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Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3671	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 145	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:23:00 - [2] - Quote >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. It's obvious they haven't thanked Obama. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Ridire Greine 371	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:24:00 - [3] - Quote Peasants man. Just peasants. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3671	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:25:00 - [4] - Quote Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto.
Toby Flenderson research lab 525	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. That's cool, then don't worry about what everyone else is doing.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3671	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:26:00 - [6] - Quote I mean seriously why do we even need PvE these garbage players can't even do as well as the foot soldiers from Dynasty Warriors.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2647	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:26:00 - [7] - Quote PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 151	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:27:00 - [8] - Quote Or maybe they are cheap and just making isk? Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3671	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:28:00 - [9] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. That's cool, then don't worry about what everyone else is doing. It's important for Economy that loss happens. And it's important for me to know you suffered.
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 417	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:28:00 - [10] - Quote Not everyone has the luxury of squatting on districts for free ISK out the wazoo. If you die more than once in a pub with proto you LOSE money. Eventually becoming flat BROKE. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. To Live Is To Die

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3671	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:29:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it.
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 151	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:29:00 - [12] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I mean seriously why do we even need PvE these garbage players can't even do as well as the foot soldiers from Dynasty Warriors. maybe ill put a adv knife on a starter fit ang collect some tears, good idea! Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3671	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:30:00 - [13] - Quote LT Dans Legs wrote: Not everyone has the luxury of squatting on districts for free ISK out the wazoo. If you die more than once in a pub with proto you LOSE money. Eventually becoming flat BROKE. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. Because it isn't true. You make the money back so long as your WP gain is high enough. Also it helps to not die.
Ridire Greine 371	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:30:00 - [14] - Quote Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. It's obvious they haven't thanked Obama. Greentexting on DUST Forums. Confirmed lost. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
Sourdough Muffins Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 280	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:33:00 - [15] - Quote Because it is surprisingly effective and amazingly cheap. I can't afford to run proto all the time like the ISK farmers in Planetary Conquest. My main source of income is Pub matches. Militia Minmatar Heavy - 1022 eHP - Sprints 7m/s - 11k ISK per suit 1x Complex Shield Extender 1x Complex Kincat STD Combat Rifle STD SMG 1x Locus Grenade
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2650	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:33:00 - [16] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it. The question is why would I spend it against a proto wolfpack? Think about it, why bother wasting it. If you are asking why no one seems to bother putting up a fight, try runing solo once in a while, when you come across a wolfpack see just how much you loose. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 147	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:36:00 - [17] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it. The question is why would I spend it against a proto wolfpack? Think about it, why bother wasting it. If you are asking why no one seems to bother putting up a fight, try runing solo once in a while, when you come across a wolfpack see just how much you loose. They'd be too scared to run solo and in the marginal chance they did, they'd wimp out once they got pubstomped by O.H. or some other corp. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 326	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:38:00 - [18] - Quote I'm starting to see this trend also. Let's face it. No one can make money with out PC. Also Why go 16-3 with proto when I can do the same with sh!t fits. I run proto also and with all the imbalances its not worth it We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3672	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:39:00 - [19] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it. The question is why would I spend it against a proto wolfpack? Think about it, why bother wasting it. If you are asking why no one seems to bother putting up a fight, try runing solo once in a while, when you come across a wolfpack see just how much you loose. "Proto wolfpacks". Pffft. I run solo 99.9% of the time. You run advanced the majority of the time, run proto when you want to have some fun smacking people around. That's how you make money and kill those people.
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 230	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:41:00 - [20] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR It's not only pubs. FW too... blueberries are always in Militia I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits

RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 34	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:41:00 - [21] - Quote I'm a MLT Heavy using summabitch. I have 2 racial Proto Heavies, but still just use the MLT. Why? Because pub payouts ******* suck. I could run Proto and Advanced fittings, die 3 times and be "in the red", financially speaking. I can run my MLTs, get the same number of Kills, a few more Deaths, and rake in the ISK like my district is Locked. Putting the MO-4 Assault HMG back on the Killfeed one Merc at a time.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1358	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:43:00 - [22] - Quote Could it be that original poster is attempting to get the ire of the community in this thread? No, that can't possibly be true; people on the internet would never do that! "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3672	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:44:00 - [23] - Quote Why would you ever run militia heavy suits...to hell with how cheap it is, you don't even get the resistence bonus. What a garbage suit.
Jillic Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 149	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:49:00 - [24] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Could it be that original poster is attempting to get the ire of the community in this thread? No, that can't possibly be true; people on the internet would never do that! Have a like. Caldari Girls Do It Better. I am not Lorhak Gannarsein, but I was his 3000th Like.
Operative 2511 Dajli True Companion Planetary Requisitions 61	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:49:00 - [25] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR We have a life and don't depend on a game to validate ourselves? Lol, the ban hammer got me!
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 35	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:50:00 - [26] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why would you ever run militia heavy suits...to hell with how cheap it is, you don't even get the resistence bonus. What a garbage suit. Because it averages 100,000 ISK cheaper than a fully fitted ADV or PRO and about 50,000 cheaper than a properly fitted STD. Those bonuses are so overrated anyway. If you can dance in a Heavy, know where you cover is, and be aware of your surroundings, the MLT really isn't bad. Not overloaded and slowed with Plates and apparently doesn't show up on a lot of Passive scans. Putting the MO-4 Assault HMG back on the Killfeed one Merc at a time.
