DUST Search - Why do so many pub scrubs only ever run MLT crap?

Monkey MAC wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end.

So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person.

*facepalm* guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic....

Tell me how you really feel.

Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason?

Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves?

Your a mercanary, your job is whatever younwant it to be.
This holds no relevance to the gear used however.

My Adv Minmatar Fit
2x Extenders
1x Energizer
1x Plate
1x Repper

1x BK-42 ACR
1x M1204 ASMG

EHP: 480
Cost: 45,000 Isk

My Frontline Amarr Fit
2x Extender
1x BK-42 ACR
1x M1204 ASMG

EHP: 490
Cost 10,000 Isk

This means on average I am permitted to loose just 5 Adv suits before going ISK negative, while I can loose 20 frontline suits and still be in tne black.
Assuming an even match that comes down to about 5 clones left, you are looking at 9 deaths per person not accounting for snipers or logis who tip this scale.

So if Im about to run into a Squad of stompers where Im likely to die 10+ times because Im 1 of 5 people not AFKing do I run the expensive suit with lower survivability or the cheap frontline? Also you still fail to account for fights either side where you don't see the person.

Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes.

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Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3707	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:33:00 - [121] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I was the under the impression that the point of the game was to win. Better equipment improves your odds of that, and hoarding isk seems to only be a means to an end. So realistically, it can be said that if you run cheap all the time you're really just being a horrible person. facepalm guys...dunno how to respond to this interesting logic.... Tell me how you really feel. Do you feel you have an obligation to try your best to win, within reason? Or are you of the mentality that you have no obligation to your team and everybody can go **** themselves? Your a mercanary, your job is whatever younwant it to be. This holds no relevance to the gear used however. My Adv Minmatar Fit 2x Extenders 1x Energizer 1x Plate 1x Repper 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 480 Cost: 45,000 Isk My Frontline Amarr Fit 2x Extender 1x BK-42 ACR 1x M1204 ASMG EHP: 490 Cost 10,000 Isk This means on average I am permitted to loose just 5 Adv suits before going ISK negative, while I can loose 20 frontline suits and still be in tne black. Assuming an even match that comes down to about 5 clones left, you are looking at 9 deaths per person not accounting for snipers or logis who tip this scale. So if Im about to run into a Squad of stompers where Im likely to die 10+ times because Im 1 of 5 people not AFKing do I run the expensive suit with lower survivability or the cheap frontline? Also you still fail to account for fights either side where you don't see the person. Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. I don't think you properly understand what it means to be a mercenary. They aren't supposed to be paying you to try and lose. If losing was the goal, they wouldn't be paying anybody anything. Also I think you are further confused as to how winning is achieved. Getting likes on the forum does not cause victory. See, nothing is popping up on the game telling you that you won because somebody liked your post. I do find it valuable information however, that most people seem to believe they will lose an average of 350k for running advanced suits. That's pretty poor player performance I have to say. If it's really true, I can only assume that standard equipment is indeed the only way for you guys to remain profitable. Kind of sad, but there it is I guess. I suppose the most logical thing to do would be to simply quit Dust altogether as there is clearly no hope of ever actually attaining good equipment and using it correctly for profit, let alone actually contributing to a win. You're really just letting everyone around you down, and that's not really acceptable if you have a conscience. You do have a conscience, right? Might be better off with Halo where all equipment is equal. That would be a lot less stressful and you might contribute more.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2585	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:41:00 - [122] - Quote I've always found it odd too. I've always run the best gear I had skills for. STD gear is just so much better than MLT gear and is still dirt cheap. When I see people using MLT gear I feel like they deserve to be protostomped. Get some real gear!!!
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1474	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:43:00 - [123] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: low genius wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: low genius wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I expect to see some folks run it because they are new and have no choice, but there's a shockingly high number of people who never actually edit any of their fittings, regardless of how long they've played. Is this due to A) Stupidity and lack of knowledge that customization is possible? B) Stupidity and lack of awareness that better equipment improves your odds of winning? C) Stupidity and lack of balls concerning the fear of loss? D) Stupidity and WHY ARE YOU DRIVING AWAY LET ME IN YOUR TANK DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR looking over your eve online fits, i'm not certain you're the guy to be calling people stupid. Show me them please. okay, but it's not going to be pretty. one sec. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21614834 if anyone has every seen a worse domi fit, please let me know. That domi fit successfully held off 5+ pilots simultaneously for more than a month straight because they were too scared to risk anything larger than a T1 frigate. It also managed to drop orbitals at the same time. It was a super situational fit for a situational opponent that had to do many things at once, and I dare say it's an incredibly good fit for that situation. If you want to talk trash, that's fine. My team needed orbital support and I had one account available to provide it with. I did it with the one ship using the one fit that could. If you want to talk trash about it, let's go into how long it took for your guys to actually grow a pair and do something about it? after that we can talk about how you ride my pilot's coat tails now :P eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 169	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:45:00 - [124] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Although I feel, your entire purpose was just to troll everyonr, in which thanks sucker, because my first statement is worth 20+ likes. Same here. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3707	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:45:00 - [125] - Quote I can't say I understand what you're talking about.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1324	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:48:00 - [126] - Quote Let it go. This thread sucks. I commented on it to confirm. HTFO Himiko. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3707	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:52:00 - [127] - Quote I will always be there to remind people of their worthlessness. You can discourage the messenger, and you can even threaten or physically harm him. But you can never make a better canned treat than Chef Boyardee.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4480	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:57:00 - [128] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I will always be there to remind people of their worthlessness. You can discourage the messenger, and you can even threaten or physically harm him. But you can never make a better canned treat than Chef Boyardee. You are not making a point. You are saying they're idiots for not wanting to lose money fighting against teams that WILL have proto in them. There is no logic here that computes. Calling people out on what they want to afford is absurd, we all value ISK differently. Do not force your perspectives on others. If you wish to avoid being on bad teams - Qsync. That's what HvLP does. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 164	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:02:00 - [129] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I will always be there to remind people of their worthlessness. You can discourage the messenger, and you can even threaten or physically harm him. But you can never make a better canned treat than Chef Boyardee. you keep thinkin that. dunno why you want more haters, especially if the worthless ones are the ones with a nasty attitude. Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Dericha Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 40	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:02:00 - [130] - Quote I went 24/13 in all standard fits and made money. It's not about the Militia fits. SP sunk into passives and proficiencies is the real disadvantage for new players. Or specialized alts. I only use proto when I click the wrong fit when I want to up my game to an advanced. Oh, except my forge gun. Standard AV is like using a balloon slingshot full of Tickle-Me Elmos. Reformed logibro NERF TACTICS!



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