DUST Search - CCP - if you do tiercide for the FanFest expansion

Vrain Matari wrote:

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Want players like myself to leave then keep listening to pollution like such and you will find out .

Players like my self play for the variety and the customization factor , you got away from that with the vehicles and the side arms that you just introduced , also ... don't think that there are some who aren't aware of what your doing CCP because your game isn't that dam addictive .. hell ****** and crack addict's can kick their prospective drugs so this game can not be that dam demanding .

Your slowly killing this game by listening to the poison of the community .

There are a mass of game's that have the same concept but yet people come and play dust because it's not those other games but it is slowly evolving into those other games so , why play this as well ???

You keep listening CCP and you will have what you ask for , time will tell .

You players who want easy mode go and play that other crap and let those who love to compete play dust .

You jerks are ruining this game for the rest of us .

F'kin A, bubba. You are a merc's merc. o7

Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9047	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:15:00 - [1] - Quote Then I will take back everything bad I have ever said about CCP and sing your praises on the forums. Do not disappoint me humans. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1141	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:40:00 - [2] - Quote Tiercide would ruin the ground game. The vehicle game was pretty good besides the unbalance and now there is only a handful of fits, tiercide would really make the ground game dull, not improve it.
A recent Recruit Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 15	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:42:00 - [3] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Tiercide would ruin the ground game. The vehicle game was pretty good besides the unbalance and now there is only a handful of fits, tiercide would really make the ground game dull, not improve it. Dull for protostompers maybe, but fun for everyone else.
Tweaksz Jaded Clones 60	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:43:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Then I will take back everything bad I have ever said about CCP and sing your praises on the forums. Do not disappoint me humans. This... Unicorn GalScout with TAR/BAR and IoP/BoltP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9050	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:46:00 - [5] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Tiercide would ruin the ground game. The vehicle game was pretty good besides the unbalance and now there is only a handful of fits, tiercide would really make the ground game dull, not improve it. On the contrary, having everyone run around in a "protosuit" instead of the wet tissue paper that is an STD suit would be interesting. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3070	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:47:00 - [6] - Quote What will probably be revealed at fanfest: -Graphics update like always -Plans for more EVE connections (most likely how they will "fix" PC) -Redesign of the way we play the game (better map design, revamped game modes, redefining the vehicle dimension) -Another "great" idea of theirs for changing the NPE that won't actually do much at all. What I want them to reveal at fanfest: -New game modes and/or PVE alpha gameplay -NPE being their MAIN priority and focus -To tell us that they're going to shift their focus away from content -A heavy weapon What they won't reveal at fanfest: -How they're scrapping everything so far and are going to do tiercide -Dust on PS4, PC, or Xbone -Tons of new content Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 634	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:54:00 - [7] - Quote Tiercide on suits would be a great boon to the game. The power gap created by suits is large. Not only do you get more CPU/PG to fit better things, you get more slots to fit more things as well. Medium frame EHP is not medium
Rifter7 Ancient Exiles. 419	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:32:00 - [8] - Quote can we just make it so everyone can afford proto suits from pub profits? like have the payout be 500k - 1mil. bam. farm if you want, but you have the choice to bring some proto ****. Primus sucks.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 648	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:40:00 - [9] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Tiercide would ruin the ground game. The vehicle game was pretty good besides the unbalance and now there is only a handful of fits, tiercide would really make the ground game dull, not improve it. Amen . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 648	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:43:00 - [10] - Quote Rifter7 wrote: can we just make it so everyone can afford proto suits from pub profits? like have the payout be 500k - 1mil. bam. farm if you want, but you have the choice to bring some proto **. NO . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .**