Jillic Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 151	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:51:00 - [27] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why would you ever run militia heavy suits...to hell with how cheap it is, you don't even get the resistence bonus. What a garbage suit. Because it averages 100,000 ISK cheaper than a fully fitted ADV or PRO and about 50,000 cheaper than a properly fitted STD. Those bonuses are so overrated anyway. If you can dance in a Heavy, know where you cover is, and be aware of your surroundings, the MLT really isn't bad. Not overloaded and slowed with Plates and apparently doesn't show up on a lot of Passive scans. Not to mention that secret speed bonus on the min heavies. GO! SPEED HEAVY! GO! Caldari Girls Do It Better. I am not Lorhak Gannarsein, but I was his 3000th Like.
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 152	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:52:00 - [28] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why would you ever run militia heavy suits...to hell with how cheap it is, you don't even get the resistence bonus. What a garbage suit. militia suit can be effective if you fit it right. heck any militia suit can be. if you cant.....well umm i seggest running militia till u get better before you go back to proto...theres nothing wrong with going solo im sure, but dnt let that pride get to you in battle because you can screw up that way Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2651	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:53:00 - [29] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it. The question is why would I spend it against a proto wolfpack? Think about it, why bother wasting it. If you are asking why no one seems to bother putting up a fight, try runing solo once in a while, when you come across a wolfpack see just how much you loose. "Proto wolfpacks". Pffft. I run solo 99.9% of the time. You run advanced the majority of the time, run proto when you want to have some fun smacking people around. That's how you make money and kill those people. Hahaha please, don't spout such rubbish, I mean without a squad to rep and rez you. Actual solo. It takes just 5 deaths to pull negative from a 250,000 ISK payout, which is about average, if you win. Now bear in mind the lack of logi users nowadays, unless you have support like yourself, it's not exactly difficult. But your entire attitude throughout this post matches the same as every other stomper, why aren't people bothering to fight my unbridled use of spam or FOTM? What suit do you run out of interest, what fit? Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 35	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:55:00 - [30] - Quote Jillic wrote: RYN0CER0S wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why would you ever run militia heavy suits...to hell with how cheap it is, you don't even get the resistence bonus. What a garbage suit. Because it averages 100,000 ISK cheaper than a fully fitted ADV or PRO and about 50,000 cheaper than a properly fitted STD. Those bonuses are so overrated anyway. If you can dance in a Heavy, know where you cover is, and be aware of your surroundings, the MLT really isn't bad. Not overloaded and slowed with Plates and apparently doesn't show up on a lot of Passive scans. Not to mention that secret speed bonus on the min heavies. GO! SPEED HEAVY! GO! Turbo Turtles. It's a thing now. We're coming... Putting the MO-4 Assault HMG back on the Killfeed one Merc at a time.

Jillic Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 151	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:57:00 - [31] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Jillic wrote: RYN0CER0S wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Why would you ever run militia heavy suits...to hell with how cheap it is, you don't even get the resistence bonus. What a garbage suit. Because it averages 100,000 ISK cheaper than a fully fitted ADV or PRO and about 50,000 cheaper than a properly fitted STD. Those bonuses are so overrated anyway. If you can dance in a Heavy, know where you cover is, and be aware of your surroundings, the MLT really isn't bad. Not overloaded and slowed with Plates and apparently doesn't show up on a lot of Passive scans. Not to mention that secret speed bonus on the min heavies. GO! SPEED HEAVY! GO! Turbo Turtles. It's a thing now. We're coming... Can I be Donatello? Caldari Girls Do It Better. I am not Lorhak Gannarsein, but I was his 3000th Like.
