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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.27 13:40:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Tiercide would ruin the ground game. The vehicle game was pretty good besides the unbalance and now there is only a handful of fits, tiercide would really make the ground game dull, not improve it. Amen .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.27 13:43:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:can we just make it so everyone can afford proto suits from pub profits? like have the payout be 500k - 1mil. bam. farm if you want, but you have the choice to bring some proto ****. NO .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.27 13:46:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Tiercide on suits would be a great boon to the game.
The power gap created by suits is large. Not only do you get more CPU/PG to fit better things, you get more slots to fit more things as well. That's why you play and compete , this should not be easy and cater to those who just do not want to work for what is needed to succeed .
These people are trying to kill this game like they dummied down the vehicles .
Wonder how that's working with a large percentage of post about vehicles and how they are ruining the game .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.27 13:59:00 -
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Want players like myself to leave then keep listening to pollution like such and you will find out .
Players like my self play for the variety and the customization factor , you got away from that with the vehicles and the side arms that you just introduced , also ... don't think that there are some who aren't aware of what your doing CCP because your game isn't that dam addictive .. hell ****** and crack addict's can kick their prospective drugs so this game can not be that dam demanding .
Your slowly killing this game by listening to the poison of the community .
There are a mass of game's that have the same concept but yet people come and play dust because it's not those other games but it is slowly evolving into those other games so , why play this as well ???
You keep listening CCP and you will have what you ask for , time will tell .
You players who want easy mode go and play that other crap and let those who love to compete play dust .
You jerks are ruining this game for the rest of us .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.27 14:07:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:Many people don't understand tiercide.
You sound like one of those economist who spoke during the 80's about tying the world's economy into one world economy ," No let's not let people decide for themselves when we can do it for them , we know better than they do anyway ... what " they " want ."
Wonder how that's going now for those who had jobs and now don't because the company that they worked for took the plant that provided for their town or city and placed it somewhere else so they can turn a larger profit and flood the economy with crappy , cheep goods for less pay and more labor .
That's how Dust will be with tiericide .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.27 14:09:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Want players like myself to leave then keep listening to pollution like such and you will find out .
Players like my self play for the variety and the customization factor , you got away from that with the vehicles and the side arms that you just introduced , also ... don't think that there are some who aren't aware of what your doing CCP because your game isn't that dam addictive .. hell ****** and crack addict's can kick their prospective drugs so this game can not be that dam demanding .
Your slowly killing this game by listening to the poison of the community .
There are a mass of game's that have the same concept but yet people come and play dust because it's not those other games but it is slowly evolving into those other games so , why play this as well ???
You keep listening CCP and you will have what you ask for , time will tell .
You players who want easy mode go and play that other crap and let those who love to compete play dust .
You jerks are ruining this game for the rest of us . F'kin A, bubba. You are a merc's merc. o7 Thank you .
I try .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.28 08:03:00 -
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Omega Black Zero wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Yan Darn wrote:Many people don't understand tiercide.
You sound like one of those economist who spoke during the 80's about tying the world's economy into one world economy ," No let's not let people decide for themselves when we can do it for them , we know better than they do anyway ... what " they " want ." Wonder how that's going now for those who had jobs and now don't because the company that they worked for took the plant that provided for their town or city and placed it somewhere else so they can turn a larger profit and flood the economy with crappy , cheep goods for less pay and more labor . That's how Dust will be with tiericide . You should actually get informed about NAFTA and how it affected not just the US economy but affected the economies south of our border detrimentally. People wonder where illegal immigrants come from, the answer was NAFTA. Free trade and an unregulated economy isn't good either, there has to be some regulation, or you end up like the Caldari.
If you look at what I wrote it has anti-free trade comments in it seeing as how that is what led to most of the problems in what is going on .
I have relatives who were and are deeply effected by the changes in American and beyond so I'm well informed when people tell me the trouble and hardships that they have to go threw as a result .
I have personal experience , I don't just make broad stroked comments .
I'm against free-trade and NAFTA , was then and even more so now .
It's not all about America but it is the country that was effected the most , corporations have taken over the justice and internal government system , changed laws to favor their advancement and destroyed whole cities .... have you ever been to Detroit Michigan ??? This nation was the manufacturing hub and global producers , they went from the top to the near bottom of producing but have now become the global consumers but have no base to maintain consumption because they produce nothing but garbage and the large majority of the populace goes jobless and children go malnourished and taken from lack of a stable home life .
It's not about all America but being the ones who use to make to becoming the ones who take is hampering the progress of the planet . It's unsustainable .
You can't deny that during the 70's , 80's and before .. that made in America used to mean something , hell you wouldn't have the video games that you play now if it's wasn't for America .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.28 08:16:00 -
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On a side note ... tiericide can not help the new player experience and I just get tired of players using fear and propaganda to drive the direction of the game .
NPE suffers because of the poor set up that currently is in the Academy and the lack of a true matchmaking system .
