I for one am sick of being insta-died by these combat rifles, doesn't matter what suit it is always the same outcome.... im walking along going to kill a few reds and *blap* dead eather it is a RS-90, BK-42 or a proto variant of these, the gun needs to be toned down...Allot

It just stomps out the AR and will almost out preform the RR and SCR in there optimum range and the DPS output is just ridiculous

The problem is the Damage penality.

Only 5 % damage penality on shield (Almost nothing) but 25% bonus on Armor (A quarter !!) with prof V
25% Damage bonus, i don't know what CPP was thinking at this moment but this is just crazy.

wasn't the combat rifle nerfed by 10% just like everything else?

tbh, I have more problems with shotgun scouts or heavies than silly combat rifles.

I for one am sick of being insta-died by these combat rifles, doesn't matter what suit it is always the same outcome.... im walking along going to kill a few reds and *blap* dead eather it is a RS-90, BK-42 or a proto variant of these, the gun needs to be toned down...Allot

It just stomps out the AR and will almost out preform the RR and SCR in there optimum range and the DPS output is just ridiculous

wasn't the combat rifle nerfed by 10% just like everything else?

tbh, I have more problems with shotgun scouts or heavies than silly combat rifles.

They were nerfed harder than the other rifles. approx 15% on the higher end.



Slow down there buddy.

The ACRs may have a bit too much range but CR vs RR at proper distance and ScR at distance or even closer in with a proper quick spam of fire can compete fine.

You also described a scenario where the enemy got a jump on you which is perfect use of the CR - quick bursts before you know what happened. ScR user would have charged shot you and then quick double to finish you off if necessary.

CR needs a hard delay or a jamming mechanic and ACR probably needs less range or more dispersion but stay away from the hyperbole.

Over 15% actually. It took the biggest dive out of all the rifles

The ACR lost just under 10%(9.7%), the semi-auto CR lost 15%(15.6) the RR across the board also lost 15%(14.5-15.2%). Stop being overdramatic.

not all guns should be engaged equally.

for example if you are facing a shot gun you DO not engage in close range.

like wise you do not engage a combat rifle in medium range.

a rail rifle at medium long

stand in the open against sniper rifle

run at an hmg

hide behind a box against a mass driver

hack with a knife around

chase a scout with re's

shoot a tank with your assault rifle

etc.

combat rifle is a pretty strong gun right now, but it's nothing compared to the guns we've had in the past, it's fine as it is.

also it's an anti armor and everyone and their dog armor tanks, when I shield tank I pretty near always beat combat rifles.

When an Amarr Scout with a standard CR can brazenly solo a 27million. SP Amarr Heavy with 1100 EHP and a completely maxed out basic HMG with 3% Damage Mod at close range, you know something is wrong, especially as strafing as a heavy isnt even an option.

Over 15% actually. It took the biggest dive out of all the rifles

I realize everyone is terrified of CCP destroyig the CR into flaylock land, but utilizing its bug it is an exploit and needs fixed.

When an Amarr Scout with a standard CR can brazenly solo a 27million. SP Amarr Heavy with 1100 EHP and a completely maxed out basic HMG with 3% Damage Mod at close range, you know something is wrong, especially as strafing as a heavy isnt even an option.

The rail rifle was nerf by 15% the Combat rifle was 10%

When an Amarr Scout with a standard CR can brazenly solo a 27million. SP Amarr Heavy with 1100 EHP and a completely maxed out basic HMG with 3% Damage Mod at close range, you know something is wrong, especially as strafing as a heavy isnt even an option.

CR has more DPS than any other rifle by a margin of about 100, it has the best damage profile and it has absurdly low fitting costs.
It also reloads blazing fast, second only to the SCR.

And it's not just effective in medium range, it's THE BEST light rifle anywhere but RR range, which is around 18m above the CR's range.

not all guns should be engaged equally.

for example if you are facing a shot gun you DO not engage in close range.

like wise you do not engage a combat rifle in medium range.

a rail rifle at medium long

stand in the open against sniper rifle

run at an hmg

hide behind a box against a mass driver

hack with a knife around

chase a scout with re's

shoot a tank with your assault rifle

etc.

combat rifle is a pretty strong gun right now, but it's nothing compared to the guns we've had in the past, it's fine as it is.

also it's an anti armor and everyone and their dog armor tanks, when I shield tank I pretty near always beat combat rifles.

I can't mash my ds3 button enough to get close to that DPS. I agree that there should be something to reduce the efficacy of turbo, and the -5% to shields makes more sense at 10.

Over 15% actually. It took the biggest dive out of all the rifles

And when a bpo scout with a militia shotgun and lv1 cloak kills him what is your answer to that?
- If the Amarr scout kept moving and the heavy isnt turning and engaging quickly enough thats his fault. Ammar have built in resistance (15% at Lv5) to the CR

All rifles (maybe not AR too well) can deal with Heavies if they keep their range, if they stray a few metres too close they will be fish food in an instant.

I do think the RR should get back a little pop but be even harder to hipfire aim, AR should get damage but sharper fall off and obviously the HMG and SMG should have gotten a nerf as well.
- There is always 2.0

I for one am sick of being insta-died by these combat rifles, doesn't matter what suit it is always the same outcome.... im walking along going to kill a few reds and *blap* dead eather it is a RS-90, BK-42 or a proto variant of these, the gun needs to be toned down...Allot

It just stomps out the AR and will almost out preform the RR and SCR in there optimum range and the DPS output is just ridiculous

Edit: let me elaborate a bit more, in a face to face conflict where the two party's engage each other in there optimum range the rail rifle user (ar or anything else) will be dead before they can get 4 shots off, The fact that the Combat rifle is easily abused by turbo controls is BS, give it an overheat or a 75% chance to jam (it is a Min weapon after all)

If the idiots who develop COD can write a bit of code that literately says :- If button "R1" trigger more then: X amount of times in 1 minutes than Lock.end-

you use a turbo your gun jams up and forces you to reload it

Combat rifle can kill heavies before they can react
Even cal heavies