Omega Black Zero Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:57:00 - [32] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Or, the option may actually lie outside the realm of possibilities. You obviously narrowed this down to just stupidity when the truth of the matter, most people just don't give a flying f*** what other people think. You mistake apathy and indifference for stupidity. Common American trait. I'm an American so I should know.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7350	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:00:00 - [33] - Quote Tightens Tinfoil Cap The people who only run MLT gear are not doing so because they are scrubs, but they are simply saving up their ISK for the Player Market and possible inflation, as well as PC 2.0 where you may have to pay for your MCC. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7350	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:03:00 - [34] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Hahaha please, don't spout such rubbish, I mean without a squad to rep and rez you. Actual solo. It takes just 5 deaths to pull negative from a 250,000 ISK payout, which is about average, if you win. Now bear in mind the lack of logi users nowadays, unless you have support like yourself, it's not exactly difficult. But your entire attitude throughout this post matches the same as every other stomper, why aren't people bothering to fight my unbridled use of spam or FOTM? What suit do you run out of interest, what fit? He runs a Sentinel w/HMGs Not sure which race though. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 153	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:03:00 - [35] - Quote Omega Black Zero wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Or, the option may actually lie outside the realm of possibilities. You obviously narrowed this down to just stupidity when the truth of the matter, most people just don't give a flying f*** what other people think. You mistake apathy and indifference for stupidity. Common American trait. I'm an American so I should know. or an american weeboo trait (i admit im an insane anime fan too). well its the forums. cant really do much about one's attitude or disrespect Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2653	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:08:00 - [36] - Quote Atiim wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hahaha please, don't spout such rubbish, I mean without a squad to rep and rez you. Actual solo. It takes just 5 deaths to pull negative from a 250,000 ISK payout, which is about average, if you win. Now bear in mind the lack of logi users nowadays, unless you have support like yourself, it's not exactly difficult. But your entire attitude throughout this post matches the same as every other stomper, why aren't people bothering to fight my unbridled use of spam or FOTM? What suit do you run out of interest, what fit? He runs a Sentinel w/HMGs Not sure which race though. Gallante with plenty of plates Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Jillic Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 152	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:09:00 - [37] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Atiim wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hahaha please, don't spout such rubbish, I mean without a squad to rep and rez you. Actual solo. It takes just 5 deaths to pull negative from a 250,000 ISK payout, which is about average, if you win. Now bear in mind the lack of logi users nowadays, unless you have support like yourself, it's not exactly difficult. But your entire attitude throughout this post matches the same as every other stomper, why aren't people bothering to fight my unbridled use of spam or FOTM? What suit do you run out of interest, what fit? He runs a Sentinel w/HMGs Not sure which race though. Gallante with plenty of plates May I rep you, sir? Dat buffer. ~bites lip~ Caldari Girls Do It Better. I am not Lorhak Gannarsein, but I was his 3000th Like.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1709	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:09:00 - [38] - Quote Good read, I run basic to militia 95%, hold a positive KD, don't care bout KD though, and do just fine. I can afford proto all day every day till this game dies. I just don't need a crutch... CEO Whiskey squad leader, E9 Once Bitten Twice Shy....
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 153	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:10:00 - [39] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Atiim wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hahaha please, don't spout such rubbish, I mean without a squad to rep and rez you. Actual solo. It takes just 5 deaths to pull negative from a 250,000 ISK payout, which is about average, if you win. Now bear in mind the lack of logi users nowadays, unless you have support like yourself, it's not exactly difficult. But your entire attitude throughout this post matches the same as every other stomper, why aren't people bothering to fight my unbridled use of spam or FOTM? What suit do you run out of interest, what fit? He runs a Sentinel w/HMGs Not sure which race though. Gallante with plenty of plates wait hes actually trying to run solo with a heavy?? Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1283	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:11:00 - [40] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: LT Dans Legs wrote: Not everyone has the luxury of squatting on districts for free ISK out the wazoo. If you die more than once in a pub with proto you LOSE money. Eventually becoming flat BROKE. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. Because it isn't true. You make the money back so long as your WP gain is high enough. Also it helps to not die. Domination 1900 warpoints #4 scoreboard 106k isk.................... I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9779	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:14:00 - [41] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 153	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:20:00 - [42] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. your sacrifices will not be in vain Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 19	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:28:00 - [43] - Quote Let me give you a list of logical answers with no one using stupidity as an argument : - some people like to use a lot of differents dropsuits and are forced to use militia/standard gear as a counterpart for their versatility - using militia/standard add challenge in a game, because yes, some players look for challenge - the redline slaughter in proto isn't fun or challenging, simply boring (redline in general is, no matter what your gear) - some players are ruined or simply want to have some (or a lot of) money in their wallets - proto players or pilots might want to have money so they can run dropsuits/vehicles in other games. - militia/standard gear is really effective when you want to try a fitting completely different from what you are used to - to have some expendable dropsuits like a drop uplink on a scout for the begenning or a standard HMG on a low cost heavy for close quarters combat is always useful - to do good ratio/wp in militia/standard increase your experience and awareness of gameplay and tactics - people have maybe noticed that since 1.8, HP don't really matter because any dropsuit is backshotgunned in a matter of seconds every game. Personaly I don't care, but I know it is really frustrating for many people. And I bet there are a lot more reasons I don't think about that can justify the fact to play in cheap dropsuits on Dust. Personaly, I'm proud to play in standard dropsuits and happy to have all the gallente dropsuits at my disposal. It is a way to play like spawnkilling and tankspamming. Dropship pilot