It's not the prototype gear , it's the lack of knowledge and experience that those who begin to play have and the fact that this game changes direction more than someone driving in a downtown of a major city for the first time .
Teach newer players what's important in the game , how to invest their SP's wisely , strategy and how to create a functional load out .
There are so many real reasons of and in why this game suffer and incorporation of tiericide has nothing to do with helping the new player experience , it only truly help those who play in EVE and don't like the flexibility that Dust has and the fact that it's part of the EVE universe , I.E. : the discussion of SP refunds even show that because most who are the most vocal play EVE and that's the first thing that they always bring up in their rebuttal .
I really believe that a lot of players who play in EVE and Dust , resent the fact that Dust is not totally like EVE and there's a greater reign of flexibility in Dust .
The game's should be similar but not the same .
Dust should have some traits but not be EVE in a since .
Two totally different games .
Similar but not the same , thank GOD .
You want EVE then go and play it and stop trying to make Dust , EVE .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:48:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Tiericide = Remove power creep from game = How can it be bad??
You are just a bunch of protostomping crybabies. The only proto that I own are mods , weapons and vehicle mods also large turrets .
I don't own a single suit but you better believe that I'm trying to get some .
I just can't understand how players can play a game and hate the fact that you are rewarded for the effort and work that you place in the game , which gives one greater flex-ability and that same is hated by the same players .
Do you not wear prototype in PC ??? How can you complain then ??? PC games are suppose to be the best against the best and those who play in pubs , basically fight to earn the right , also practice and obtain ISK's and SP's and the attention of other corporations to eventually play in PC matches .
Never played in a PC , would love to but I just know that personally I'm not ready yet . Don't own a prototype suit but believe me when I get some I will wear them in a pub because I'm going to try them out , that's just common sense ... stupid to try and use it in FW and I just don't play FW anyway .
Stop trying to hurt those who don't comply with your beliefs on how this game is suppose to be played . Roles get too much attention then the community asks for those same roles to become less of a factor , weapons get a lot of attention and the community does the same and the common factor is , not addressing the problem and changing that which gave that item a noticeable edge over the others that made that weapon or role OP . That way your not changing the game so much so that it kills the SP's and effort placed in that area by players and also stops the trend of buffs and nerfs .
Coming to an agreement about what makes an item OP , stating facts , finding a middle ground to come to a solution and not mass propagating to get something done that does more harm than good .
It's not the proto stomping that's killing the game ... it's the fact that in pubs , one can start a match with members of the same squad and play a bunch of random players and that squad is familiar with each other but the random players know nothing of each other unless they have the drive to work together and few do .
It's the fact that one can q-cink games at a certain time and play with buddies in pubs and slaughter random players at a whim .
In a public match that should not be the case , now in factional yes but in pubs no .
Factional is closer to PC's so that should be a given .
Pubs are a bigger problem and should host games with only random players on both teams . You should not play a game with four to five players from the same corp in the same public match but now that is the case on a regular .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:58:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:[quote=Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui]On a side note ... tiericide can not help the new player experience and I just get tired of players using fear and propaganda to drive the direction of the game , they do it with the process of nerfs and buffs and now they just want to flat out ruin the game .
NPE suffers because of the poor set up that currently is in the Academy and the lack of a true matchmaking system .
It's not the prototype gear , it's the lack of knowledge and experience that those who begin to play have and the fact that this game changes direction more than someone driving in a downtown of a major city for the first time .
Teach newer players what's important in the game , how to invest their SP's wisely , strategy and how to create a functional load out . Figure out a better and true matchmaking system . You do not make any actual explanation of why tiercide would not improve NPE. What you do mention is other issues surrounding NPE. And while you are not necessarily wrong regarding these other NPE issues, you have not supported the idea of tiercide not improving NPE.
And yes, I am using fear and propaganda to ruin this game. I even have the power to buff and nerf your imaginary toys at my discretion. This is made possible by anal probes secretly inserted into CCP's employees. Soil yourselves at the very sight of this troll propaganda which is 100% true!
Quote:So, two things I take issue with. The first is the baseless statement that EVE players are demanding respecs. You have provided no evidence or reasoning to support such a wild accusation. Second, the customization in EVE online is superior to the level of flexibility allowed in Dust514. EVE has been around substantially longer than Dust514 and as a result has more features and toys to play with. To claim that EVE players don't like the flexibility in Dust514 is a tad odd. If anything, EVE players would be upset about the lack of options and customization available in Dust514. PS: Your tinfoil hat does not protect you from my mind control towers in your neighborhood. Nice try though. Can you tell me where I say that EVE players were asking for a refund ???? If you look and see I say that they are the biggest opponents of a refund . I'm glad that you can admit that you yourself and others like you are trying to ruin and kill this game and boastfully pound your chest about it . As for correcting me like the player says in a few pieces away , that's also something that's debatable . I'm not going to waste my time ,all I know that whatever happens will happen .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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