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SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:52:00 - [1] - Quote I'm gone for a week, maybe 2, I don't remember I was too high, days in my memory seem to be merging together, happy belated 4/20 btw, which is more like a week holiday for south texas, lol, any who, I'm not gone long and things have gotten out of hand PR wise for DNS. Where is this confusion coming from?? Is it AE's statement made a month ago "UNOFFICIALLY" by the largest troll this game has seen since Regynum/Mr.Zitro in closed beta? Is it DNSBlack statement in Soyara's link to a Podcast? Are certain DNSers trolling people too much? Who? Are people just upset about game mechanics and are taking it out on us? Is it just beef like OH vs Cubs, or AE vs everyone else? ?? lol I'm, just sorta at a loss. The DNSers I know and play with are always helping and giving advice and are great people to be around - yet the picture painted on the forums makes it seem like we just want your wallet, your wife, and maybe a kid or two for sacrifices. If you want to get to know more about DNS then I implore you - come visit us at DNS Dusters. We are more then just a vet great looking to conquer or 'win' this game. We are a community, helping each other and those we enjoy being with. And like any community, we also enjoy messing with those we don't like. But the Tl;dr to this is really: Why all the hate? :'( Need to break some down walls between DNS and the community - we're all Dusters in the end.
Ridire Greine 245	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:01:00 - [2] - Quote And just today, GDers said our opinion doesn't mean anything anymore. How will I live with myself knowing that? "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2944	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:20:00 - [3] - Quote Texas high five? Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
bunnywink 651	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:41:00 - [4] - Quote You guys need to stop getting banned. Hahah. MAYBE THAT IS THE ANSWER. =( GåÇßå¦GåÇ )= ...Meow. G£+ We might be hollow, but we're brave.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2094	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:49:00 - [5] - Quote SoTa, listen to Podside 196, the one I linked. You will lose all faith in your cause. You will go soul-seeking. Your life will be forever changed. ... Or you'll just find it hilarious. It's long, but it's worth a listen. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2692	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:52:00 - [6] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: SoTa, listen to Podside 196, the one I linked. You will lose all faith in your cause. You will go soul-seeking. Your life will be forever changed. ... Or you'll just find it hilarious. It's long, but it's worth a listen. Soraya, SoTa's cause is HvLP, not DNS, but if it is DNS, I say this to SoTa, you should listen to the podcast. How to Leave PC
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4988	Posted - 2014.04.22 21:02:00 - [7] - Quote Sota's on dat PR campaign. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2156	Posted - 2014.04.22 21:17:00 - [8] - Quote It's been really lame.. There's been like no anime talk. And I finally started watching to love ru.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Slim Winning Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 52	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:40:00 - [9] - Quote What's wrong with the world, mama! People livin' like they ain't got no mamas I think the whole world addicted to the drama Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United Caps and Mercs 238	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:53:00 - [10] - Quote Come on guys dont be rude... Lets now all proto shall we ?

Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 252	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:57:00 - [11] - Quote You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 1596	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:24:00 - [12] - Quote Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Yeah, he got to touch your boob. Too bad he didn't like it, your period you were having then stopped all that. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:32:00 - [13] - Quote Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Jokes on you - channels locked. Invite only! :P Am I the most epic troll or what? :3
Ridire Greine 248	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:34:00 - [14] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Jokes on you - channels locked. Invite only! :P Am I the most epic troll or what? :3 Willing to bet 100k ISK that he tried to join. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2159	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:52:00 - [15] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Jokes on you - channels locked. Invite only! :P Am I the most epic troll or what? :3 Willing to bet 100k ISK that he tried to join. Lolz I like you.. +1 Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4365	Posted - 2014.04.23 03:35:00 - [16] - Quote Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
demens grimwulff Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 246	Posted - 2014.04.23 03:48:00 - [17] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? compensating. Letting us know who has the small package around here. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
Smoky Fingers Red Star. EoN. 348	Posted - 2014.04.23 03:57:00 - [18] - Quote Slim Winning wrote: What's wrong with the world, mama! People livin' like they ain't got no mamas I think the whole world addicted to the drama Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma That's song's so 2thousand and late. Flight stick user. Oh well :(
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:00:00 - [19] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Slim Winning wrote: What's wrong with the world, mama! People livin' like they ain't got no mamas I think the whole world addicted to the drama Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma That's song's so 2thousand and late. Most of us only care about money makin' Selfishness got us followin' in the wrong direction Wrong information always shown by the media Negative images is the main criteria Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria Kids act like what they see in the cinema Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity Whatever happened to the fairness in equality Instead in spreading love we spreading animosity Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found ^ Never a bad song.
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 644	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:14:00 - [20] - Quote Sota, listen to the podcast. Don't do it because its informative, do it because it's so much fun to share the schadenfreude about dns 'join my alliance or else' black

General John Ripper 20390	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:15:00 - [21] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? compensating. Letting us know who has the small package around here. My like count compensates for my lack of tacos. The game has truely gone to **** once I ran out of tacos. Stop liking my posts!! Your killing me!!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!!
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 151	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:36:00 - [22] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I'm gone for a week, maybe 2, I don't remember I was too high, days in my memory seem to be merging together, happy belated 4/20 btw, which is more like a week holiday for south texas, lol, any who, I'm not gone long and things have gotten out of hand PR wise for DNS. Where is this confusion coming from?? Is it AE's statement made a month ago "UNOFFICIALLY" by the largest troll this game has seen since Regynum/Mr.Zitro in closed beta? Is it DNSBlack statement in Soyara's link to a Podcast? Are certain DNSers trolling people too much? Who? Are people just upset about game mechanics and are taking it out on us? Is it just beef like OH vs Cubs, or AE vs everyone else? ?? lol I'm, just sorta at a loss. The DNSers I know and play with are always helping and giving advice and are great people to be around - yet the picture painted on the forums makes it seem like we just want your wallet, your wife, and maybe a kid or two for sacrifices. If you want to get to know more about DNS then I implore you - come visit us at DNS Dusters. We are more then just a vet great looking to conquer or 'win' this game. We are a community, helping each other and those we enjoy being with. And like any community, we also enjoy messing with those we don't like. But the Tl;dr to this is really: Why all the hate? :'( Need to break some down walls between DNS and the community - we're all Dusters in the end. THE LARGEST TROLL THIS GAME HAS SEEN SINCE REGYNUM/MR.ZITRO IN CLOSED BETA?! Pfffffffff, plausible deniability. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:51:00 - [23] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: Sota, listen to the podcast. Don't do it because its informative, do it because it's so much fun to share the schadenfreude about dns 'join my alliance or else' black I listened to it. I was as upset as the rest of you. All of us in the same alliance or we can't participate? I might already be in DNS - but I was not at all cool with forcing people to leave there respective homes in order to compete or participate. Wasn't cool at all with him thinking he knows what 'vets' think or want, either. He seems to think DNS is 90% of the vet community - couldn't be further from the truth. DNS is 90% of the tryhards of the community, the actual vets are people of all sorts, many of whom don't and haven't ever given a **** about PC. But I've had more communication with him since - he's not at all what he appears to be on the show.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 152	Posted - 2014.04.23 05:54:00 - [24] - Quote bunnywink wrote: You guys need to stop getting banned. Hahah. MAYBE THAT IS THE ANSWER. I've wondered the same thing myself countless times. How do they even get themselves banned as much as they do? But now I understand the logistics of Mr. Pop: "I may be bad but I'm perfectly good at it. Forum drama in the air, I don't care, I love the smell of it! Sticks and stones may break my bones, but chains and whips EXXCCIITTEEEE MEEEE!" "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 493	Posted - 2014.04.23 06:10:00 - [25] - Quote What did you expect when the best players in the game dont PLAY the game but are gathering round a camp fire holding hands avd singing combaya my lord I have no personal beef against any in DNS but you guys don't want good games and good fights. The fact that you guys buy any one of that possesses any remote threat kind of prowes that. Regards War never changes
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2014.04.23 06:36:00 - [26] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: What did you expect when the best players in the game dont PLAY the game but are gathering round a camp fire holding hands avd singing combaya my lord I have no personal beef against any in DNS but you guys don't want good games and good fights. The fact that you guys buy any one of that possesses any remote threat kind of prowes that. Regards Don't play? When did every person in DNS huddle in a circle and started jerking each other to you guys? Is that really your view? That's like DNSBlack saying he speaks for the 'vet' community. It's over-generalizing a group you don't understand or even interact with. Don't nitpick DNS then act like an idiot yourself. We still fight plenty, daily, and happily. If there's a slow day - we get 32 people together and FW against each other. EPIC games. Better then most PC's I've ever played. And we're all in the same channel talking mad **** to each other. We aren't slacking, our skills are kept sharp, and our days filled with laughter and tough games. And you know what's funny? It's the same people we were always fighting in PC already! It's like you guys are hiring us to fight for FW while we farm your districts for the pay! Nothings, changed. Seriously, it's pathetic. That's how dead the skill base is. That's how 'competitive' you other corps are. So how about instead of calling us out on not wanting 'good' fights, you get good enough to give them, which you had plenty of time already at this point to be, but, oh wait, you gave that experience to us, hiring us to win all your games. Guess that worked out for you. Thanks for the tea- I mean districts. Now, if you have anything else you want to say to me, try to do so without any ridiculous biased QQ statements in them, and maybe I won't respond so harshly this time. I'm quite tired of the slanderous bullshit coming out of some of you - especially from ML.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 493	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:10:00 - [27] - Quote Again dont have any beef against any one on DNS in fact I play with a bunch of them on regular basis every day. You have your opinion and you are in your own right to have that. However I don't agree to one word you are saying/stating If you guys want epic fights and and a good game it's hippo critical to do what DNS is doing , al you want is a no risk game saying anything else is pathetic. I have ran across you guys qsinking in FW as a example. 16 guys full proto/ads/tanks you name it against 16 randoms. Again nothing wrong with it but I lack to c the fun game in that. Before you go al bonkers I actually don't have a problem that you own everything you are that good period, however your perception about a fun game is some what flawed in my mind. Regards War never changes
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:21:00 - [28] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Again dont have any beef against any one on DNS in fact I play with a bunch of them on regular basis every day. You have your opinion and you are in your own right to have that. However I don't agree to one word you are saying/stating If you guys want epic fights and and a good game it's hippo critical to do what DNS is doing , al you want is a no risk game saying anything else is pathetic. I have ran across you guys qsinking in FW as a example. 16 guys full proto/ads/tanks you name it against 16 randoms. Again nothing wrong with it but I lack to c the fun game in that. Before you go al bonkers I actually don't have a problem that you own everything you are that good period, however your perception about a fun game is some what flawed in my mind. Regards Did me saying that DNS has epic fights in FW come off wrong? Did my comment saying nothings changed from letting you guys PC or fighting in FW not hit home on my point? You weren't giving epic fights. They were always between FA/AE/ERA. And now we sync against each other in FW which opens up several maps and modes for us to play against each other in organized manners. This offers us much more variety then the same 3 maps and game mode vs the same people over and over again... for 6 months. And best part? No annoying ass timers. And on a side note - I find it hard to swallow comments from people representing corps who can't even win mid-tier games. Don't talk about fights when your corp wouldn't ever field you if they did have land, instead buys ringers. - Man I keep coming off jerky, but I am tired of these propagandous statements. If WTF or OH were to say we're just being pussies and not wanted good fights I'd take it, they fight hard, so when they talk mad crap bout DNS on the forums all I can really do smile out of respect. But the rest of you do not hold any position to judge us.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2167	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:49:00 - [29] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: Sota, listen to the podcast. Don't do it because its informative, do it because it's so much fun to share the schadenfreude about dns 'join my alliance or else' black I listened to it. I was as upset as the rest of you. All of us in the same alliance or we can't participate? I might already be in DNS - but I was not at all cool with forcing people to leave there respective homes in order to compete or participate. Wasn't cool at all with him thinking he knows what 'vets' think or want, either. He seems to think DNS is 90% of the vet community - couldn't be further from the truth. DNS is 90% of the tryhards of the community, the actual vets are people of all sorts, many of whom don't and haven't ever given a **** about PC. But I've had more communication with him since - he's not at all what he appears to be on the show. I've never done PC just to do it I only PC for my friends. Personally I have more fun watching anime but then I have no one to bs with. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2167	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:52:00 - [30] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: What did you expect when the best players in the game dont PLAY the game but are gathering round a camp fire holding hands avd singing combaya my lord I have no personal beef against any in DNS but you guys don't want good games and good fights. The fact that you guys buy any one of that possesses any remote threat kind of prowes that. Regards But I like holding hands it makes me feel warm inside. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3116	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:07:00 - [31] - Quote Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
KaoticKrusader 0uter.Heaven 71	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:10:00 - [32] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: What did you expect when the best players in the game dont PLAY the game but are gathering round a camp fire holding hands avd singing combaya my lord I have no personal beef against any in DNS but you guys don't want good games and good fights. The fact that you guys buy any one of that possesses any remote threat kind of prowes that. Regards But I like holding hands it makes me feel warm inside. I can make you feel warm inside .......... By complimenting you on a job well done
KaoticKrusader 0uter.Heaven 71	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:12:00 - [33] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Just fish and rice Hi Tech o/
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:13:00 - [34] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Fried Chicken, mmmm... KFC <3 I actually eat a lot of Taco Bell / Chinese these days.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2168	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:18:00 - [35] - Quote KaoticKrusader wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: What did you expect when the best players in the game dont PLAY the game but are gathering round a camp fire holding hands avd singing combaya my lord I have no personal beef against any in DNS but you guys don't want good games and good fights. The fact that you guys buy any one of that possesses any remote threat kind of prowes that. Regards But I like holding hands it makes me feel warm inside. I can make you feel warm inside .......... By complimenting you on a job well done I haven't seen you in a long time o/ Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2169	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:21:00 - [36] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Fried Chicken, mmmm... KFC <3 I actually eat a lot of Taco Bell / Chinese these days. Never had KFC.. But Kowloons is an amazing Chinese restaurant, in Oregon anyways. And I might eat more than my share of tacos... Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:22:00 - [37] - Quote I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Level 3 Forum Warrior
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3117	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:25:00 - [38] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Fried Chicken, mmmm... KFC <3 I actually eat a lot of Taco Bell / Chinese these days. I happen to stereotypically drink a sht load of tea but my teeth are fine. Tally ho old chap. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:26:00 - [39] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Again dont have any beef against any one on DNS in fact I play with a bunch of them on regular basis every day. You have your opinion and you are in your own right to have that. However I don't agree to one word you are saying/stating If you guys want epic fights and and a good game it's hippo critical to do what DNS is doing , al you want is a no risk game saying anything else is pathetic. I have ran across you guys qsinking in FW as a example. 16 guys full proto/ads/tanks you name it against 16 randoms. Again nothing wrong with it but I lack to c the fun game in that. Before you go al bonkers I actually don't have a problem that you own everything you are that good period, however your perception about a fun game is some what flawed in my mind. Regards Did me saying that DNS has epic fights in FW come off wrong? Did my comment saying nothings changed from letting you guys PC or fighting in FW not hit home on my point? You weren't giving epic fights. They were always between FA/AE/ERA. And now we sync against each other in FW which opens up several maps and modes for us to play against each other in organized manners. This offers us much more variety then the same 3 maps and game mode vs the same people over and over again... for 6 months. And best part? No annoying ass timers. And on a side note - I find it hard to swallow comments from people representing corps who can't even win mid-tier games. Don't talk about fights when your corp wouldn't ever field you if they did have land, instead buys ringers. - Man I keep coming off jerky, but I am tired of these propagandous statements. If WTF or OH were to say we're just being pussies and not wanted good fights I'd take it, they fight hard, so when they talk mad crap bout DNS on the forums all I can really do smile out of respect. But the rest of you do not hold any position to judge us. I hadn't read this one yet when I posted my comment. This pretty much wraps up why Dust will never be able to get where we want it to go. You guys have ALL the talent outside of WTF and OH and you ** all over us for not being able to compete. YOU. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2169	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:26:00 - [40] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Idk bout anyone else but I just expect fights.. Train the guys in our corp. get some chemistry going. Way more fun than pubs Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3118	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:26:00 - [41] - Quote KaoticKrusader wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Just fish and rice Hi Tech o/ o7. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:30:00 - [42] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Idk bout anyone else but I just expect fights.. Train the guys in our corp. get some chemistry going. Way more fun than pubs There's no doubt. What do you think we want? The only avenue we have to do that is to attack one of you guys. Then we get our faces raped off and lose a couple more dudes to you. It's **** up. Then to rub noses in it. I guess good luck. I hope it's fun. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2172	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:37:00 - [43] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Idk bout anyone else but I just expect fights.. Train the guys in our corp. get some chemistry going. Way more fun than pubs There's no doubt. What do you think we want? The only avenue we have to do that is to attack one of you guys. Then we get our faces raped off and lose a couple more dudes to you. It's ****** up. Then to rub noses in it. I guess good luck. I hope it's fun. You're taking it out on the wrong group.. We're Angels. Well the rest are I'm a god. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1545	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:38:00 - [44] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: Sota, listen to the podcast. Don't do it because its informative, do it because it's so much fun to share the schadenfreude about dns 'join my alliance or else' black I listened to it. I was as upset as the rest of you. All of us in the same alliance or we can't participate? I might already be in DNS - but I was not at all cool with forcing people to leave there respective homes in order to compete or participate. Wasn't cool at all with him thinking he knows what 'vets' think or want, either. He seems to think DNS is 90% of the vet community - couldn't be further from the truth. DNS is 90% of the tryhards of the community, the actual vets are people of all sorts, many of whom don't and haven't ever given a **** about PC. But I've had more communication with him since - he's not at all what he appears to be on the show. Requirements for being a Vet in Dust is :...... ?!
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2014.04.23 16:41:00 - [45] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Do you seriously believe this non-sense? How many times did you guys pay me off to hold your crap for you? If you wanted fights why didn't you concentrate spending your ISK getting talent instead of paying us off to win for you? It seems way too convenient for you guys to run your mouths off about this when you did nothing to prepare yourselves to compete. I mean no offense, but your comments... aren't justified. Please, justify them to me so I can better comprehend your point of view, because it seems VERY sketchy right now.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:06:00 - [46] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Do you seriously believe this non-sense? How many times did you guys pay me off to hold your crap for you? If you wanted fights why didn't you concentrate spending your ISK getting talent instead of paying us off to win for you? It seems way too convenient for you guys to run your mouths off about this when you did nothing to prepare yourselves to compete. I mean no offense, but your comments... aren't justified. Please, justify them to me so I can better comprehend your point of view, because it seems VERY sketchy right now. So when all the talent that was in Eon, ANON, Pro Hic, Seraphim, and all the others who abandoned PC go to the corps that were better than them or kicked their ass and caused them to disband it's not going to cause a pretty significant barrier to compete for other teams? Back when there was a larger number of corps participating in PC we fielded our own teams. We even had marginal success. But the pool of participants kept shrinking. It got to the point that it didn't matter if it was corp A vs corp B, you were going to see the same A list names from ringing groups. That's when we started hiring ringers and ultimately when we started locking. Should we have kept fighting instead of locking? Perhaps, but as history shows that probably wouldn't have turned out well. People don't handle losing well in this game, you should know that because most of the talent that is in your alliance is there after their original corp got destroyed by AE or TP. Take Molon Labe out of it. Let's discuss some other names of corps who stuck out despite the odds. Name some names of corps who stuck it out. It'll be a short list. Where do you see the competition coming from? How do you propose those corps prepare? Level 3 Forum Warrior
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:08:00 - [47] - Quote And for the record I am 90% certain that Sota has NEVER been hired by Molon Labe. And to be honest there are only a handful of times we've ever hired ringers. We did use alliance people, but if we are going to get ** on for that then take a look in the mirror. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1431	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:19:00 - [48] - Quote I think what Sota is trying to say is that if we wanted to recruit some of the top talented players in the game, we should have payed for them. If I am not mistaken, a good number of the top players get paid handsomely for participating and doing well in PC. Some of the better corps paid their players weekly salaries, or several million isk per PC battle. Perhaps ML should have had a tax, and paid for the talent... tho that wasn't really our "thing" the result is staying in the mid tier. It is what it is. But in theory, paying for ringers outside of alliance/corp, or paying top tier players to join the corp and play PC, is kinda the same ****. Its just the tags ... Nothing will keep a greed driven player in the corp if we aren't getting the W's, and lets face it the people with the strongest thumbs will want to be paid to play.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:19:00 - [49] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Do you seriously believe this non-sense? How many times did you guys pay me off to hold your crap for you? If you wanted fights why didn't you concentrate spending your ISK getting talent instead of paying us off to win for you? It seems way too convenient for you guys to run your mouths off about this when you did nothing to prepare yourselves to compete. I mean no offense, but your comments... aren't justified. Please, justify them to me so I can better comprehend your point of view, because it seems VERY sketchy right now. So when all the talent that was in Eon, ANON, Pro Hic, Seraphim, and all the others who abandoned PC go to the corps that were better than them or kicked their ass and caused them to disband it's not going to cause a pretty significant barrier to compete for other teams? Back when there was a larger number of corps participating in PC we fielded our own teams. We even had marginal success. But the pool of participants kept shrinking. It got to the point that it didn't matter if it was corp A vs corp B, you were going to see the same A list names from ringing groups. That's when we started hiring ringers and ultimately when we started locking. Should we have kept fighting instead of locking? Perhaps, but as history shows that probably wouldn't have turned out well. People don't handle losing well in this game, you should know that because most of the talent that is in your alliance is there after their original corp got destroyed by AE or TP. Take Molon Labe out of it. Let's discuss some other names of corps who stuck out despite the odds. Name some names of corps who stuck it out. It'll be a short list. Where do you see the competition coming from? How do you propose those corps prepare? The barrier you are talking about is US using our EARNED ISK to get more talent to increase what timers we can take and the flexibility of our teams. We are constantly growing and preparing the next war, even now when there's no one to fight. That is what it means to be a PC corp. And that is what you have failed to understand and prepare for yourself. Complaining because we did exactly as I'm telling you you should of done instead of hiring us out is absurd. And let's not take ML out of this conversation - as it's the perfect corp that exemplifies why just being in PC doesn't make you a PC corp. All forum posts, no victories in game. I do not understand where you guys get off complaining about DNS - have you read some of the ML posts in GD? You guys seriously **** me off sometimes, calling DNS scum for blueing up and not wanting fights - when you never fought in the first place and tried to create your own super-alliance in the past?? Now let's take a look at this list you want me to see that's 'small' - OH, PX1, ToP, WTF, Ghosts of Dawn, MiB, and surprisingly we get hit by other corps I've never heard of too. Guess what they're doing? Preparing for the future. As a good PC corp should. And instead of crying about the blue donut - they're trolling us over there victories. They're not hiring OH and WTF each game so there clone packs stand a chance - these are full corp/alliance teams learning and asking questions in mail. In which a lot of us in NF are more then happy to answer to help that corp grow.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1431	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:24:00 - [50] - Quote Oh and by the way, trying to have a conversation with this fagg0t with your current "tags" is not going to go well.

SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:26:00 - [51] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Oh and by the way, trying to have a conversation with this fagg0t with your current "tags" is not going to go well. If you can't speak with logic and only tears and biased opinion then there's no need to continue this anyways. Your post highlights ML never wanted to be real competition to begin with - so why the tears Thor?????
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1431	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:27:00 - [52] - Quote See
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:27:00 - [53] - Quote What war and with who? Do you have imaginary friends in some parallel server? Level 3 Forum Warrior
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:32:00 - [54] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: What war and with who? Do you have imaginary friends in some parallel server? ... you need to re-read what I wrote. Try not to spill your stupidity so openly in your next post, please. SoTasLost Property wrote: We are constantly growing and preparing the next war, even now when there's no one to fight. That is what it means to be a PC corp. If you want to continue this, I don't mind. I might be looking like a jerk picking on your cryhards, but you're not even bothering to try to think. It's just biased tears of, "waaaah, it's too hard to try now." I can't feel sympathy right now for such responses and approaches to conversation.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:32:00 - [55] - Quote Sota, it's not about tears. It's about reality. The fact that you are justifying blueing up ALL of the capable corps in PC outside of WTF (who had taken off what 8 months?) and OH and shitting all over the rest of Dust is enough in my book. There is no reason to continue talking to you. You are delusional. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:37:00 - [56] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: What war and with who? Do you have imaginary friends in some parallel server? ... you need to re-read what I wrote. Try not to spill your stupidity so openly in your next post, please. SoTasLost Property wrote: We are constantly growing and preparing the next war, even now when there's no one to fight. That is what it means to be a PC corp. If you want to continue this, I don't mind. I might be looking like a jerk picking on your cryhards, but you're not even bothering to try to think. It's just biased tears of, "waaaah, it's too hard to try now." I can't feel sympathy right now for such responses and approaches to conversation. I don't want sympathy. It's just reality dude. You can keep trying to insult me but it doesn't change the reality of this situation. I've said before that I don't blame people for joining DNS given the current situation, but the trash talking that goes along with it is hard to stomach. Just enjoy your ISK dude. But you don't have to trash the other 99% of Dust. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Moorian Flav 210	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:37:00 - [57] - Quote Did you miss out on the KEQQ from DNS, Sota. Even the (in)famous Spero got involved: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155862 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155850 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155866&p=1 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155849&p=1 Anyway, how DNS decided to handle this (through multiple accusing threads) wasn't the best for DNS' rep. It's funny how fast this discussion died once KEQ lost their district. I don't troll; I tell the truth.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:38:00 - [58] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Sota, it's not about tears. It's about reality. The fact that you are justifying blueing up ALL of the capable corps in PC outside of WTF (who had taken off what 8 months?) and OH and shitting all over the rest of Dust is enough in my book. There is no reason to continue talking to you. You are delusional. You're not ever going to stop with the propaganda, are you? I guess when you can't win in game that's the only tool left for you. Please, link me where I justified bluing up the competition. Reality is - your here crying while others are out working and preparing. How is that healthier for the community?? How is that even helping YOUR corp? Get off the forums and get in game and start doing something.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1431	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:39:00 - [59] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I can't feel sympathy right now. In your time playing this game, have you ever been in either of our shoes? Deciding not to hop on the d1ck of the winning team because it is easy and profitable? Sticking with a corp despite constant losses showing up to fight knowing the odds are stacked against you? Training newer players... Taking losses after losses and keep coming back for more.. just to see your allies ditch you... and the strongest of your enemies blueing up nstead of duking it out with eachother like true competition should be? All in the name of "showing CCP how ****** up their game is" or whatever?... If the answer is no (and this is a rhetorical question, don't feel obligated to answer) then that is why you don't have sympathy for situation. And we don't blame you... but don't be surprised when we spit at you fagg0ts. Yes you, everyone who is like you in this f ucked up community, and CCP, f uck all of ya's. Are we clear? lol.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2022	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:42:00 - [60] - Quote [open door] "What's happening here?!" [takes a few steps back -closes door carefully and leave] My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.

SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:48:00 - [61] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: I can't feel sympathy right now. In your time playing this game, have you ever been in either of our shoes? Deciding not to hop on the d1ck of the winning team because it is easy and profitable? Sticking with a corp despite constant losses showing up to fight knowing the odds are stacked against you? Training newer players... Taking losses after losses and keep coming back for more.. just to see your allies ditch you... and the strongest of your enemies blueing up nstead of duking it out with eachother like true competition should be? All in the name of "showing CCP how ****** up their game is" or whatever?... If the answer is no (and this is a rhetorical question, don't feel obligated to answer) then that is why you don't have sympathy for situation. And we don't blame you... but don't be surprised when we spit at you fagg0ts. Yes you, everyone who is like you in this f ucked up community, and CCP, f uck all of ya's. Are we clear? lol. The answer is no because I am not putting myself into corps that'll put me into that situation. I am very sorry you lack foresight or hold onto loyalty that keeps you tied down and not progressing - I will not do that to myself, or to my guys. I know which corps are stable and competitive and can get a merc somewhere - and I know which will never get you anywhere. It is not my fault for not accepting the invites to join ML, PX1, STB, or the other corps out there - you guys just simply aren't competitive and you have no drive to be competitive. And the only corp I ever applied to was ZionTCD - I have never applied to anyone else. Ever. If you want me - I'll fight for you - if you convince me, I'll join you. But right now - I made my own corp. Heaven's Lost Property, we are in the same boat the rest of you are in when it comes to getting competitive players - but we aren't struggling to get them. Why is ML? And don't say reputation, ML is as known as I am, if not more so.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:54:00 - [62] - Quote Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go ** yourself. If you are even in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2014.04.23 17:59:00 - [63] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go **** yourself. If you are even in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. Oh noes, you mean I'll always be with my friends just with different tags?? That sounds AWFUL! How will I ever get past the embarrassment? LOL HvLP is here to stay. If you got to know what's going on with this Corp you'd be a lot friendlier with me ^_^
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3481	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:02:00 - [64] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go ** yourself. If you are even in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. Oh noes, you mean I'll always be with my friends just with different tags?? That sounds AWFUL! How will I ever get past the embarrassment? LOL HvLP is here to stay. If you got to know what's going on with this Corp you'd be a lot friendlier with me ^_^ You are a troll and you've succeeded. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:07:00 - [65] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go **** yourself. If you are even in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. Oh noes, you mean I'll always be with my friends just with different tags?? That sounds AWFUL! How will I ever get past the embarrassment? LOL HvLP is here to stay. If you got to know what's going on with this Corp you'd be a lot friendlier with me ^_^ You are a troll and you've succeeded. Plenty of troll statements for flare, sure, but none of my posts can be said to be anything but conversation. Please try not to dismiss me simply because you can't properly respond to any of my posts. Now git gud
Ridire Greine 256	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:20:00 - [66] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: And to be honest there are only a handful of times we've ever hired ringers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4 "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1433	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:27:00 - [67] - Quote Knight... how many times has ML hired ringers? Please provide picture evidence and a ratio in the form of For every 100 PC battles, ML hired ringers outside of their alliance "x" number of times. Thanks.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2024	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:30:00 - [68] - Quote [comes back] "Don't mind me, I forgot my popcorn" [sits back in a corner and watches] My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:38:00 - [69] - Quote I have yet to find a real source to this animosity towards DNS. Just more tears and excuses why corps didn't do anything for a year to keep up with competition.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1435	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:43:00 - [70] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I have yet to find a real source to this animosity towards DNS. You are the source, you just refuse to believe it.

Ridire Greine 256	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:44:00 - [71] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Knight... how many times has ML hired ringers? Please provide picture evidence and a ratio in the form of For every 100 PC battles, ML hired ringers outside of their alliance "x" number of times. Thanks. For every 100 PC Battles, ML has hired ringers outside of their alliance for almost every one. http://i.imgur.com/7WRhKR7.png?1 "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1435	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:46:00 - [72] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Knight... how many times has ML hired ringers? Please provide picture evidence and a ratio in the form of For every 100 PC battles, ML hired ringers outside of their alliance "x" number of times. Thanks. For every 100 PC Battles, ML has hired ringers outside of their alliance for almost every one. http://i.imgur.com/7WRhKR7.png?1 lol thanks, I can now call you a stupid bandwagoneer... and mean it.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:47:00 - [73] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: I have yet to find a real source to this animosity towards DNS. You are the source, you just refuse to believe it. That implies you're just butt hurt over being trolled, and by someone who hasn't been using the forums since DNS's creation. ML is seriously this butt hurt? You scrubs seriously need to get off the forums and ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME if you're going to ***** about it.
Ridire Greine 256	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:49:00 - [74] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: For every 100 PC Battles, ML has hired ringers outside of their alliance for almost every one. http://i.imgur.com/7WRhKR7.png?1 lol thanks, I can now call you a stupid bandwagoneer... and mean it. [/quote] Its not my fault you're having problems accepting the concrete evidence I have put forward. Insert obligatory eye roll "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1435	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:57:00 - [75] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: I have yet to find a real source to this animosity towards DNS. You are the source, you just refuse to believe it. That implies you're just butt hurt over being trolled, and by someone who hasn't been using the forums since DNS's creation. ML is seriously this butt hurt? You scrubs seriously need to get off the forums and ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME if you're going to *** about it. Oh, you took the metaphorical "you" and thought I meant just sota. that's funny, anywho.. I don't have a PS3 at work bro, how can I play the game if I don't have a PS3 here? COME ON BRO This difference of opinion, if we shall call it that, simply implies that we have completely different views on the subject. Nothing to get your panties all up in a bunch about. And remember... ML is a very large corp... the posts from just 2 scrubs on the forums does not represent the feelings of an entire group. Much like you request that we do not formulate our opinions based on the actions of a few of your members, should you not practice what you preach sota popinski? Butt hurt? lolno.. ive stopped playing, game kinda went to again.. PC was the last fun thing to do in the game and the one thing I can truly thank the dirty nappy sluts is proving how ** it really is. Yeah yeah, I could hop on the like some of you and your bronies did, apply to a different corp, farm isk, play pubs/FW while waiting for CCP to come up with a new brilliant idea. but .. yeahhhh no thanks. I'll be sure to come back and ruffle your feathers for *** and giggles again real soon. until then, toodles.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1605	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:07:00 - [76] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: I can't feel sympathy right now. In your time playing this game, have you ever been in either of our shoes? Deciding not to hop on the d1ck of the winning team because it is easy and profitable? Sticking with a corp despite constant losses showing up to fight knowing the odds are stacked against you? Training newer players... Taking losses after losses and keep coming back for more.. just to see your allies ditch you... and the strongest of your enemies blueing up nstead of duking it out with eachother like true competition should be? All in the name of "showing CCP how ****** up their game is" or whatever?... If the answer is no (and this is a rhetorical question, don't feel obligated to answer) then that is why you don't have sympathy for situation. And we don't blame you... but don't be surprised when we spit at you fagg0ts. Yes you, everyone who is like you in this f ucked up community, and CCP, f uck all of ya's. Are we clear? lol. The answer is no because I am not putting myself into corps that'll put me into that situation. I am very sorry you lack foresight or hold onto loyalty that keeps you tied down and not progressing - I will not do that to myself, or to my guys. I know which corps are stable and competitive and can get a merc somewhere - and I know which will never get you anywhere. It is not my fault for not accepting the invites to join ML, PX1, STB, or the other corps out there - you guys just simply aren't competitive and you have no drive to be competitive. And the only corp I ever applied to was ZionTCD - I have never applied to anyone else. Ever. If you want me - I'll fight for you - if you convince me, I'll join you. But right now - I made my own corp. Heaven's Lost Property, we are in the same boat the rest of you are in when it comes to getting competitive players - but we aren't struggling to get them. Why is ML? And don't say reputation, ML is as known as I am, if not more so. I'm only using this quote because it has the most issues I want to impress upon you all. This is the section where I back ML, and I read: -Sota, as I've seen from your corp history, you've been in nothing but top tier corps. Corps famous for being able to thrash on noobs and hold their own against vets. I, ER and Thor didn't have that luxury, however. My previous corps I would never have considered competitive, at least not against the people I've met here. You probably have no idea what it's like feeling like your team isn't up to snuff and you have to try to do everything to carry (if you've ever seen my skill sheet, you'll see I have this mentality.) -I realized your little question about what happens if your alliance leaves you in the cold, but I feel as if my two cents should be put in. I do know how it feels to be backstabbed, heck, back in my original clan, I had someone who I felt stab me in the back, destroyed our whole unit in Dust in fact. But that is a story for another day, and one I will not tell right now. -Sota, it looks to me as if you're chastising them for sticking with a corp through good and bad. There is something to be said about loyalty to a corp name. And here's the case for Sota, and I read: -Thor, ER, where do you get off spewing all this crap. You talk of all the competition blueing up and all this crap, when in reality, you would've done the exact same thing if given the opportunity. -On the alliance ditching you, correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember you being in ROFL, PD, and TSO's. If I remember correctly, ROFL you all left, PD merged with TSO's after STB kicked all the noobs, and FA and RND left TSO's, so I fail to see how you were ditched by an alliance. -Only called in ringers a handful of times? Hardly, back when Fusion was in ML, he was up in the Skype chat saying he'd need a 15 man team of FA because ERA came a knocking. And when I was in PX1, we hit you guys quite a few times, you had a 15 man team of GAC once, and if I remember correctly, an 8 man team of KEQ in one match. And don't pull that it was alliance crap with me, I saw a few ML guys do a little bit of calling out PX1 back when we were at war with you, and some of you started bashing DDB for calling in AE (still a wimp tactic IMO, but it helps support the case). -And on the whole big blue donut. I have one question for you, why should DNS split up and start fighting again, you're the one that has a problem with it. If you've got beef with it, break it down, kill it. Do something instead of whining that it's too hard. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:10:00 - [77] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Oh, you took the metaphorical "you" and thought I meant just sota. that's funny, anywho.. I don't have a PS3 at work bro, how can I play the game if I don't have a PS3 here? COME ON BRO This difference of opinion, if we shall call it that, simply implies that we have completely different views on the subject. Nothing to get your panties all up in a bunch about. And remember... ML is a very large corp... the posts from just 2 scrubs on the forums does not represent the feelings of an entire group. Much like you request that we do not formulate our opinions based on the actions of a few of your members, should you not practice what you preach sota popinski? Butt hurt? lolno.. ive stopped playing, game kinda went to ** again.. PC was the last fun thing to do in the game and the one thing I can truly thank the dirty nappy sluts is proving how ** it really is. Yeah yeah, I could hop on the like some of you and your bronies did, apply to a different corp, farm isk, play pubs/FW while waiting for CCP to come up with a new brilliant idea. but .. yeahhhh no thanks. I'll be sure to come back and ruffle your feathers for *** and giggles again real soon. until then, toodles. I can only respond to comments as they are presented to me. Feel free to reword your original post to make sure your metaphoric 'you' is implied properly. Because you are directing your post to my quote saying 'you' And, lol, "I'm not butt hurt, but here's a list of reasons why I'm butt hurt." Did you really just do that?? LOL
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:18:00 - [78] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: I can't feel sympathy right now. In your time playing this game, have you ever been in either of our shoes? Deciding not to hop on the d1ck of the winning team because it is easy and profitable? Sticking with a corp despite constant losses showing up to fight knowing the odds are stacked against you? Training newer players... Taking losses after losses and keep coming back for more.. just to see your allies ditch you... and the strongest of your enemies blueing up nstead of duking it out with eachother like true competition should be? All in the name of "showing CCP how ****** up their game is" or whatever?... If the answer is no (and this is a rhetorical question, don't feel obligated to answer) then that is why you don't have sympathy for situation. And we don't blame you... but don't be surprised when we spit at you fagg0ts. Yes you, everyone who is like you in this f ucked up community, and CCP, f uck all of ya's. Are we clear? lol. The answer is no because I am not putting myself into corps that'll put me into that situation. I am very sorry you lack foresight or hold onto loyalty that keeps you tied down and not progressing - I will not do that to myself, or to my guys. I know which corps are stable and competitive and can get a merc somewhere - and I know which will never get you anywhere. It is not my fault for not accepting the invites to join ML, PX1, STB, or the other corps out there - you guys just simply aren't competitive and you have no drive to be competitive. And the only corp I ever applied to was ZionTCD - I have never applied to anyone else. Ever. If you want me - I'll fight for you - if you convince me, I'll join you. But right now - I made my own corp. Heaven's Lost Property, we are in the same boat the rest of you are in when it comes to getting competitive players - but we aren't struggling to get them. Why is ML? And don't say reputation, ML is as known as I am, if not more so. I'm only using this quote because it has the most issues I want to impress upon you all. This is the section where I back ML, and I read: -Sota, as I've seen from your corp history, you've been in nothing but top tier corps. Corps famous for being able to thrash on noobs and hold their own against vets. I, ER and Thor didn't have that luxury, however. My previous corps I would never have considered competitive, at least not against the people I've met here. You probably have no idea what it's like feeling like your team isn't up to snuff and you have to try to do everything to carry (if you've ever seen my skill sheet, you'll see I have this mentality.) -I realized your little question about what happens if your alliance leaves you in the cold wasn't directed at me, but I feel as if my two cents should be put in. I do know how it feels to be backstabbed, heck, back in my original clan, I had someone who I felt stab me in the back, destroyed our whole unit in Dust in fact. But that is a story for another day, and one I will not tell right now. -Sota, it looks to me as if you're chastising them for sticking with a corp through good and bad. There is something to be said about loyalty to a corp name. Fair point, didn't mean to make it seem like I'm chastising them for being loyal - but they're doing it to me for being a merc in a merc game. How is that fair? And I climbed for 7-8 months in ZTCD before making a name for myself enough to leave it and join real competitive corps - it took time, a lot of it, to get where I am.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 933	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:30:00 - [79] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I have yet to find a real source to this animosity towards DNS. Just more tears and excuses why corps didn't do anything for a year to keep up with competition. SoTa, I'm not sure if I can give you the "real" answer but I can provide you with my observations of what lead us here. 1) The initial concerns grew from perceptions that Kain Spero was potentially using some level of insight gained by his position as a CPM member. Clearly this has never been proven nor will it. I donGÇÖt think heGÇÖs conducted any type of GÇ£insider tradingGÇ¥ so to speak but itGÇÖs very natural and probably correct to assume that his deep understanding of the game and knowledge of likely developmental scenarios informs his decisions. I actually donGÇÖt mind what Kain Spero the player has done, however, Kain has unintentionally blurred the perception of the Player vs the CPM member in some of his interactions with the community and certainly lot of his guys feed that perspective with their comments. I do think Kain has the best interest of the game at heart and itGÇÖs very difficult to square his player persona with the CPM activities since folks believe the CPM should be a champion of the community of sorts. 2) DNS BlackGÇªaka DNS Bat.Schit.Crazy. His interaction with the community as a prominent EVE player and leading contender for CSM9 has clearly been the driving force behind the friction in the community. I know Hans and some others are just saying GÇ£itGÇÖs all a fa+ºadeGÇ¥ wellGÇªperception is reality and particularly in Dust where you donGÇÖt have the same level of social interaction as you do in EVE. I have zero problem with taking over 100% of MH if your effort and the mechanics allow itGÇªI have a REAL problem that heGÇÖs trying to set himself up as CCP BLACK and demand we all play by his rules to play at all. He jumped the shark pretty bad in that podcast and a few other times in EVE coms that were being recorded when he very clearly and repeatedly said GÇ£F#ck the Community, I donGÇÖt need themGÇ¥ and continue to build on that theme. Kain and others in DNS hadnGÇÖt heard those statements for a few days and continued to come to strongly come to his defenseGÇª.that made everyone with DNS tags look like a$$hats that even the itGÇÖs just GÇ£in-gameGÇ¥ smack talk wouldnGÇÖt cover. Even quite a few EVE guys that frankly donGÇÖt give a damn about Dust have messaged me and let me know that they are dropping him from Corp ballets because of his comments. That was pretty telling. LastlyGÇªa lot of folks are actually glad that a known entity like Black was taking such vocal interest in the game but they want that voice to call for making the game better not an ego mirror for an individual. HereGÇÖs a fact for youGÇªwe were even trying to reach out to him about working with us in Dust a few weeks before Dirt Nap made their official appearance in Dust. IGÇÖve gotten incredible razzing internal to our alliance leadership in retrospect of that once folks saw how he interacts with people and frankly seems to care way more about himself than anything else. 3) Mechanics. It is absolutely technically correct that DNS can be stopped by the other players of Dust outside DNS. From a practical standpoint, itGÇÖs unfeasible based on the mechanics that are currently in play. The imbalance of ISK, clone pack size, and logistics (or really lack thereof) grant DNS massive advantages. To be clear, I seriously applaud the time and effort and homework guys did to accomplish what youGÇÖve done. LotGÇÖs of corps willingly walked away from PC several months ago (including us) due to mechanics, lag, refusal to bring in outside players, and ultimately not being able to treat the game like a second job at times. For us (OSG) that seriously puts us behind the 8-ball in trying to get a foothold without renting into DNS and/or emptying the coffers very quickly with costly wins or losses. The ISK imbalance is probably the ultimate issue at this pointGÇªask Kain, I suspect heGÇÖll agree. In retrospect, I donGÇÖt know if we would have walked away knowing how things would develop but the decision made sense at the time 6moGÇÖs ago. OSG is an example of a Corp, and in some cases individual players, that simply off-ramped and are paying for it. We know that and arenGÇÖt whining about it; we are working to fix things on our end. HoweverGÇªyou not acknowledging the significant ways the playing field is stacked in your favor in many ways doesnGÇÖt make you any better than those pointing fingers and griping. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Youmadbroyolo Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:39:00 - [80] - Quote Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost.

Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2707	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:47:00 - [81] - Quote Youmadbroyolo wrote: Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost. lol, as a troll, you are weak... I mean SoTa is a Scrub... boo or whatever... How to Leave PC
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 161	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:51:00 - [82] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Idk bout anyone else but I just expect fights.. Train the guys in our corp. get some chemistry going. Way more fun than pubs There's no doubt. What do you think we want? The only avenue we have to do that is to attack one of you guys. Then we get our faces raped off and lose a couple more dudes to you. It's ****** up. Then to rub noses in it. I guess good luck. I hope it's fun. You're taking it out on the wrong group.. We're Angels. Well the rest are I'm a god. I am a Goddess... GOML. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 161	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:00:00 - [83] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go **** yourself. If you are ever in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. HvLP is, as Sota said, here to stay. Even at the improbability that everyone would leave and move to another corporation, I will be here for the rest of my DUST existence. Sota created the Anime Corp and I created Heaven's Lost Property. With that said, we aren't just a corporation, we're a family. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:03:00 - [84] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: OSG is an example of a Corp, and in some cases individual players, that simply off-ramped and are paying for it. We know that and arenGÇÖt whining about it; we are working to fix things on our end. HoweverGÇªyou not acknowledging the significant ways the playing field is stacked in your favor in many ways doesnGÇÖt make you any better than those pointing fingers and griping. Mechanics suck, sure, and give the edge to the group on the defense, which isn't all that strange when you think about it, they should find a real way to give defenders an advantage, I was thinking something a long the lines of purchasable items usable on districts that grant DPS/EHP/Speed bonuses to your team. But, i digress, the mechanics blows. But what blows the most is how you guys want to segregate a group for trying to 'win' this game. How dare some of you? ML especially has absolutely no room to talk down to DNS about what they're doing - And I hope they remember all the bs they're posting this month when they come asking for help 4 months down the line. But, either way, I'm glad to see a reasonable poster appear finally. I hadn't realized how far reaching DNSBlack hate really was. DNS Dust side has no intention of following what he said in the Podcast concerning the tournament bs. Or not working with the community. Quite the opposite in fact - the community NEEDS to be on board, we either sell it to you guys, or don't do it.
Ridire Greine 258	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:04:00 - [85] - Quote Youmadbroyolo wrote: Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost. Can confirm that DNS are powerful because of the ability to glitch reloads. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:12:00 - [86] - Quote Youmadbroyolo wrote: Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost. Hey - AE - can you hear me? Go ** yourselves. You're not an alliance member, you're a *** virus who used us to keep FA off you, and had no idea what to do next without getting owned by combined ERA/FA/RND forces so you went with the DNS ball. You let your members leave corp to make alts to attack us - and you generally on everyone around you who isn't holding your e-peen up for you. You disobey alliance orders, and make decisions on your own even though it effects other groups in your alliance. Get your together, act like a corp in an alliance, or get the out. No offense, I had high high hopes with working with you guys, and at the start working with Kujo and Titus and Steel Dark Knight - I almost thought it possible. But it's clear as day to me now your leaders can't control your corp and AE will just ** on everything left and right because they can. Maybe you guys will pull through and actually start TALKING to the rest of the alliance you're in without needing a team from us first, but I doubt it. That's my opinion, does that make you happy?
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1608	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:12:00 - [87] - Quote Holy crap, a new guy from OSG. Dear OSG guy, I implore you, right now. LEAVE THIS ROOM AND NEVER RETURN!! Go!! Run!! Once you've been exposed to this hellish land, you'll never return! RUN!! Save yourself!! The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
General John Ripper 20402	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:14:00 - [88] - Quote I wanted to say a good joke but its not even funny Stop liking my posts!! Your killing me!!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!!
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3482	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:17:00 - [89] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go ** yourself. If you are ever in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. HvLP is, as Sota said, here to stay. Even at the improbability that everyone would leave and move to another corporation, I will be here for the rest of my DUST existence. Sota created the Anime Corp and I created Heaven's Lost Property. With that said, we aren't just a corporation, we're a family. That's cool, I don't mean to trash the hard work you've more than likely put into your corp. a few hours ago I would have jammed his head through sheet rock. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 162	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:20:00 - [90] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: B1ack ice wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go **** yourself. If you are ever in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. HvLP is, as Sota said, here to stay. Even at the improbability that everyone would leave and move to another corporation, I will be here for the rest of my DUST existence. Sota created the Anime Corp and I created Heaven's Lost Property. With that said, we aren't just a corporation, we're a family. That's cool, I don't mean to trash the hard work you've more than likely put into your corp. a few hours ago I would have jammed his head through sheet rock. LOL Sometimes I want to do that to Sota myself... But in a sisterly way. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.

SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:21:00 - [91] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: B1ack ice wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go ** yourself. If you are ever in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. HvLP is, as Sota said, here to stay. Even at the improbability that everyone would leave and move to another corporation, I will be here for the rest of my DUST existence. Sota created the Anime Corp and I created Heaven's Lost Property. With that said, we aren't just a corporation, we're a family. That's cool, I don't mean to trash the hard work you've more than likely put into your corp. a few hours ago I would have jammed his head through sheet rock. Can't win with words so you turn to violence? Typical peasant. Get back in your cage. I have no respect for your type, and have lost a ** ton of respect I had for you till this day, and I had PLENTY of respect for you till now. But this? Absurd comments with no basis, and now talks of violence in reality. You've just turned into a completely scum guy over a game. Pathetic. :\
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1436	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:24:00 - [92] - Quote I would smash your face through sheet rock as well, just sayin. lol
Ridire Greine 260	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:26:00 - [93] - Quote HULK ANGRY! HULK SMASH! GRARARAGAHARRRRrrrrrrr........ "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1608	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:26:00 - [94] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: B1ack ice wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go ** yourself. If you are ever in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. HvLP is, as Sota said, here to stay. Even at the improbability that everyone would leave and move to another corporation, I will be here for the rest of my DUST existence. Sota created the Anime Corp and I created Heaven's Lost Property. With that said, we aren't just a corporation, we're a family. That's cool, I don't mean to trash the hard work you've more than likely put into your corp. a few hours ago I would have jammed his head through sheet rock. Can't win with words so you turn to violence? Typical peasant. Get back in your cage. I have no respect for your type, and have lost a ** ton of respect I had for you till this day, and I had PLENTY of respect for you till now. But this? Absurd comments with no basis, and now talks of violence in reality. You've just turned into a completely scum guy over a game. Pathetic. :\ WIN WITH WORDS!! Faints out of disbelief wakes up Don't you know the code of the man?! Article 145, paragraph 13, sentence 4 clearly states that any altercation between two men can always be solved with violence or an AMV, an AMV which I'm not 100% sure could fall under a panty dropper song. Guess I'll pull a "who wants to be a millionaire" and ask the audience. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:26:00 - [95] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: I would smash your face through sheet rock as well, just sayin. lol the hell for? You guys take this game way more seriously then I do - paragraphs on the forums, words over a Skype call - that's as far as I go. Just don't **** with HvLP - because then I'll get serious ^_^
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1436	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:27:00 - [96] - Quote Dude chill, I would totally buy you a beer afterwards
Ridire Greine 260	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:28:00 - [97] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: WIN WITH WORDS!! Faints out of disbelief wakes up Don't you know the code of the man?! Article 145, paragraph 13, sentence 4 clearly states that any altercation between two men can always be solved with violence or an AMV, an AMV which I'm not 100% sure could fall under a panty dropper song. Guess I'll pull a "who wants to be a millionaire" and ask the audience. The keyboard is mightier than the ability to smash people's face's through things! "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 162	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:29:00 - [98] - Quote I just have to say... Physical violence is for pussies. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3483	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:30:00 - [99] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: B1ack ice wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go ** yourself. If you are ever in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. HvLP is, as Sota said, here to stay. Even at the improbability that everyone would leave and move to another corporation, I will be here for the rest of my DUST existence. Sota created the Anime Corp and I created Heaven's Lost Property. With that said, we aren't just a corporation, we're a family. That's cool, I don't mean to trash the hard work you've more than likely put into your corp. a few hours ago I would have jammed his head through sheet rock. Can't win with words so you turn to violence? Typical peasant. Get back in your cage. I have no respect for your type, and have lost a ton of respect I had for you till this day, and I had PLENTY of respect for you till now. But this? Absurd comments with no basis, and now talks of violence in reality. You've just turned into a completely scum guy over a game. Pathetic. :\ Dude, I've spent a year busting my ass to help build up my corp. The founding dudes left *** PRO and started from scratch. Then after a few weeks Sev Kimura left Dust for real life stuff. But we grew into the most active corp in Dust. And we are purging PC players because of this competitive environment that shitheads like you have created. Go back and look at some of the bullshit you've posted. How do you think I'm going to react? I could give two fucks if you respect me. I've talked to you a grand total of Zero times. It's the internet dude. I could say I'm going to bang your ear hole and it means nothing. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1608	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:32:00 - [100] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: I just have to say... Physical violence is for pussies. But physical violence is the only language men truly understand. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.

SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:33:00 - [101] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: B1ack ice wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Your corp won't be around long dude. When that donut breaks up and you get attacked, you'll fold up and hop onto the winning train. In the meantime go ** yourself. If you are ever in Dallas shoot me a message. I'd love to buy you a beer. I promise not to bounce your head off the bar. HvLP is, as Sota said, here to stay. Even at the improbability that everyone would leave and move to another corporation, I will be here for the rest of my DUST existence. Sota created the Anime Corp and I created Heaven's Lost Property. With that said, we aren't just a corporation, we're a family. That's cool, I don't mean to trash the hard work you've more than likely put into your corp. a few hours ago I would have jammed his head through sheet rock. Can't win with words so you turn to violence? Typical peasant. Get back in your cage. I have no respect for your type, and have lost a ton of respect I had for you till this day, and I had PLENTY of respect for you till now. But this? Absurd comments with no basis, and now talks of violence in reality. You've just turned into a completely scum guy over a game. Pathetic. :\ Dude, I've spent a year busting my ass to help build up my corp. The founding dudes left ***** PRO and started from scratch. Then after a few weeks Sev Kimura left Dust for real life stuff. But we grew into the most active corp in Dust. And we are purging PC players because of this competitive environment that shitheads like you have created. Go back and look at some of the bullshit you've posted. How do you think I'm going to react? I could give two fucks if you respect me. I've talked to you a grand total of Zero times. It's the internet dude. I could say I'm going to bang your ear hole and it means nothing. You spent a year building a corp just to persecute people for wanting to be competitive? Holy... crap... Yea, we don't see eye to eye. Why do you even post in the war room? This place obviously isn't for you.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 162	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:34:00 - [102] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: B1ack ice wrote: I just have to say... Physical violence is for pussies. But physical violence is the only language men truly understand. So, what you're saying is this: Men think with their d!cks, but have no actual balls? "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1438	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:35:00 - [103] - Quote Actually, when I make chicks squirt... they do it violently. So you are correct, violence IS for pussies. pew pew pew pew
Youmadbroyolo Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:41:00 - [104] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Youmadbroyolo wrote: Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost. Hey - AE - can you hear me? Go ** yourselves. You're not an alliance member, you're a *** virus who used us to keep FA off you, and had no idea what to do next without getting owned by combined ERA/FA/RND forces so you went with the DNS ball. You let your members leave corp to make alts to attack us - and you generally on everyone around you who isn't holding your e-peen up for you. You disobey alliance orders, and make decisions on your own even though it effects other groups in your alliance. Get your together, act like a corp in an alliance, or get the out. No offense, I had high high hopes with working with you guys, and at the start working with Kujo and Titus and Steel Dark Knight - I almost thought it possible. But it's clear as day to me now your leaders can't control your corp and AE will just on everything left and right because they can. Maybe you guys will pull through and actually start TALKING to the rest of the alliance you're in without needing a team from us first, but I doubt it. That's my opinion, does that make you happy? Yeah it does, It shows how old you have gotten, Back in the day you would have had no quams about leaving a side that was working with people you did not like. Now you just * and moan instead of fighting the good fight. Sounds like AE is the most independent of the bunch, and when that is the case what the hell does that make your corp? Its nice to see you still got the conviction though. Now where the ** is the action? Its gone where everyone elses has gone, and that is why there is the hate against DNS and why no one puts any fight into the game. Because eventually the roulette wheel stopped rolling and guess what? DNS had the winning number. And there is not a single corp corp or strong leader around that wants to spin it again with any real conviction. PC reached its high water mark a long time ago, you know it, I know it and really everyone knows it. Too bad it was never enough water to actually drown ourselves in. You know its over you just don't want to admit it. Go watch anime and forget about dust sota you will be far happier.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1071	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:41:00 - [105] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: I would smash your face through sheet rock as well, just sayin. lol the hell for? You guys take this game way more seriously then I do - paragraphs on the forums, words over a Skype call - that's as far as I go. Just don't **** with HvLP - because then I'll get serious ^_^ The facts are you are good at a video game. You use this skill to look and talk down to others -- people who have played just as much and have just as much invested in their corps and friends -- then wonder why people react negatively. If you ever spoke to me in real life like you speak to this forum, I, too, would pound your face in. That's how life outside your mom's basement goes....where your anonymity and condescension are safely hidden.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1439	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:42:00 - [106] - Quote Youmadbroyolo wrote: Yeah it does, It shows how old you have gotten, Back in the day you would have had no quams about leaving a side that was working with people you did not like. Now you just *** and moan instead of fighting the good fight. Sounds like AE is the most independent of the bunch, and when that is the case what the hell does that make your corp? Its nice to see you still got the conviction though. Now where the ** is the action? Its gone where everyone elses has gone, and that is why there is the hate against DNS and why no one puts any fight into the game. Because eventually the roulette wheel stopped rolling and guess what? DNS had the winning number. And there is not a single corp corp or strong leader around that wants to spin it again with any real conviction. PC reached its high water mark a long time ago, you know it, I know it and really everyone knows it. Too bad it was never enough water to actually drown ourselves in. You know its over you just don't want to admit it. Go watch anime and forget about dust sota you will be far happier. DUDE.. you will regret that comment in 4 months. you should probably delete.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:44:00 - [107] - Quote Youmadbroyolo wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Youmadbroyolo wrote: Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost. Hey - AE - can you hear me? Go ** yourselves. You're not an alliance member, you're a *** virus who used us to keep FA off you, and had no idea what to do next without getting owned by combined ERA/FA/RND forces so you went with the DNS ball. You let your members leave corp to make alts to attack us - and you generally on everyone around you who isn't holding your e-peen up for you. You disobey alliance orders, and make decisions on your own even though it effects other groups in your alliance. Get your together, act like a corp in an alliance, or get the out. No offense, I had high high hopes with working with you guys, and at the start working with Kujo and Titus and Steel Dark Knight - I almost thought it possible. But it's clear as day to me now your leaders can't control your corp and AE will just on everything left and right because they can. Maybe you guys will pull through and actually start TALKING to the rest of the alliance you're in without needing a team from us first, but I doubt it. That's my opinion, does that make you happy? Yeah it does, It shows how old you have gotten, Back in the day you would have had no quams about leaving a side that was working with people you did not like. Now you just * and moan instead of fighting the good fight. Sounds like AE is the most independent of the bunch, and when that is the case what the hell does that make your corp? Its nice to see you still got the conviction though. Now where the ** is the action? Its gone where everyone elses has gone, and that is why there is the hate against DNS and why no one puts any fight into the game. Because eventually the roulette wheel stopped rolling and guess what? DNS had the winning number. And there is not a single corp corp or strong leader around that wants to spin it again with any real conviction. PC reached its high water mark a long time ago, you know it, I know it and really everyone knows it. Too bad it was never enough water to actually drown ourselves in. You know its over you just don't want to admit it. Go watch anime and forget about dust sota you will be far happier. Nice meta, but in the past I only spoke for myself as a grunt. I'm no longer in that comfortable position, especially with HvLP around. This statement a lone is taking things a bit far. But it is my personal opinion in which I can not act on - so I sure as hell will share it. Maybe AE will read it and start working to make a better alliance. But, one thing Dust has shown me - hope around here has a way of biting you in the ass.
Youmadbroyolo Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:46:00 - [108] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? Cuse its the only place his mom will let him?
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:50:00 - [109] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: I would smash your face through sheet rock as well, just sayin. lol the hell for? You guys take this game way more seriously then I do - paragraphs on the forums, words over a Skype call - that's as far as I go. Just don't **** with HvLP - because then I'll get serious ^_^ The facts are you are good at a video game. You use this skill to look and talk down to others -- people who have played just as much and have just as much invested in their corps and friends -- then wonder why people react negatively. If you ever spoke to me in real life like you speak to this forum, I, too, would pound your face in. That's how life outside your mom's basement goes....where your anonymity and condescension are safely hidden. If you believe I consider any of your persona's here an actual representation of your real personality, then you're either new to the internet or just enjoy tunnel vision. No one in this game is a bad person in real life, and I would take nothing said on a video game forum into reality to hurt someone over. As far as tone goes in real life - if I'm speaking to you like this, I'm probably already ready to smash your face in myself, so, uh, thx for the comparison? But this tone doesn't translate the same emotionally for me online as you would expect in reality, I'm much less emotionally involved here. When the screen turns off - so does any feelings for this forums, minimal as they already were. Only thing I care about is my Corp and my enjoyment of this game.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 163	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:53:00 - [110] - Quote Youmadbroyolo wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Youmadbroyolo wrote: Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost. Hey - AE - can you hear me? Go ** yourselves. You're not an alliance member, you're a *** virus who used us to keep FA off you, and had no idea what to do next without getting owned by combined ERA/FA/RND forces so you went with the DNS ball. You let your members leave corp to make alts to attack us - and you generally on everyone around you who isn't holding your e-peen up for you. You disobey alliance orders, and make decisions on your own even though it effects other groups in your alliance. Get your together, act like a corp in an alliance, or get the out. No offense, I had high high hopes with working with you guys, and at the start working with Kujo and Titus and Steel Dark Knight - I almost thought it possible. But it's clear as day to me now your leaders can't control your corp and AE will just on everything left and right because they can. Maybe you guys will pull through and actually start TALKING to the rest of the alliance you're in without needing a team from us first, but I doubt it. That's my opinion, does that make you happy? Yeah it does, It shows how old you have gotten, Back in the day you would have had no quams about leaving a side that was working with people you did not like. Now you just * and moan instead of fighting the good fight. Sounds like AE is the most independent of the bunch, and when that is the case what the hell does that make your corp? Its nice to see you still got the conviction though. Now where the ** is the action? Its gone where everyone elses has gone, and that is why there is the hate against DNS and why no one puts any fight into the game. Because eventually the roulette wheel stopped rolling and guess what? DNS had the winning number. And there is not a single corp corp or strong leader around that wants to spin it again with any real conviction. PC reached its high water mark a long time ago, you know it, I know it and really everyone knows it. Too bad it was never enough water to actually drown ourselves in. You know its over you just don't want to admit it. Go watch anime and forget about dust sota you will be far happier. You represent the people of DUST, the majority of players. DNS represents the minority. Why is the minority in control of this game, you ask? Because the majority fail to act. The minority work together towards one common goal or purpose, whereas the majority are all scattered and bickering amongst themselves on a regular basis. You have the larger numbers, but you don't run in any sort of pack. It is unfair to blame someone like Sota for circumstances you have allowed yourselves to be put in. You want someone to fight for you, but at some point you need to be an independent force and fight for yourself. You want competition? Be competitive. You control whether or not you win or lose. It's not members of DNS playing your PC's for you. We are competitive, not invincible. Bring us a challenge! Do you think any of us are happy with easy wins? "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.

Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1609	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:01:00 - [111] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: B1ack ice wrote: I just have to say... Physical violence is for pussies. But physical violence is the only language men truly understand. So, what you're saying is this: Men think with their d!cks, but have no actual balls? Hmmmmm, I guess if that's the way you see it. Me personally, I'm a total vag, though, there was this guy whom I skilled and he tried to fight me, I sat in the corner and wet myself. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1071	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:14:00 - [112] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: I would smash your face through sheet rock as well, just sayin. lol the hell for? You guys take this game way more seriously then I do - paragraphs on the forums, words over a Skype call - that's as far as I go. Just don't **** with HvLP - because then I'll get serious ^_^ The facts are you are good at a video game. You use this skill to look and talk down to others -- people who have played just as much and have just as much invested in their corps and friends -- then wonder why people react negatively. If you ever spoke to me in real life like you speak to this forum, I, too, would pound your face in. That's how life outside your mom's basement goes....where your anonymity and condescension are safely hidden. If you believe I consider any of your persona's here an actual representation of your real personality, then you're either new to the internet or just enjoy tunnel vision. No one in this game is a bad person in real life, and I would take nothing said on a video game forum into reality to hurt someone over. As far as tone goes in real life - if I'm speaking to you like this, I'm probably already ready to smash your face in myself, so, uh, thx for the comparison? But this tone doesn't translate the same emotionally for me online as you would expect in reality, I'm much less emotionally involved here. When the screen turns off - so does any feelings for this forums, minimal as they already were. Only thing I care about is my Corp and my enjoyment of this game. I fully recognize and was pointing to the difference between forum games and real life. That said, I've found over the years that there are strong correlations between the two (i.e. in-game and in real life) -- and they tend to be inversely related. Said a bit more directly, those who talk a good forum game tend to not amount to much in real life. Having read your posts for a while now, I'll wager you are no different in this regard. Moving on, I find it curious and a bit hypocritical for you to draw the line at caring about "my Corp and my enjoyment of this game", yet fail to realize (or care?) your in-game and forum antics affect others in a negative way. That said, I doubt my posts will do much to change your awareness or behavior, but I do think it need to be said. Take care...Leadfoot
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:27:00 - [113] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: I would smash your face through sheet rock as well, just sayin. lol the hell for? You guys take this game way more seriously then I do - paragraphs on the forums, words over a Skype call - that's as far as I go. Just don't ** with HvLP - because then I'll get serious ^_^ The facts are you are good at a video game. You use this skill to look and talk down to others -- people who have played just as much and have just as much invested in their corps and friends -- then wonder why people react negatively. If you ever spoke to me in real life like you speak to this forum, I, too, would pound your face in. That's how life outside your mom's basement goes....where your anonymity and condescension are safely hidden. If you believe I consider any of your persona's here an actual representation of your real personality, then you're either new to the internet or just enjoy tunnel vision. No one in this game is a bad person in real life, and I would take nothing said on a video game forum into reality to hurt someone over. As far as tone goes in real life - if I'm speaking to you like this, I'm probably already ready to smash your face in myself, so, uh, thx for the comparison? But this tone doesn't translate the same emotionally for me online as you would expect in reality, I'm much less emotionally involved here. When the screen turns off - so does any feelings for this forums, minimal as they already were. Only thing I care about is my Corp and my enjoyment of this game. I fully recognize and was pointing to the difference between forum games and real life. That said, I've found over the years that there are strong correlations between the two (i.e. in-game and in real life) -- and they tend to be inversely related. Said a bit more directly, those who talk a good forum game tend to not amount to much in real life. Having read your posts for a while now, I'll wager you are no different in this regard. Moving on, I find it curious and a bit hypocritical for you to draw the line at caring about "my Corp and my enjoyment of this game", yet fail to realize (or care?) your in-game and forum antics affect others in a negative way. That said, I doubt my posts will do much to change your awareness or behavior, but I do think it need to be said. Take care...Leadfoot lol, who am I upsetting on the forums, honestly? If you read the content of my posts - I am on the communities side on everything, even against DNSBlack. But when you slander my group without basis - you will get return fire. If you want to judge me based on my arguments against slanderous commentors then do so, I do not give a flying ** about tunnel vision people. If anyone is willing to support your tunnel vision - then they aren't people I want to work with either. That is not to say I do not care what the community thinks - I do, but you can't expect me to sit here and take this.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2184	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:28:00 - [114] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Oh and by the way, trying to have a conversation with this fagg0t with your current "tags" is not going to go well. Current tags? I was trying to be nice but ***** you just started a flame war. And don't have the misconception that I'm nice cuz I'm far from it.. As for the term you used I don't like it and now I don't like you. Then again no one likes you so nothing new there. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 570	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:37:00 - [115] - Quote Ok Thor, I'll ask you this. What would you propose that we(DNS) do so that others can participate? Obviously the game should have a name change from Planetary Conquest to How the Community wants us to Play. I'm all eyes. Let me read what you want done. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1072	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:39:00 - [116] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: lol, who am I upsetting on the forums, honestly? If you read the content of my posts - I am on the communities side on everything, even against DNSBlack. But when you slander my group without basis - you will get return fire. If you want to judge me based on my arguments against slanderous commentors then do so, I do not give a flying **** about tunnel vision people. If anyone is willing to support your tunnel vision - then they aren't people I want to work with either. That is not to say I do not care what the community thinks - I do, but you can't expect me to sit here and take this. All I'm saying is you should consider choosing your words more wisely, even those who you dismiss as having "tunnel vision". I do salute you for speaking your mind on DNSBlack and AE, and of course you should fire back if fired upon. Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it, Sota.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:42:00 - [117] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: lol, who am I upsetting on the forums, honestly? If you read the content of my posts - I am on the communities side on everything, even against DNSBlack. But when you slander my group without basis - you will get return fire. If you want to judge me based on my arguments against slanderous commentors then do so, I do not give a flying **** about tunnel vision people. If anyone is willing to support your tunnel vision - then they aren't people I want to work with either. That is not to say I do not care what the community thinks - I do, but you can't expect me to sit here and take this. All I'm saying is you should consider choosing your words more wisely, even those who you dismiss as having "tunnel vision". Perhaps you don't care, but I am suggesting you should. I do salute you for speaking your mind on DNSBlack and AE, and of course you should fire back if fired upon -- but words and actions are two different things, and some can't get past your position and words. Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it, Sota. You're right, thank you for taking the time to share this with me. I will take it into consideration as I post from here on out.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1073	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:44:00 - [118] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Ok Thor, I'll ask you this. What would you propose that we(DNS) do so that others can participate? That's a very good question, and one that I've given quite a bit of thought to. However, you asked Thor, not me, so I'll allow him to respond before commenting further.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1073	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:44:00 - [119] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: lol, who am I upsetting on the forums, honestly? If you read the content of my posts - I am on the communities side on everything, even against DNSBlack. But when you slander my group without basis - you will get return fire. If you want to judge me based on my arguments against slanderous commentors then do so, I do not give a flying **** about tunnel vision people. If anyone is willing to support your tunnel vision - then they aren't people I want to work with either. That is not to say I do not care what the community thinks - I do, but you can't expect me to sit here and take this. All I'm saying is you should consider choosing your words more wisely, even those who you dismiss as having "tunnel vision". Perhaps you don't care, but I am suggesting you should. I do salute you for speaking your mind on DNSBlack and AE, and of course you should fire back if fired upon -- but words and actions are two different things, and some can't get past your position and words. Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it, Sota. You're right, thank you for taking the time to share this with me. I will take it into consideration as I post from here on out. Thank you for being open to the idea. I appreciate it.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:59:00 - [120] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Ok Thor, I'll ask you this. What would you propose that we(DNS) do so that others can participate? That's a very good question, and one that I've given quite a bit of thought to. However, you asked Thor, not me, so I'll allow him to respond before commenting further. He seems to of vanished, so I'll ask myself, what can DNS do?

Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1612	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:03:00 - [121] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Oh and by the way, trying to have a conversation with this fagg0t with your current "tags" is not going to go well. Current tags? I was trying to be nice but ***** you just started a flame war. And don't have the misconception that I'm nice cuz I'm far from it.. As for the term you used I don't like it and now I don't like you. Then again no one likes you so nothing new there. Heim, I never knew you hated the word conversation so much. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4616	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:06:00 - [122] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Youmadbroyolo wrote: Sota I remember you complaining about AE and you went and joined TP, now your on the same side as AE? Hypocrite to the max sota, I bet you glitch reload in matches now as well. Faith lost. Hey - AE - can you hear me? Go ** yourselves. You're not an alliance member, you're a *** virus who used us to keep FA off you, and had no idea what to do next without getting owned by combined ERA/FA/RND forces so you went with the DNS ball. You let your members leave corp to make alts to attack us - and you generally on everyone around you who isn't holding your e-peen up for you. You disobey alliance orders, and make decisions on your own even though it effects other groups in your alliance. Get your together, act like a corp in an alliance, or get the out. No offense, I had high high hopes with working with you guys, and at the start working with Kujo and Titus and Steel Dark Knight - I almost thought it possible. But it's clear as day to me now your leaders can't control your corp and AE will just on everything left and right because they can. Maybe you guys will pull through and actually start TALKING to the rest of the alliance you're in without needing a team from us first, but I doubt it. That's my PERSONAL** opinion, does that make you happy? Wow what a statement. Just curious how we should improve?
SteelDark Knight Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 353	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:11:00 - [123] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Stuff If there are alliance issues you wish to discuss Sota, please feel free to contact me directly. Preferably in-game so we can discuss real time. As you are well aware I don't do the meta/forum thing. A.E continues to support the Alliance effort to show CCP that current mechanics are flawed. As a result, in speaking with members of the current CPM those efforts have been noticed and have given the CPM the opportunity to present needed changes. If other assistance or action is required I am hopeful Alliance leadership will contact me through proper channels.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2189	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:12:00 - [124] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Oh and by the way, trying to have a conversation with this fagg0t with your current "tags" is not going to go well. Current tags? I was trying to be nice but ***** you just started a flame war. And don't have the misconception that I'm nice cuz I'm far from it.. As for the term you used I don't like it and now I don't like you. Then again no one likes you so nothing new there. Heim, I never knew you hated the word conversation so much. It pisses me off badly.. I do not like to converse Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 495	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:20:00 - [125] - Quote Don't know what to quote Defend your ways al you want slander al other its perfectly okey. It's kind of fun reading your post about how AWSOME you guys are. And how any one that aren't at your level dont have the right to speek. You are TOTALY in the blizz about this hole thing. How will new players get into this game when the game mechanics permits a selected few to TOTALY dominate the hole game. Your actuall own words shows that. You are saying no one is giving you epic fights so now you fight in FW against one and other That's kind of sums it upp Dust are slowly becoming a game for a selected few. You will notice in time when it's only you guys left in the game. As you said you only got god fights against FA and a few others. What happens you join forces insted and trying your best to justify by slandering everyone else. Now over to CCP In any business if you let a selected few customers dictate your product it will fail just because the fact that the majority will move to a new/better product . In short justify your ways al you want, slander any one else with a different opinion than your own at the end you will be in a lone place Regards War never changes
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 571	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:33:00 - [126] - Quote Again, everyone points fingers about the problems but none of you are offering up solutions. With that said, if you don't have a solution, then you are part of the problem. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2014.04.23 22:37:00 - [127] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Stuff If there are alliance issues you wish to discuss Sota, please feel free to contact me directly. Preferably in-game so we can discuss real time. As you are well aware I don't do the meta/forum thing. A.E continues to support the Alliance effort to show CCP that current mechanics are flawed. As a result, in speaking with members of the current CPM those efforts have been noticed and have given the CPM the opportunity to present needed changes. If other assistance or action is required I am hopeful Alliance leadership will contact me through proper channels. I posted my reply to you on Skype.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 934	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:10:00 - [128] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: OSG is an example of a Corp, and in some cases individual players, that simply off-ramped and are paying for it. We know that and arenGÇÖt whining about it; we are working to fix things on our end. HoweverGÇªyou not acknowledging the significant ways the playing field is stacked in your favor in many ways doesnGÇÖt make you any better than those pointing fingers and griping. Mechanics suck, sure, and give the edge to the group on the defense, which isn't all that strange when you think about it, they should find a real way to give defenders an advantage, I was thinking something a long the lines of purchasable items usable on districts that grant DPS/EHP/Speed bonuses to your team. But, i digress, the mechanics blows. *But what blows the most is how you guys want to segregate a group for trying to 'win' this game. How dare some of you?* ML especially has absolutely no room to talk down to DNS about what they're doing - And I hope they remember all the bs they're posting this month when they come asking for help 4 months down the line. But, either way, I'm glad to see a reasonable poster appear finally. I hadn't realized how far reaching DNSBlack hate really was. DNS Dust side has no intention of following what he said in the Podcast concerning the tournament bs. Or not working with the community. Quite the opposite in fact - the community NEEDS to be on board, we either sell it to you guys, or don't do it. One point, SoTa... I'm not "you guys". I don't speak for Thor and his team and my POV was only based on my personal observations and what I can speak of with my corp / alliance. I'm pretty sure I pointed that I have no issue with you achieving the level of sucess that you have - far from it, it's a solid accomplishment. My point is that many folks in DNS, and you on occaision, fail to acknowledge the inherent advantages that you have and simply say "get good". In my view that can be as bad as folks just pointing fingers at you and saying you're cheating (which you certainly aren't doing). Not trolling or poking...it is what it is. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:19:00 - [129] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: OSG is an example of a Corp, and in some cases individual players, that simply off-ramped and are paying for it. We know that and arenGÇÖt whining about it; we are working to fix things on our end. HoweverGÇªyou not acknowledging the significant ways the playing field is stacked in your favor in many ways doesnGÇÖt make you any better than those pointing fingers and griping. Mechanics suck, sure, and give the edge to the group on the defense, which isn't all that strange when you think about it, they should find a real way to give defenders an advantage, I was thinking something a long the lines of purchasable items usable on districts that grant DPS/EHP/Speed bonuses to your team. But, i digress, the mechanics blows. *But what blows the most is how you guys want to segregate a group for trying to 'win' this game. How dare some of you?* ML especially has absolutely no room to talk down to DNS about what they're doing - And I hope they remember all the bs they're posting this month when they come asking for help 4 months down the line. But, either way, I'm glad to see a reasonable poster appear finally. I hadn't realized how far reaching DNSBlack hate really was. DNS Dust side has no intention of following what he said in the Podcast concerning the tournament bs. Or not working with the community. Quite the opposite in fact - the community NEEDS to be on board, we either sell it to you guys, or don't do it. One point, SoTa... I'm not "you guys". I don't speak for Thor and his team and my POV was only based on my personal observations and what I can speak of with my corp / alliance. I'm pretty sure I pointed that I have no issue with you achieving the level of sucess that you have - far from it, it's a solid accomplishment. My point is that many folks in DNS, and you on occaision, fail to acknowledge the inherent advantages that you have and simply say "get good". In my view that can be as bad as folks just pointing fingers at you and saying you're cheating (which you certainly aren't doing). Not trolling or poking...it is what it is. You need to stop focusing on the obvious troll and focus on the real content of my posts.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 934	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:26:00 - [130] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: You need to stop focusing on the obvious troll and focus on the real content of my posts. I was only responding to the component I had issue with the post. I generally don't go for the trolling aspect so I'm kind of oblivious. I've found that a lot of folks have pretty keen perspenctive on things or at least valid points different from mine and it can quickly get lost with the forum sniping. That said, as much of a circus act the War Room is it can be a good spot for real discussion on how to imporve things. I appreciate your comments and hope you and DNS Dust actually follow through. My only concern is that the whole DNS Black thing blew back so bad that you might want to consider distancing yourself from him. SoTa Nap Squad (SNaP)??? "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen

Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2709	Posted - 2014.04.23 23:56:00 - [131] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: I just have to say... Physical violence is for pussies. (Insert Brutality **** Joke...) (A pun in and of itself...) Also Jaysyn, be patient, I'm not sure how to say it better but wait SNAP? That's a Welfare program in my state... I'd at least get a better name... I don't want to think food stamps when dealing with these guys... How to Leave PC
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3485	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:21:00 - [132] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Ok Thor, I'll ask you this. What would you propose that we(DNS) do so that others can participate? Obviously the game should have a name change from Planetary Conquest to How the Community wants us to Play. I'm all eyes. Let me read what you want done. Dude, you guys can have it all man, but don't all join up and wonder why nobody can compete with you. You left KEQ to hop on board the AE bandwagon. I don't blame guys for doing it, but don't ** all over everybody who hasn't abandoned the corp they came up in. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3485	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:25:00 - [133] - Quote Reading Sota's post about being pumped about working with AE and what they can accomplish boggles me. Who the HELL was this awesome stuff supposed to happen against? I mean really, what game is the dude playing? Is Outer Heaven that scary to Sota? Level 3 Forum Warrior
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2710	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:27:00 - [134] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Ok Thor, I'll ask you this. What would you propose that we(DNS) do so that others can participate? Obviously the game should have a name change from Planetary Conquest to How the Community wants us to Play. I'm all eyes. Let me read what you want done. Dude, you guys can have it all man, but don't all join up and wonder why nobody can compete with you. You left KEQ to hop on board the AE bandwagon. I don't blame guys for doing it, but don't **** all over everybody who hasn't abandoned the corp they came up in. Actually I'd have to say this is a rather logical assessment, but I'll give their response. "get good" How to Leave PC
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 49	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:37:00 - [135] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Reading Sota's post about being pumped about working with AE and what they can accomplish boggles me. Who the HELL was this awesome stuff supposed to happen against? I mean really, what game is the dude playing? Is Outer Heaven that scary to Sota? Oh, yes, terrifying. Please, save me from there clone packs and scout spam. What ever shall my HMG do? :D I had no idea wanting to work with people you've been fighting against for nearly a year was a bad thing. I was excited for the change, and to be reunited with old friends. Why is that worth trolling for you?
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 574	Posted - 2014.04.24 00:44:00 - [136] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Ok Thor, I'll ask you this. What would you propose that we(DNS) do so that others can participate? Obviously the game should have a name change from Planetary Conquest to How the Community wants us to Play. I'm all eyes. Let me read what you want done. Dude, you guys can have it all man, but don't all join up and wonder why nobody can compete with you. You left KEQ to hop on board the AE bandwagon. I don't blame guys for doing it, but don't **** all over everybody who hasn't abandoned the corp they came up in. LOL funny you would bring up me leaving KEQ to "bandwagon". If I am not mistaken AE didn't even own a district when I came over and there was not even 30 people in the Corp (AE). My time with KEQ was done. You can more than likely get them to verify that. I was not wanted anymore and I went to play with guys that I was currently playing with (Zbroadway/undeadsoldier). They no longer play. Saying I bandwagon jumped is far from the truth. I've not wondered why anyone can't compete, I could care less. The game is called Planetary Conquest. We are attempting to conquest it you could say. now don't say you don't care what we do, that would be an outright lie. There are enough posts with you and other ML whining and crying in them that says otherwise. If you didn't care you would just go play pubs and FW and keep on keeping on. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
shade emry3 OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 48	Posted - 2014.04.24 13:17:00 - [137] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Stuff If there are alliance issues you wish to discuss Sota, please feel free to contact me directly. Preferably in-game so we can discuss real time. As you are well aware I don't do the meta/forum thing. A.E continues to support the Alliance effort to show CCP that current mechanics are flawed. As a result, in speaking with members of the current CPM those efforts have been noticed and have given the CPM the opportunity to present needed changes. If other assistance or action is required I am hopeful Alliance leadership will contact me through proper channels. On that note, I do massive bug hunting, and its no secret that AE are the ones to follow to find these issues. Perhaps we can meet in game so that I may be able to see what you guys have found so far and get some bug reports pushed fixed possibly?
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3489	Posted - 2014.04.24 13:33:00 - [138] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Reading Sota's post about being pumped about working with AE and what they can accomplish boggles me. Who the HELL was this awesome stuff supposed to happen against? I mean really, what game is the dude playing? Is Outer Heaven that scary to Sota? Oh, yes, terrifying. Please, save me from there clone packs and scout spam. What ever shall my HMG do? :D I had no idea wanting to work with people you've been fighting against for nearly a year was a bad thing. I was excited for the change, and to be reunited with old friends. Why is that worth trolling for you? For the 1000th time, it's fine that you guys all reunited but don't sugar coat it as some preparation for some great war to come. As long as you are all united there won't be anything of note happening. I don't believe that it's necessarily you or your alliance's problem, but it's reality. The vast majority of Dust is nowhere near being able to compete with even the low rung PC corps, much less a conglomerate of the most dominate PC teams we've seen over the last year. It's ridiculous to expect the elite portion of the playerbase to show restraint, but that was the only way PC was going to evolve into something vibrant and exciting. Who knows what the situation would be if there was some form of team deploy to elevate team play within the masses, but that's not the case. If you don't agree with this last statement then there is no point in talking with you. Level 3 Forum Warrior
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 62	Posted - 2014.04.24 14:22:00 - [139] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Reading Sota's post about being pumped about working with AE and what they can accomplish boggles me. Who the HELL was this awesome stuff supposed to happen against? I mean really, what game is the dude playing? Is Outer Heaven that scary to Sota? Oh, yes, terrifying. Please, save me from there clone packs and scout spam. What ever shall my HMG do? :D I had no idea wanting to work with people you've been fighting against for nearly a year was a bad thing. I was excited for the change, and to be reunited with old friends. Why is that worth trolling for you? For the 1000th time, it's fine that you guys all reunited but don't sugar coat it as some preparation for some great war to come. As long as you are all united there won't be anything of note happening. I don't believe that it's necessarily you or your alliance's problem, but it's reality. The vast majority of Dust is nowhere near being able to compete with even the low rung PC corps, much less a conglomerate of the most dominate PC teams we've seen over the last year. It's ridiculous to expect the elite portion of the playerbase to show restraint, but that was the only way PC was going to evolve into something vibrant and exciting. Who knows what the situation would be if there was some form of team deploy to elevate team play within the masses, but that's not the case. If you don't agree with this last statement then there is no point in talking with you. Excuse me, you're a PC corp who is not preparing for war - that is your problem. That is not ours. You want to be butt hurt that even after being on top we're still thinking about what comes next? Shesh, I'm sorry I ever apologized to an ******* like you, I had no clue you were this far gone in your hater-aid. See yourself out of my thread, scrub. I'm done talking to a wall who wants to fill my room with tears.
Roofer Madness 1077	Posted - 2014.04.24 14:26:00 - [140] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I have yet to find a real source to this animosity towards DNS. Just more tears and excuses why corps didn't do anything for a year to keep up with competition. OK, here is my very REAL reason: I like to stir ** up. And I thought a lot more people were like me. Anytime people have plans to do something, especially in a troll-based war game, there should be other people trying to it up. Pain and simple. It's just that anarchist spirit inside me. I'm not butthurt and I don't care about ISK or any of the other dumb ass arguments people use. I don't care about ringers and I don't care about EVE. I just want to shoot face and up. I joined up with a corp that I knew was on the same page and since then I've got some damn good fights. I will admit being unsuccessful in said "plan to ** up plans" is frustrating as all hell. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.

bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 578	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:16:00 - [141] - Quote And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:20:00 - [142] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3494	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:20:00 - [143] - Quote The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well. And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. Level 3 Forum Warrior
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 578	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:22:00 - [144] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. Then we are back to fighting each other every night like before while others reap the bigger rewards. Doesn't matter to me but I prefer to make ISK. It won't come easy forever. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 578	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:23:00 - [145] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well. And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:27:00 - [146] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. Then we are back to fighting each other every night like before while others reap the bigger rewards. Doesn't matter to me but I prefer to make ISK. It won't come easy forever. And as they reap rewards they have ISK to give others, to revive the community and spread the ISK love out some more. It's very condensed right now. Not too mention without the community holding ISK what content is there for us? I'm all for smacking the community when they forget there place in the competitive sections of this game, but I'm not up for strangling them into submission. It's one thing to remind someone they're a scrub - it's another to take away there ability to compete then call them a scrub.
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 579	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:30:00 - [147] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. Then we are back to fighting each other every night like before while others reap the bigger rewards. Doesn't matter to me but I prefer to make ISK. It won't come easy forever. And as they reap rewards they have ISK to give others, to revive the community and spread the ISK love out some more. It's very condensed right now. Not too mention without the community holding ISK what content is there for us? I'm all for smacking the community when they forget there place in the competitive sections of this game, but I'm not up for strangling them into submission. It's one thing to remind someone they're a scrub - it's another to take away there ability to compete then call them a scrub. I'm not calling them anything. I'm just getting my ISK. If someone from DNS sent most of these Corps an invite they would join right up. Now your self-righteous finger points won't, just to save face but run of the mill Corps and single mercs would in a second. Don't believe me, start a recruiting thread offering "X" amount of ISK per week as an incentive. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 579	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:31:00 - [148] - Quote Oh, and I tried spreading the ISK Love one night. I gave everyone in my squad 5 million ISK except for one guy so they could run proto all night. Played two matches and one guy left to get on his alt and not come back and the others left one match after that. ******* charity is over. I won't say these were KEQ guys either. I'll keep the Corp they were in under wraps. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:33:00 - [149] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. Then we are back to fighting each other every night like before while others reap the bigger rewards. Doesn't matter to me but I prefer to make ISK. It won't come easy forever. And as they reap rewards they have ISK to give others, to revive the community and spread the ISK love out some more. It's very condensed right now. Not too mention without the community holding ISK what content is there for us? I'm all for smacking the community when they forget there place in the competitive sections of this game, but I'm not up for strangling them into submission. It's one thing to remind someone they're a scrub - it's another to take away there ability to compete then call them a scrub. I'm not calling them anything. I'm just getting my ISK. If someone from DNS sent most of these Corps an invite they would join right up. Now your self-righteous finger points won't, just to save face but run of the mill Corps and single mercs would in a second. Don't believe me, start a recruiting thread offering "X" amount of ISK per week as an incentive. When DNS is strangling the community I would assume people would be a little more willing to work for ISK. There's not much of it going around outside our alliance. Which is a problem imo. Shame there isn't someway to align your corp with an FW faction in an honest way - and get a steady income from supporting that empire so you don't have to tax your guys or participate in PC to get ISK. But that would be abused heavily lol
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:39:00 - [150] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Oh, and I tried spreading the ISK Love one night. I gave everyone in my squad 5 million ISK except for one guy so they could run proto all night. Played two matches and one guy left to get on his alt and not come back and the others left one match after that. ******* charity is over. I won't say these were KEQ guys either. I'll keep the Corp they were in under wraps. lol my wallets gone, man. HvLP sucked me dry. My payroll goes directly to corp wallet, lol. Lend me 50mil?

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3496	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:43:00 - [151] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. The participation levels of corps that have participated in PC in the last few months are still too low for anything to really change. In other words it would still just be you guys fighting no matter what. You say I'm whining, but the facts of the matter are that it really doesn't matter all that much if you guys are aligned or if you guys are mercs. There just isn't enough interest from the playerbase. And as I've also said multiple times it's ridiculous to ask for the elite players of the game to show restraint. This is CCP's fault. Releasing PC without a low risk form of team deploy killed any chance of PC being successful. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3496	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:45:00 - [152] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well. And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. Level 3 Forum Warrior
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2014.04.24 15:57:00 - [153] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well. And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel. HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ******* players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in. Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3502	Posted - 2014.04.24 16:40:00 - [154] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well. And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel. HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ***** players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in. Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O Shoot me a message in game, I don't know if you've got zeros or whatever instead of o's in your name and you are always banned. Level 3 Forum Warrior**
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2208	Posted - 2014.04.24 17:31:00 - [155] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. Then we are back to fighting each other every night like before while others reap the bigger rewards. Doesn't matter to me but I prefer to make ISK. It won't come easy forever. I don't make isk either way soo Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 79	Posted - 2014.04.24 17:45:00 - [156] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well. And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel. HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ******* players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in. Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O Shoot me a message in game, I don't know if you've got zeros or whatever instead of o's in your name and you are always banned. sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2209	Posted - 2014.04.24 18:28:00 - [157] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well. And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel. HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ******* players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in. Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O Shoot me a message in game, I don't know if you've got zeros or whatever instead of o's in your name and you are always banned. sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things.[/quote] I'm game Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 939	Posted - 2014.04.24 18:32:00 - [158] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things. SoTa, Thor... If you guys are serious about looking at ways to get all facets of the community to work towards unified ways to make the game better I would like to help. It's hard to fight through the meta and "in game" slap fights for folks to see that many of the top tier PC corps genuinely want the game to get better and community to grow just like it's difficult for those guys to see everyone elses position and what they are trying to do to get better. I'm all about competitive play, meta fun, and all that jazz.... however, at the core though we are all in the game togther and frankly we wouldn't be here if we didn't want (or at least hope) it to get better. Shoot me a note; we can link up in-game or skype. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2714	Posted - 2014.04.24 20:49:00 - [159] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I'm game A 4-way perhaps? Hell get Jaysyn and Xel and we'd have a proper [Explicit] squad How to Leave PC
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 94	Posted - 2014.04.24 20:55:00 - [160] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things. SoTa, Thor... If you guys are serious about looking at ways to get all facets of the community to work towards unified ways to make the game better I would like to help. It's hard to fight through the meta and "in game" slap fights for folks to see that many of the top tier PC corps genuinely want the game to get better and community to grow just like it's difficult for those guys to see everyone elses position and what they are trying to do to get better. I'm all about competitive play, meta fun, and all that jazz.... however, at the core though we are all in the game togther and frankly we wouldn't be here if we didn't want (or at least hope) it to get better. Shoot me a note; we can link up in-game or skype. When I get on later I will shoot both of you a message, as well as a few other choice people. I think if we all had a sit down and discuss next possible moves we could start to see a sunset for once.

Everything Dies Inner.Hell 680	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:21:00 - [161] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good. If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles. Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players. Just my two cents. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 109	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:25:00 - [162] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good. If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles. Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players. Just my two cents. I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1309	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:33:00 - [163] - Quote enjoy we all need a smile I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 203	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:41:00 - [164] - Quote noob cavman wrote: enjoy we all need a smile \o/ Thanks Noob! <3 I know I definitely needed to smile.... cuteness overload. Have you seen "Singin' in the Rain"? "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1313	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:46:00 - [165] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: noob cavman wrote: enjoy we all need a smile \o/ Thanks Noob! <3 I know I definitely needed to smile.... cuteness overload. Have you seen "Singing in the Rain"? Indeed im a sucker for feel good films from time to time \o/ I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 109	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:47:00 - [166] - Quote noob cavman wrote: enjoy we all need a smile ... the heck did I just watch... it actually got pretty cool 1:30 in....
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 204	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:50:00 - [167] - Quote noob cavman wrote: B1ack ice wrote: noob cavman wrote: enjoy we all need a smile \o/ Thanks Noob! <3 I know I definitely needed to smile.... cuteness overload. Have you seen "Singing in the Rain"? Indeed im a sucker for feel good films from time to time \o/ My Favorite part of the movie: Make Em' Laugh "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 115	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:51:00 - [168] - Quote This actually really damn cute. But the ending - she looks lonely. :'(
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1314	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:52:00 - [169] - Quote Did you watch past the credits? I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 941	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:53:00 - [170] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Everything Dies wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good. If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles. *Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players.* Just my two cents. I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D Ah, but the third paragraph is the trick isn't it? That little game mechanic feeds a lot of the current problems and if deployment capacity or movement logisitcs mattered more it would change the environment overnight. You could still run a very brisk and profitable merc business but have a lot more folks able to participate in some form or fashion. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen

B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 204	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:55:00 - [171] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Did you watch past the credits? Yeah Sota... did you watch past the credits?! "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 115	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:01:00 - [172] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Everything Dies wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good. If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles. *Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players.* Just my two cents. I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D Ah, but the third paragraph is the trick isn't it? That little game mechanic feeds a lot of the current problems and if deployment capacity or movement logisitcs mattered more it would change the environment overnight. You could still run a very brisk and profitable merc business but have a lot more folks able to participate in some form or fashion. It would be to everyones benefit at this point if numbers could matter. It would mean you could field 4-5 games of your 300 guys yourself, and when tough and important games come, hire NF. There'd be a lot more readily available matches for the merc groups - and empires get to train themselves, grow, and enjoy PC. At first, the vet groups feared such things. Skill > numbers!!!! But now we've hit the point that any change would move us into a positive direction.
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1315	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:02:00 - [173] - Quote Also black yes I do love that part x) I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 115	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:08:00 - [174] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Also black yes I do love that part x) Yes, I watched the credits and saw her brimming with happiness. But she still gave such a sad, "Oh, right, life sucks." look at the end when the shoes stopped working - depressed you a little. :(
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1316	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:10:00 - [175] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: noob cavman wrote: Also black yes I do love that part x) Yes, I watched the credits and saw her brimming with happiness. But she still gave such a sad, "Oh, right, life sucks." look at the end when the shoes stopped working - depressed you a little. :( I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 205	Posted - 2014.04.24 22:15:00 - [176] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: noob cavman wrote: Also black yes I do love that part x) Yes, I watched the credits and saw her brimming with happiness. But she still gave such a sad, "Oh, right, life sucks." look at the end when the shoes stopped working - depressed you a little. :( Well, you know what they say... There's no place like home. Ruby slippers... damn you! "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
The-Beard 182	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:47:00 - [177] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. Give us blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon. Doesn't really have to be in that order either. Before you get tiny nuts all twisted and start whatever blah blah rant, you asked anyone to answer what we would like DNS to do for everyone. To be honest, I couldn't care less if it's DNS, CCP, ML, OH or anyone else that gives them to everyone... I just like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon. Question answered for you? I laugh at DNS every time someone tells the community to "be competitive". Which corp in DNS is the most competitive? None. How can I say that? Easy, neither of you guys fight the best with something of value on the line. So, next question, which corp in DNS is the best PC corp? Unknown. Now, there will be a lot of talk back and forth about who is the best, but really how will one know if the best only fight each other in FW matches? Nothing of value is on the line. Isk you say? No, because their districts will just replace it. The only real way to figure out who the best is, is to fight each other in PC, take over the district, and keep it. Then and only then will you find out which of the DNS corps is really the best. Also, by doing just that DNS will actually practice what they preach and "be competitive". You want the community to "get good"? Sure, but it takes time and isk. Time we have, isk we don't. Unlike DNS, the community doesn't have billions of isk coming in every day to spend. So, unless DNS is going to start giving 10's of millions of isk to the community so that they can spend it on suits and crap packs to attack you guys and "get good", quit crying like a whiny child. Makes you look dumb. Now what is this prepping you speak of? This next war that is clearly going to be against yourselves. I say that since you already cry about the community not putting out against you, so really, who is gonna fight this next war that has you prepping for it? It has to be each other since I really doubt there is an undercover super duper alliance thats gonna magic missle DNS and give them a run for their isk. Really DNS, quit the crying, quit the lame as* reasoning you guys claim and just STFU and HTFU cause ya'll coming off like a bunch rich kid cry babies that are mad no one wants to play with them.
The-Beard 182	Posted - 2014.04.25 10:00:00 - [178] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I'm not calling them anything. I'm just getting my ISK. If someone from DNS sent most of these Corps an invite they would join right up. Now your self-righteous finger points won't, just to save face but run of the mill Corps and single mercs would in a second. Don't believe me, start a recruiting thread offering "X" amount of ISK per week as an incentive. I been offer'd to join a lot of corps, some with isk salaries, some just starting up and some that are known like VC, Anonymous (which died ) and NC/NS.. I refused all of them. The NC/NS offer was made 2 or 3 weeks ago. I can't say I speak for ML, but I will anyways since I'm an as*hole... offer denied. If you delete your main and all your alts via live stream, maybe, just maybe we might consider joining the blue donut. Just hold your breath while you delete them.
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1328	Posted - 2014.04.25 13:44:00 - [179] - Quote Anonymous has moved to HvLP now I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 683	Posted - 2014.04.25 15:28:00 - [180] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D My thinking was this: A PC battle should, in essence, be a skirmish match with an even amount of clones on each side (let's assume 150.) Bringing in a non-alliance member to ring should deduct 5 clones from your clone count, whereas an alliance member could cost 2 or 3. So a merc corporation (outside of the alliance) that supplied all 16 players for a match would have only 70 clones vs. the opponent's 150. Even that might not be enough of a penalty to stop the uber-deathsquads from securing the win, but it should make things much more interesting for more evenly-matched corps. Other things: A clone pack should place the attacker on equal footing with the defender for the battle. So if you had a district with 450 clones or whatever, the actual battle would be between the same number of clones in the clone pack (again, 150 as a hypothetical example.) If the attacking side wins, they can either press the attack with whatever clones they had left from the battle or restock with another clone pack. Pressing the attack would ensure that another corporation couldn't launch an attack on the weakened enemy, whereas using a clone pack resupply could result in a small timer penalty that opens up a window of opportunity for other corps to snipe an attack. Either way, the district isn't lost until the defender's clone count reaches zero. This--combined with relatively cheap prices for a clone pack--would enable the large, lower-quality corporations to wage wars of attrition against stronger opposition. For the defending side, districts should restock at least one battle's worth of clones each day while providing ISK revenue. I honestly don't know what sort of amounts are currently involved with district ownership, so I'll have to defer to those of you that are currently involved in PC to figure out a reasonable amount of ISK that helps cover losses incurred without becoming ISK farms. Thoughts? Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.

SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 128	Posted - 2014.04.25 17:49:00 - [181] - Quote The-Beard wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. Give us blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon. Doesn't really have to be in that order either. Before you get tiny nuts all twisted and start whatever blah blah rant, you asked anyone to answer what we would like DNS to do for everyone. To be honest, I couldn't care less if it's DNS, CCP, ML, OH or anyone else that gives them to everyone... I just like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon. Question answered for you? I laugh at DNS every time someone tells the community to "be competitive". Which corp in DNS is the most competitive? None. How can I say that? Easy, neither of you guys fight the best with something of value on the line. So, next question, which corp in DNS is the best PC corp? Unknown. Now, there will be a lot of talk back and forth about who is the best, but really how will one know if the best only fight each other in FW matches? Nothing of value is on the line. Isk you say? No, because their districts will just replace it. The only real way to figure out who the best is, is to fight each other in PC, take over the district, and keep it. Then and only then will you find out which of the DNS corps is really the best. Also, by doing just that DNS will actually practice what they preach and "be competitive". You want the community to "get good"? Sure, but it takes time and isk. Time we have, isk we don't. Unlike DNS, the community doesn't have billions of isk coming in every day to spend. So, unless DNS is going to start giving 10's of millions of isk to the community so that they can spend it on suits and crap packs to attack you guys and "get good", quit crying like a whiny child. Makes you look dumb. Now what is this prepping you speak of? This next war that is clearly going to be against yourselves. I say that since you already cry about the community not putting out against you, so really, who is gonna fight this next war that has you prepping for it? It has to be each other since I really doubt there is an undercover super duper alliance thats gonna magic missle DNS and give them a run for their isk. Really DNS, quit the crying, quit the lame as* reasoning you guys claim and just STFU and HTFU cause ya'll coming off like a bunch rich kid cry babies that are mad no one wants to play with them. Man I hate posts like these, filled with meta and tears. Nothing was even said. I bet he copied and pasted this from 3 other threads and pretended it was his original rage/tear post.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1631	Posted - 2014.04.25 17:56:00 - [182] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: The-Beard wrote: bigolenuts wrote: And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question. What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone? Anyone answer it. Give us blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon. Doesn't really have to be in that order either. Before you get tiny nuts all twisted and start whatever blah blah rant, you asked anyone to answer what we would like DNS to do for everyone. To be honest, I couldn't care less if it's DNS, CCP, ML, OH or anyone else that gives them to everyone... I just like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon. Question answered for you? I laugh at DNS every time someone tells the community to "be competitive". Which corp in DNS is the most competitive? None. How can I say that? Easy, neither of you guys fight the best with something of value on the line. So, next question, which corp in DNS is the best PC corp? Unknown. Now, there will be a lot of talk back and forth about who is the best, but really how will one know if the best only fight each other in FW matches? Nothing of value is on the line. Isk you say? No, because their districts will just replace it. The only real way to figure out who the best is, is to fight each other in PC, take over the district, and keep it. Then and only then will you find out which of the DNS corps is really the best. Also, by doing just that DNS will actually practice what they preach and "be competitive". You want the community to "get good"? Sure, but it takes time and isk. Time we have, isk we don't. Unlike DNS, the community doesn't have billions of isk coming in every day to spend. So, unless DNS is going to start giving 10's of millions of isk to the community so that they can spend it on suits and crap packs to attack you guys and "get good", quit crying like a whiny child. Makes you look dumb. Now what is this prepping you speak of? This next war that is clearly going to be against yourselves. I say that since you already cry about the community not putting out against you, so really, who is gonna fight this next war that has you prepping for it? It has to be each other since I really doubt there is an undercover super duper alliance thats gonna magic missle DNS and give them a run for their isk. Really DNS, quit the crying, quit the lame as* reasoning you guys claim and just STFU and HTFU cause ya'll coming off like a bunch rich kid cry babies that are mad no one wants to play with them. Man I hate posts like these, filled with meta and tears. Nothing was even said. I bet he copied and pasted this from 3 other threads and pretended it was his original rage/tear post. I would ask for a TL;DR version, but you just gave one. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 129	Posted - 2014.04.25 18:04:00 - [183] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D My thinking was this: A PC battle should, in essence, be a skirmish match with an even amount of clones on each side (let's assume 150.) Bringing in a non-alliance member to ring should deduct 5 clones from your clone count, whereas an alliance member could cost 2 or 3. So a merc corporation (outside of the alliance) that supplied all 16 players for a match would have only 70 clones vs. the opponent's 150. Even that might not be enough of a penalty to stop the uber-deathsquads from securing the win, but it should make things much more interesting for more evenly-matched corps. Other things: A clone pack should place the attacker on equal footing with the defender for the battle. So if you had a district with 450 clones or whatever, the actual battle would be between the same number of clones in the clone pack (again, 150 as a hypothetical example.) If the attacking side wins, they can either press the attack with whatever clones they had left from the battle or restock with another clone pack. Pressing the attack would ensure that another corporation couldn't launch an attack on the weakened enemy, whereas using a clone pack resupply could result in a small timer penalty that opens up a window of opportunity for other corps to snipe an attack. Either way, the district isn't lost until the defender's clone count reaches zero. This--combined with relatively cheap prices for a clone pack--would enable the large, lower-quality corporations to wage wars of attrition against stronger opposition. For the defending side, districts should restock at least one battle's worth of clones each day while providing ISK revenue. I honestly don't know what sort of amounts are currently involved with district ownership, so I'll have to defer to those of you that are currently involved in PC to figure out a reasonable amount of ISK that helps cover losses incurred without becoming ISK farms. Thoughts? First paragraph: I am completely against 'even' playing fields in a war game. It's up to both sides to create that themselves. The fact everyone is trying to get an edge on one another adds a layer of flavor to this game you can't find anywhere else. That is a step towards CoD and BF4 and I will be very adamant against any ideas such these. I also am sick of skirmish and want a new game mode that actually 'feels' like a battle. It makes no sense that the defenders aren't already set up on there own land. I want to take it from them - not just skirmish them as if we were in a pub game. Lack of different game mode also turns people off in entering PC since it's literally just the same thing - just with tryhards. Second paragraph: Clone packs definitely need a huge over-all. Instead of 'equal footing' like you keep suggesting, it should be options of how many you want to buy/send/commit. If you want to just harass - 120 clone pack. If you're looking to just win a single battle - 150 clone pack. If you're looking to flip - 300 clone pack. And in a game where we're all suppose to be 'mercs' it sort of goes against lore/point of game to limit/penalize people for using mercenaries.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 216	Posted - 2014.04.25 18:15:00 - [184] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Everything Dies wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D My thinking was this: A PC battle should, in essence, be a skirmish match with an even amount of clones on each side (let's assume 150.) Bringing in a non-alliance member to ring should deduct 5 clones from your clone count, whereas an alliance member could cost 2 or 3. So a merc corporation (outside of the alliance) that supplied all 16 players for a match would have only 70 clones vs. the opponent's 150. Even that might not be enough of a penalty to stop the uber-deathsquads from securing the win, but it should make things much more interesting for more evenly-matched corps. Other things: A clone pack should place the attacker on equal footing with the defender for the battle. So if you had a district with 450 clones or whatever, the actual battle would be between the same number of clones in the clone pack (again, 150 as a hypothetical example.) If the attacking side wins, they can either press the attack with whatever clones they had left from the battle or restock with another clone pack. Pressing the attack would ensure that another corporation couldn't launch an attack on the weakened enemy, whereas using a clone pack resupply could result in a small timer penalty that opens up a window of opportunity for other corps to snipe an attack. Either way, the district isn't lost until the defender's clone count reaches zero. This--combined with relatively cheap prices for a clone pack--would enable the large, lower-quality corporations to wage wars of attrition against stronger opposition. For the defending side, districts should restock at least one battle's worth of clones each day while providing ISK revenue. I honestly don't know what sort of amounts are currently involved with district ownership, so I'll have to defer to those of you that are currently involved in PC to figure out a reasonable amount of ISK that helps cover losses incurred without becoming ISK farms. Thoughts? First paragraph: I am completely against 'even' playing fields in a war game. It's up to both sides to create that themselves. The fact everyone is trying to get an edge on one another adds a layer of flavor to this game you can't find anywhere else. That is a step towards CoD and BF4 and I will be very adamant against any ideas such these. I also am sick of skirmish and want a new game mode that actually 'feels' like a battle. It makes no sense that the defenders aren't already set up on there own land. I want to take it from them - not just skirmish them as if we were in a pub game. Lack of different game mode also turns people off in entering PC since it's literally just the same thing - just with tryhards. Second paragraph: Clone packs definitely need a huge over-all. Instead of 'equal footing' like you keep suggesting, it should be options of how many you want to buy/send/commit. If you want to just harass - 120 clone pack. If you're looking to just win a single battle - 150 clone pack. If you're looking to flip - 300 clone pack. And in a game where we're all suppose to be 'mercs' it sort of goes against lore/point of game to limit/penalize people for using mercenaries. Defenders getting both clones regen and ISK is also something I'll never support - a district should keep producing just clones till it max - then at that point start producing ISK depending on the amount of clones it would of produced. Which is currently how the system works. Definitely agree on this. I've been wondering why there's only one game mode in PC myself. It's not logical that PC only comes in the form of skirmish and you have two other different types of game mode for pub matches. Considering that this is a PC game, pub matches should, in some part, prepare you for or reflect upon PC matches. In all honesty though, nothing CCP does is logical. I guess my biggest problem with skirmish is that there is so much ground to cover and my obstacle is never when I'm actually on an objective, but when I'm travelling to and from each point. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
The-Beard 185	Posted - 2014.04.25 18:53:00 - [185] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Other things: A clone pack should place the attacker on equal footing with the defender for the battle. So if you had a district with 450 clones or whatever, the actual battle would be between the same number of clones in the clone pack (again, 150 as a hypothetical example.) If the attacking side wins, they can either press the attack with whatever clones they had left from the battle or restock with another clone pack. Pressing the attack would ensure that another corporation couldn't launch an attack on the weakened enemy, whereas using a clone pack resupply could result in a small timer penalty that opens up a window of opportunity for other corps to snipe an attack. Either way, the district isn't lost until the defender's clone count reaches zero. This--combined with relatively cheap prices for a clone pack--would enable the large, lower-quality corporations to wage wars of attrition against stronger opposition. Thoughts? Thought on the under lined part: Cheap clone packs would be nice, but at the same time very bad. As is, the current price of clone packs are cheap to the older corps already. This combined with the clone loss of shipping them at distances makes it more wise to just buy a pack and attack. The older corps would see this as "why ship clones and leave the district at a loss when we can just buy a cheap pack and then make it back after we flip the district?". I will say I like the idea of a cheaper pack, if only tier'd like "X" amount of isk for 120 clones, "X" amount for 150, and "X" amount of 170 clones. That would be a bit better IMO.
The-Beard 185	Posted - 2014.04.25 19:15:00 - [186] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Man I hate posts like these, filled with meta and tears. Nothing was even said. I bet he copied and pasted this from 3 other threads and pretended it was his original rage/tear post. That was it? I tell DNS to quit crying like a whiny child and my post somehow has rage and tears in it? You're not so good at trolling. You and darrith (oops ) need to do better, this didn't make me laugh at all, just smh in disappointment at both of you. Oh, right let my guess rage and tears in this one too right? Come bra (oops ) give me some giggles. Talk to sapphire or what ever his name is.. that dude had me rolling in local the other night. Quote from him "If I got every chick I fcked pregnant, I would have twice the population of china in babies." That was when he flipped out over me calling his anus virgin turf for me. He went on and on for probably 30 mins.. pretty funny sht to laugh at. Also I would like to point out, I am not trolling, but would very much like some trolling to be done here.. This the war room, WHY SO SERIOUS?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5dP_83O7o
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 137	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:11:00 - [187] - Quote The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Man I hate posts like these, filled with meta and tears. Nothing was even said. I bet he copied and pasted this from 3 other threads and pretended it was his original rage/tear post. That was it? I tell DNS to quit crying like a whiny child and my post somehow has rage and tears in it? You're not so good at trolling. You and darrith (oops ) need to do better, this didn't make me laugh at all, just smh in disappointment at both of you. Oh, right let my guess rage and tears in this one too right? Come bra (oops ) give me some giggles. Talk to sapphire or what ever his name is.. that dude had me rolling in local the other night. Quote from him "If I got every chick I fcked pregnant, I would have twice the population of china in babies." That was when he flipped out over me calling his anus virgin turf for me. He went on and on for probably 30 mins.. pretty funny sht to laugh at. Also I would like to point out, I am not trolling, but would very much like some trolling to be done here.. This the war room, WHY SO SERIOUS?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5dP_83O7o Wait, what? You respond to a, "What should we do" post with a, "Blow me" and then want to pretend you're not raging and crying?????? I don't need to troll you, you're doing it yourself. o.0 "How will we know whose the best if they're only fighting in FW?" - lol really? Being is being in PC a different game mode for you or something? 16 vs 16 full corps on both sides in FW = same thing as PC, but with more maps.... so arguably, a better thing to do, matches are even too, besides maps themselves giving an edge to one side over the other. So you can tell with an even clearer picture which teams the better one.
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1350	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:26:00 - [188] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Man I hate posts like these, filled with meta and tears. Nothing was even said. I bet he copied and pasted this from 3 other threads and pretended it was his original rage/tear post. That was it? I tell DNS to quit crying like a whiny child and my post somehow has rage and tears in it? You're not so good at trolling. You and darrith (oops ) need to do better, this didn't make me laugh at all, just smh in disappointment at both of you. Oh, right let my guess rage and tears in this one too right? Come bra (oops ) give me some giggles. Talk to sapphire or what ever his name is.. that dude had me rolling in local the other night. Quote from him "If I got every chick I fcked pregnant, I would have twice the population of china in babies." That was when he flipped out over me calling his anus virgin turf for me. He went on and on for probably 30 mins.. pretty funny sht to laugh at. Also I would like to point out, I am not trolling, but would very much like some trolling to be done here.. This the war room, WHY SO SERIOUS?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5dP_83O7o Wait, what? You respond to a, "What should we do" post with a, "Blow me" and then want to pretend you're not raging and crying?????? I don't need to troll you, you're doing it yourself. o.0 "How will we know whose the best if they're only fighting in FW?" - lol really? Being is being in PC a different game mode for you or something? 16 vs 16 full corps on both sides in FW = same thing as PC, but with more maps.... so arguably, a better thing to do, matches are even too, besides maps themselves giving an edge to one side over the other. So you can tell with an even clearer picture which teams the better one. 16 vs 16 in fw is much, much more fun. Less pressure for one, equal clone count, no real political motive, more maps, more open choice in what you want to use in the match, less tension about the win and more focused on the fun factor. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 685	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:27:00 - [189] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: First paragraph: I am completely against 'even' playing fields in a war game. It's up to both sides to create that themselves. The fact everyone is trying to get an edge on one another adds a layer of flavor to this game you can't find anywhere else. That is a step towards CoD and BF4 and I will be very adamant against any ideas such these. I fully understand your viewpoint, I'm just arguing how such an uneven playing field only exacerbates the problem of top-tier corps v smaller ones--i.e. if your corp can crush an enemy with clones even at 100 v 100, it doesn't do any good to make it 100 v 250. That's why I propose the "even" battle taking place while the defending side have a stockpile of clones in reserve. Capturing a district would take a sustained effort (or the ability to take advantage of a lull in attack from one corp to come in and snipe the district with your own corp!) SoTasLost Property wrote: I also am sick of skirmish and want a new game mode that actually 'feels' like a battle. It makes no sense that the defenders aren't already set up on there own land. I want to take it from them - not just skirmish them as if we were in a pub game. Lack of different game mode also turns people off in entering PC since it's literally just the same thing - just with tryhards. Fair enough. Until a new mode is actually introduced, would skirmish-style be preferable to ambush or domination-style matches? SoTasLost Property wrote: Second paragraph: Clone packs definitely need a huge over-all. Instead of 'equal footing' like you keep suggesting, it should be options of how many you want to buy/send/commit. If you want to just harass - 120 clone pack. If you're looking to just win a single battle - 150 clone pack. If you're looking to flip - 300 clone pack. My only concern with this idea is that it's still placing one side at a huge disadvantage in terms of ability to fight any sort of sustained battle. It's obviously going to be easier for the already-rich corps to snatch up the 300 clone packs and throw wave after wave of them (like it'd even be necessary!) at corps that could only afford the smaller packs. Perhaps there could be limits or something that would prevent such a scenario? SoTasLost Property wrote: And in a game where we're all suppose to be 'mercs' it sort of goes against lore/point of game to limit/penalize people for using mercenaries. My argument would be, "Can you really consider yourself a mercenary if you're a member of a corporation?" Lore or not, there needs to be some of disincentive to paying for an almost-guaranteed victory. SoTasLost Property wrote: Defenders getting both clones regen and ISK is also something I'll never support - a district should keep producing just clones till it max - then at that point start producing ISK depending on the amount of clones it would of produced. Which is currently how the system works. That sounds good. I admittedly have little knowledge of how PC/districts work so I'll defer to your judgment. Oh, and thank you for the constructive discussion. I know I'm nothing special in this game and nowhere near good enough to be playing in the current version of PC, but I do believe that PC should be the pinnacle of Dust gameplay and that as things currently stand, there's very little hope of scrubs like me and most new players ever being able to take part in it. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
Crimson Moon V Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 326	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:35:00 - [190] - Quote Wow this no name scrub actually thinks time and isk will help the garbage dust community "get good" The dust community was trash in closed beta and is still trash to this day. Keep telling yourself that you will get good one day. The players in DNS were rich before DNS. We got here by being good at the game. Scrub corps will always be trash no matter how much time and isk you have. Even SP only takes you so far. Know your place scrub.

Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1633	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:37:00 - [191] - Quote The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Man I hate posts like these, filled with meta and tears. Nothing was even said. I bet he copied and pasted this from 3 other threads and pretended it was his original rage/tear post. That was it? I tell DNS to quit crying like a whiny child and my post somehow has rage and tears in it? You're not so good at trolling. You and darrith (oops ) need to do better, this didn't make me laugh at all, just smh in disappointment at both of you. Oh, right let my guess rage and tears in this one too right? Come bra (oops ) give me some giggles. Talk to sapphire or what ever his name is.. that dude had me rolling in local the other night. Quote from him "If I got every chick I fcked pregnant, I would have twice the population of china in babies." That was when he flipped out over me calling his anus virgin turf for me. He went on and on for probably 30 mins.. pretty funny sht to laugh at. Also I would like to point out, I am not trolling, but would very much like some trolling to be done here.. This the war room, WHY SO SERIOUS?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5dP_83O7o .................................................................................................................................................. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 140	Posted - 2014.04.25 20:47:00 - [192] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Oh, and thank you for the constructive discussion. I know I'm nothing special in this game and nowhere near good enough to be playing in the current version of PC, but I do believe that PC should be the pinnacle of Dust gameplay and that as things currently stand, there's very little hope of scrubs like me and most new players ever being able to take part in it. I am done with stepping on new players for showing interest. It was fine back in the day because we were a lot healthier community who'd smash each other for getting out of hand - but now the state of the game in such a state that we will one day be relying on guys like you who've never been a part of PC or any of it's politics to bring light into the darkness we vets created. now to list off the replies to your quotes: 1) If you remember how PC originally was, it took 3 days of battles to flip a single district. What you're proposing is similar to going back to that. And it burnt us out so bad that no one wanted to attack or sustain a true war. Though, honestly, with your idea the difference would be is it's still possible to flip a district in a single day, which, I can get behind as long as it's still possible. Or are you suggesting the 'reserves' number be kept from the attackers knowledge and be used as an emergency back up placed like a cool down for your corp to defend a single district with? I'm... actually really, really liking this idea. It's reinforcing just a single position with numbers only a spy could get info on. It would add levels to espionage, game mechanics, and how wars would operate and the strategy involved on star map. Amazing idea. 2)yes, skirm style is much prefer over domination, especially since domination is a condensed version of skirmish. At least with skirm strategy/tactics have a chance to win vs a strong team. So I support the continued use of Skirm for now. 3) Yea, I agree, there's no way around adding in any new mechanic for the little guys that the big guys can't use to there advantage better, though. So choose between the smaller evils is all we can really, or I should say CCP, do. 4) Coperations, hmm. You make a good point. But mercs do tend to form packs and circles, people they want to fight side by side with and trust to have there back, and corps functions is pretty much exactly that. So it looks more like you're splitting hairs speaking out against mercing. 5) Read dev blogs - all the info is out there. ^_^ Thanks for great posts so far Everything Dies.
The-Beard 185	Posted - 2014.04.25 22:43:00 - [193] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Wait, what? You respond to a, "What should we do" post with a, "Blow me" and then want to pretend you're not raging and crying?????? I don't need to troll you, you're doing it yourself. o.0 "How will we know whose the best if they're only fighting in FW?" - lol really? Being is being in PC a different game mode for you or something? 16 vs 16 full corps on both sides in FW = same thing as PC, but with more maps.... so arguably, a better thing to do, matches are even too, besides maps themselves giving an edge to one side over the other. So you can tell with an even clearer picture which teams the better one. What? A guy can't like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon? Did you miss the part where I said I really don't care if it's DNS doing it or the list of other corps including my own? Come on bra, I thought you were smarter then that, but since you clearly ain't I'll breaking it down for you. I basically gave a sarcastic answer which pretty much ment "wish in one hand, sh*t in the other and see which one fills up faster". Are you trying to tell me that you are so base, that you really thought I wanted DNS to get on their knees and blow me? WOW. And you say I troll myself... the pot just called the kettle BLACK. Now for your comment on PC: Congrats, you just made rocks look smart compared to you. Lets see, 16 v 16 in FW I don't beleive. Granted I haven't Q sync'd FW in awhile so maybe you can get 16 v 16 now, but last I heard it was still 12 v 12 unless you got lucky and got 14 v 14 (very rare that one). But, hey! you're DNS I'm sure you got magic missle powers that will make that happen right? Right. Ok, different game mode? Ya, try hard to sound super duper cool right there. I'm guess you go by xero cool IRL right? Cause you wear your sunglasses at night. Anyway, lets just answer that question. Yes, it is. Why and how? Because there is nothing of value to lose in a FW match. Simple terms just for you since I already know I'll have to go down this road with you: In a PC match, if you lose to much, you lose your district. That means you lose your isk farmland because you failed to be good or you took a district because you're super awesome and now have more isk farmlands. You see now? people don't really give it their full 100% because nothing is on line. FW = Bragging matches. Bragging matches are like you in the forums, pointless, dumb, and at times funny. (see how I did the little "=" in there? I did math just like you! ) (also, none of this was trolling you. Just pointing out the obvious)
The-Beard 185	Posted - 2014.04.25 22:52:00 - [194] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Wow this no name scrub actually thinks time and isk will help the garbage dust community "get good" The dust community was trash in closed beta and is still trash to this day. Keep telling yourself that you will get good one day. The players in DNS were rich before DNS. We got here by being good at the game. Scrub corps will always be trash no matter how much time and isk you have. Even SP only takes you so far. Know your place scrub. And you are? After answering that you can read this. Having read that, I would like to point and laugh at how awesome you clearly must be to call the dust community garbage. Also keep in mind when you die to community player... a piece of scrub garbage just killed an awesome player. Kinda funny when you look at it like that huh?
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3520	Posted - 2014.04.25 23:03:00 - [195] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Wow this no name scrub actually thinks time and isk will help the garbage dust community "get good" The dust community was trash in closed beta and is still trash to this day. Keep telling yourself that you will get good one day. The players in DNS were rich before DNS. We got here by being good at the game. Scrub corps will always be trash no matter how much time and isk you have. Even SP only takes you so far. Know your place scrub. I don't know dude, I do at least 15 push-ups every single day Level 3 Forum Warrior
Crimson Moon V Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 329	Posted - 2014.04.25 23:15:00 - [196] - Quote The-Beard wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Wow this no name scrub actually thinks time and isk will help the garbage dust community "get good" The dust community was trash in closed beta and is still trash to this day. Keep telling yourself that you will get good one day. The players in DNS were rich before DNS. We got here by being good at the game. Scrub corps will always be trash no matter how much time and isk you have. Even SP only takes you so far. Know your place scrub. And you are? I'm the person that went 17-2 vs your corp with a duvolle as you lost your last district to AE. Sorry you don't remember me. It must be hard remembering who wrecked you when you get wrecked all the time.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2232	Posted - 2014.04.25 23:15:00 - [197] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Wow this no name scrub actually thinks time and isk will help the garbage dust community "get good" The dust community was trash in closed beta and is still trash to this day. Keep telling yourself that you will get good one day. The players in DNS were rich before DNS. We got here by being good at the game. Scrub corps will always be trash no matter how much time and isk you have. Even SP only takes you so far. Know your place scrub. This is my kind of post so much truth Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2014.04.25 23:35:00 - [198] - Quote The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Wait, what? You respond to a, "What should we do" post with a, "Blow me" and then want to pretend you're not raging and crying?????? I don't need to troll you, you're doing it yourself. o.0 "How will we know whose the best if they're only fighting in FW?" - lol really? Being is being in PC a different game mode for you or something? 16 vs 16 full corps on both sides in FW = same thing as PC, but with more maps.... so arguably, a better thing to do, matches are even too, besides maps themselves giving an edge to one side over the other. So you can tell with an even clearer picture which teams the better one. What? A guy can't like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon? Did you miss the part where I said I really don't care if it's DNS doing it or the list of other corps including my own? Come on bra, I thought you were smarter then that, but since you clearly ain't I'll breaking it down for you. I basically gave a sarcastic answer which pretty much ment "wish in one hand, sh*t in the other and see which one fills up faster". Are you trying to tell me that you are so base, that you really thought I wanted DNS to get on their knees and blow me? WOW. And you say I troll myself... the pot just called the kettle BLACK. Now for your comment on PC: Congrats, you just made rocks look smart compared to you. Lets see, 16 v 16 in FW I don't beleive. Granted I haven't Q sync'd FW in awhile so maybe you can get 16 v 16 now, but last I heard it was still 12 v 12 unless you got lucky and got 14 v 14 (very rare that one). But, hey! you're DNS I'm sure you got magic missle powers that will make that happen right? Right. Ok, different game mode? Ya, try hard to sound super duper cool right there. I'm guess you go by xero cool IRL right? Cause you wear your sunglasses at night. Anyway, lets just answer that question. Yes, it is. Why and how? Because there is nothing of value to lose in a FW match. Simple terms just for you since I already know I'll have to go down this road with you: In a PC match, if you lose to much, you lose your district. That means you lose your isk farmland because you failed to be good or you took a district because you're super awesome and now have more isk farmlands. You see now? people don't really give it their full 100% because nothing is on line. FW = Bragging matches. Bragging matches are like you in the forums, pointless, dumb, and at times funny. (see how I did the little "=" in there? I did math just like you! ) (also, none of this was trolling you. Just pointing out the obvious) lol wow. You're... amazing. "I do not believe you, and replace your reality with my own" is literally what you're saying. I'm not talking to a brick wall whose only purpose is to relieve the stress my guys give you in Pubs because they can afford protos and you can't. No trolling from me either(lol really? you didn't mean to troll? lol bs), you really come off as a prick beyond anyone I know in NF currently. King Kobrah and you should hook up. But he'll actually try to think, so you may want to bring an iPad so you can use google to keep up.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 222	Posted - 2014.04.25 23:41:00 - [199] - Quote The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Wait, what? You respond to a, "What should we do" post with a, "Blow me" and then want to pretend you're not raging and crying?????? I don't need to troll you, you're doing it yourself. o.0 "How will we know whose the best if they're only fighting in FW?" - lol really? Being is being in PC a different game mode for you or something? 16 vs 16 full corps on both sides in FW = same thing as PC, but with more maps.... so arguably, a better thing to do, matches are even too, besides maps themselves giving an edge to one side over the other. So you can tell with an even clearer picture which teams the better one. What? A guy can't like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon? Did you miss the part where I said I really don't care if it's DNS doing it or the list of other corps including my own? Come on bra, I thought you were smarter then that, but since you clearly ain't I'll breaking it down for you. I basically gave a sarcastic answer which pretty much ment "wish in one hand, sht in the other and see which one fills up faster". Are you trying to tell me that you are so base, that you really thought I wanted DNS to get on their knees and blow me? WOW. And you say I troll myself... the pot just called the kettle BLACK. Now for your comment on PC: Congrats, you just made rocks look smart compared to you. Lets see, 16 v 16 in FW I don't beleive. Granted I haven't Q sync'd FW in awhile so maybe you can get 16 v 16 now, but last I heard it was still 12 v 12 unless you got lucky and got 14 v 14 (very rare that one). But, hey! you're DNS I'm sure you got magic missle powers that will make that happen right? Right. Ok, different game mode? Ya, try hard to sound super duper cool right there. I'm guess you go by xero cool IRL right? Cause you wear your sunglasses at night. Anyway, lets just answer that question. Yes, it is. Why and how? Because there is nothing of value to lose in a FW match. Simple terms just for you since I already know I'll have to go down this road with you: In a PC match, if you lose to much, you lose your district. That means you lose your isk farmland because you failed to be good or you took a district because you're super awesome and now have more isk farmlands. You see now? people don't really give it their full 100% because nothing is on line. FW = Bragging matches. Bragging matches are like you in the forums, pointless, dumb, and at times funny. (see how I did the little "=" in there? I did math just like you! ) (also, none of this was trolling you. Just pointing out the obvious) You know what I find FASCINATING?! People usually aren't doing things they are doing! It's amazing. Audience gasps* For example, when someone says "I don't care" that in itself is a contradiction. People who do not care generally do not feel the need to say so because they don't ACTUALLY give a flying f_ck! I noticed in your post that you are repeatedly (Which, may I add, redundancy only makes YOU look stupid. Constantly repeating yourself only tells me that you don't take what you have to say seriously yourself.) attempting to have a superior/condescending role play with Sota, essentially calling him stupid in comparison to your oh-so-mighty perfect self. Question: Does calling someone else stupid make you any smarter? Does calling someone else ugly make you better looking? No. Not at all. In fact, at that point you're making yourself go negative because the odds are that you're probably not that great looking yourself and, to the top it all off, you're an ugly person on the inside as well. In the words of Mark Twain, 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' SMART people know when to shut the f_ck up and let the other person do the talking. The occupation of a stupid person is to make themselves look stupid. The occupation of a fool is to make themselves look like a fool. One thing I find absolutely adorable is when someone who can't even spell a 5 letter word, let alone form a complete proper sentence, calls another person stupid. Sota may or may not be lacking in brain cells, but the true crime here is YOU! You have a brain and you fail to use it! Right now you are operating at about 40%. When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE SSOTTTAAAAAA!" In conclusion, stop with the bashing and personal attacks. The only problem you are solving is yourself. EAT YOUR BACON, DAMMIT! "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 686	Posted - 2014.04.26 00:20:00 - [200] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I am done with stepping on new players for showing interest. It was fine back in the day because we were a lot healthier community who'd smash each other for getting out of hand - but now the state of the game in such a state that we will one day be relying on guys like you who've never been a part of PC or any of it's politics to bring light into the darkness we vets created. This is worthy of a like all on its own. SoTasLost Property wrote: now to list off the replies to your quotes: 1) If you remember how PC originally was, it took 3 days of battles to flip a single district. What you're proposing is similar to going back to that. And it burnt us out so bad that no one wanted to attack or sustain a true war. Though, honestly, with your idea the difference would be is it's still possible to flip a district in a single day, which, I can get behind as long as it's still possible. Sadly, I didn't really start playing this game until about nine months ago and I've been in a grand total of 1 PC match, so I don't really have much of an idea how PC has (d)evolved over time. But yes, I do believe that flipping districts should be easily done within a day's time. SoTasLost Property wrote: Or are you suggesting the 'reserves' number be kept from the attackers knowledge and be used as an emergency back up placed like a cool down for your corp to defend a single district with? I'm... actually really, really liking this idea. It's reinforcing just a single position with numbers only a spy could get info on. It would add levels to espionage, game mechanics, and how wars would operate and the strategy involved on star map. Amazing idea. I wish I could take the credit, but it's all yours. Such an idea could make for some interesting bluffs: say a corp such as AE had three districts and only 800 clones available (due to them having fallen asleep for a week or something) and they make the decision to leave one district with only the default 150 or whatever...other corps would have no idea which district is the "weak" one without having inside knowledge of the situation. Spies could become a truly valuable commodity! SoTasLost Property wrote: 4) Coperations, hmm. You make a good point. But mercs do tend to form packs and circles, people they want to fight side by side with and trust to have there back, and corps functions is pretty much exactly that. So it looks more like you're splitting hairs speaking out against mercing. I completely understand your sentiments--the game is definitely much better when playing with friends/people you trust, and I understand that people can have friends in numerous corps. I'd just like to see some way of ensuring that corporations are able to fight for and defend what they've earned, rather than have the "safety blanket" of having powerful friends that can win their battles for them. SoTasLost Property wrote: Thanks for great posts so far Everything Dies. And thank you for listening to a nobody such as me. I hope one day to see all of you on the PC battlefields! Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.

