DUST Search - Why do so many pub scrubs only ever run MLT crap?

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one.

And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot.

Well when you are running proto with 6 other proto players in a communicating and organised squad, tanks fit to competitive level play....against newberries, unsquadded, disorganised players with poorly fit vehicles...... thats not surprising..... and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut......

I've never seen Himiko pubbing in squads (although I've only seen him a few times).

I seem to remember him in a solo PRO HMG fit back in Chromosome, although that was a while ago and I might be crazy.

"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"

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Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [91] - Quote I'd just like to point out, for you thread derailing jackasses, that outer heaven and what the french were almost entirely inactive as a whole until this shenanigans prompted them to do something. In fact, many new names have surfaced that I've never seen before. The donut has given many of you a reason to fight. You should be thankful to DNS for bringing new and old talent, back to the surface.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 3030	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [92] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. Well when you are running proto with 6 other proto players in a communicating and organised squad, tanks fit to competitive level play....against newberries, unsquadded, disorganised players with poorly fit vehicles...... thats not surprising..... and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... I've never seen Himiko pubbing in squads (although I've only seen him a few times). I seem to remember him in a solo PRO HMG fit back in Chromosome, although that was a while ago and I might be crazy. ak.0 // 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees. Jillic gave me my 3000th like!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9793	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:24:00 - [93] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. Well when you are running proto with 6 other proto players in a communicating and organised squad, tanks fit to competitive level play....against newberries, unsquadded, disorganised players with poorly fit vehicles...... thats not surprising..... and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... I've never seen Himiko pubbing in squads (although I've only seen him a few times). I seem to remember him in a solo PRO HMG fit back in Chromosome, although that was a while ago and I might be crazy. We I guess he isn't leet enough to create a squad called "looking for squad leader" and inadvertently make use of 6 MLT HAV like the pro leet skillzors we truely are.... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:24:00 - [94] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. That's cool, then don't worry about what everyone else is doing. It's important for Economy that loss happens. And it's important for me to know you suffered. Explain that first part. New Eden's economy runs on an isk-to-tear conversion table. For every amount of isk that is lost and/or stolen, a certain amount of tears are produced and inserted into the economy. Without these tears being readily available for consumption there is a severe shortage of motivation to work, play, converse, or engage in sexual activities. It is therefore imperative that you lose isk. Preferably to me.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7365	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:25:00 - [95] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Explain that first part. If nobody is loosing money, there is no point in having a currency in the first place as nobody will ever have to worry about financial issues. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 102	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:26:00 - [96] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Are you really that stupid. Just because the player is new doesnt mean he sucks. Best gear doesnt mean youll mean, it makes you a fool. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:27:00 - [97] - Quote Like imagine playing monopoly but you refuse to ever buy property or something. You'd be like the worst person ever and I'd ban your ass from game night.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3685	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:28:00 - [98] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Are you really that stupid. Just because the player is new doesnt mean he sucks. Best gear doesnt mean youll mean, it makes you a fool. Yes I can tell from your signature you have a severe inferiority complex, that's ok. By the way, read the first line again where I already accounted for new players. I'm talking about the lazy ones.
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 696	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:34:00 - [99] - Quote I run cheap suits because math. I can go 10/4 in a suit that costs 15k or 14/2 in a suit that costs 90k: Why would I run the expensive version? To pad my KDR? I have a sniper build that can achieve that for me. Check that--my sniper build is a proto suit, everything else is standard/advanced, along with a few militia builds that I keep around. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
MINA Longstrike 570	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:36:00 - [100] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. It's obvious they haven't thanked Obama. Greentexting on DUST Forums. Confirmed lost. Bullet Points Being an idiot on the internet, confirmed. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3692	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:36:00 - [101] - Quote I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 450	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:39:00 - [102] - Quote Bad troll is bad. Git gud Himiko, then maybe people will care how good you are killing militia suits. Closed Beta Vet since May 2012 The Laser Rifle- Reach Out And Burn Slaves Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3692	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:42:00 - [103] - Quote It would be much more convenient if I could stay bad and keep talking.
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 158	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:48:00 - [104] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3695	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:53:00 - [105] - Quote Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves?
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 158	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:04:00 - [106] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves? Unlike you, i do not treat this game like a life or death situation, i hv more importing things to deal with in life than dealing with the drama i see. sure i like to win, but there is no harm in having fun while doing it. if i want to troll proto guys like you with knives and the likes, dnt be mad about it, especially if ypu are on a deathstreak by some guy in a militia suit because you make some mistakes. i try to keep a positive attitude for everyone to enjoy the game as i care about the rest of the community and what they feel about the situation. you can try and throw insults at me like an immature kid if ypu do so. its not gonna help you much anyway. everyone has their ways to play the game so i see no issue in militia guys. dumb blueberrys however..... Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 167	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:24:00 - [107] - Quote >Come back to forums >Sees 2 page thread turn into 6 page thread Gg, DNS. You managed to rustle some Jimmies. Everyone needs to go thank Obama so you can de-rustle these Jimmies. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1309	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:26:00 - [108] - Quote Oh my god. Let this ridiculously r3tarded thread die. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 689	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:29:00 - [109] - Quote i always ran std assault its not much more but several times more effective and customization and i ran standard because i like being challenged i never saw the point in trying to run proto It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 291	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:35:00 - [110] - Quote because good players dont need to compensate their lack of skill with proto suits One body, two bodies, three and four. One more makes the dragon roar... We the players are what's wrong with dust.

PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1309	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:38:00 - [111] - Quote You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2676	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:41:00 - [112] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves? Your a mercanary, your job is whatever younwant it to be. This holds no relevance to the gear used however. My Adv Minmatar Fit 2x Extenders 1x Energizer 1x Plate 1x Repper 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 480 Cost: 45,000 Isk My Frontline Amarr Fit 2x Extender 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 490 Cost 10,000 Isk This means on average I am permitted to loose just 5 Adv suits before going ISK negative, while I can loose 20 frontline suits and still be in tne black. Assuming an even match that comes down to about 5 clones left, you are looking at 9 deaths per person not accounting for snipers or logis who tip this scale. So if Im about to run into a Squad of stompers where Im likely to die 10+ times because Im 1 of 5 people not AFKing do I run the expensive suit with lower survivability or the cheap frontline? Also you still fail to account for fights either side where you don't see the person. Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 292	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:41:00 - [113] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? maybeeeeeeee One body, two bodies, three and four. One more makes the dragon roar... We the players are what's wrong with dust.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1311	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:44:00 - [114] - Quote Phazoid wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? maybeeeeeeee I might like ninjas. Might. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4473	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:45:00 - [115] - Quote Himiko - are you really asking why people would want to save money?? smh.... n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 730	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:46:00 - [116] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. Have another. We can pickle that.
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 1264	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:51:00 - [117] - Quote In reality the majority of the player don't own BPOs or get payed a handsome amount of isk every PC or weekly paycheck. These players tend to use militia to make more isk than they would running std or adv gear. The real question is, why make 50k isk per match after expenses when you can make 150 to 300k per match by not investing a single isk. I do this myself since I don't own a full set of milita BPOs; something I regret not buying to this day, although I do own a dren and a covenant pack, they dont supply all the modules necesary to be a complete fit. when I dont feel like rushing isk into my wallet for my various experiments I just run drens o covenants or std and adv gears. Plasma Cannon Advocate Heavy event survivor
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 293	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:54:00 - [118] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Phazoid wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: You really like dragons don't you Phaziod? maybeeeeeeee I might like ninjas. Might. hmmmm it sounds like probably, most likely you like ninjas hmmmmmmmmmm One body, two bodies, three and four. One more makes the dragon roar... We the players are what's wrong with dust.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1312	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:54:00 - [119] - Quote The only time I wish for CCP LogiBro. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 166	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:57:00 - [120] - Quote lol you understand 2 or 3 squads running this make 100 mill per squad a day right for your corp ? 300 mill x 3 or 4 days aweek ? you do the math



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