t would happen at the start of the fcking match. As for the problem with blueberries, well that's why god created greenberries. Also could have been solved by CCP locking the driver seat to the owner as well as auto kicking passengers when trying to recall; but most importantly, if you would of had 2 squad members there with you that sh!t would have rarely happened. So why are you crying about that again? Uhm.... you were the one crying about the blueberries. Support Orbital Spawns
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 516	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:53:00 - [76] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Just another question on top of all the other questions... - What do you do when you run out of ammo?! Drive to a safe place (If there are no accessible Supply depot, which tankers love to blow up for 50WP) and recall the tank and bring a fresh new one in... - What does a FG or AV guy do if they get placed on a rooftop or something ?! Recall the suit ?! lol Try crossing a field and trying to get ammo with an AV suit with all the tanks, scouts and red dots running around lol It's only fair and its lolTanker lolBalance Run a nanohive. Or, have someone else drop a nanohive for you if you are in a squad. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 519	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:53:00 - [77] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Thumb Green wrote: "Mother fcker get out of my goddamn tank!" We were like that only when we were trying to recall because our current fitted tank was useless in the current situation or if all tanks were made useless and we wanted to actually go out and be useful. I made the mistake of trusting that blueberry in my tank a few times and hopped out in hopes of the blueberry hopping out as well but instead he/she went out and got my 1.3M-2.8M tank destroyed in seconds. Dude, don't even. That bullsh!t would happen at the start of the fcking match. As for the problem with blueberries, well that's why god created greenberries. Also could have been solved by CCP locking the driver seat to the owner as well as auto kicking passengers when trying to recall; but most importantly, if you would of had 2 squad members there with you that sh!t would have rarely happened. So why are you crying about that again? Uhm.... you were the one crying about the blueberries. Let me repeat myself: So why are you crying about that again? R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 519	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:54:00 - [78] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Just another question on top of all the other questions... - What do you do when you run out of ammo?! Drive to a safe place (If there are no accessible Supply depot, which tankers love to blow up for 50WP) and recall the tank and bring a fresh new one in... - What does a FG or AV guy do if they get placed on a rooftop or something ?! Recall the suit ?! lol Try crossing a field and trying to get ammo with an AV suit with all the tanks, scouts and red dots running around lol It's only fair and its lolTanker lolBalance What does a tank do if they get placed on a rooftop or something?! Oh wait... R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7505	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:55:00 - [79] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Just another question on top of all the other questions... - What do you do when you run out of ammo?! Drive to a safe place (If there are no accessible Supply depot, which tankers love to blow up for 50WP) and recall the tank and bring a fresh new one in... - What does a FG or AV guy do if they get placed on a rooftop or something ?! Recall the suit ?! lol Try crossing a field and trying to get ammo with an AV suit with all the tanks, scouts and red dots running around lol It's only fair and its lolTanker lolBalance What does a tank do if they get placed on a rooftop or something?! Oh wait... Absolutely nothing, because that rarely, if ever happens. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7505	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:56:00 - [80] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Let me repeat myself: So why are you crying about that again? I'm pretty sure you were the one crying here. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND

NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1647	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:56:00 - [81] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Just another question on top of all the other questions... - What do you do when you run out of ammo?! Drive to a safe place (If there are no accessible Supply depot, which tankers love to blow up for 50WP) and recall the tank and bring a fresh new one in... - What does a FG or AV guy do if they get placed on a rooftop or something ?! Recall the suit ?! lol Try crossing a field and trying to get ammo with an AV suit with all the tanks, scouts and red dots running around lol It's only fair and its lolTanker lolBalance What does a tank do if they get placed on a rooftop or something?! Oh wait... A tanker who needs to stay on a Rooftop has the smallest....