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 82	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:37:00 - [44] - Quote My wife left me and took all of my ISK in the divorce. Never marry a Caldari woman.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1655	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:39:00 - [45] - Quote This isn't about running proto 24/7. This also isn't about having DNS tags. The problem is that most people who complain about getting smashed simply contribute it to proto. Proto isn't all that great, all it takes is a good flanking and you're rightfully screwed no matter what you wear. What Himiko is trying to bring up is the fact that militia just sucks, and makes doing anything nearly impossible. You can still be fairly effective running standard gear, and turn a profit. my average std suit costs around 1200 Isk per suit. You get approximately 150-250 thousand average per match. Which means you can lose about 9-20 suits and that will break you. Not many people I know will lose that many suits in a pub unless it was a really intense match, which increases payout. Point being that Militia sucks, you can still run a decent STD fitting, be effective, and turn a profit. Spend the money. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1469	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:41:00 - [46] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR looking over your eve online fits, i'm not certain you're the guy to be calling people stupid. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1283	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:42:00 - [47] - Quote low genius wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR looking over your eve online fits, i'm not certain you're the guy to be calling people stupid. Show me them please. I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2658	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:44:00 - [48] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: This isn't about running proto 24/7. This also isn't about having DNS tags. The problem is that most people who complain about getting smashed simply contribute it to proto. Proto isn't all that great, all it takes is a good flanking and you're rightfully screwed no matter what you wear. What Himiko is trying to bring up is the fact that militia just sucks, and makes doing anything nearly impossible. You can still be fairly effective running standard gear, and turn a profit. my average std suit costs around 1200 Isk per suit. You get approximately 150-250 thousand average per match. Which means you can lose about 9-20 suits and that will break you. Not many people I know will lose that many suits in a pub unless it was a really intense match, which increases payout. Point being that Militia sucks, you can still run a decent STD fitting, be effective, and turn a profit. Spend the money. Yeah but why run a std fit, when a comparable 'frontline' fit is free. I have a fit that costs me just 5,000 ISK a pop, and only because I shell out for the ACR, when it comes to a WTF/AE/DNS pubstomp I know no matter how much I loose Imwill still probably make a profit and if I can ensure that at least one of them doesn't get a perfect KDR then all the better. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1469	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:44:00 - [49] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: low genius wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR looking over your eve online fits, i'm not certain you're the guy to be calling people stupid. Show me them please. okay, but it's not going to be pretty. one sec. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21614834 if anyone has every seen a worse domi fit, please let me know. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Omega Black Zero Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:45:00 - [50] - Quote low genius wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR looking over your eve online fits, i'm not certain you're the guy to be calling people stupid. Bahahaha, ouch

Minor Treat RisingSuns Dark Taboo 245	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:45:00 - [51] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it. Himiko, maybe you should try playing with a fresh new character to see why the new players are forced into such situations. I know with my alts I need to filter money into the character due to how many deaths you endure when most characters are already vastly superior than the new players. Skill helps but skill points helps more.
voidfaction Void of Faction 216	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:56:00 - [52] - Quote oh how I love my 3,420 isk scout valor/dragonfly scout g-l toxin assault toxin smg militia bpo shield entender armor plate 2x profile dampener locus grenade nanohive ARN-18 Cloak Field I can enjoy playing vs isk farmers with the same state of mind > it don't matter if I die i still make isk
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9783	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:58:00 - [53] - Quote Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. your sacrifices will not be in vain They aren't. Duty is its own reward. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 344	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:04:00 - [54] - Quote "Skinweave" militia Gallente light frame 2x militia armor plate BPO 1x militia repair BPO 1x militia shield extender 1x militia uplink "Exile" Assault Rifle "Toxin" Submachine gun 0 ISK and I can easily get 2000 WP with an average KD of 15. I kill proto suits pretty well in this suit, and I see no need to change yet. (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus Uprising->Replication->E3->Codex->Chromosome->Uprising->???
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3675	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:05:00 - [55] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. That's a bullshit excuse. I've been running my same routine since before chromosome. And that's when heavies were expensive to run. You don't need the backing of an alliance to run non-militia gear. That's a joke.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 310	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:07:00 - [56] - Quote Because it's way more fun to drop guys in proto knowing they're reading Cyzad4 MLT G-MED COMBAT RIFLE as I step over their bullet riddled corpse And it's cheap as ****, I would have to die 25+ times in a match to lose money and as long as you get at least a few proto someone's in the red. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 155	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:10:00 - [57] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. That's a bullshit excuse. I've been running my same routine since before chromosome. And that's when heavies were expensive to run. You don't need the backing of an alliance to run non-militia gear. That's a joke. voidfaction wrote: oh how I love my 3,420 isk scout valor/dragonfly scout g-l toxin assault toxin smg militia bpo shield entender armor plate 2x profile dampener locus grenade nanohive ARN-18 Cloak Field I can enjoy playing vs isk farmers with the same state of mind > it don't matter if I die i still make isk You will make isk that you are too petrified to ever use. Good job. please refrain from sending me hatemail if i stab you in the back with a militia fit. btw he is using isk. how else would he restock his suit Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3676	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:13:00 - [58] - Quote low genius wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: low genius wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR looking over your eve online fits, i'm not certain you're the guy to be calling people stupid. Show me them please. okay, but it's not going to be pretty. one sec. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21614834 if anyone has every seen a worse domi fit, please let me know. That domi fit successfully held off 5+ pilots simultaneously for more than a month straight because they were too scared to risk anything larger than a T1 frigate. It also managed to drop orbitals at the same time. It was a super situational fit for a situational opponent that had to do many things at once, and I dare say it's an incredibly good fit for that situation. If you want to talk trash, that's fine. My team needed orbital support and I had one account available to provide it with. I did it with the one ship using the one fit that could. If you want to talk trash about it, let's go into how long it took for your guys to actually grow a pair and do something about it?
