DUST Search - Why do so many pub scrubs only ever run MLT crap?

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played.

Is this due to

A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible?

B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning?

C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss?

D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit.......

Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor.

That's a bullshit excuse.

I've been running my same routine since before chromosome. And that's when heavies were expensive to run.

You don't need the backing of an alliance to run non-militia gear. That's a joke.

voidfaction wrote:

oh how I love my 3,420 isk scout

valor/dragonfly scout g-l
toxin assault
toxin smg
militia bpo
shield entender
armor plate
2x profile dampener
locus grenade
nanohive
ARN-18 Cloak Field

I can enjoy playing vs isk farmers with the same state of mind > it don't matter if I die i still make isk

You will make isk that you are too petrified to ever use. Good job.

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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 107	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:18:00 - [61] - Quote i run full on militia bpo's on starter suits so douchebags will make threads about it on the internet #workingasintended http://i58.tinypic.com/15f3muh.png http://i57.tinypic.com/301n33b.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/30c4pwk.jpg
voidfaction Void of Faction 216	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:18:00 - [62] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. That's a bullshit excuse. I've been running my same routine since before chromosome. And that's when heavies were expensive to run. You don't need the backing of an alliance to run non-militia gear. That's a joke. voidfaction wrote: oh how I love my 3,420 isk scout valor/dragonfly scout g-l toxin assault toxin smg militia bpo shield entender armor plate 2x profile dampener locus grenade nanohive ARN-18 Cloak Field I can enjoy playing vs isk farmers with the same state of mind > it don't matter if I die i still make isk You will make isk that you are too petrified to ever use. Good job. I use it plenty with proto fittings. I just don't use them till the protostompen Qsync tards are done caping out so the teams are more fair.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1711	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:19:00 - [63] - Quote I love taking out protostompers with militia Min assault and basic mass driver, militia heavy with Rail Rifle works well too. Have a nice day... CEO Whiskey squad leader, E9 Once Bitten Twice Shy....
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4090	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:20:00 - [64] - Quote I run MLT fits to train in, to make sure I acquire 100% ISK gain in a session and finally because I want to. It's a pub match. I don't take it too seriously. In a FW and PC, IMO, yea I would look at you funny for running MLT. Especially in PC, that would be hilarious. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 2086	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:22:00 - [65] - Quote Now, now dat militia tank last night Himiko you were in a PRO heavy but still dat militia tank. ISK Donuts are delicious Q_Q Moar
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7352	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:24:00 - [66] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: I love taking out protostompers with militia Min assault and basic mass driver, militia heavy with Rail Rifle works well too. Have a nice day... Why use MLT Heavy when you can use a STD Commando with comparable eHP, another Light Weapon, and similar ISK efficiency? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9788	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:25:00 - [67] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Not everyone happens to be in the largest alliance of players Molden Heath has every known who holistically dominate a massive passive ISK flow and will never need to worry about ISK ever again, use this knowledge and power to destroy the assets of those who aren't ensuring they don't have the ISK to make use of Proto content against them and force them into earning ISK by ensuring they play to a set value to get a marginal profit....... Fortunately I don't care...... I've been throwing away ISK and assets in the biggest ISK sink in the game for months now...... I'm choosing to be poor. That's a bullshit excuse. I've been running my same routine since before chromosome. And that's when heavies were expensive to run. You don't need the backing of an alliance to run non-militia gear. That's a joke. It's not, when a groups main source of ISK has to be Public Contracts maximising profits in the smartest answer for them as it shortens the time they have to far....whereas an Alliance that makes billions of ISK weekly can afford to naturally pay and subsidise their players losses if necessary. If most smaller corporations could afford to subsidise their mercenaries costs they would not run MLT as often to farm the ISK. It IS as simple as that. BPO and MLT gear is the best in terms of ISK efficiency when trying to grind out ISK. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 199	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:26:00 - [68] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR A- i have around 25 different fittings. I'd rather loose a 450isk fitting than a 268k isk fitting B- its better teammates that help you win C- who really cares about k/d? Its a game D- i dont always let a blueberry ride in my LAV, but when i do... They steal it the second i get out
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4090	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:27:00 - [69] - Quote lol people seem to lack the capabilities of placing themselves in other people's shoes... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3676	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:28:00 - [70] - Quote Here, more links of my terrible fit killing "apparently superior" pilots. Remember guys, I don't even have a point on that thing. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21416885 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21298280 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21458191 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21460578 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21524904 (hawkin was so impressed with my fit he copied it and assisted me on this one) http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21542444 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21614835 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21622702