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 648	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:46:00 - [11] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Tiercide on suits would be a great boon to the game. The power gap created by suits is large. Not only do you get more CPU/PG to fit better things, you get more slots to fit more things as well. That's why you play and compete , this should not be easy and cater to those who just do not want to work for what is needed to succeed . These people are trying to kill this game like they dummied down the vehicles . Wonder how that's working with a large percentage of post about vehicles and how they are ruining the game . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3032	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:53:00 - [12] - Quote I'm honestly not a big fan of tiercide, don't know why but I just don't. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Yan Darn Science For Death 684	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:53:00 - [13] - Quote Many people don't understand tiercide. I'm not sure why. Probably never seen it work in EVE - Probably think they need to be further rewarded for SP investment. Having somethin do exactly the same thing as something else, but better =/= variety. Especially without asymmetrical warfare. Defining Tiers as 'variety/diversity' is the definition of dumbed down gameplay, that appeals to CoD players that weren't very good at CoD. The Ghost of Bravo
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2024	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:57:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Then I will take back everything bad I have ever said about CCP and sing your praises on the forums. Do not disappoint me humans. Tiericide: The forum's version of the nanny state. We're already halfway there with the passive in-match sp dole. In the spirit of the OP's suggestion, CCP should also hand out bunny stickers and 'awards' for any merc who goes better than 0/0/25 in a match. And don't forget a 'gold star commendation' for any merc who shows up with his gun, and two 'gold star commendations' if it's loaded. Maybe we should just make it a colorful/cartoony 'IWS/Cat Merc' sticker instead. And CCP, any merc who makes it through an in-depth, hands on, performance-measuring tutorial/walkthrough with timed trials and several combat/recon/battlefield awareness modules, you can give those recruits a 'Vrain' sticker. o7 I support SP rollover.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 649	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:59:00 - [15] - Quote Want players like myself to leave then keep listening to pollution like such and you will find out . Players like my self play for the variety and the customization factor , you got away from that with the vehicles and the side arms that you just introduced , also ... don't think that there are some who aren't aware of what your doing CCP because your game isn't that dam addictive .. hell **** and crack addict's can kick their prospective drugs so this game can not be that dam demanding . Your slowly killing this game by listening to the poison of the community . There are a mass of game's that have the same concept but yet people come and play dust because it's not those other games but it is slowly evolving into those other games so , why play this as well ??? You keep listening CCP and you will have what you ask for , time will tell . You players who want easy mode go and play that other crap and let those who love to compete play dust . You jerks are ruining this game for the rest of us . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .**
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 165	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:01:00 - [16] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I'm honestly not a big fan of tiercide, don't know why but I just don't. Probably because you, like everyone else who's against it, don't actually know what it is.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2025	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:02:00 - [17] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Want players like myself to leave then keep listening to pollution like such and you will find out . Players like my self play for the variety and the customization factor , you got away from that with the vehicles and the side arms that you just introduced , also ... don't think that there are some who aren't aware of what your doing CCP because your game isn't that dam addictive .. hell ****** and crack addict's can kick their prospective drugs so this game can not be that dam demanding . Your slowly killing this game by listening to the poison of the community . There are a mass of game's that have the same concept but yet people come and play dust because it's not those other games but it is slowly evolving into those other games so , why play this as well ??? You keep listening CCP and you will have what you ask for , time will tell . You players who want easy mode go and play that other crap and let those who love to compete play dust . You jerks are ruining this game for the rest of us . F'kin A, bubba. You are a merc's merc. o7 I support SP rollover.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 649	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:07:00 - [18] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: Many people don't understand tiercide. You sound like one of those economist who spoke during the 80's about tying the world's economy into one world economy ," No let's not let people decide for themselves when we can do it for them , we know better than they do anyway ... what " they " want ." Wonder how that's going now for those who had jobs and now don't because the company that they worked for took the plant that provided for their town or city and placed it somewhere else so they can turn a larger profit and flood the economy with crappy , cheep goods for less pay and more labor . That's how Dust will be with tiericide . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 649	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:09:00 - [19] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Want players like myself to leave then keep listening to pollution like such and you will find out . Players like my self play for the variety and the customization factor , you got away from that with the vehicles and the side arms that you just introduced , also ... don't think that there are some who aren't aware of what your doing CCP because your game isn't that dam addictive .. hell **** and crack addict's can kick their prospective drugs so this game can not be that dam demanding . Your slowly killing this game by listening to the poison of the community . There are a mass of game's that have the same concept but yet people come and play dust because it's not those other games but it is slowly evolving into those other games so , why play this as well ??? You keep listening CCP and you will have what you ask for , time will tell . You players who want easy mode go and play that other crap and let those who love to compete play dust . You jerks are ruining this game for the rest of us . F'kin A, bubba. You are a merc's merc. o7 Thank you . I try . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .**
Jebus McKing Sinister Souls 355	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:11:00 - [20] - Quote 1) Tiericide =/= remove ADV and PRO and replace them with NOTHING. 2) Tiericide = transform ADV and PRO to fit different roles rather than them being plain better versions of the lower tier. => Tiericide increases variety Noone in their right minds is asking CCP to just remove the upper tiers! We want them to be replaced by something that is more of a side-grade than a simple upgrade! @JebusMcKing // TIERICIDE, just do it, CCP. ò_Ô