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 375	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:13:00 - [59] - Quote I usually run proto suits in pubs with the occasional mix up of basic and advance, though I stay away from the proto weapons. Still making Isk though, even running the more expensive suits, though I'll admit, all these damned cloaked caldari and gallente shotgun scouts sure do make my Minmatar's nova knifing life hell. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 155	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:16:00 - [60] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I usually run proto suits in pubs with the occasional mix up of basic and advance, though I stay away from the proto weapons. Still making Isk though, even running the more expensive suits, though I'll admit, all these damned cloaked caldari and gallente shotgun scouts sure do make my Minmatar's nova knifing life hell. definitely true. thats why i carry a mass driver just in case Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul

Alex-P-Keaton Kramer Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 107	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:18:00 - [61] - Quote i run full on militia bpo's on starter suits so douchebags will make threads about it on the internet #workingasintended http://i58.tinypic.com/15f3muh.png http://i57.tinypic.com/301n33b.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/30c4pwk.jpg
voidfaction Void of Faction 216	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:18:00 - [62] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. That's a bullshit excuse. I've been running my same routine since before chromosome. And that's when heavies were expensive to run. You don't need the backing of an alliance to run non-militia gear. That's a joke. voidfaction wrote: oh how I love my 3,420 isk scout valor/dragonfly scout g-l toxin assault toxin smg militia bpo shield entender armor plate 2x profile dampener locus grenade nanohive ARN-18 Cloak Field I can enjoy playing vs isk farmers with the same state of mind > it don't matter if I die i still make isk You will make isk that you are too petrified to ever use. Good job. I use it plenty with proto fittings. I just don't use them till the protostompen Qsync tards are done caping out so the teams are more fair.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1711	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:19:00 - [63] - Quote I love taking out protostompers with militia Min assault and basic mass driver, militia heavy with Rail Rifle works well too. Have a nice day... CEO Whiskey squad leader, E9 Once Bitten Twice Shy....
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4090	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:20:00 - [64] - Quote I run MLT fits to train in, to make sure I acquire 100% ISK gain in a session and finally because I want to. It's a pub match. I don't take it too seriously. In a FW and PC, IMO, yea I would look at you funny for running MLT. Especially in PC, that would be hilarious. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 2086	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:22:00 - [65] - Quote Now, now dat militia tank last night Himiko you were in a PRO heavy but still dat militia tank. ISK Donuts are delicious Q_Q Moar
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7352	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:24:00 - [66] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: I love taking out protostompers with militia Min assault and basic mass driver, militia heavy with Rail Rifle works well too. Have a nice day... Why use MLT Heavy when you can use a STD Commando with comparable eHP, another Light Weapon, and similar ISK efficiency? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9788	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:25:00 - [67] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. That's a bullshit excuse. I've been running my same routine since before chromosome. And that's when heavies were expensive to run. You don't need the backing of an alliance to run non-militia gear. That's a joke. It's not, when a groups main source of ISK has to be Public Contracts maximising profits in the smartest answer for them as it shortens the time they have to far....whereas an Alliance that makes billions of ISK weekly can afford to naturally pay and subsidise their players losses if necessary. If most smaller corporations could afford to subsidise their mercenaries costs they would not run MLT as often to farm the ISK. It IS as simple as that. BPO and MLT gear is the best in terms of ISK efficiency when trying to grind out ISK. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 199	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:26:00 - [68] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR A- i have around 25 different fittings. I'd rather loose a 450isk fitting than a 268k isk fitting B- its better teammates that help you win C- who really cares about k/d? Its a game D- i dont always let a blueberry ride in my LAV, but when i do... They steal it the second i get out
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4090	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:27:00 - [69] - Quote lol people seem to lack the capabilities of placing themselves in other people's shoes... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3676	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:28:00 - [70] - Quote Here, more links of my terrible fit killing "apparently superior" pilots. Remember guys, I don't even have a point on that thing. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21416885 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21298280 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21458191 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21460578 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21524904 (hawkin was so impressed with my fit he copied it and assisted me on this one) http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21542444 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21614835 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21622702

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7353	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:31:00 - [71] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: [...] I've never played EVE, but is there really a such thing as a bad fitting there? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3677	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:32:00 - [72] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR A- i have around 25 different fittings. I'd rather loose a 450isk fitting than a 268k isk fitting B- its better teammates that help you win C- who really cares about k/d? Its a game D- i dont always let a blueberry ride in my LAV, but when i do... They steal it the second i get out If I create a video that proves you wrong on B, will you send me all of your isk so I can put it to better use?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3677	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:35:00 - [73] - Quote Atiim wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: [...] I've never played EVE, but is there really a such thing as a bad fitting there? EVE is like rock paper scissors but a lot more complicated. If you are outnumbered or have the wrong fitting for a specific fight, then it was over before the fight even began. Bad fits are fits that can handle no situation, or handle a situation in an underwhelming fashion. Genius here is pissed off because my fit was so good it managed to screw his friends over for a month. It's a particularly painful point because the ship is loaded with warp core stabs, which basically negate someones attempt to warp scramble you but make it so you can't target anything or fight back. No one in their right mind fits a pvp ship with warp core stabs, thats like the worst fit ever! Or so the elitist paper pvp'rs would tell you, except I didn't need to target anything though, just drop orbitals. And I didn't need to fight back because my drones would do that for me the moment these clowns took any hostile action. And they always did. For a month straight.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 501	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:39:00 - [74] - Quote My proto scout cost 120 k isk ( pub fitt ) The PC scout cost 200 k isk My advanced scout fits cost 40-60k isk My basic cost ..... 3000 isk Awarage payout in pub for me is 250 k isk Now do the numbers War never changes
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3680	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:53:00 - [75] - Quote Currently scouts can survive longer than any opponent in the game due to radar+visual concealment, total situational awareness and first mover advantage. I would probably be rocking advanced the majority of the time as a novice, and switch to proto when i got good at it.