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7353	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:31:00 - [71] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: [...] I've never played EVE, but is there really a such thing as a bad fitting there? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3677	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:32:00 - [72] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR A- i have around 25 different fittings. I'd rather loose a 450isk fitting than a 268k isk fitting B- its better teammates that help you win C- who really cares about k/d? Its a game D- i dont always let a blueberry ride in my LAV, but when i do... They steal it the second i get out If I create a video that proves you wrong on B, will you send me all of your isk so I can put it to better use?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3677	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:35:00 - [73] - Quote Atiim wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: [...] I've never played EVE, but is there really a such thing as a bad fitting there? EVE is like rock paper scissors but a lot more complicated. If you are outnumbered or have the wrong fitting for a specific fight, then it was over before the fight even began. Bad fits are fits that can handle no situation, or handle a situation in an underwhelming fashion. Genius here is pissed off because my fit was so good it managed to screw his friends over for a month. It's a particularly painful point because the ship is loaded with warp core stabs, which basically negate someones attempt to warp scramble you but make it so you can't target anything or fight back. No one in their right mind fits a pvp ship with warp core stabs, thats like the worst fit ever! Or so the elitist paper pvp'rs would tell you, except I didn't need to target anything though, just drop orbitals. And I didn't need to fight back because my drones would do that for me the moment these clowns took any hostile action. And they always did. For a month straight.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 501	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:39:00 - [74] - Quote My proto scout cost 120 k isk ( pub fitt ) The PC scout cost 200 k isk My advanced scout fits cost 40-60k isk My basic cost ..... 3000 isk Awarage payout in pub for me is 250 k isk Now do the numbers War never changes
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3680	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:53:00 - [75] - Quote Currently scouts can survive longer than any opponent in the game due to radar+visual concealment, total situational awareness and first mover advantage. I would probably be rocking advanced the majority of the time as a novice, and switch to proto when i got good at it.
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:56:00 - [76] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. id love to see dirt bag squad run adv fittings only for a day. I know most of you are elite. The other half are trolls.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3682	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:00:00 - [77] - Quote danie braz wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. id love to see dirt bag squad run adv fittings only for a day. I know most of you are elite. The other half are trolls. I'm an elite troll. How will you handle this magnificence?
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1148	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:02:00 - [78] - Quote I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7359	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:02:00 - [79] - Quote danie braz wrote: id love to see dirt bag squad run adv fittings only for a day. I know most of you are elite. The other half are trolls. So basically do what I do everyday? The only thing that's off the table for that is Biotics, AV, and EWAR. Everything else is fair game mkay? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7359	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:03:00 - [80] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. Not everyone in DNS is rich... Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3682	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:04:00 - [81] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1307	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:06:00 - [82] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. I don't expect you to act anything other then stupid. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9792	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:13:00 - [83] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I don't expect some one from DNS to understand loosing incredible amounts of isk and grinding back your lost money. When I loose lots of dropships and they don't survive any games and don't make me any money back then I hvpave to run sh-ítty cheap gear to make some money for another one. And I don't expect you to understand that I go isk positive from pubs the majority of the time, so any point you raised regarding being part of DNS is made moot. Well when you are running proto with 6 other proto players in a communicating and organised squad, tanks fit to competitive level play....against newberries, unsquadded, disorganised players with poorly fit vehicles...... thats not surprising..... and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1307	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:15:00 - [84] - Quote Can someone please tell me WHAT THE HELL IS A DONUT? Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3683	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:16:00 - [85] - Quote Once upon a time there was a poor scrublet named Himiko (this would be a good place to end the story for most but I'll keep going). Himiko played on keyboard and mouse, because rawr PC gaming. He noticed this game had a terrible frame rate and there wasn't a lot of hit detection consistency, and from a competitive standpoint this pissed him off too much to bother with CQC. So he decided to become a sniper because it seemed like a less frustrating way to preserve KDR and make money as threats were limited in scope (hur hur, get it?). Once he had around 15-20 mil or so, he decided he wanted to experience more parts of the game outside of being a head glitching jerkoff. So he went from one extreme to another and jumped into a heavy suit with an HMG to get up close and personal. These suits were expensive, but then, if times were tough he could always fall back to sniping right? Well here's the thing kids. Times never got tough. I raped, pillaged and plundered fifty thousand corpses and I'll keep on going for another fifty thousand more. A while afterwards I got picked up by some reputable gentlemen who noticed there was a lone figure still standing at the end of the long trail of broken dreams and whiny adolescents. Then, when uprising came out, everything changed. My suits got cheaper. A lot cheaper. Suddenly I was allowed to die more than twice in a match and still make a profit. And that's how Himiko saved Christmas. Wait, what was this thread about?
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7364	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:18:00 - [86] - Quote True Adamance wrote: and don't tell me this is just a precaution in case of high level competition, if you were out for high level competitive play DNS would not have the top 5 corporations composing its donut...... DNS is loves competition, just not repetition. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Egonz4 292	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:20:00 - [87] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Because some people aren't rich, want to make lots of money's and don't care what you think Master of The Flaylock
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9793	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:21:00 - [88] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Can someone please tell me WHAT THE HELL IS A DONUT? In Dust 514 general circle of corporations sucking the filthy excrement they call PSA's out the asses of the next corporation in the link.... think the HumanCentipede but there players are doing it voluntarily....... ...... nah.... In other games it's just the general term given to a grouping of player groups with the goal being to not fight or have conflict for they can reap the benefits.... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1311	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:21:00 - [89] - Quote At 0/15 how can you expect them to run anything else. You should be able to figure this out on your own. Maybe you affection for stupidity is rubbing off. Crush them
Toby Flenderson research lab 526	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [90] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Kaminoikari wrote: >All options begin with stupidity >DNS member making the thread DNS confirmed for stupidity. Hurp durp. Impossible. I run proto. That's cool, then don't worry about what everyone else is doing. It's important for Economy that loss happens. And it's important for me to know you suffered. Explain that first part.



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