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Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2014.04.27 21:26:00 -
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PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK
PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK
Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2014.04.27 21:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK
PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK
Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it.
The question is why would I spend it against a proto wolfpack?
Think about it, why bother wasting it.
If you are asking why no one seems to bother putting up a fight, try runing solo once in a while, when you come across a wolfpack see just how much you loose.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Posted - 2014.04.27 21:53:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:PubStomp using Adv gear: 350,000 ISK
PubStomp using Frontline gear: 000,000 ISK
Terminating an enemy Prototype Fit: Price less Isk is pointless if you never spend it. The question is why would I spend it against a proto wolfpack? Think about it, why bother wasting it. If you are asking why no one seems to bother putting up a fight, try runing solo once in a while, when you come across a wolfpack see just how much you loose. "Proto wolfpacks". Pffft. I run solo 99.9% of the time. You run advanced the majority of the time, run proto when you want to have some fun smacking people around. That's how you make money and kill those people.
Hahaha please, don't spout such rubbish, I mean without a squad to rep and rez you. Actual solo.
It takes just 5 deaths to pull negative from a 250,000 ISK payout, which is about average, if you win.
Now bear in mind the lack of logi users nowadays, unless you have support like yourself, it's not exactly difficult.
But your entire attitude throughout this post matches the same as every other stomper, why aren't people bothering to fight my unbridled use of spam or FOTM?
What suit do you run out of interest, what fit?
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Hahaha please, don't spout such rubbish, I mean without a squad to rep and rez you. Actual solo.
It takes just 5 deaths to pull negative from a 250,000 ISK payout, which is about average, if you win.
Now bear in mind the lack of logi users nowadays, unless you have support like yourself, it's not exactly difficult.
But your entire attitude throughout this post matches the same as every other stomper, why aren't people bothering to fight my unbridled use of spam or FOTM?
What suit do you run out of interest, what fit?
He runs a Sentinel w/HMGs Not sure which race though.
Gallante with plenty of plates 
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:44:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:This isn't about running proto 24/7. This also isn't about having DNS tags. The problem is that most people who complain about getting smashed simply contribute it to proto. Proto isn't all that great, all it takes is a good flanking and you're rightfully screwed no matter what you wear. What Himiko is trying to bring up is the fact that militia just sucks, and makes doing anything nearly impossible.
You can still be fairly effective running standard gear, and turn a profit. my average std suit costs around 1200 Isk per suit. You get approximately 150-250 thousand average per match. Which means you can lose about 9-20 suits and that will break you.
Not many people I know will lose that many suits in a pub unless it was a really intense match, which increases payout. Point being that Militia sucks, you can still run a decent STD fitting, be effective, and turn a profit. Spend the money.
Yeah but why run a std fit, when a comparable 'frontline' fit is free.
I have a fit that costs me just 5,000 ISK a pop, and only because I shell out for the ACR, when it comes to a WTF/AE/DNS pubstomp I know no matter how much I loose Imwill still probably make a profit and if I can ensure that at least one of them doesn't get a perfect KDR then all the better.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 01:41:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end.
So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. *facepalm* guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves?
Your a mercanary, your job is whatever younwant it to be.
This holds no relevance to the gear used however.
My Adv Minmatar Fit
2x Extenders
1x Energizer
1x Plate
1x Repper
1x BK-42 ACR
1x M1204 ASMG
EHP: 480
Cost: 45,000 Isk
My Frontline Amarr Fit
2x Extender
1x BK-42 ACR
1x M1204 ASMG
EHP: 490
Cost 10,000 Isk
This means on average I am permitted to loose just 5 Adv suits before going ISK negative, while I can loose 20 frontline suits and still be in tne black.
Assuming an even match that comes down to about 5 clones left, you are looking at 9 deaths per person not accounting for snipers or logis who tip this scale.
So if Im about to run into a Squad of stompers where Im likely to die 10+ times because Im 1 of 5 people not AFKing do I run the expensive suit with lower survivability or the cheap frontline? Also you still fail to account for fights either side where you don't see the person.
Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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