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:56:00 - [76] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. id love to see dirt bag squad run adv fittings only for a day. I know most of you are elite. The other half are trolls.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3682	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:00:00 - [77] - Quote danie braz wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. id love to see dirt bag squad run adv fittings only for a day. I know most of you are elite. The other half are trolls. I'm an elite troll. How will you handle this magnificence?
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1148	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:02:00 - [78] - Quote I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7359	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:02:00 - [79] - Quote danie braz wrote: id love to see dirt bag squad run adv fittings only for a day. I know most of you are elite. The other half are trolls. So basically do what I do everyday? The only thing that's off the table for that is Biotics, AV, and EWAR. Everything else is fair game mkay? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7359	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:03:00 - [80] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. Not everyone in DNS is rich... Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3682	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:04:00 - [81] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1307	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:06:00 - [82] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. I don't expect you to act anything other then stupid. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9792	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:13:00 - [83] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. Well when you are running proto with 6 other proto players in a communicating and organised squad, tanks fit to competitive level play....against newberries, unsquadded, disorganised players with poorly fit vehicles...... thats not surprising..... and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1307	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:15:00 - [84] - Quote Can someone please tell me WHAT THE HELL IS A DONUT? Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3683	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:16:00 - [85] - Quote Once upon a time there was a poor scrublet named Himiko (this would be a good place to end the story for most but I'll keep going). Himiko played on keyboard and mouse, because rawr PC gaming. He noticed this game had a terrible frame rate and there wasn't a lot of hit detection consistency, and from a competitive standpoint this pissed him off too much to bother with CQC. So he decided to become a sniper because it seemed like a less frustrating way to preserve KDR and make money as threats were limited in scope (hur hur, get it?). Once he had around 15-20 mil or so, he decided he wanted to experience more parts of the game outside of being a head glitching jerkoff. So he went from one extreme to another and jumped into a heavy suit with an HMG to get up close and personal. These suits were expensive, but then, if times were tough he could always fall back to sniping right? Well here's the thing kids. Times never got tough. I raped, pillaged and plundered fifty thousand corpses and I'll keep on going for another fifty thousand more. A while afterwards I got picked up by some reputable gentlemen who noticed there was a lone figure still standing at the end of the long trail of broken dreams and whiny adolescents. Then, when uprising came out, everything changed. My suits got cheaper. A lot cheaper. Suddenly I was allowed to die more than twice in a match and still make a profit. And that's how Himiko saved Christmas. Wait, what was this thread about?
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7364	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:18:00 - [86] - Quote True Adamance wrote: and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... DNS is loves competition, just not repetition. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Egonz4 292	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:20:00 - [87] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Because some people aren't rich, want to make lots of money's and don't care what you think Master of The Flaylock
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9793	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:21:00 - [88] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Can someone please tell me WHAT THE HELL IS A DONUT? In Dust 514 general circle of corporations sucking the filthy excrement they call PSA's out the asses of the next corporation in the link.... think the HumanCentipede but there players are doing it voluntarily....... ...... nah.... In other games it's just the general term given to a grouping of player groups with the goal being to not fight or have conflict for they can reap the benefits.... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1311	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:21:00 - [89] - Quote At 0/15 how can you expect them to run anything else. You should be able to figure this out on your own. Maybe you affection for stupidity is rubbing off. Crush them
Toby Flenderson research lab 526	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [90] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. That's cool, then don't worry about what everyone else is doing. It's important for Economy that loss happens. And it's important for me to know you suffered. Explain that first part.

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [91] - Quote I'd just like to point out, for you thread derailing jackasses, that outer heaven and what the french were almost entirely inactive as a whole until this shenanigans prompted them to do something. In fact, many new names have surfaced that I've never seen before. The donut has given many of you a reason to fight. You should be thankful to DNS for bringing new and old talent, back to the surface.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 3030	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [92] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. Well when you are running proto with 6 other proto players in a communicating and organised squad, tanks fit to competitive level play....against newberries, unsquadded, disorganised players with poorly fit vehicles...... thats not surprising..... and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... I've never seen Himiko pubbing in squads (although I've only seen him a few times). I seem to remember him in a solo PRO HMG fit back in Chromosome, although that was a while ago and I might be crazy. ak.0 // 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees. Jillic gave me my 3000th like!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9793	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:24:00 - [93] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. Well when you are running proto with 6 other proto players in a communicating and organised squad, tanks fit to competitive level play....against newberries, unsquadded, disorganised players with poorly fit vehicles...... thats not surprising..... and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... I've never seen Himiko pubbing in squads (although I've only seen him a few times). I seem to remember him in a solo PRO HMG fit back in Chromosome, although that was a while ago and I might be crazy. We I guess he isn't leet enough to create a squad called "looking for squad leader" and inadvertently make use of 6 MLT HAV like the pro leet skillzors we truely are.... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:24:00 - [94] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. That's cool, then don't worry about what everyone else is doing. It's important for Economy that loss happens. And it's important for me to know you suffered. Explain that first part. New Eden's economy runs on an isk-to-tear conversion table. For every amount of isk that is lost and/or stolen, a certain amount of tears are produced and inserted into the economy. Without these tears being readily available for consumption there is a severe shortage of motivation to work, play, converse, or engage in sexual activities. It is therefore imperative that you lose isk. Preferably to me.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7365	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:25:00 - [95] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Explain that first part. If nobody is loosing money, there is no point in having a currency in the first place as nobody will ever have to worry about financial issues. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 102	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:26:00 - [96] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Are you really that stupid. Just because the player is new doesnt mean he sucks. Best gear doesnt mean youll mean, it makes you a fool. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:27:00 - [97] - Quote Like imagine playing monopoly but you refuse to ever buy property or something. You'd be like the worst person ever and I'd ban your ass from game night.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:28:00 - [98] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Are you really that stupid. Just because the player is new doesnt mean he sucks. Best gear doesnt mean youll mean, it makes you a fool. Yes I can tell from your signature you have a severe inferiority complex, that's ok. By the way, read the first line again where I already accounted for new players. I'm talking about the lazy ones.
