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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2029
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:48:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:I feel that Judge's video doesn't accurately portray the situation. This is no fault of Judge's, but of the visual quality of his videos. Those frames he shows do make it hard to see. But notice how much better quality the actual game is than his videos..
Did you change the video your 720p in the youtube settings (it always defauts to a lower quality than that). I record in the EXACT same quality as the game. I have done a pixel count test. Its EXACTLY the same.
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Emo Skellington
The Neutral Zone
34
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:53:00 -
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Hey alena, good to see you on forums, now if only you did this for nzone lol. I completely agree with judge on how the cloak is more of a frontal assault right now then stealth
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Alena Ventrallis
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
1230
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:57:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:I feel that Judge's video doesn't accurately portray the situation. This is no fault of Judge's, but of the visual quality of his videos. Those frames he shows do make it hard to see. But notice how much better quality the actual game is than his videos.. Did you change the video your 720p in the youtube settings (it always defauts to a lower quality than that). I record in the EXACT same quality as the game. I have done a pixel count test. Its EXACTLY the same. And when you increase the screen size , such as going fullscreen even in 720p, the quality lowers. Again, this isn't your fault, it's the video quality. As I said, I've spotted plenty of scouts trying to sneak around me, and I'm in a tank. There are surely plenty I haven't noticed, but this is because I was busy chasing another tank, or in a fight with some AV, or in some way focused elsewhere and not on my surroundings.
That's what you get!! - DA Rick
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2258
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Posted - 2014.04.26 22:15:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Minor Treat wrote: Okay, than you did not understand the test.... that statement you made just proves it. Its not about seeing them on the first test it about if you decloak after your first shot with a weapon. You do not decloak after your first shot with a weapon which was proven in the video. You can have the greatest awareness in the world but you dont decloak after you fire your weapon. (at least not after the first few rounds)
arguing with you is like arguing with a woman....just all over the place. You got it man. I had enough of this. You just don't get it. Michael Arck your a fuc-king Idiot.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Alena Ventrallis
PAND3M0N1UM Top Men.
1233
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Posted - 2014.04.27 00:51:00 -
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Emo Skellington wrote:Hey alena, good to see you on forums, now if only you did this for nzone lol. I completely agree with judge on how the cloak is more of a frontal assault right now then stealth Neutral Zone is in my heart no matter the ticker under my name bro.
That's what you get!! - DA Rick
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
380
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:20:00 -
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Minor Treat, The original bonuses on the scouts that where pulled from the test server. I don't like your attitude so you can do the leg work to find the screenshots.
Caldari Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to firing cloak cost per level. Also there talks from the devs that all but the Sniper Rifle could fire under cloak. The original design allowed you to aim with your gun, I don't remember if they mentioned the ADS working.
The community had a @#$@ fit about it.. And the design was scrapped because the amount of people that assumed the gameplay would be horrible. Honestly, I would of liked to play that version of the game to see what they where testing. If it was for the better we will never know now, yet most people don't hear the decloak sound or can understand the shimmer effect.
So all you cloak haters, the cloak was delivered pre-nerfed. You give this community a inch, they will take a mile and beat your mom and spit in your face... Just saying.
QQ is the most powerful weapon in this game, hands down.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
4061
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:27:00 -
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I'm glad some people with common sense with the ability to think for themselves, answered this thread. Seriously.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Minor Treat
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
245
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Posted - 2014.04.27 01:58:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:Minor Treat, The original bonuses on the scouts that where pulled from the test server. I don't like your attitude so you can do the leg work to find the screenshots.
Caldari Scout Bonus: 5% reduction to firing cloak cost per level. Also there talks from the devs that all but the Sniper Rifle could fire under cloak. The original design allowed you to aim with your gun, I don't remember if they mentioned the ADS working.
The community had a @#$@ fit about it.. And the design was scrapped because the amount of people that assumed the gameplay would be horrible. Honestly, I would of liked to play that version of the game to see what they where testing. If it was for the better we will never know now, yet most people don't hear the decloak sound or can understand the shimmer effect.
So all you cloak haters, the cloak was delivered pre-nerfed. You give this community a inch, they will take a mile and beat your mom and spit in your face... Just saying.
QQ is the most powerful weapon in this game, hands down. Well I am sorry you feel that way about my attitude, I meant no disrespect or to make you feel uncomfortable. But I stand by what I said. If you can't provide source material to back this up than for all I know you could be making it up. Its not meant to be offensive but simply a request for where you got your information.
Also I hope to clear this up with you, that I don't hate on the cloak at all. If anything its a great addition to the game but there are some issue that occur with its functional compared to the notes posted by CCP blog on how it should work.
So again I ask you to post up a link to the information of your sources if your claiming these things.
PS: This kind of attitude you just posted does no one any good. "You give this community a inch, they will take a mile and beat your mom and spit in your face... Just saying. " |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
4066
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Posted - 2014.04.27 02:01:00 -
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He didn't post an attitude. He's describing how badly you guys will nerf and dismantle mechanics within the game. It's analogy. Stop being a softy and go outside. Play some football.
Like this cloak issue that is nothing more than a like generation mechanic. Coming from the same guy who wanted swarms ranges nerfed but gets mad when rail tanks are camping redline, blasting him outta the sky. If the swarm range wasn't nerfed, his headache of tanks on the redline would be minimal because the range of the swarms would have decreased the redline camping.
Why are people searching for things to change in the game that needs no adjustments?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8117
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Posted - 2014.04.27 17:09:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:Just going to point out two things here,
1.) CCP was going to release the cloak with the ability to fire cloaked without decloaking. In my eyes the cloakers should keep a first mover advantage.