Yan Darn Science For Death 690	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:15:00 - [21] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Yan Darn wrote: Many people don't understand tiercide. You sound like one of those economist who spoke during the 80's about tying the world's economy into one world economy ," No let's not let people decide for themselves when we can do it for them , we know better than they do anyway ... what " they " want ." Wonder how that's going now for those who had jobs and now don't because the company that they worked for took the plant that provided for their town or city and placed it somewhere else so they can turn a larger profit and flood the economy with crappy , cheep goods for less pay and more labor . That's how Dust will be with tiericide . No, I'm like a British/French person trying explain to a Saudi prince that democracy and egalitarian principles are the way forward. You know, cause we know from experience (EVE) this path isn't sustainable. The Ghost of Bravo
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 170	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:21:00 - [22] - Quote Open question for anyone who opposes tiericide: What exactly do you think tiericide is?
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2026	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:24:00 - [23] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: 1) Tiericide =/= remove ADV and PRO and replace them with NOTHING. 2) Tiericide = transform ADV and PRO to fit different roles rather than them being plain better versions of the lower tier. => Tiericide increases variety Noone in their right minds is asking CCP to just remove the upper tiers! We want them to be replaced by something that is more of a side-grade than a simple upgrade! I understand what tiericide means, and there are some parts of the tiericide argument that have merit. But when it gets invoked as a way to level the sp/gear/isk playing field, then it's absolute poison - for DUST and New Eden. I support SP rollover.
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 351	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:27:00 - [24] - Quote I was a fan of tiericide before I started accumulating more skillpoints. Once I learned to upgrade core skills before all else, I enjoyed significantly more survivability. Once I got those done and started leveling up my weapons I started enjoying more utility and damage. Putting in the time and effort that I have has led me to appreciate where I've gotten. I no longer wish for tiericide. Earn your stripes, and enjoy the benefits afterward. Tiericide will greatly hamper the high degree of customizability the game currently offers imho. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2026	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:28:00 - [25] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: Open question for anyone who opposes tiericide: What exactly do you think tiericide is? Open question for anyone who opposes a deeply unlevel playing field: why do you think it's bad? I support SP rollover.
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 351	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:30:00 - [26] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: Open question for anyone who opposes tiericide: What exactly do you think tiericide is? As I understand it (I googled it when I started hearing it thrown around a lot), it means the elimination of tiers (basic/enhance/complex, STD/ADV/PRO). No thank you. Imho, tiericide may improve the game experience in the short term, but it will damage it in the long term. If CCP can get its act together and introduce a new, revamped NPE, PvE, and a player market...the game will be very strongly positively impacted in both the short and long term. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9055	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:30:00 - [27] - Quote My version of tiercide involves the removal of STD/ADV suits (Weapons and modules stay as is), making Basic suits cost a lot less while making specialized suits cost a lot more. You will still have progression with core skills, weapons, modules and suit bonuses. The only thing that is removed is the power gap that suits create, which IMO is too much. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 171	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:32:00 - [28] - Quote Zaaeed Massani wrote: Tiericide will greatly hamper the high degree of customizability the game currently offers imho. How? I've seen several people make this claim but not a single argument to support it.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9055	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:34:00 - [29] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: Zaaeed Massani wrote: Tiericide will greatly hamper the high degree of customizability the game currently offers imho. How? I've seen several people make this claim but not a single argument to support it. Because it doesn't exist. Having everyone in a "protosuit" INCREASES customization, as everyone has a lot of module slots. STD and ADV suits are barely customizable in comparison to proto. And no one in their right mind would remove the different module and weapon tiers, that exists in EVE for a good reason: CPU/PG, and it should exist in DUST too. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1009	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:36:00 - [30] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: 1) Tiericide =/= remove ADV and PRO and replace them with NOTHING. 2) Tiericide = transform ADV and PRO to fit different roles rather than them being plain better versions of the lower tier. => Tiericide increases variety Noone in their right minds is asking CCP to just remove the upper tiers! We want them to be replaced by something that is more of a side-grade than a simple upgrade! Or I could just fit a suit for the role I want to play. They defined logi roles based on the suit, now you don't see as many people running logi fits. It's no longer worth risking that much ISK when 2/rds of your equipment isn't going to get you worth while WP. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles



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