Void Echo Total Extinction 2480	Posted - 2014.04.30 17:57:00 - [82] - Quote really, even one of the biggest trolls has gotten serious for once to talk about tanking? Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 519	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:05:00 - [83] - Quote Atiim wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Let me repeat myself: So why are you crying about that again? I'm pretty sure you were the one crying here. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 519	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:05:00 - [84] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Just another question on top of all the other questions... - What do you do when you run out of ammo?! Drive to a safe place (If there are no accessible Supply depot, which tankers love to blow up for 50WP) and recall the tank and bring a fresh new one in... - What does a FG or AV guy do if they get placed on a rooftop or something ?! Recall the suit ?! lol Try crossing a field and trying to get ammo with an AV suit with all the tanks, scouts and red dots running around lol It's only fair and its lolTanker lolBalance What does a tank do if they get placed on a rooftop or something?! Oh wait... A tanker who needs to stay on a Rooftop has the smallest.... Smallest sunglasses? R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4726	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:07:00 - [85] - Quote Void Echo wrote: really, even one of the biggest trolls has gotten serious for once to talk about tanking? this issue has gotten worse than before is sota poop is putting his 2 cents in it. Has it not gone stupid? Tankers, you're hurting NPE. Quit your **** and pick one. I should of mentioned I only speak of lower tiered tank prices. That's what's harmful with tanks right now. There ratio of effectiveness with AV drastically goes higher at proto - but so what? That's the point. In strategic game modes they aren't a huge factor anyways, they can hold outside point 'sometimes' they're easily countered. So they're considered balanced. But MLT is NOT. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Void Echo Total Extinction 2482	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:08:00 - [86] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Void Echo wrote: really, even one of the biggest trolls has gotten serious for once to talk about tanking? this issue has gotten worse than before is sota poop is putting his 2 cents in it. Has it not gone stupid? Tankers, you're hurting NPE. Quit your **** and pick one. I should of mentioned I only speak of lower tiered tank prices. That's what's harmful with tanks right now. There ratio of effectiveness with AV drastically goes higher at proto - but so what? That's the point. In strategic game modes they aren't a huge factor anyways, they can hold outside point 'sometimes' they're easily countered. So they're considered balanced. But MLT is NOT. MLT tanks I couldn't care less about, they require nothing to use and should be treated and like such. they should have their effectiveness cut down because they are the lowest tier available. price remains the same but effectiveness is cut. Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 791	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:10:00 - [87] - Quote This whole thread is shit. +öMiGü+¹ = GêÆ+¦+ún=1NDi[n][+újGêêC[i]Fji[n GêÆ 1] + Fexti[nGü+¹]]
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4728	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:11:00 - [88] - Quote Void Echo wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Void Echo wrote: really, even one of the biggest trolls has gotten serious for once to talk about tanking? this issue has gotten worse than before is sota poop is putting his 2 cents in it. Has it not gone stupid? Tankers, you're hurting NPE. Quit your **** and pick one. I should of mentioned I only speak of lower tiered tank prices. That's what's harmful with tanks right now. There ratio of effectiveness with AV drastically goes higher at proto - but so what? That's the point. In strategic game modes they aren't a huge factor anyways, they can hold outside point 'sometimes' they're easily countered. So they're considered balanced. But MLT is NOT. Tankers aren't hurting the game, its the people that want them gone and to turn this into gall of duty that are hurting this game. the universe doesn't revolve around infantry. MLT tanks I couldn't care less about, they require nothing to use and should be treated and like such. they should have their effectiveness cut down because they are the lowest tier available. price remains the same but effectiveness is cut. Tanks are completely fine regarding anything out of MLT. Besides rep tank maddys - that's a little dumb. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1694	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:12:00 - [89] - Quote Void Echo wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Void Echo wrote: really, even one of the biggest trolls has gotten serious for once to talk about tanking? this issue has gotten worse than before is sota poop is putting his 2 cents in it. Has it not gone stupid? Tankers, you're hurting NPE. Quit your **** and pick one. I should of mentioned I only speak of lower tiered tank prices. That's what's harmful with tanks right now. There ratio of effectiveness with AV drastically goes higher at proto - but so what? That's the point. In strategic game modes they aren't a huge factor anyways, they can hold outside point 'sometimes' they're easily countered. So they're considered balanced. But MLT is NOT. Tankers aren't hurting the game, its the people that want them gone and to turn this into gall of duty that are hurting this game. the universe doesn't revolve around infantry. MLT tanks I couldn't care less about, they require nothing to use and should be treated and like such. they should have their effectiveness cut down because they are the lowest tier available. price remains the same but effectiveness is cut. Also bring back appropriate tiers for active modules. They shouldn't be providing the same buffs across all levels. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1694	Posted - 2014.04.30 18:13:00 - [90] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Tanks are completely fine regarding anything out of MLT. Besides rep tank maddys - that's a little dumb. Reps need to become active modules. Period. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32



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