80GJ Blasters and Railguns do need adjustments, but the Large missiles are just fine.

For the range they have to be in to actually do damage to you, it deserves the King of CQC status. If anything, I'd say it needs a buff by fixing the fall-off damage and changing reload mechanics to work like SGs.

What range were you flying at?

wait? someone wants to nerf missiles.

if you get killed by missiles its your fault. the re-loading speed on them is literally a killer.

missiles: +30% vs armour
damage mod: 60% vs armour

missiles:-30% vs shields
damage mod: normal damge vs sheilds.

against hardned vehicle
5% increased damage
with modifer 35% increased damge.

base missile damge at std. 415 x 12.

do msisiles need a nerf?

if even 2 or 3 missiles miss they wont kill you.

tacking and keeping aim with missile launchers is a pain.

if i shoot you down with missiles you deserve to die. i have to make my self a sitting duck to make kills.

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Yes big time
But buff reload speed
Reduce rof by half or so or more
Decrease time it takes to reload by alot
Nerf damage mods
No more op missiles, no underpowered either

if missiles were easy mode and didnt require levle 5 we'd all be useing them.

kiling armour vehicles is good. but killing shield vehicles and infatry is much more difficult.

Lolol
Learn2fly
And get a more decent fit and move a little when theyvm hit you because you know avoiding hits helps if you dont want to die

I think you've proven you're an idiot. I have heard only one person ever complain that large missiles are OP, and he was ripped a new ******* too.

L2pilot. 70M? That's pretty much point blank for tank combat.

I don't say this often, but get gud n00b.

Then maybe you shouldn't be moving so slowly. Sounds like you were just taught a lesson. If you were flying your DS like in an intelligent way the missiles never would have touched you.

Somebody just needs to learn how to fly. ADSs are the kings of hit and run vehicles, if you're flying too lethargically (a common side effect of relying on hardeners) then just stick an M-CRU on and stay at the height ceiling.
You're flying an airborne medium vehicle, not a tank, if you're still dying to rails after their nerf as much as you make it sound like then you're not adapting like a good pilot should.

missiles: +30% vs armour
damage mod: 60% vs armour

missiles:-30% vs shields
damage mod: normal damge vs sheilds.

against hardned vehicle
5% increased damage
with modifer 35% increased damge.

base missile damge at std. 415 x 12.

do msisiles need a nerf?

Yes, please nerf the only two things keeping blaster tanks from being invincible. Sounds like a greeaaat idea.

LOL you should be sending a "bravo" to someone destroying your derpship with missiles. It's great fun when you accomplish something as difficult as that.

Don't run solo

Have someone looking out for you all the time.

You're using an ADS, go after vehicles first, infantry later.

And yeah, you really do sound like Judge here. "He destroyed me, nerf what he's using!"

lol got shot down by missiles and now asking for a nerf

It reminds me of judge getting killed by rails and wanting them removed

1/10 troll post

Oh god this is going to be fun.

If you can fit a blaster tank well for the purpose of anything but mowing down infantry it's easy to win with a blaster. You're just bad.

This is literally the most ******** **** I've ever seen you post on the forums. Missiles are supposed to be high alpha. Just because someone popped your ****** blaster tank while you too busy mowing down some militia suit while he was crossing the street doesn't justify change.

Be more aware of your surroundings.

Perhaps it's because you've yet to go into any detail as to why they are broken?

nice solid no..\

all the QQ striped the rail turret of half its range so F#@K off with the call for any kind of nerf on rails. Why not have the penalty we want for ADS.. no kind or armor or shield upgrade allowed.. cause if I have to be in tactically **** poor location just so I can get the right angle to fire up at you... and you want to **** around with my damage??


**does a double picard epic face palm**

I need to drink all that stupid away.

YOUR AN IDIOT PLEASE GO AWAY

ohh look another ADS pilot who brags about their kill couint on my guys as they float around impervious to most AV.

I say hell no.. make the ADS even harder to fly and cost a tonne more in isk. crutch eh?... ohh look shields down.. oops hit afterburner straight up with some side lateral and lookie the crutched escaped with ease again.

where anyone in a tank we hit the overdrive and we get a 25% boost... ohhh wow thanks that is so in balanced with the ADS afterburner.


note: yes that was meant to be sarcastic.. get over it

tanks are cheap, slow and easy to kill.. so should remain cheap to buy
ADS are pricey, fast, nimble, can loiter above all AV max range for the whole match and just call target, is effective for a lot more then a tank is meant to do, can catch and kill any infantry they can see, 3-4 shot lavs even armored ones, can with good fire support on its turrets shred tanks with ease.. so yes that ADS should cost more and be harder to use because it can dictate the match the moment its called in on a RDV.


and any honest player will admit that yes ADS can and do win you matches.
if you got them and can deny the enemy theirs.. 99 out of 100 matches you will win with ease

I've never used large missiles myself, but I can tell by the sound of this thread that you're one of those newbs who got killed by one of us real ADS pilots then skilled halfway into them thinking they were easy to use.
Missiles are fine, your fitting and piloting is what needs modification.

