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jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1274	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:19:00 - [31] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Yes, please nerf the only two things keeping blaster tanks from being invincible. Sounds like a greeaaat idea. Balance that then Atm rails are unbalance at cqc Missiles have too much alpha I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 733	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:23:00 - [32] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Im saying nerf direct dps and reduce reload times Nerf railgun and missile damage modifiers and make both of them reload like shotguns and we have a deal. TDBS My * points to her interface{} if you know what I mean
MINA Longstrike 563	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:23:00 - [33] - Quote wripple wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: wripple wrote: Somebody just needs to learn how to fly. ADSs are the kings of hit and run vehicles, if you're flying too lethargically (a common side effect of relying on hardeners) then just stick an M-CRU on and stay at the height ceiling. You're flying an airborne medium vehicle, not a tank, if you're still dying to rails after their nerf as much as you make it sound like then you're not adapting like a good pilot should. A hardened vehicle with above 2k hp shoukd not be instakilled I used an incubus ao yea Also I have this gun that instakills you anywhere on the map if you stop sprinting to shoot -1,800 Base Damage for a Particle canon +58% damage for dual damage mods (pretty common for an experience railer) +10% damage bonus to armor +30% damage if shot in the thrusters (easy on an Incubus) -25% damage from hardeners I come up with roughly 3,100 damage per shot, which sounds about right seeing as they have to get within 300 meters of you and only get to aim up at 40 degrees. Incubuses are designed to soak up forge and swarm damage and keep chugging along, while Pythons are designed to be glass canons with short engagement windows. Personally I've never had the patience to run slow RoF Incubuses, but I can tell you that if you're running less armor than I am shield then you're running a build similar to the Gorgons I 1-clip with my Python's XT-1s. 63.9% for two 30% dmg mods. Soooo, 1800 * 1.639 * [1.10 * .75 = .825] * 1.30 = 3164.0895 dmg / shot So, two shots with double mods. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
wripple TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 177	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:25:00 - [34] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Yes, please nerf the only two things keeping blaster tanks from being invincible. Sounds like a greeaaat idea. Balance that then Atm rails are unbalance at cqc Missiles have too much alpha Putting a railgun on a tank should reduce it's speed and torque by 2/3 and should not be allowed to discharge in the redline if less than 7 members of your team are behind the line. Bam, balance.
wripple TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 177	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:35:00 - [35] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: wripple wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: wripple wrote: Somebody just needs to learn how to fly. ADSs are the kings of hit and run vehicles, if you're flying too lethargically (a common side effect of relying on hardeners) then just stick an M-CRU on and stay at the height ceiling. You're flying an airborne medium vehicle, not a tank, if you're still dying to rails after their nerf as much as you make it sound like then you're not adapting like a good pilot should. A hardened vehicle with above 2k hp shoukd not be instakilled I used an incubus ao yea Also I have this gun that instakills you anywhere on the map if you stop sprinting to shoot -1,800 Base Damage for a Particle canon +58% damage for dual damage mods (pretty common for an experience railer) +10% damage bonus to armor +30% damage if shot in the thrusters (easy on an Incubus) -25% damage from hardeners I come up with roughly 3,100 damage per shot, which sounds about right seeing as they have to get within 300 meters of you and only get to aim up at 40 degrees. Incubuses are designed to soak up forge and swarm damage and keep chugging along, while Pythons are designed to be glass canons with short engagement windows. Personally I've never had the patience to run slow RoF Incubuses, but I can tell you that if you're running less armor than I am shield then you're running a build similar to the Gorgons I 1-clip with my Python's XT-1s. 63.9% for two 30% dmg mods. Soooo, 1800 * 1.639 * [1.10 * .75 = .825] * 1.30 = 3164.0895 dmg / shot So, two shots with double mods -450 base damage +30% armor damage +30% modded damage +10% lv.5 ADS skill bonus damage x 8 shots in the clip / 4.8 seconds to dump it = 1,400 DPS = dead tank in roughly 5-8 seconds, depending on if I have to reload. I usually receive more hate mail from rail tanks than I send to them, you just have to know how to counter them.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 735	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:17:00 - [36] - Quote wripple wrote: Putting a railgun on a tank should reduce it's speed and torque by 2/3 and should not be allowed to discharge in the redline if less than 7 members of your team are behind the line. Bam, balance. I can agree that it's **** however I think you're missing something. You shouldn't prevent firing under any circumstances, however certain times it shouldn't be rewarded. I've been advocating for 0 passive SP, no kills and no WP while in the redline. Solves every problem and quite honestly, if you're in the redline for any reason you don't deserve *. TDBS My points to her interface{} if you know what I mean