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 696	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:34:00 - [99] - Quote I run cheap suits because math. I can go 10/4 in a suit that costs 15k or 14/2 in a suit that costs 90k: Why would I run the expensive version? To pad my KDR? I have a sniper build that can achieve that for me. Check that--my sniper build is a proto suit, everything else is standard/advanced, along with a few militia builds that I keep around. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
MINA Longstrike 570	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:36:00 - [100] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. It's obvious they haven't thanked Obama. Greentexting on DUST Forums. Confirmed lost. Bullet Points Being an idiot on the internet, confirmed. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3692	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:36:00 - [101] - Quote I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 450	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:39:00 - [102] - Quote Bad troll is bad. Git gud Himiko, then maybe people will care how good you are killing militia suits. Closed Beta Vet since May 2012 The Laser Rifle- Reach Out And Burn Slaves Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3692	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:42:00 - [103] - Quote It would be much more convenient if I could stay bad and keep talking.
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 158	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:48:00 - [104] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3695	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:53:00 - [105] - Quote Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves?
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 158	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:04:00 - [106] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves? Unlike you, i do not treat this game like a life or death situation, i hv more importing things to deal with in life than dealing with the drama i see. sure i like to win, but there is no harm in having fun while doing it. if i want to troll proto guys like you with knives and the likes, dnt be mad about it, especially if ypu are on a deathstreak by some guy in a militia suit because you make some mistakes. i try to keep a positive attitude for everyone to enjoy the game as i care about the rest of the community and what they feel about the situation. you can try and throw insults at me like an immature kid if ypu do so. its not gonna help you much anyway. everyone has their ways to play the game so i see no issue in militia guys. dumb blueberrys however..... Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 167	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:24:00 - [107] - Quote >Come back to forums >Sees 2 page thread turn into 6 page thread Gg, DNS. You managed to rustle some Jimmies. Everyone needs to go thank Obama so you can de-rustle these Jimmies. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1309	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:26:00 - [108] - Quote Oh my god. Let this ridiculously r3tarded thread die. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 689	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:29:00 - [109] - Quote i always ran std assault its not much more but several times more effective and customization and i ran standard because i like being challenged i never saw the point in trying to run proto It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 291	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:35:00 - [110] - Quote because good players dont need to compensate their lack of skill with proto suits One body, two bodies, three and four. One more makes the dragon roar... We the players are what's wrong with dust.

PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1309	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:38:00 - [111] - Quote You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2676	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:41:00 - [112] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves? Your a mercanary, your job is whatever younwant it to be. This holds no relevance to the gear used however. My Adv Minmatar Fit 2x Extenders 1x Energizer 1x Plate 1x Repper 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 480 Cost: 45,000 Isk My Frontline Amarr Fit 2x Extender 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 490 Cost 10,000 Isk This means on average I am permitted to loose just 5 Adv suits before going ISK negative, while I can loose 20 frontline suits and still be in tne black. Assuming an even match that comes down to about 5 clones left, you are looking at 9 deaths per person not accounting for snipers or logis who tip this scale. So if Im about to run into a Squad of stompers where Im likely to die 10+ times because Im 1 of 5 people not AFKing do I run the expensive suit with lower survivability or the cheap frontline? Also you still fail to account for fights either side where you don't see the person. Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 292	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:41:00 - [113] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? maybeeeeeeee One body, two bodies, three and four. One more makes the dragon roar... We the players are what's wrong with dust.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1311	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:44:00 - [114] - Quote Phazoid wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? maybeeeeeeee I might like ninjas. Might. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4473	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:45:00 - [115] - Quote Himiko - are you really asking why people would want to save money?? smh.... n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 730	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:46:00 - [116] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. Have another. We can pickle that.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 1264	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:51:00 - [117] - Quote In reality the majority of the player don't own BPOs or get payed a handsome amount of isk every PC or weekly paycheck. These players tend to use militia to make more isk than they would running std or adv gear. The real question is, why make 50k isk per match after expenses when you can make 150 to 300k per match by not investing a single isk. I do this myself since I don't own a full set of milita BPOs; something I regret not buying to this day, although I do own a dren and a covenant pack, they dont supply all the modules necesary to be a complete fit. when I dont feel like rushing isk into my wallet for my various experiments I just run drens o covenants or std and adv gears. Plasma Cannon Advocate Heavy event survivor
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 293	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:54:00 - [118] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Phazoid wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? maybeeeeeeee I might like ninjas. Might. hmmmm it sounds like probably, most likely you like ninjas hmmmmmmmmmm One body, two bodies, three and four. One more makes the dragon roar... We the players are what's wrong with dust.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1312	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:54:00 - [119] - Quote The only time I wish for CCP LogiBro. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 166	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:57:00 - [120] - Quote lol you understand 2 or 3 squads running this make 100 mill per squad a day right for your corp ? 300 mill x 3 or 4 days aweek ? you do the math