2.) The video does not show him being attacked by cloakers, or the shimmer effects from a victums perspective, or a frame by frame breakdown of the damage received to him on a scout decloaking. The video is incompletely, yet even if it did come out in favor of the cloaker (Which I believe it will) see option 1.)
Mosty people don't know, the cloak was designed to be fired cloaked.. To eat up the cloak meter in turn preventing the cloaker the ability to recloak again. Then leaving the cloaker at a disadvange if he is spotted or cannot find cover. We never was given the option to experience this gameplay and if we did most of the forum posters are so one dimensional they wouldn't understand it anyways.
Just saying, On your first point, CCP did originally intend to allow firing the first shot while cloaked. However the community responded as making the cloak OP due to shotgun users. CCP later on, as noted on their dev blogs, withdrew that idea and instead restricted it to having the cortex active at all times in order to maintain cloak. Clearly the cloak-shotgun issue somehow reared its ugly head in this update when it shouldn't have. I have been hearing people say this but I have never seen a post or detailed information by CCP about shooting while cloaked. Can you submit a link to help prove this? I am quite curious to see if this was stated by CCP or if its just rumors.
I can't find the link anymore, but it was posted on the forums that CCP was originally thinking about letting people shoot while cloaked and I was there at the time when I saw it. It wasn't just shotgunners like you see today that had people concerned. Snipers were also a factor as well as other high-alpha weapons like Ishukone Nova Knives. The idea that somehow some invisible force would blap you in one second from a cloaked form really scared a lot of people. Hell, it even scared me and I'm a stealth guy. The dev blog that you linked was the result of the community's reaction to CCP's original idea.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8117
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Posted - 2014.04.27 17:11:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:He didn't post an attitude. He's describing how badly you guys will nerf and dismantle mechanics within the game. It's analogy. Stop being a softy and go outside. Play some football.
Like this cloak issue that is nothing more than a like generation mechanic. Coming from the same guy who wanted swarms ranges nerfed but gets mad when rail tanks are camping redline, blasting him outta the sky. If the swarm range wasn't nerfed, his headache of tanks on the redline would be minimal because the range of the swarms would have decreased the redline camping.
Why are people searching for things to change in the game that needs no adjustments?
Last time I checked, redline rails got nerfed and now they are a thing of the past.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Tek Hound
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
258
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Posted - 2014.04.27 18:50:00 -
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Let's have some fun 1)seen you the whole time 2)it's called cloak for a reason 3)not everybody has the same reaction time 4)bad situational awareness = can't see cloak 5)don't try to make point playing against scrubs then say your playing against scrubs 6)comments like there should be assault cloak and stealth cloak show you have no understanding of what a cloak is 7)every engaged target was preoccupied 8)what was there gear like vs yours ,we're they on organized squads or lone-wolfs 9)laser must be op the way you we're kill them without cloak 10)I just going to stop to much to rip apart
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syzygiet
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2014.04.27 19:04:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Let's have some fun 1)seen you the whole time 2)it's called cloak for a reason 3)not everybody has the same reaction time 4)bad situational awareness = can't see cloak 5)don't try to make point playing against scrubs then say your playing against scrubs 6)comments like there should be assault cloak and stealth cloak show you have no understanding of what a cloak is 7)every engaged target was preoccupied 8)what was there gear like vs yours ,we're they on organized squads or lone-wolfs 9)laser must be op the way you we're kill them without cloak 10)I just going to stop to much to rip apart Ps. L2p
What the hell is this? That list made no sense at all.
I think he is trying to put to the rest the point of contention that you can't shoot when cloaked . This video shows that is clearly not the case you are able to see you can switch weapons without decloaking and then being able to unload ~1 rounds from the SG or 9 bullets from an automatic before being fully decloaked. |
Tek Hound
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
258
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Posted - 2014.04.27 19:13:00 -
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syzygiet wrote:Tek Hound wrote:Let's have some fun 1)seen you the whole time 2)it's called cloak for a reason 3)not everybody has the same reaction time 4)bad situational awareness = can't see cloak 5)don't try to make point playing against scrubs then say your playing against scrubs 6)comments like there should be assault cloak and stealth cloak show you have no understanding of what a cloak is 7)every engaged target was preoccupied 8)what was there gear like vs yours ,we're they on organized squads or lone-wolfs 9)laser must be op the way you we're kill them without cloak 10)I just going to stop to much to rip apart Ps. L2p What the hell is this? That list made no sense at all. I think he is trying to put to the rest the point of contention that you can't shoot when cloaked . This video shows that is clearly not the case you are able to see you can switch weapons without decloaking and then being able to unload ~1 rounds from the SG or 9 bullets from an automatic before being fully decloaked.
1)no the was one point and a know bug 2)he stated you can't see them 3) want to talk about reaction time 4)cloak or no cloak you can easily fire into preoccupied targets(reaction time diff between people/lag) 5)it's a pure biased video (listen to his comments)
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Kane Fyea
2635
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Posted - 2014.04.27 19:20:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:I feel that Judge's video doesn't accurately portray the situation. This is no fault of Judge's, but of the visual quality of his videos. Those frames he shows do make it hard to see. But notice how much better quality the actual game is than his videos.. Did you change the video your 720p in the youtube settings (it always defauts to a lower quality than that). I record in the EXACT same quality as the game. I have done a pixel count test. Its EXACTLY the same. The resolution maybe the same but youtube butchers video quality when you upload. This is not your fault but it is true. |
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