MINA Longstrike 563	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:22:00 - [37] - Quote wripple wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: wripple wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: wripple wrote: Somebody just needs to learn how to fly. ADSs are the kings of hit and run vehicles, if you're flying too lethargically (a common side effect of relying on hardeners) then just stick an M-CRU on and stay at the height ceiling. You're flying an airborne medium vehicle, not a tank, if you're still dying to rails after their nerf as much as you make it sound like then you're not adapting like a good pilot should. A hardened vehicle with above 2k hp shoukd not be instakilled I used an incubus ao yea Also I have this gun that instakills you anywhere on the map if you stop sprinting to shoot -1,800 Base Damage for a Particle canon +58% damage for dual damage mods (pretty common for an experience railer) +10% damage bonus to armor +30% damage if shot in the thrusters (easy on an Incubus) -25% damage from hardeners I come up with roughly 3,100 damage per shot, which sounds about right seeing as they have to get within 300 meters of you and only get to aim up at 40 degrees. Incubuses are designed to soak up forge and swarm damage and keep chugging along, while Pythons are designed to be glass canons with short engagement windows. Personally I've never had the patience to run slow RoF Incubuses, but I can tell you that if you're running less armor than I am shield then you're running a build similar to the Gorgons I 1-clip with my Python's XT-1s. 63.9% for two 30% dmg mods. Soooo, 1800 * 1.639 * [1.10 * .75 = .825] * 1.30 = 3164.0895 dmg / shot So, two shots with double mods -450 base damage +30% armor damage +30% modded damage +10% lv.5 ADS skill bonus damage x 8 shots in the clip / 4.8 seconds to dump it = 1,400 DPS = dead tank in roughly 5-8 seconds, depending on if I have to reload. I usually receive more hate mail from rail tanks than I send to them, you just have to know how to counter them. Explosive damage is only +20% to armor, and -20% to shields. not 30%. It can work, I've seen some tanks struggle against dropships, which is fine. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 326	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:22:00 - [38] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: EternalRMG wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Nerf rails Decrease reoload speed of missile turrets, heavily nerf dps those are way to ***** overpowered killing my hardened incubus in 0.50 seconds. Decrease reload speed as in reduce time it takes to reload Lolol Learn2fly And get a more decent fit and move a little when theyvm hit you because you know avoiding hits helps if you dont want to die Lol noob I got killed hardned faster than anyone could react Thats beyond overpowered I have a 2k hp splash weapon, 2 minute reload time, 40m splash, not fair right? Oh and this happened all at once, there was no way anyone could survive theres this thing called MISSILES ARE EFFECTIVE AGAINST ARMOUR REGARDLESS Elite Gallenten Soldier**
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 326	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:26:00 - [39] - Quote just to spite the OP. if i ever see him I WILL drop my xt-missile gunnlogi and soley gun at him. if he thinks missiles are op so be it. i will kill him with it. large missiles are the most balanced tank turret. the smalls are well. bullshit with thier splash range. but thier just lol. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3477	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:37:00 - [40] - Quote lol got shot down by missiles and now asking for a nerf It reminds me of judge getting killed by rails and wanting them removed 1/10 troll post

MINA Longstrike 563	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:51:00 - [41] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lol got shot down by missiles and now asking for a nerf It reminds me of judge getting killed by rails and wanting them removed 1/10 troll post Rails are overpowered still. The range wasn't as big of a problem as the damage Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2966	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:59:00 - [42] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Explosive damage is only +20% to armor, and -20% to shields. not 30%. It can work, I've seen some tanks struggle against dropships, which is fine. While you would be right if CCP were competent, they're not so you're wrong. Missiles still have the old damage profile of 135/70. (Rails also deal blaster damage, for the record. CCP apparently forgot about vehicles when they changed profiles. I don't mind though, they've been forgetting about vehicles for a year now, except for that rebalance which was so poorly balanced as to not even count) ak.0 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2906	Posted - 2014.04.26 11:02:00 - [43] - Quote Well large missiles are the best weapon system to take down armor tanks. They just vanish when you use a damage mod. However the reload time is painfully long and if you miss you are most likely screwed. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1137	Posted - 2014.04.26 11:12:00 - [44] - Quote Stop trolling Jeremy, we all know missiles are fine