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3707	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:33:00 - [121] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves? Your a mercanary, your job is whatever younwant it to be. This holds no relevance to the gear used however. My Adv Minmatar Fit 2x Extenders 1x Energizer 1x Plate 1x Repper 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 480 Cost: 45,000 Isk My Frontline Amarr Fit 2x Extender 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 490 Cost 10,000 Isk This means on average I am permitted to loose just 5 Adv suits before going ISK negative, while I can loose 20 frontline suits and still be in tne black. Assuming an even match that comes down to about 5 clones left, you are looking at 9 deaths per person not accounting for snipers or logis who tip this scale. So if Im about to run into a Squad of stompers where Im likely to die 10+ times because Im 1 of 5 people not AFKing do I run the expensive suit with lower survivability or the cheap frontline? Also you still fail to account for fights either side where you don't see the person. Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. I don't think you properly understand what it means to be a mercenary. They aren't supposed to be paying you to try and lose. If losing was the goal, they wouldn't be paying anybody anything. Also I think you are further confused as to how winning is achieved. Getting likes on the forum does not cause victory. See, nothing is popping up on the game telling you that you won because somebody liked your post. I do find it valuable information however, that most people seem to believe they will lose an average of 350k for running advanced suits. That's pretty poor player performance I have to say. If it's really true, I can only assume that standard equipment is indeed the only way for you guys to remain profitable. Kind of sad, but there it is I guess. I suppose the most logical thing to do would be to simply quit Dust altogether as there is clearly no hope of ever actually attaining good equipment and using it correctly for profit, let alone actually contributing to a win. You're really just letting everyone around you down, and that's not really acceptable if you have a conscience. You do have a conscience, right? Might be better off with Halo where all equipment is equal. That would be a lot less stressful and you might contribute more.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2585	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:41:00 - [122] - Quote I've always found it odd too. I've always run the best gear I had skills for. STD gear is just so much better than MLT gear and is still dirt cheap. When I see people using MLT gear I feel like they deserve to be protostomped. Get some real gear!!!
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1474	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:43:00 - [123] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: low genius wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: low genius wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR looking over your eve online fits, i'm not certain you're the guy to be calling people stupid. Show me them please. okay, but it's not going to be pretty. one sec. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21614834 if anyone has every seen a worse domi fit, please let me know. That domi fit successfully held off 5+ pilots simultaneously for more than a month straight because they were too scared to risk anything larger than a T1 frigate. It also managed to drop orbitals at the same time. It was a super situational fit for a situational opponent that had to do many things at once, and I dare say it's an incredibly good fit for that situation. If you want to talk trash, that's fine. My team needed orbital support and I had one account available to provide it with. I did it with the one ship using the one fit that could. If you want to talk trash about it, let's go into how long it took for your guys to actually grow a pair and do something about it? after that we can talk about how you ride my pilot's coat tails now :P eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 169	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:45:00 - [124] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. Same here. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3707	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:45:00 - [125] - Quote I can't say I understand what you're talking about.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1324	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:48:00 - [126] - Quote Let it go. This thread sucks. I commented on it to confirm. HTFO Himiko. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3707	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:52:00 - [127] - Quote I will always be there to remind people of their worthlessness. You can discourage the messenger, and you can even threaten or physically harm him. But you can never make a better canned treat than Chef Boyardee.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4480	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:57:00 - [128] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I will always be there to remind people of their worthlessness. You can discourage the messenger, and you can even threaten or physically harm him. But you can never make a better canned treat than Chef Boyardee. You are not making a point. You are saying they're idiots for not wanting to lose money fighting against teams that WILL have proto in them. There is no logic here that computes. Calling people out on what they want to afford is absurd, we all value ISK differently. Do not force your perspectives on others. If you wish to avoid being on bad teams - Qsync. That's what HvLP does. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 164	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:02:00 - [129] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I will always be there to remind people of their worthlessness. You can discourage the messenger, and you can even threaten or physically harm him. But you can never make a better canned treat than Chef Boyardee. you keep thinkin that. dunno why you want more haters, especially if the worthless ones are the ones with a nasty attitude. Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Dericha Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 40	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:02:00 - [130] - Quote I went 24/13 in all standard fits and made money. It's not about the Militia fits. SP sunk into passives and proficiencies is the real disadvantage for new players. Or specialized alts. I only use proto when I click the wrong fit when I want to up my game to an advanced. Oh, except my forge gun. Standard AV is like using a balloon slingshot full of Tickle-Me Elmos. Reformed logibro NERF TACTICS!



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