The-Beard 186	Posted - 2014.04.26 09:43:00 - [201] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: You know what I find fascinating?! People usually aren't doing things they are doing! It's amazing. dramatic gasp For example, when someone says "I don't care" that in itself is a contradiction. People who do not care generally do not feel the need to say so, because they don't ACTUALLY give a flying f_ck! I noticed in your post that you are repeatedly (Which, may I add, redundancy does not work in your favor. I mean, those shoes do not go with that dress. Constantly repeating yourself only tells me that you don't take what you have to say seriously.) attempting to have a superior/condescending role play with Sota, essentially calling him stupid in comparison to your oh-so-mighty perfect self. Question: Does calling someone else stupid make you any smarter? Does calling someone else ugly make you better looking? No, not at all. In fact, at that point, you're making yourself go negative because the odds are that you're probably not that great looking yourself and, to the top it all off, you're an ugly person on the inside as well. In the words of Mark Twain, 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' SMART people know when to shut up and let the other person do the talking. The occupation of a stupid person is to make themselves look stupid. The occupation of a fool is to make themselves look like a fool. One thing I find absolutely adorable is when someone who can't even spell a 5 letter word, let alone form a complete and proper sentence, calls another person stupid. Sota may or may not be lacking in brain cells, but the true crime here is YOU! You have a brain and you fail to use it! Right now you are operating at about 40% efficiency. When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE SSOTTTAAAAAA!" In conclusion, stop with the bashing and personal attacks. The only problem you are solving is yourself. EAT YOUR BACON, DAMMIT! YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! YOU ARE AN AMERICAN! THIS IS A FREE CUNTRY! Black Ice, a name that bares some truth in it. Well done, you're on the right path. Now, keep going. You have the meat and potatoes, but you're missing the veggies and drink. Finish it Black Ice. I won't ask the question because I really do think you have the answer. (Very well done)
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1640	Posted - 2014.04.26 11:53:00 - [202] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Wait, what? You respond to a, "What should we do" post with a, "Blow me" and then want to pretend you're not raging and crying?????? I don't need to troll you, you're doing it yourself. o.0 "How will we know whose the best if they're only fighting in FW?" - lol really? Being is being in PC a different game mode for you or something? 16 vs 16 full corps on both sides in FW = same thing as PC, but with more maps.... so arguably, a better thing to do, matches are even too, besides maps themselves giving an edge to one side over the other. So you can tell with an even clearer picture which teams the better one. What? A guy can't like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon? Did you miss the part where I said I really don't care if it's DNS doing it or the list of other corps including my own? Come on bra, I thought you were smarter then that, but since you clearly ain't I'll breaking it down for you. I basically gave a sarcastic answer which pretty much ment "wish in one hand, sht in the other and see which one fills up faster". Are you trying to tell me that you are so base, that you really thought I wanted DNS to get on their knees and blow me? WOW. And you say I troll myself... the pot just called the kettle BLACK. Now for your comment on PC: Congrats, you just made rocks look smart compared to you. Lets see, 16 v 16 in FW I don't beleive. Granted I haven't Q sync'd FW in awhile so maybe you can get 16 v 16 now, but last I heard it was still 12 v 12 unless you got lucky and got 14 v 14 (very rare that one). But, hey! you're DNS I'm sure you got magic missle powers that will make that happen right? Right. Ok, different game mode? Ya, try hard to sound super duper cool right there. I'm guess you go by xero cool IRL right? Cause you wear your sunglasses at night. Anyway, lets just answer that question. Yes, it is. Why and how? Because there is nothing of value to lose in a FW match. Simple terms just for you since I already know I'll have to go down this road with you: In a PC match, if you lose to much, you lose your district. That means you lose your isk farmland because you failed to be good or you took a district because you're super awesome and now have more isk farmlands. You see now? people don't really give it their full 100% because nothing is on line. FW = Bragging matches. Bragging matches are like you in the forums, pointless, dumb, and at times funny. (see how I did the little "=" in there? I did math just like you! ) (also, none of this was trolling you. Just pointing out the obvious) You know what I find fascinating?! People usually aren't doing things they are doing! It's amazing. dramatic gasp* For example, when someone says "I don't care" that in itself is a contradiction. People who do not care generally do not feel the need to say so, because they don't ACTUALLY give a flying f_ck! I noticed in your post that you are repeatedly (Which, may I add, redundancy does not work in your favor. I mean, those shoes do not go with that dress. Constantly repeating yourself only tells me that you don't take what you have to say seriously.) attempting to have a superior/condescending role play with Sota, essentially calling him stupid in comparison to your oh-so-mighty perfect self. Question: Does calling someone else stupid make you any smarter? Does calling someone else ugly make you better looking? No, not at all. In fact, at that point, you're making yourself go negative because the odds are that you're probably not that great looking yourself and, to the top it all off, you're an ugly person on the inside as well. In the words of Mark Twain, 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' SMART people know when to shut up and let the other person do the talking. The occupation of a stupid person is to make themselves look stupid. The occupation of a fool is to make themselves look like a fool. One thing I find absolutely adorable is when someone who can't even spell a 5 letter word, let alone form a complete and proper sentence, calls another person stupid. Sota may or may not be lacking in brain cells, but the true crime here is YOU! You have a brain and you fail to use it! Right now you are operating at about 40% efficiency. When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE SSOTTTAAAAAA!" In conclusion, stop with the bashing and personal attacks. The only problem you are solving is yourself. EAT YOUR BACON, DAMMIT! YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! YOU ARE AN AMERICAN! THIS IS A FREE CUNTRY! Teehee, did you leave that "cuntry" part there on purpose? The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 232	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:55:00 - [203] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: B1ack ice wrote: The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Wait, what? You respond to a, "What should we do" post with a, "Blow me" and then want to pretend you're not raging and crying?????? I don't need to troll you, you're doing it yourself. o.0 "How will we know whose the best if they're only fighting in FW?" - lol really? Being is being in PC a different game mode for you or something? 16 vs 16 full corps on both sides in FW = same thing as PC, but with more maps.... so arguably, a better thing to do, matches are even too, besides maps themselves giving an edge to one side over the other. So you can tell with an even clearer picture which teams the better one. What? A guy can't like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon? Did you miss the part where I said I really don't care if it's DNS doing it or the list of other corps including my own? Come on bra, I thought you were smarter then that, but since you clearly ain't I'll breaking it down for you. I basically gave a sarcastic answer which pretty much ment "wish in one hand, sht in the other and see which one fills up faster". Are you trying to tell me that you are so base, that you really thought I wanted DNS to get on their knees and blow me? WOW. And you say I troll myself... the pot just called the kettle BLACK. Now for your comment on PC: Congrats, you just made rocks look smart compared to you. Lets see, 16 v 16 in FW I don't beleive. Granted I haven't Q sync'd FW in awhile so maybe you can get 16 v 16 now, but last I heard it was still 12 v 12 unless you got lucky and got 14 v 14 (very rare that one). But, hey! you're DNS I'm sure you got magic missle powers that will make that happen right? Right. Ok, different game mode? Ya, try hard to sound super duper cool right there. I'm guess you go by xero cool IRL right? Cause you wear your sunglasses at night. Anyway, lets just answer that question. Yes, it is. Why and how? Because there is nothing of value to lose in a FW match. Simple terms just for you since I already know I'll have to go down this road with you: In a PC match, if you lose to much, you lose your district. That means you lose your isk farmland because you failed to be good or you took a district because you're super awesome and now have more isk farmlands. You see now? people don't really give it their full 100% because nothing is on line. FW = Bragging matches. Bragging matches are like you in the forums, pointless, dumb, and at times funny. (see how I did the little "=" in there? I did math just like you! ) (also, none of this was trolling you. Just pointing out the obvious) You know what I find fascinating?! People usually aren't doing things they are doing! It's amazing. dramatic gasp* For example, when someone says "I don't care" that in itself is a contradiction. People who do not care generally do not feel the need to say so, because they don't ACTUALLY give a flying f_ck! I noticed in your post that you are repeatedly (Which, may I add, redundancy does not work in your favor. I mean, those shoes do not go with that dress. Constantly repeating yourself only tells me that you don't take what you have to say seriously.) attempting to have a superior/condescending role play with Sota, essentially calling him stupid in comparison to your oh-so-mighty perfect self. Question: Does calling someone else stupid make you any smarter? Does calling someone else ugly make you better looking? No, not at all. In fact, at that point, you're making yourself go negative because the odds are that you're probably not that great looking yourself and, to the top it all off, you're an ugly person on the inside as well. In the words of Mark Twain, 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' SMART people know when to shut up and let the other person do the talking. The occupation of a stupid person is to make themselves look stupid. The occupation of a fool is to make themselves look like a fool. One thing I find absolutely adorable is when someone who can't even spell a 5 letter word, let alone form a complete and proper sentence, calls another person stupid. Sota may or may not be lacking in brain cells, but the true crime here is YOU! You have a brain and you fail to use it! Right now you are operating at about 40% efficiency. When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE SSOTTTAAAAAA!" In conclusion, stop with the bashing and personal attacks. The only problem you are solving is yourself. EAT YOUR BACON, DAMMIT! YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! YOU ARE AN AMERICAN! THIS IS A FREE CUNTRY! Teehee, did you leave that "cuntry" part there on purpose? Yes, yes I did. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 234	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:25:00 - [204] - Quote The-Beard wrote: B1ack ice wrote: You know what I find fascinating?! People usually aren't doing things they are doing! It's amazing. dramatic gasp For example, when someone says "I don't care" that in itself is a contradiction. People who do not care generally do not feel the need to say so, because they don't ACTUALLY give a flying f_ck! I noticed in your post that you are repeatedly (Which, may I add, redundancy does not work in your favor. I mean, those shoes do not go with that dress. Constantly repeating yourself only tells me that you don't take what you have to say seriously.) attempting to have a superior/condescending role play with Sota, essentially calling him stupid in comparison to your oh-so-mighty perfect self. Question: Does calling someone else stupid make you any smarter? Does calling someone else ugly make you better looking? No, not at all. In fact, at that point, you're making yourself go negative because the odds are that you're probably not that great looking yourself and, to the top it all off, you're an ugly person on the inside as well. In the words of Mark Twain, 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' SMART people know when to shut up and let the other person do the talking. The occupation of a stupid person is to make themselves look stupid. The occupation of a fool is to make themselves look like a fool. One thing I find absolutely adorable is when someone who can't even spell a 5 letter word, let alone form a complete and proper sentence, calls another person stupid. Sota may or may not be lacking in brain cells, but the true crime here is YOU! You have a brain and you fail to use it! Right now you are operating at about 40% efficiency. When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE SSOTTTAAAAAA!" In conclusion, stop with the bashing and personal attacks. The only problem you are solving is yourself. EAT YOUR BACON, DAMMIT! YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! YOU ARE AN AMERICAN! THIS IS A FREE CUNTRY! Black Ice, a name that bares some truth in it. Well done, you're on the right path. Now, keep going. You have the meat and potatoes, but you're missing the veggies and drink. Finish it Black Ice. I won't ask the question because I really do think you have the answer. (Very well done) Thank you! <3 <3 <3 "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
The-Beard 187	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:06:00 - [205] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: You know what I find fascinating?! People usually aren't doing things they are doing! It's amazing. dramatic gasp For example, when someone says "I don't care" that in itself is a contradiction. People who do not care generally do not feel the need to say so, because they don't ACTUALLY give a flying f_ck! Yes and no. you're going too far into pychologly on this one though, but remember what you said here and the one below this. B1ack ice wrote: I noticed in your post that you are repeatedly (Which, may I add, redundancy does not work in your favor. I mean, those shoes do not go with that dress. Constantly repeating yourself only tells me that you don't take what you have to say seriously.) attempting to have a superior/condescending role play with Sota, essentially calling him stupid in comparison to your oh-so-mighty perfect self. Guilty, kinda just like people that use scrub and get good as their go to response. Only now they have it done to them in a different way. B1ack ice wrote: Question: Does calling someone else stupid make you any smarter? Does calling someone else ugly make you better looking? No, not at all. In fact, at that point, you're making yourself go negative because the odds are that you're probably not that great looking yourself and, to the top it all off, you're an ugly person on the inside as well. Question for you: does calling someone else a scrub make you any better? Does telling them to get good make you look awesome? Same answer, No, not at all. The very same point you drive home can be applied here as well, with both lesser and good players sending scrub and get good messages. Making both look pretty ugly on the inside and out.
The-Beard 187	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:07:00 - [206] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: In the words of Mark Twain, 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' SMART people know when to shut up and let the other person do the talking. The occupation of a stupid person is to make themselves look stupid. The occupation of a fool is to make themselves look like a fool. Hmm, interesting quote and line to use. Respond and you admit to being stupid. Keep your mouth shut, take it like btch, and you're smart. Catch 22. I guess I'm either stupid or defiant.. maybe both B1ack ice wrote:* One thing I find absolutely adorable is when someone who can't even spell a 5 letter word, let alone form a complete and proper sentence, calls another person stupid. Sota may or may not be lacking in brain cells, but the true crime here is YOU! You have a brain and you fail to use it! Right now you are operating at about 40% efficiency. Hold the phone, sota is cute because he ain't all that bright, but I'm an ashole because I have a brain and don't use it to your liking? lol. B1ack ice wrote:* When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE SSOTTTAAAAAA!" Here you are being redundant in the very same post you dinged me for repeating myself. lol, I wonder if we all should heed your words in the 2nd quote. B1ack ice wrote: In conclusion, stop with the bashing and personal attacks. The only problem you are solving is yourself. EAT YOUR BACON, DAMMIT! YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! YOU ARE AN AMERICAN! THIS IS A FREE CUNTRY! Ah, so it is perfectly fine for DNS members (more like your friends) to bash and make personal attacks while I cannot? Interesting and yet at the very same time so very, very typical. I look at this whole post and put myself in third persons shoes and yet, I still see this as an angry post with some hypocrisy in it. Why are you angry? because I bash your friends like they bash others? I take it you'll be smart Romeo & Juliet.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:23:00 - [207] - Quote The-Beard wrote: B1ack ice wrote: In the words of Mark Twain, 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' SMART people know when to shut up and let the other person do the talking. The occupation of a stupid person is to make themselves look stupid. The occupation of a fool is to make themselves look like a fool. Hmm, interesting quote and line to use. Respond and you admit to being stupid. Keep your mouth shut, take it like btch, and you're smart. Catch 22. I guess I'm either stupid or defiant.. maybe both B1ack ice wrote:* One thing I find absolutely adorable is when someone who can't even spell a 5 letter word, let alone form a complete and proper sentence, calls another person stupid. Sota may or may not be lacking in brain cells, but the true crime here is YOU! You have a brain and you fail to use it! Right now you are operating at about 40% efficiency. Hold the phone, sota is cute because he ain't all that bright, but I'm an ashole because I have a brain and don't use it to your liking? lol. B1ack ice wrote:* When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE SSOTTTAAAAAA!" Here you are being redundant in the very same post you dinged me for repeating myself. lol, I wonder if we all should heed your words in the 2nd quote. B1ack ice wrote: In conclusion, stop with the bashing and personal attacks. The only problem you are solving is yourself. EAT YOUR BACON, DAMMIT! YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT! YOU ARE AN AMERICAN! THIS IS A FREE CUNTRY! Ah, so it is perfectly fine for DNS members (more like your friends) to bash and make personal attacks while I cannot? Interesting and yet at the very same time so very, very typical. I look at this whole post and put myself in third persons shoes and yet, I still see this as an angry post with some hypocrisy in it. Why are you angry? because I bash your friends like they bash others? I take it you'll be smart Romeo & Juliet. Nice double standard reversal you're trying here. Did it take you the entire day to come up with this post, or did you have to wait for your dad to come type it up for you? Guessing the first post you made on her comment was you, and the second was your dad going SMH and taking the keyboard from you to do it better after reading your lame replies. Lol
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 235	Posted - 2014.04.26 21:40:00 - [208] - Quote The-Beard wrote: B1ack ice wrote: You know what I find fascinating?! People usually aren't doing things they are doing! It's amazing. dramatic gasp For example, when someone says "I don't care" that in itself is a contradiction. People who do not care generally do not feel the need to say so, because they don't ACTUALLY give a flying f_ck! Yes and no. you're going too far into pychologly on this one though, but remember what you said here and the one below this. B1ack ice wrote: I noticed in your post that you are repeatedly (Which, may I add, redundancy does not work in your favor. I mean, those shoes do not go with that dress. Constantly repeating yourself only tells me that you don't take what you have to say seriously.) attempting to have a superior/condescending role play with Sota, essentially calling him stupid in comparison to your oh-so-mighty perfect self. Guilty, kinda just like people that use scrub and get good as their go to response. Only now they have it done to them in a different way. B1ack ice wrote: Question: Does calling someone else stupid make you any smarter? Does calling someone else ugly make you better looking? No, not at all. In fact, at that point, you're making yourself go negative because the odds are that you're probably not that great looking yourself and, to the top it all off, you're an ugly person on the inside as well. Question for you: does calling someone else a scrub make you any better? Does telling them to get good make you look awesome? Same answer, No, not at all. The very same point you drive home can be applied here as well, with both lesser and good players sending scrub and get good messages. Making both look pretty ugly on the inside and out. If you can provide me with a link to, picture of, or any evidence on the forums, or in game, where I call anyone a scrub or tell someone to get good I will give you 50 million ISK. (Note: the "anyone" does not include myself, B1ack ice, as I have referred to myself as a scrub and tell myself to get good on countless occasions. It's true! I do need to get good! There is always room for improvement.) You're talking to a troll. I rarely actually get angry, and I find it amusing when people assume I am mad when I am sitting here without a care in the world grinning like the Cheshire cat because you continuously give me exactly what I want: your response. It's simply a game to me. Why so serious? "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
excillon Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 377	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:38:00 - [209] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? I thought thats what you losers did because you cant get real jobs or even get laid.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 183	Posted - 2014.04.26 23:57:00 - [210] - Quote excillon wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? I thought thats what you losers did because you cant get real jobs or even get laid. Nah, the people who can't find jobs or women are usually the ones online telling people they can't find jobs or women.

Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1645	Posted - 2014.04.27 00:29:00 - [211] - Quote excillon wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? I thought thats what you losers did because you cant get real jobs or even get laid. Oh what a bunch of crap! I've had sex before!! Her name is Hand! Heck, there was this one time, she brought over her twin sisters, Feet, but they got stage fright, started cramping up. I didn't want to push them that far. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 237	Posted - 2014.04.27 02:01:00 - [212] - Quote excillon wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust User wrote: You're a bunch of anime loving dorks, no way in hell I'm joining that channel. Hope you finally got to touch a boob on your vacation. Why are you trying to act superior on a VIDEO GAME FORUM? I thought thats what you losers did because you cant get real jobs or even get laid. Yet here you are, on the forums, acting superior by implying that we don't have jobs or get laid, compared to yourself who obviously has a job and gets laid? You realize you just called yourself a loser, right? "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose." I'm not buying what you're selling.
The-Beard 187	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:12:00 - [213] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Nice double standard reversal you're trying here. Did it take you the entire day to come up with this post, or did you have to wait for your dad to come type it up for you? Guessing the first post you made on her comment was you, and the second was your dad going SMH and taking the keyboard from you to do it better after reading your lame replies. Lol ROFLMAO, that's it? Either I took super long or else mommy or daddy had to help me? lol, sorry sota, I'm not you. Why 2 posts then? Oddly enough, you can only have 5 quotes in a post. Poor sota, so mad, so sad.
The-Beard 187	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:22:00 - [214] - Quote B1ack ice wrote: If you can provide me with a link to, picture of, or any evidence on the forums, or in game, where I call anyone a scrub or tell someone to get good I will give you 50 million ISK. Hmm, you took this personal. To be fair I wasn't talking about you since, well, I never heard of before this. I can see where the personal attacks come from now. It would seem that DNS can dish out the ** talking, but when someone talks back.. the rage and tears come out. B1ack ice wrote:** (Note: the "anyone" does not include myself, B1ack ice, as I have referred to myself as a scrub and tell myself to get good on countless occasions. It's true! I do need to get good! There is always room for improvement.) You're talking to a troll. I rarely actually get angry, and I find it amusing when people assume I am mad when I am sitting here without a care in the world grinning like the Cheshire cat because you continuously give me exactly what I want: your response. It's simply a game to me. Why so serious? Oh dear, didn't you just post something about "I don't care"? lol, and then you quote me with "why so serious"... I'd pat your little head right now if I could, so cute. lol. (edit: couldn't help myself, had to bust out your own quote) B1ack ice wrote: When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE BBBEEAAAARRRDDDD!!!!!" Big smile There's your quote and then I fixed it since "you don't care". Big smile now, BIGG SMILE lol.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4463	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:30:00 - [215] - Quote The-Beard wrote: SoTasLost Property wrote: Nice double standard reversal you're trying here. Did it take you the entire day to come up with this post, or did you have to wait for your dad to come type it up for you? Guessing the first post you made on her comment was you, and the second was your dad going SMH and taking the keyboard from you to do it better after reading your lame replies. Lol ROFLMAO, that's it? Either I took super long or else mommy or daddy had to help me? lol, sorry sota, I'm not you. Why 2 posts then? Oddly enough, you can only have 5 quotes in a post. Poor sota, so mad, so sad. Oh oh, is it my turn? You're bad and your feet smell. Now on to facts: You reply to her once, leave it alone for an entire day, then post about it again in detail. What conclusion do you think I will draw from that? I know, I know, you didn't think I would think about it, but there's your problem, you're not thinking, you're knee jerk reacting because you have no where else to relieve the pain of getting proto stomped all day. So, instead of trying to be like favorite your Idol ER-BuiltMyselfIntoTheForumsSinceIsuckInGame, go play the game and get good enough to talk the **** you keep posting in the war room. Not that you'll listen to any sort of logic, you seem lost in your own world of anti-DNS Lol n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
B1ack ice Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 241	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:44:00 - [216] - Quote The-Beard wrote: B1ack ice wrote: If you can provide me with a link to, picture of, or any evidence on the forums, or in game, where I call anyone a scrub or tell someone to get good I will give you 50 million ISK. Hmm, you took this personal. To be fair I wasn't talking about you since, well, I never heard of before this. I can see where the personal attacks come from now. It would seem that DNS can dish out the ** talking, but when someone talks back.. the rage and tears come out. B1ack ice wrote:** (Note: the "anyone" does not include myself, B1ack ice, as I have referred to myself as a scrub and tell myself to get good on countless occasions. It's true! I do need to get good! There is always room for improvement.) You're talking to a troll. I rarely actually get angry, and I find it amusing when people assume I am mad when I am sitting here without a care in the world grinning like the Cheshire cat because you continuously give me exactly what I want: your response. It's simply a game to me. Why so serious? Oh dear, didn't you just post something about "I don't care"? lol, and then you quote me with "why so serious"... I'd pat your little head right now if I could, so cute. lol. (edit: couldn't help myself, had to bust out your own quote) B1ack ice wrote: When someone says, "I don't care." this is what I hear: "IIIIII CARRRREEEEEEE! II WANT YOUU TOOOO CARREEEE ABOUTTT MEE NOOTTT CARRRINNGGG! PAY ATTENTIONN TOO MEEEE!!!! RESPOND TO MEEEEEEE! I'M OBSESSED WITH YOUR RESPONSSEEEEE!!!! LOVEE MEEE BBBEEAAAARRRDDDD!!!!!" Big smile There's your quote and then I fixed it since "you don't care". Big smile now, BIGG SMILE lol. Dude, where in that post did I once say the words "I don't care"? lol Well, if it makes you feel any better, I apologize for offending you. You are taking it a lot more seriously than you should. "If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose."
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 213	Posted - 2014.04.27 07:34:00 - [217] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps. My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home. Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete. Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Dude the game is full of exploits and glitches. Let them enjoy it since there is no other game they can do this with that people actually care about. Now you going to ask don't you care DJ? Well since the 1st eon war no and after the FEC hell no. Let me explain, school 1st (2 more semesters before mechanical engineering degree), family 2nd, friends 3rd, video gaming comes dead last Open Beta (03/26/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 551	Posted - 2014.04.28 20:47:00 - [218] - Quote Interesting only because most of the parties bumped up against what I call the "Don't tolerate intolerance" paradox. "Don't criticize" is the same paradoxical statement as it violates itself. Sota, where in South Texas are you? Do you go to Anime Cons? Because, that's why.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4558	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:03:00 - [219] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Interesting only because most of the parties bumped up against what I call the "Don't tolerate intolerance" paradox. "Don't criticize" is the same paradoxical statement as it violates itself. Sota, where in South Texas are you? Do you go to Anime Cons? San Antonio, and no, I haven't yet, but I've always wanted too. I moved here some year ago from Laredo and haven't been making many friends - I really am growing a neck beard. Lol n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot


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