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2066	Posted - 2014.04.26 12:52:00 - [45] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: wait? someone wants to nerf missiles. if you get killed by missiles its your fault. the re-loading speed on them is literally a killer. No they are way to op in dps right now, I got killed in less than half a second HARDENED Reduce dps Decrease the time it takes to reload if even 2 or 3 missiles miss they wont kill you. tacking and keeping aim with missile launchers is a pain. if i shoot you down with missiles you deserve to die. i have to make my self a sitting duck to make kills. If you miss, you're garbage. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2066	Posted - 2014.04.26 12:57:00 - [46] - Quote missiles needs it's name changed to rockets, nerfed damage wise, reload shortened, and splash made bigger. maybe (probably) a higher tracking as well. Then missiles that are semi auto (with a slower ROF than the rockets), with a higher missile speed and damage, with also passive tracking needs to be added. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 131	Posted - 2014.04.26 13:15:00 - [47] - Quote How about we fix the hit detection on these turrets before we talk about nerfing or buffing. If you got killed by a missile tank it was because of your bad judgement. I'm dead set on the idea that missile tanks are by a wide margin the weakest tanks in the game. Simply because half of the time they fire incorrectly andmissle tanks are better at being a sentry type vehicle that aids other tanks in battle.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3478	Posted - 2014.04.26 13:16:00 - [48] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lol got shot down by missiles and now asking for a nerf It reminds me of judge getting killed by rails and wanting them removed 1/10 troll post Rails are overpowered still. The range wasn't as big of a problem as the damage The range was for some ppl Now more DS are about because the range got reduced
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1651	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:32:00 - [49] - Quote Atiim wrote: 80GJ Blasters and Railguns do need adjustments, but the Large missiles are just fine. For the range they have to be in to actually do damage to you, it deserves the King of CQC status. If anything, I'd say it needs a buff by fixing the fall-off damage and changing reload mechanics to work like SGs. For once I'm in agreement @the OP: dude, don't cry that your Incubus got shot down by a missile launcher. For one, their burst damage is only good at CQC (I'd say less than 50 meters) so you should have been well aware of that tank and know the potential risk it poses. Also, have you not any idea how good of an aim you must have to hit and down moving dropship at anything beyond 100 meters? You have to be able to predict flight path, compensate for missile velocity, then adjust your aim as soon as the pilot reacts to the first few missiles (because at such range you're only shooting two or three missiles per second). Missiles are by far the most balanced large turret, except that it's UP due to the OP-ness of railguns and blasters performing better than they should. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1651	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:35:00 - [50] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: wait? someone wants to nerf missiles. if you get killed by missiles its your fault. the re-loading speed on them is literally a killer. No they are way to op in dps right now, I got killed in less than half a second HARDENED Reduce dps Decrease the time it takes to reload if even 2 or 3 missiles miss they wont kill you. tacking and keeping aim with missile launchers is a pain. if i shoot you down with missiles you deserve to die. i have to make my self a sitting duck to make kills. If you miss, you're garbage. I'd like to see you fire in full auto at a moving vehicle >150 meters away. I'm sure more than half of your missiles will miss "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2044	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:56:00 - [51] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Nerf rails Decrease reoload speed of missile turrets, heavily nerf dps those are way to ******* overpowered killing my hardened incubus in 0.50 seconds. Decrease reload speed as in reduce time it takes to reload Tldr I just want to not get instakilled by those op things while hardened Reduce rof by half making them not as spammable and more skillful weapons Reduce the time it takes to reload missile turrets. Those changes would help tank vs tank fights without being so broken LOL you should be sending a "bravo" to someone destroying your derpship with missiles. It's great fun when you accomplish something as difficult as that. Don't run solo Have someone looking out for you all the time. You're using an ADS, go after vehicles first, infantry later. And yeah, you really do sound like Judge here. "He destroyed me, nerf what he's using!" I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2044	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:57:00 - [52] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: wait? someone wants to nerf missiles. if you get killed by missiles its your fault. the re-loading speed on them is literally a killer. No they are way to op in dps right now, I got killed in less than half a second HARDENED Reduce dps Decrease the time it takes to reload if even 2 or 3 missiles miss they wont kill you. tacking and keeping aim with missile launchers is a pain. if i shoot you down with missiles you deserve to die. i have to make my self a sitting duck to make kills. If you miss, you're garbage. I'd like to see you fire in full auto at a moving vehicle >150 meters away. I'm sure more than half of your missiles will miss 2 missiles... 