Jerrmy, they really aren't op or a crutch. I'm defending my missile tank because it is balanced. Its not effective against infantry, it cannot reliably kill shield tanks (miss a few missiles and your f*****) the reload time is very long, the range is short and its tracking is decent.
The advantage you get for these draw backs is excellent damage vs armor and good burst damage.

Honestly if you can't dodge missiles needing the ROF wouldn't help you.
If you can't find and engage or get to a position above its angle of elevation then reducing the reload time won't help you. The missile tank will kill you the same.

I love shooting down armor dropships and incubi with my missile tank, I wait for them to start loitering and broadside them with missiles. If they had a gunner they would easily be able to see me, instead they want to gunship around, their fault.

This thread's back? Ugh.


Ok, so they had very good aim to predict your flight path (if you weren't hovering that is) to shoot at least seven or eight missiles and make them all hit.

And/or

You suck at flying. Your fault you got that close to a missile tank. Seriously, our effective range is within 100 meters, because the recoil makes it impossible to rapid fire missiles and stay on target.

Thats always been a problem and other ADSer have dealt with it.

So you really just wanted to whine about something and the poor missile tanker that wrecked your ADS in less than a second with his absurdly expensive and deeply-skilled-into fit took the brunt of it.

Got it.

Got it.

Again with the large missiles are OP? Lol.

Large missiles are completely lol right now. If you get killed by them you must have rolled a blaster tank straight up to a missile tank or hovered too low too long, way too long, in a DS.

As I can see that you're determined to whine and QQ regardless of the logical arguments against nerfing rails and large missiles, I'm going to unsubscribe to this thread and be more productive with my time.

Best of luck to you.

just shut up. Yesterday it was rdvs and dropship ramming. You suck as a pilot, stop posting.

just shut up. Yesterday it was rdvs and dropship ramming. You suck as a pilot, stop posting.

What the devil is going on here?

Then quit, because there will always be something that pisses you off. "WAAAH I DIED IN MY DROPSHIP, NERF EVERYTHING THAT CAN KILL IT" "WAAAH COMBAT RIFLES KILL ME, NERF THEM CCP!!! NOW" "WAAAAH THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TO DO, MAKE MORE THINGS FOR ME TO DO *RIGHT THIS SECOND CCP*".

That's what your complaining amounts to until you put it in well spoken constructive manners, or overall dissections like judge, moody or ghazbaran(sometimes?) does. With like pie charts and stuff.

Wow, I can't say p i s s? Really? That's funny.

ADS Pilot, the primadonna of Dust. Next you're gonna want forge guns to shoot floppy dildos right?

Rails got nerfed.....

If you die by a Missile then you deserved to die.....

There's no evading when you are hovering. I guarantee you, you will *never* die to a missile tank if you are actually moving at a decent pace.

"I played poorly, so I demand compensation!"

Why would ads need to be cheaper? They are the only specialize vehicle out there right now (andspecialized items should cost more than basic regardless of the way drop suits are priced) and they are stupidly hard to take down when flown even moderately well. Good pilots frequently dominate matches to the point of shutting down all but the most well protected of infantry movements. If anything all Vehicles need to become more expensive, the ADS especially.

550,000 ISK for a glass cannon that has more bugs than any other vehicle and explodes instanty to the first obstacle you inevitably touch in maps that lag horridly is a bit uncalled for, but the price is appropriate of the damage they cause.
CCP just needs to fix all of the issues around collision, lag and rendering before they touch the stats of the ADS.
Anyone who has the balls to fly one will tell you that they are the most challenging vehicles to operate and whiteness the most frustrating of bugs and glitches in the game.

Ugh, really dude?

For one, your TL;DR is longer than the meat of your posting.

Two, I can tell you don't tank. Damage mods bro and slight adjustments to the rails damage.

Lol, thank you for the good read Jerrmy, 7 pages full of QQ from you...

And Jerrmy, just like your Signature, "Tears, Sweet delicious tears :) I've very much enjoyed reading this topic

Missile turrets will never be nerfed, only buffed

200k??


pfft make them 1 mil isk a pop


then everyone will stop using them and we will not get the never ending QQ tears of muffins on the forums

yes...




your tears are delicious..

so please keep crying for us... it only makes me smile more.