2 missiles... 2 missiles... 2 missiles... What full auto? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1653	Posted - 2014.04.26 15:03:00 - [53] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Harpyja wrote: I'd like to see you fire in full auto at a moving vehicle >150 meters away. I'm sure more than half of your missiles will miss 2 missiles... 2 missiles... 2 missiles... 2 missiles... What full auto? Yeah that STILL needs fixing. I feel like I'm gonna get some finger nerve damage if I continue to spam R1 that fast. Anyways, substitute "full auto" with "R1 spam" and the results would still be the same. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Hecarim Van Hohen 1219	Posted - 2014.04.26 15:18:00 - [54] - Quote /Thread "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro t¢«
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1279	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:37:00 - [55] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Nerf rails Decrease reoload speed of missile turrets, heavily nerf dps those are way to ******* overpowered killing my hardened incubus in 0.50 seconds. Decrease reload speed as in reduce time it takes to reload Tldr I just want to not get instakilled by those op things while hardened Reduce rof by half making them not as spammable and more skillful weapons Reduce the time it takes to reload missile turrets. Those changes would help tank vs tank fights without being so broken LOL you should be sending a "bravo" to someone destroying your derpship with missiles. It's great fun when you accomplish something as difficult as that. Don't run solo Have someone looking out for you all the time. You're using an ADS, go after vehicles first, infantry later. And yeah, you really do sound like Judge here. "He destroyed me, nerf what he's using!" Its needs nerfing Nothing should kill that fast Reduce rof reduce reload time Balanced I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1279	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:43:00 - [56] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lol got shot down by missiles and now asking for a nerf It reminds me of judge getting killed by rails and wanting them removed 1/10 troll post Its called getting killed in less than half a second by tnose op things The problem is its rof I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2075	Posted - 2014.04.26 19:07:00 - [57] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: wait? someone wants to nerf missiles. if you get killed by missiles its your fault. the re-loading speed on them is literally a killer. No they are way to op in dps right now, I got killed in less than half a second HARDENED Reduce dps Decrease the time it takes to reload if even 2 or 3 missiles miss they wont kill you. tacking and keeping aim with missile launchers is a pain. if i shoot you down with missiles you deserve to die. i have to make my self a sitting duck to make kills. If you miss, you're garbage. I'd like to see you fire in full auto at a moving vehicle >150 meters away. I'm sure more than half of your missiles will miss You're trying to use missiles designed like rockets at long range. No **** you're going to miss. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1000	Posted - 2014.04.26 19:49:00 - [58] - Quote Right after large blasters get nerfed. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 744	Posted - 2014.04.26 20:08:00 - [59] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Balance that then Oh god this is going to be fun. jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Atm rails are unbalance at cqc If you can fit a blaster tank well for the purpose of anything but mowing down infantry it's easy to win with a blaster. You're just bad. jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Missiles have too much alpha This is literally the most ****** ** I've ever seen you post on the forums. Missiles are supposed to be high alpha. Just because someone popped your ****** blaster tank while you too busy mowing down some militia suit while he was crossing the street doesn't justify change. Be more aware of your surroundings. TDBS My * points to her interface{} if you know what I mean
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1279	Posted - 2014.04.26 20:11:00 - [60] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Balance that then Oh god this is going to be fun. jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Atm rails are unbalance at cqc If you can fit a blaster tank well for the purpose of anything but mowing down infantry it's easy to win with a blaster. You're just bad. jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Missiles have too much alpha This is literally the most ****** ** I've ever seen you post on the forums. Missiles are supposed to be high alpha. Just because someone popped your ****** blaster tank while you too busy mowing down some militia suit while he was crossing the street doesn't justify change. Be more aware of your surroundings. This gun I have has 900 rpm and 200 damage with 30 round clip Its supposed to never have anyone but me win See, stupid right? And noob gtfo Blaster tank lol I dont use tanks I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears



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